ITT: Lyricists who deserved it more (dead or alive)

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Anonymous Thu Oct 13 07:32:22 2016 No.8613619 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: Lyricists who deserved it more (dead or alive)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 07:33:36 2016 No.8613625 >>8613619 his death made the numbers on youtube vids of his songs jump than they started getting DMCAs. Gonna happend to Nobel Prize winner now too.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 07:35:38 2016 No.8613636 File: 109 KB, 1200x1200, 1445564222907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kinda funny how he was influenced by Dylan early on, but later started to despise him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 07:48:08 2016 No.8613703 >>8613636 What? Jealousy?

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 07:51:23 2016 No.8613715

>>8613703
I don't know, he was kind of bitter fuck around the time The Beatles broke up to mid 70s. Then he mellowed out.

Here's a nice article too:
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/09/bob-dylan-and-john-lennons-weird-one-sided-relationship/262680/

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 07:56:01 2016 No.8613738 File: 312 KB, 1189x1200, Leonard Cohen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If any lyricist deserved it, it would be him

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 07:57:00 2016 No.8613743 >>8613738 didn't he like win a shitload of razzies tho?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 07:57:36 2016 No.8613747 >>8613738 >Leonard Cohen http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/17/leonard-cohen-makes-it-darker

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:01:19 2016 No.8613763 >>8613738 Cohen is a more refined Dylan, the two are very different stylistically. For me personally, Dylan is more enthralling in his delivery and surreal lyricism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:02:25 2016 No.8613770 >>8613619 Honestly of all Prince's strengths, lyricism was not up there. His real talent lied in his abilities as a producer and an arranger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:04:05 2016 No.8613775 File: 31 KB, 600x400, JohnLennon-BobDylan02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613715 >dat video of them in the back of the cab where it's implied that they want to nail Mama Cass

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:04:25 2016 No.8613776 >>8613763 You type like a fag and your opinions are retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:05:30 2016 No.8613785 >>8613717 Now I think about it, he was a pretty great lyricist. Guess more people focus on his vocals and trumpeting

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:06:23 2016 No.8613788 Jeff Magnum

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:06:33 2016 No.8613789 >>8613770 Yeah, MJ was the better lyricist

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:06:36 2016 No.8613791 File: 185 KB, 672x403, ian-anderson-2011-edit-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613619

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:12:47 2016 No.8613813 File: 48 KB, 487x750, Morrissey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Imagine the uproar if he won it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:17:51 2016 No.8613836 File: 10 KB, 300x316, qYWVX9D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:18:46 2016 No.8613838 File: 14 KB, 480x360, Lou Reed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613836 He's pointing at us... Thanks Lou

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:22:33 2016 No.8613857 >>8613738 He was an actual poet too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:23:02 2016 No.8613861 File: 973 KB, 1920x1080, randy_newman_bridge_road_cars_city_5220_1920x1080-1370201962.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613619 No contest. But yeah, the Nobel is a joke. Then again, they gave Obongo a Peace Prize...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:24:53 2016 No.8613868 File: 37 KB, 500x322, JeffMangum-500x322.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >MFW MANGOD GETS ONE FOR DA HOLLAND

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:26:37 2016 No.8613878 File: 566 KB, 2279x3116, Pete_Townshend_in_Hamburg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Come on the guy wrote Quadrophenia all on his own.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:28:07 2016 No.8613887 >>8613870 This. Holy Jesus this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:28:08 2016 No.8613888 >>8613870 Revolution will be televised.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:40:48 2016 No.8613955 Guthrie. I mean they would never make such a decision back when he was alive, but from what I've read of the committee's reasons for naming Dylan he would have been more deserving.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:42:42 2016 No.8613963 >>8613870 I thought I couldn't imagine a more middlebrow choice than Dylan, but you really nailed it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:43:24 2016 No.8613965 Gary Glitter

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:44:31 2016 No.8613971 >>8613965 ROCK N ROOOOOOOLL HEY! ROCK N ROLL

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:46:09 2016 No.8613979 >>8613955 >>8613861 >>8613738 >>8613955 Actual answers >>8613619 >>8613636 >>8613717 >>8613791 >>8613813 >>8613836 >>8613843 >>8613849 >>8613854 >>8613868 >>8613878 Awful choices, no kidding.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:46:42 2016 No.8613984 >>8613971 Such profound lyrics, brings tears to my eyes every time. Also probably brings tears to the kids eyes he molested.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:53:14 2016 No.8614010

>>8613979
I said Newman, but to be honest, Townsend is p good too. At least way more deserving than Dylan.

