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8664817 No.8664817 [Reply] [Original]

Which is the best book to film adaptation?

>> No.8664831

Apocalypse Now, Werckmeister Harmonies, Army of Shadows

/thread

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>>8664817

>> No.8664840

>>8664817
i liked inherent vice

>> No.8664860

>>8664817
I dont watch TV, sorry.

>> No.8664900

>>8664817
Hunger.

>> No.8664914

Scanner darkly

>> No.8664921

Watchmen

Aside from scrapping the news stand subplot, they fuckin nailed it.

>> No.8664971

Best as movies or as adaptations?
Because Twilight nailed the second.

>> No.8665038

>>8664921
It's in the extended version, at least some of it

>> No.8665061

>>8664921
>>8665038
eeeh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaWj2mZsIX0

certainly a better adaption than V that's for sure

>> No.8665093

>>8664840
Same.
Also notable:
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
A Room with a View

>> No.8665096

crash

i've never seen a director capture the tone of an author as well as cronenberg did ballard

>> No.8665129

>>8664921
Watchmen is the worst adaptation I've ever seen in my life. Its worst quality, one that is very easy not to see, is that it has changed (for worse) the appreciation of the original work significantly. Many people are now reading Watchmen with the movie in mind, and most agree that it is a good adaptation because of it. The books have an amazing subtle quality to the way the story is told, it's told not only by a myriad of different points of view, but by different discourses in themselves, going through advertising, interviews, police reports, jokes, books, television, psychological and political discourses. I personally cannot even imagine a movie adaptation of it, but when I've watched the movie I knew it has nothing of what made the books great. Worst of all, it's not that it simply neglected that aspect and embraced the superficial superhero narrative, but it has glimpses and nods, either to details of the Watchmen books, or to references of life, except they are not arranged, we are not invited to look at them critically, or anything of that kind. What you have is Bob Dylan to a reference to The Last Supper with heroes in slow motion, and we are supposed to be amazed, not with the film, but with ourselves to catch those references devoid of thought, emotion, sense of history or narrative. Watchmen movie is certainly one of the worst adaptations I've ever seen. I wish I could make people unwatch it to read the books, because the movie is certainly mediating that experience and making people less involved in the subtle qualities that make the books stand out.

>> No.8665137

American Psycho

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>>8664860
then dont respond faggot

>> No.8665227

>>8664817

It probably wasn't A Clockwork Orange, the final chapter was omitted from the U.S. book and movie which the author has stated was a significant part of the main characters development.

>> No.8665328

>>8665129
>Watchmen is the worst adaptation I've ever seen in my life.
stopped reading there as it made your opinion worthless. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of the watchmen adaption at all, but saying it is literally the worst you have ever seen when the same god damn AUTHOR had worse adaptations (V for Vendetta, League of Extraordinary Gentleman, The killing Joke) is simply laughable.

You are saying here that Jack Blacks "Gullivers Travels" was better than Watchmen, That all the fucking Dr.Seuss adaptations were better, that Lemony Snicket's was better, that Burtons Alice in Wonderland was better, that The lightning Thief was better, that Jumper was better, that the golden fucking compass was better. that queen of the damned was better
so that is clearly fucking bullshit because there are some TERRIBLE fucking films in that list. I mean you can barely even sit trough the fucking cat in the hat. That or Watchmen was literally the only adaptation you've ever seen

>> No.8665336

The >>8664817
The Outsiders

>> No.8665368

Quatre nuits d'un rêveur
Faust: Eine deutsche Volkssage
さらば箱舟
Něco z Alenky
Journal d'un curé de campagne

>> No.8665370

>>8665227
Have you read it? It was such a jarring change and to be honest did not add anything to the story other than some moral about growing up.

>> No.8665438

>>8665328
I've read V and I thought the movie was swell. Is it just bad because le anonymous guy fawks man? Can you convinced me that I shouldn't like it?

>> No.8665466

The Godfather surely?

The film kicks the arse of the book.

>> No.8665484
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8665484

Anyone liked the 1984 film? I thought it was very good.

>> No.8665488

>>8665484
Dat big bush.
8/10

>> No.8665495

Fight Club
Jaws
The Tin Drum

Sheeeit, nigga, Solaris, Berlin Alexanderplatz, Mouchette, The Thin Red Line and Eyes Wide Shut.

>> No.8665516

>>8665129
Do tell how you'd pull off translating the nuances to film.

I didn't say it was the best film that happened to be an adaptation, mind you, and even pointed out a rather heavy omission. In all honesty, it's simply the first movie adaptation that comes to mind when someone asks me about the topic. Short of turning the film into a cumbersome, straight-to-Sundance-channel, 4 hour clusterfuck, what audiences got was, in my opinion, pretty damn solid.

