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[Anonymous No.8642196]

>The choice between the blue or the red pill is not really a choice between illusion and reality. Of course The Matrix is a machine for fictions, but these are fictions which already structure our reality. If you take away from our reality the symbolic fictions that regulate it, you lose reality itself. (…) I want a third pill. So what is the third pill? Definitely not some kind of transcendental pill which enables a fake fast food religious experience, but a pill which would enable me to perceive not the reality behind the illusion, but reality in illusion itself. (…) Our fundamental delusion today is not believing in what is only a fiction, to take fictions too seriously – on the contrary, it is not taking fictions seriously enough.

What does he mean by this? How do you perceive "reality in illusion itself"?

[Anonymous No.8642202]

T H E O R Y

[Anonymous No.8642228]

>>8642196
To see the truth behind the fiction, why we do it and what does the fiction we make up mean. In other words, theories that explain the meaning of our fantasy

[Anonymous No.8642233]

There are people that dismiss everything as "illusions" or "social constructs" and think only atoms are real. But of course things like language, traffic rules, laws are social constructs that are very real. And so-called illusions like "meaning", "identity", "morality", categorization and even "perception of time and space" are more real than some particle that nobody cares about like B mesons.

[Anonymous No.8642239]

ideology is a reflection of our material world, culture and products of the culture industry are a reflection of certain trends and developments in material and economical developments. to see the "truth" in fiction is to expose the ideology within it, and through that, the horrible world that hides beneath the ideology

[Anonymous No.8642272]

What is this taken from?

[Anonymous No.8642289]

>>8642272
I think from one of his films

[Anonymous No.8642304]

>>8642272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-0VMnFmnL0

[Anonymous No.8642307]

>>8642196
isn't that pill just having Orpheus tell Neo what the Matrix is and then going on without taking red or blue?

[Anonymous No.8642321]

It means to perceive how an illusion is being formed by reality (and how illusions influence reality)

[Anonymous No.8642412]

[Anonymous No.8642419]

>>8642196
>it's all perspective niggah

[Anonymous No.8642423]

>>8642412

[Anonymous No.8642458]

>>8642196
Im means that we should acknowledge that our desire and our dreams as well as our common social imagination is structured by fictions. Right now we are pretending, that everything is as it is and has to be done like it is being done because thats just the nature of reality. However human reality and the way we deal with it is totally controlled by fictions or virtualities like language, realigion or even narratives like science or forms of government. we pretend like all of this can be rationally deduced and deny that in the end we made it all up. to take fictions seriously means to reflect those fictions and become aware of their genesis and implications and ultimately to transform them to form a more ceherent, just and meaningful future

[Anonymous No.8642489]

you ever notice how the further you deconstruct these kind of things, the less it makes sense?
as opposed to deconstructing a physical thing, it makes more sense?

just a neat little thing i reckon

[Anonymous No.8642497]

He's talking about the concept of Hyperreality, which Baudrillard coined and analysed. Simply, it's the idea that reality and non-reality are now indistinguishable.

Read 'Simulacra and Simulation'; Zizek is pretty much just building on those ideas anyway. Also read Debord and Eco, etc.

[Anonymous No.8642499]

>>8642489
That's because an idea being deconstructed runs your personal life, so it being fleshed out before your eyes might confuse most people who have nothing else to hold on to.

[Anonymous No.8642502]

>>8642499
the idea*

[Anonymous No.8642529]

>>8642499
That image is literally me.