And his mini opera (A Quick One While He's Away) is like a cuck hymn (though musically superb), so the swede cucks could've given it to him for that.

Seriously though, if anyone had to have it, it should've been Newman. Just Guilty and Feels Like Home are better than anything written by Dylan or anyone else ITT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:57:01 2016 No.8614019 >>8613636 His solo career is being the poor Man's Dylan and Reed all rolled into one, so no.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:57:28 2016 No.8614023 >>8613979 whoao, thanks for your important contribute in this discussion

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:57:33 2016 No.8614025 File: 38 KB, 385x516, 4Real.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was he a technically good lyricist or did it just work well at conveying his ideas?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:59:26 2016 No.8614034 >>8614025 What ideas? Bob Dylan is a tier one sood, my cousin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 09:01:57 2016 No.8614042 >>8614025 He was good for the genre, but not really great. Many of his songs are filled with awkward lines and tend to work more because of the shocking subject matter than talented lyricism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 09:02:27 2016 No.8614050 File: 58 KB, 250x342, lil cummer.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lil cummer

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 09:02:44 2016 No.8614053 >>8614019 I do agree with you, even though I like some of his solo work. He and McCartney needed each other to balance things out into better works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 09:11:49 2016 No.8614088 >>8613738 Cohen's lyrics aren't as complex, but he actually wrote and published poetry regularly- unlike Dylan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 09:26:41 2016 No.8614166 File: 80 KB, 1299x855, Fabrizio-De-Andrè-02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fabrizio De Andrè

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:22:23 2016 No.8614433 File: 85 KB, 640x427, me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:24:13 2016 No.8614447 File: 8 KB, 238x211, 20.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613979 >it's an anon quotes everyone in the thread because he can't come up with an interesting reply by himself episode

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:24:29 2016 No.8614448 >>8613738 DUDE SEX LMAO

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:31:33 2016 No.8614488
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Townes Van Zandt, the song writer every songwriter calls the best.

Hank Williams obviously could have won. Willie Nelson is more profolic than Dylan, writing almost 3000 songs in his life.

Merle Haggard and David Allen Coe are two others i think could honestly be comparable to Dylan in both quality and quantity.

The best lyrcists are found in country music. But this will never be recognized in academia because its not associated with the left, which is a shame.

Also Kris Kristofferson.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:39:36 2016 No.8614514 >>8614433 OBLIGATORY NIGGERS

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:41:16 2016 No.8614520 >>8614514 MURDER ALL BUSH MONKEYS

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:42:07 2016 No.8614524 File: 42 KB, 512x512, dEy9XM4--1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't know if he's better than Dylan (imo he's) but I love him so fuckin much and he diserved some recognition.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:44:10 2016 No.8614530 my mixtape desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:46:20 2016 No.8614539 >>8614488 >Townes Van Zandt Yes. >Also Kris Kristofferson. My nigga.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:50:57 2016 No.8614558 >>8614166 This. Too bad he's dead though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:29:00 2016 No.8614766 >>8614488 >it's a Townes runs out of heroin so he injects vodka instead episode ;_;

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:30:03 2016 No.8614771 >>8614524 ...David Gilmour?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:32:59 2016 No.8614791 File: 7 KB, 261x193, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Absolutely and unironically Vedder.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:34:39 2016 No.8614804 >>8614791 (Me) except I do think Dylan deserved it more. But Eddy should get it as well.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:43:00 2016 No.8614850 >>8614488 >profolic

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:45:28 2016 No.8614864 File: 1.14 MB, 879x703, Screen Shot 2016-10-13 at 11.31.58 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Joanna :(