The news stand bits could have been done, but for whatever reason, they weren't. If you can come up with a truly feasible way to communicate those nuances you're reeeeing over, by all means, let's hear it.

>> No.8665555

>>8665370
It was alright. Honestly either with or without seemed alright

>> No.8665643

>>8665555
Nice quads

As for the OP, Harry Potter. The first three movies were amazing in their attention to detail, and brought to life the wonders found in the books. The rest is shit.

>> No.8665700

>>8665643
First movie pointlessly 86'd the potion puzzle.

>> No.8665925
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This was the logical conclusion to Cinema. It could have very well just ended here and practically nothing of value would have been lost.

>> No.8666013

War and Peace (1966)

>> No.8666089

Trainspotting

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>>8664817
No country for old men

>> No.8666385

>>8665336
Definitely solid

>> No.8666410

Clockwork Orange was pretty great, but took a lot of creative liberties was hated by the author, as is often the case with Stanley Kubrick's films.

>>8664921
>Watchmen

Literally V for Vendetta tier in terms of adaptation, I don't know why its so hard to skillfully portray Alan Moore's works.

>> No.8666455

>>8665555
I always thought like that. The book, in one side, gives me a sense of completeness, as a full-circle ending. But the movie, on the other side, feels more logical in the way the character has developed

>> No.8666464 [SPOILER] 
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how has no one said [barry lyndon]

>> No.8666466

>>8664817
2001 A Space Odyssey. They're perfect for each other.

>> No.8666502

>>8666381
If anyone disagrees with this fuckin fight me this movie is 5 times better than the book

>> No.8666510

>>8666464
I just picked this movie up, gonna watch it here pretty soon

>> No.8666536

>>8664817
Definitely not Clockwork Orange. As much as I love Kubrick, this was really not one of his good ones

>> No.8666586

The Exorcist. Though i haven't read it

>> No.8666758

>>8665093
OFotCN is the only film for which I have ever recommended viewing prior to reading. the realisation that he talks isn't a surprise otherwise

>> No.8667028

>>8665129
100 percent agree with this, have an upboat. Watchmen is an aped up literal translation of the comic which only superfically translates the comic but has none of the substance. It also directed it in a way that the characters ended up being the exact characters they were commenting on, e.g. Rorshcach being a generic badass anti-hero, and Ozy was a mustache twirling villain with a nazi accent. Add in the slow mo and inappropiate soundtrack and it truly is awful. What's sad is it's not even the worst Moore adaptation.

Snyder is a hack and I really would've liked to see someone like kubrick who would direct it with a vision but disregard the source material. It'd be interesting, I don't need some halfassed slave to the source material, even as a 1:1 adaptation it fucking sucks.

Also agreed with whoever said Apocalypse Now being one of the best.

>> No.8667040

>>8665227
>>8665370
>>8666536

Great film, decent book. I would not consider it a good adaptation because I really don't feel like Kubrick conveyed the brutality and nastiness in aCWO, the film was more like a really enjoyable aestheticization of the CWO world

I think anybody who didn't like it may be expecting or looking for the wrong kind of thing from the film. It's not an exceedingly clever film, at least for Kubrick, but it is just really enjoyable as a beautiful, cool, and fun world to get sucked into

>> No.8667230

>>8665438
Well for one Alan Moore doesn't like it and had zero to do with it. It is a good movie in itself but it largely feels like it misses the point by being modernized
To be honest they explain the differences pretty well in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLIRsP5s4NU

>> No.8667427

>>8664817
>American Psycho

There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some sort of abstraction. Though you can sense even our lifestyles are comparable, there is no real me. I simply am not there

>> No.8667437

>>8665925
came here to post this

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All 3 of the original/main LOTR movies are among the few instances I have found of the movie adaptations being better than the books.

Very little of what Jackson cut was I unhappy to see go. Moreover, his tweaks/changes were definitely for the better.

The Hobbit movies were nothing more than cinema prostitution on Jackson's part, however. Everything that he got just right in the main series fell short of the mark with Hobbit series.

>> No.8667503

>>8664817

1984 was excellent

>> No.8667519

Godfather

>> No.8667590
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>>8664817
Starship Troopers

>> No.8667726

The Trial
Solaris

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>>8665484

You'll never have forbidden kinky fuckery with Suzanna Hamilton.


I've jerked of to this scene so many times the tape got all fucked.

>> No.8667772

>>8667752
>>8667752

What's going on here?