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:48:02 2016 No.8614880 >>8614821 His face is totally hilarious. It's like a retarded cartoon dog.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:50:43 2016 No.8614899
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>>8614488
>David Allen Coe
I agree with most everything else you said (Townes is my favorite artist, regardless of the medium) but Coe has very fleeting moments of brilliance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:51:36 2016 No.8614902 >>8614821 is this a picture of Nicholas Cage's face photoshopped onto Mark McGrath's head?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:52:08 2016 No.8614909 File: 59 KB, 480x360, autechre_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The next step in literature is the ability to tell stories without using words.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:53:55 2016 No.8614921 >Obvious choice: Leonard Cohen >Non-obvious choice: Elvis Costello >Correct choice: Townes Van Zandt

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 11:54:27 2016 No.8614926 >>8614524 definitely a contender the problem is barely anyone knew/knows about him. Drake is very under appreciated. >>8614864 >Ys >Have one on me only two god tier albums anon, dylan has at least 5

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:17:58 2016 No.8615502 >>8614909 kill urself bud

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:19:47 2016 No.8615512 >>8615502 That's very rude of yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:45:32 2016 No.8615653 Has anybody mentioned Jackson C. Frank? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dka6R0rx6k I also like Paul Simon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GTmN7Fhv6o

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Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:58:13 2016 No.8615733

>>8613619
Prince is amazingly underrated as a lyricist, sure he always wrote about one subject, sex, but he was so poetic and full of spirit about it, there was nothing disgusting even about his most disgusting songs. The pseudo on here will hate on my boy Prince but (figuratively) jack off to De Sade or Bataille.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:59:19 2016 No.8615738 >>8615733 *dirty songs

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:59:48 2016 No.8615741 >>8613979 >he thinks nick cave is an awful choice fucking pleeb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdymE6XFyw0

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:49:37 2016 No.8615996 >ctrl+f "Daniel Johnston" >0 results

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:52:13 2016 No.8616003 File: 39 KB, 500x500, og.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Say what you want about his subject matter, he is an incredible poet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:53:40 2016 No.8616008 File: 44 KB, 474x344, IMG_1182.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >no mentions of the objectively best lyricist of the 90s Plebs

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:54:33 2016 No.8616010 >>8614524 This. 100x this. He didn't live long enough to get it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:55:10 2016 No.8616015 >>8616008 wah wah i dont wanna get old wah wah my cousin wont let me fuck her

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:56:04 2016 No.8616021 File: 479 KB, 513x756, Le dubstep dark souls man.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] beep boop

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:56:27 2016 No.8616022
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>>8613738
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

Cohen deserves it way more than Dylan.
Also because Cohen wrote the theme song to /r9k/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYkJuAb0mMk

I asked my father,
I said, "father change my name."
The one I'm using now it's covered up
With fear and filth and cowardice and shame.
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me,
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me.
He said, "i locked you in this body,
I meant it as a kind of trial.
You can use it for a weapon,
Or to make some woman smile."
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me,
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me.
"then let me start again, " i cried,
"please let me start again,
I want a face that's fair this time,
I want a spirit that is calm."
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me,
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me.
"i never never turned aside, " he said,
"i never walked away.
It was you who built the temple,
It was you who covered up my face."
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me,
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me.
And may the spirit of this song,
May it rise up pure and free.
May it be a shield for you,
A shield against the enemy.
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me,
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me.
Yes and lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover, lover come back to me,

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:57:12 2016 No.8616025
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My little girl was born on a ray of sound
My little girl was born on a ray of sound

Sleeps on water, walks on ice (ice)
Sleeps on water, walks on ice
Got no father, immortal wife
I'd exchange my soul for her
There's no antidote for her
I'd exchange my life for her
There's no antidote for her

My little girl was born on a ray of sound
My little girl was born on a ray of sound

Like a dancing flame upon a bed of nails
She's one thing that you cannot buy
With zero reasons for living
With zero reasons for living

My little girl was born on a ray of sound
My little girl was born on a ray of sound

Our only defence is to gather as an army
I hold you like a gun
Our only defence is to gather as an army
I hold you like a gun

My little girl was born on a ray of sound
My little girl was born on a ray of sound

Western values mean nothing to her, nothing to her
Western values mean nothing to her

She's the girl of my dreams
She's the girl of my dreams
She is beyond good and evil
She is beyond good and evil
She is beyond good and evil (she is beyond)
She is beyond

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:59:33 2016 No.8616032 >>8616008 This, Rollercoaster alone is enough to solidify him as an incredible talent. >>8616015 We're talking about the 90s Mark Kozelek you idiot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 16:21:37 2016 No.8616124 >>8613849 I did it all for them cookies yes them cookies yes so I could eat them cookies and stick them in your ass stick em in your ass

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 16:24:47 2016 No.8616140 >>8613770 He was up there. Lyricists are pretty relative and a lot of Joni in him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 16:26:26 2016 No.8616147 >>8616025 That bass line makes me moist

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 16:29:56 2016 No.8616168 >>8614926 Dylan doesn't have a single album that's good. They're so intermingled with shit they never make a respectable hole.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 16:30:39 2016 No.8616171 >>8616168 lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 16:32:15 2016 No.8616179 >>8616171 I don't care lad. You've probably heard fifty albums your whole life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 17:43:29 2016 No.8616459 >>8613619 I like Prince but his lyrics are cringeworthy. The only ones that touch Dylan are Springsteen, Paul Simon and Leonard Cohen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 17:46:30 2016 No.8616470 EMINEM

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 17:50:40 2016 No.8616488 >>8613619 Brian Mcmahan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 17:59:03 2016 No.8616526 >>8616488 >STEVE THESE HEADPHONES ARE FUCKED UP God-tier lyrics

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:06:44 2016 No.8616556 >>8615714 This. Virginia Woolf deserved a Nobel prize for sure

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:10:24 2016 No.8616572

>>8616526
Please, listen to me.
Don't let go.
Don't let this desperate moonlight leave me your empty pillow.
Promise me the sun will rise again.

I, too, am I tired now.
Embracing thoughts of tonight's dreamless sleep.
My head is empty.
My toes are warm.
I am safe from home.

'Let me in' the voice cried softly, from outside the wooden door.
Scattered remnants of the ship could be seen in the distance; blood stained the icy wall of the shore.

I want the police to be notified.
I've grown taller now.
I'll make it up to you, I swear I'll make it up to you.
I miss you.

Top kek mate, he's written some of the best lyrics we've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:10:42 2016 No.8616574 David Byrne

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:10:48 2016 No.8616575 File: 362 KB, 1024x768, tomwaits.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613738 >>8613854 Agreed, also pic related >>8616003 >LIFE AIN SHIT BUT A FAT VAGINA >GET OFF AND WASH YO AAAASS NIGGUH rlly makes u think

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:26:17 2016 No.8616629 >>8614524 he is really good

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:27:50 2016 No.8616642 File: 78 KB, 500x559, me__mc_ride__stefan_burnett__by_mcrideniggerdicks-d7v2fur.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] unironically this

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:36:14 2016 No.8616667 >>8616642 I actually agree, all the meming and swearing aside, some of his lyrics are so nuanced and powerful

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:40:42 2016 No.8616683 >>8616574 >IM A GOVERNMENT MAN Literally moved me to tears

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:52:10 2016 No.8616721

>>8616642
Memes aside, probably. Death Grips have produces some of the best avant-garde poetry this century.