>> No.8667835

>>8664817
>CTR+f
>No Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
/lit/ I am disappoint

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>>8667772

All of my childhood sexual development.

>> No.8667905

The Godfather is the obvious answer

From mediocre book to film masterpiece

>> No.8667915

>>8664817

2001, Solaris

Incidentally also the third and second best sci fi movies ever made, second only to Metropolis

>> No.8667924

>>8667726
I found Tarkovsky's Solaris rather disappointing desu. But I came here to post Stalker.

>> No.8667936

THE SHININ

>> No.8667964

Is Kubrick really so talentless that he can't make a movie with an original story?

And don't give me that "2001 was written at the same time as the movie!!!1!" bullshit. We all know that Clarke is the one that had the idea and gave it to Kubrick.

>> No.8668957

>Apocalypse Now
>Barry Lyndon
>Blade Runner

>> No.8669007

>>8667230
yeah V was different and modernized but honestly i don't think a faithful recreation would have made as good of a movie.

>>8664817
the sterile cuckoo was a great adaptation. also changed a lot from the book but most of the changes were to tighten up the story, length-wise, i felt.

>> No.8669532

>>8664831
>Werckmeister Harmonies
this

>> No.8669644

>>8664817
For a good adaptation of a bad book: The Godfather.

For a good adaptation of a good book: Double Indemnity.

>> No.8669957

>>8667446
yer a dumb

>> No.8669968

>>8666466

but they were developed at the same time

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>> No.8670019

Interview with the Vampire. Only some minimal changes so the story can go to the screen.

But gonna second the anon asking if you mean just adaptation, just good movie, or both. How to train your dragon is an amazing movie but has barely anything to do with the book.

>> No.8670038

>>8665484
Yea the director did a great job on this film, it had almost all the scenes from the book and did a great job at portraying oceania. My biggest complaint though was that the movie was missing the core messages that the book had, it was touched on a little but largely under represented.

>> No.8670274

>>8665370
I'd say it does brings something.

You see, there was a moment in the novel in which he asks himself, (or i don't remember who questioned it)
"Who is most good, my brothers, the one who wants to do bad, but does good because of obligation, or the one who doesn't does good?"

Also, in a moment, he says:

"I can tell you, oh my brothers, that whoever wants to be bad, is bad."

Something like that. So, in the end, we see an Alex not being forced to be good, or faking it. Nor having to act that way. When he sees his former friend with that lady, he thinks about it, and he'd actually like being.. "good" so... yeah, I'd say the end was rather... notable.

>> No.8670281

>>8665495
>Solaris
How about no?

>> No.8670340

as a hunter s thompson fan i think the movie adding the wave speech to the end helped a lot,

>> No.8670357

There were several good ones. But my absolute favorite was a The Godfather. (And if you're looking for something more lighthearted and funny, the princess bride is a good one)

>> No.8670385

Films off the top of my head that were better than the original novel

>The Godfather
>The Shining
>Thank You for Smoking
(Yeah it was a novel)

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>>8664817
>Which is the best book to film adaptation?
>>8664831
>>8664835
>>8664840

This film adaptation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A00Tnw7EnFM

of chapter 2 of this book:

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch02.html

>> No.8670543

Up in the Air was a much better film than book.

>> No.8670557

>>8670543

I saw the movie first, and read the book expecting it would be in a similar vein to serio-comic novels like Election or The Descendants. I was disappointed. The movie essentially took the basic setup and Alexander Payne'd it.

>> No.8670635

>>8666381
>>8666502

I fucking agree with you, also got your back if anyone wants to fite.

>> No.8670895

>>8670281
>my knowledge of cinema doesn't extend back into the 20th century

>> No.8670912

blade runner

picnic at hanging rock

lord of the rings

lonesome dove

old man and the sea (the strangely animated version)

the man who planted trees

wise blood

the trial

apocalypse now

honestly didn't like how clockwork orange ended in the film (based on the American version with the original last chapter cut out). I need that last chapter for closure. alex grows the fuck up instead of jerking off to absurdist abrupt bait and switch ending of him getting "cured" but he's a likely asshole again.

>>8665227
so yeah...this.

>> No.8670935

Get Shorty
Kill Your Friends

>> No.8670958

>>8667835
Yes. FaLiLV is vastly underrated because people were expecting a comedy ("drugs so it must be funny") but is actually a very dark book, and Gilliam captured what HST was getting at very well.

>> No.8671016

Dr. Strangelove

>> No.8671052

inb4 comic but sin city

>> No.8671084
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2005 tv-miniseries adaptation of Master & Margarita

The soundtrack alone is incredible
https://youtu.be/o5Tm8zV8FlA