>>8616574
>>8616683
I don't really know if Byrne deserves a noble, but I do believe that he is an amazing lyricist. His perspective on everyday things is incredibly interesting, and "This Must be the Place" is probably the most honest love song of all time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:53:18 2016 No.8616726 >>8613636 Fucking horrendous choice good god

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:53:28 2016 No.8616728 File: 58 KB, 300x300, John Darniellejpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613619

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:54:26 2016 No.8616736 >>8613636 I love Lennon's music and The Beatles (Even tho everyone seems to hate them here) but let's be honest here, Lennon's lyrics are average at best

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:06:58 2016 No.8616772 >>8614488 Nigger of those you mentioned only Townes is comparable to Bob Dylan. >>8614524 Based

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:08:19 2016 No.8616776 >>8616459 Leonard Cohen definitely, Paul Simon, maybe occasionally but Springsteen lel no

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:13:27 2016 No.8616800 Phil elverum

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:18:17 2016 No.8616818 >>8616776 Springsteen is better than all of them

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:20:32 2016 No.8616828 >>8616772 The first Hank and Kris are easily in the ballpark of best songwriters ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:22:07 2016 No.8616838 >>8616728 the john green of hipster music

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:23:58 2016 No.8616847 File: 960 KB, 940x545, rivers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Not the Brian Wilson of the 90's

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:25:08 2016 No.8616850 >>8616838 JD is eligble to be a poet laureate. That automatically puts him in a tier above that overrated boomer kike Dylan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:28:36 2016 No.8616860 >>8616847 b8

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:34:21 2016 No.8616879

>>8616003
>he is an incredible poet
Why is it that the morons who are most ignorant of poetry are also the exact same loudmouthed morons who feel most confident in calling rappers poets?

If I showed you a poem (as in a good poem that took intelligence and skill to write, not a top 40 pop song), could you tell me what meter it was written in? Could you identify the difference between the stressed and unstressed syllables? Its approximate age, the genre conventions it subscribes to or parodies?

Something tells me that you'd fail spectacularly

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:37:26 2016 No.8616890 >>8616879 you've never listened to Sing About Me, have you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:49:25 2016 No.8616941 File: 46 KB, 630x420, Neil-Young.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Maybe Neil Young https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An2a1_Do_fc

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:56:30 2016 No.8616976
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>>8613619
>Hey, Joe, who did you blow?
>Moe pushed the button boy
>And you went to the show
>Better suck a little harder or the shekels won't flow
>And I don't mean your thumb
>So on your knees you bum
>Just tell yourself it's yum
>And suck it 'till you're numb

Zappa

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:57:04 2016 No.8616979 >>8613738 I am such a Cohen lover that I won't even talk about because I get tired, but I agree. I love Dylan though.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:00:30 2016 No.8616995

>>8613619
None of them. "Literary" song lyrics always come off as pretentious and they subtract from the actual music. The people who go into pop music wanting to be "literary" usually can't sing or play an instrument worth a shit, and the music they make always end up being garbage. Beyond that the lyrics are just middlebrow poetry about >muh love.

So you only ever end up with /lit/ lyrics if they're humorous/satirical.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:00:50 2016 No.8616999

>>8616890
I've listened to his first three albums multiple times each and there's absolutely nothing impressive about the lyricism on a single track. His delivery and the music made for him to perform over, fine, but the actual lyrics themselves are totally uninteresting and only discussed because of their subject matter and Kendrick's celebrity. Nobody would dare compare him to the great writers of the 20th century if they had even half a clue of what they were saying, because the difference in ability is so painfully obvious. It's like comparing Kanye West to Beethoven

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:01:49 2016 No.8617003 >>8616941 this

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:03:04 2016 No.8617011 >>8613738 cohen sucks blah blah joan of arc WOW HISTORICAL REFERENCE

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:05:26 2016 No.8617024
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>>8616995
>So you only ever end up with /lit/ lyrics if they're humorous/satirical.
So Zappa, then? most of his lyrics are purposely meaningless and he wrote albums worth of humorous/satirical content.

He could be singing about cottage cheese and throw stuff like pic related on the "background".

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:06:00 2016 No.8617029 >>8614864 she's garbage she just uses uncommon words

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:07:11 2016 No.8617036

>>8616999
you can say the same about Bob Dylan or any musician actually. That their lyrics don't stand out outside of their music and even if they are decent or good, they're elevated by being performed by the musician. Kendrick is usually a mediocre rapper actually, but when he tells stories like in Sing About Me is when he shines.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:08:22 2016 No.8617043 >>8617011 Yeah, shitface, sure. Still better than Eliot stealing his best lines from Shakespeare and Andrewes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:10:50 2016 No.8617051 >>8617036 Not really, Dylan's music is secondary or less to his lyrics. It's all about the words. Like, would you listen to an instrumental version of any of his songs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:16:56 2016 No.8617076 >>8616995 The only person I'd ascribe to have a literary style in music is the Kink's Ray Davies. Waterloo Sunset Dead End Street Mr. Pleasant Two Sisters Shangri-La He has remained a consistent and underappreciated lyricist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:53:32 2016 No.8617191 >>8616879 jesus christ will you people stop with this quentin shit it's obnoxious

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 21:03:09 2016 No.8617208 >>8613813 "I was looking for a job and then I found a job/Heaven knows I am miserable now" has been my anthem my entire life. Give the man a Nobel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:11:34 2016 No.8617408 >>8616800 THIS He deserves it just for Mt. Eerie, especially for III. Universe. He's /lit/ as fuck too, has a pretty great library.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:26:57 2016 No.8617456 Scott Walker Most literary-minded songwriter ever

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 01:31:19 2016 No.8617981

>>8616470
Ok I've just gotta say this.
I love the way his name looks.
Those letters look good when combined in all caps.
It looks more like a symbol than language when they are together.
Like when you were a kid and couldn't read yet, but could recognize "NIKE"
>>8616642
I just can't take it seriously. I can't help but laugh through it all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 01:37:42 2016 No.8617999 >>8616999 Kendrick's celebrity rose BECAUSE of his lyricism. I haven't listened to enough of his music to judge its quality as poetry but that needs to be said.

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 02:19:28 2016 No.8618071
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>>8613619
"In the kitchen
With a screaming triple amputee...
Its completion depends solely
On my needs...
Said amputee's stumps
Are my way of saying... "Thank you
Just for being you."
Its fear tastes better than its limbs.

Terror of morality
I draw from the slowly dying damned
Monsters live behind my eyes;
I let them out and people die.
And all the grave worms
That come for their piece of meat?
I give them dead things..
The wretched living are mine alone

Fright mounts with the body count
To which anthropomancy predicts a decline
In all of God's creation,
Can there be a lifestyle that's better than this?

I mark my territory
With their blood and excritement
And adipocere...
I can find my way in the dark;
My fulfilment is habitually necromanic
And anal abusive..
Seen through the eyes of a mortician

They've "caught" me, as they call it;
My teeth and my semen have betrayed me..
Nevermore!
Tests to gauge my rationale,
The likes of which these feeble minds have
Never seen.

Rorschach blotters,
My responses to which inspire fear...
From my lizard side,
The amoral alien speaks;
"These aren't butterflies,
I see a face I'd like to burn."

Obfuscation
Of the authorities with lies,
And my natur
Alability to charm and be me,
Or whoever they want;
I've known all minds by divine right."

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 02:22:15 2016 No.8618074 >>8617456 >Most literary-minded songwriter ever this is probably true

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 02:29:18 2016 No.8618085 >>8614488 >David Allen Coe Is there anyone who memed himself into infamy harder than him?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 02:33:23 2016 No.8618092 >>8613813 >ywn fuck morrissey in his prime just let the soil fall over my head already

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 02:57:29 2016 No.8618146 >>8613979 You probably haven't even listened to half of those people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 02:59:35 2016 No.8618152 >>8614926 He is incredibly popular. Not classic rock radio popular, but he is definitely very well known, at least now that is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 03:07:10 2016 No.8618168 >>8617981 Great contribution

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 03:08:05 2016 No.8618172 >>8616642 >>8613870 One of these

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 03:16:01 2016 No.8618193 File: 34 KB, 425x285, danreading.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ctr+F "dan bejar" >"0 of 0 results" c'mon guys

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 03:28:58 2016 No.8618228 >>8616999 Kanye West is superior to Beethoven honestly not even memeing to start an argument.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 04:14:12 2016 No.8618307 >>8613813 I came to this board to say that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 05:36:21 2016 No.8618406 >>8615653 Good choices

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 05:45:25 2016 No.8618414 File: 21 KB, 415x300, 1948FagenDonaldBeckerDonaldSteelyDan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >nobody posting these guys tell me Deacon Blues doesn't give you feels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 05:46:49 2016 No.8618416 >>8618071 best written gore lyrics

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 05:48:37 2016 No.8618418 File: 22 KB, 469x314, 1475604272296.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8618071 Pretty good, except for >"These aren't butterflies, I see a face I'd like to burn."

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 05:56:00 2016 No.8618428 Peter Sinfield

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 08:46:46 2016 No.8618757 File: 146 KB, 782x1024, igg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] could he?

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 08:54:37 2016 No.8618771
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>The mad kid walked left-side south-side towards me
>He was about 7
>His mother was a cleaning lady
>She had a large black dog
>And the mad kid said: "Gimme the lead, gimme the lead, gimme the lead"
>I'd just walked past the alcoholics' dry-out house
>The lawn was littered with cans of Barbican
>There was a feminist's Austin Maxi parked outside
>With anti-nicotine anti-nuclear stickers on the side (on the inside and they didn't even smoke)
>Anyway, two weeks before the mad kid had said to me
"I'll take both of you on, I'll take both of you on"
>Then he seemed the young one
>He had a parka on and a black cardboard Archbishop's hat
>With a green-fuzz skull and crossbones
>He'd just got back from the backward kids' party
>Anyway, then he seemed the young one, but now he looked like the victim
>of a pogrom

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 09:14:30 2016 No.8618810

>>8616818
Springsteen is essential medio-core.

Leonard Cohen is one of the best Lyricists of the 20th century. Get good.

>>8616828
The first Hank is an absolute legend but his lyrics are good for reasons other than their /lit/erary quality /lit/. Kristofferson is great but significantly worse than Townes or Bob Dylan.

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 09:19:55 2016 No.8618823

>>8616575
>>GET OFF AND WASH YO AAAASS NIGGUH
Unironically a great line.

>but it says silly words

inb4 some faggot claims I'm saying Kendrick deserves a Nobel prize, he obviously doesn't but you can pick plenty of stupid lines from Kendrick and that isn't one of them.

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 09:30:27 2016 No.8618846

>>8618771
8/10

>>8618071
0/10

>>8616976
6/10

>>8616941
7/10

>>8616575
6/10

>>8613738
9/10

>>8616008
8/10

>>8616003
7/10

>>8614864
7/10

>>8614791
3/10

>>8613619
6/10

>>8613636
2/10

>>8613813
6/10

>>8613836
9/10

>>8613861
7/10

>>8613868
7/10

>>8613878
5/10

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 09:32:12 2016 No.8618850 >implying there's better subject matter than fucking pussy and God

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 10:27:38 2016 No.8618964 >>8618846 lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 10:33:00 2016 No.8618974 File: 17 KB, 300x300, 1392767355_kanye_west_46.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "Now if I f**k this model And she just bleached her asshole And I get bleach on my T-shirt I’mma feel like an asshole"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 10:34:15 2016 No.8618976 File: 11 KB, 220x220, Bruce_Springsteen_-_Nebraska.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8618810 No

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 10:37:02 2016 No.8618986
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Not a single good post in this thread holy shit
Here's some 10/10 lyrics
"I kept everything inside
And even though I tried
It all fell apart
What it meant to me
Will eventually
Be a memory
Of a time I tired so hard"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 10:38:20 2016 No.8618992 File: 49 KB, 324x299, 1468776904312.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8618986

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 10:59:42 2016 No.8619045 >>8614488 Yup, Townes is in Dylan's league Maybe John Prine also

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 12:12:44 2016 No.8619226 File: 45 KB, 615x410, Nigel Blackwell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tbh

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 12:23:55 2016 No.8619263 File: 493 KB, 3200x1680, 635769843829078684-Taylor-Corey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "People = Shit People = Shit People = Shit People = Shit"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 12:30:26 2016 No.8619278 File: 20 KB, 480x360, hqdefault (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 12:59:53 2016 No.8619369
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Not nit not nit no not
Nit nit folly bololey
Alifi my larder
Alifi my larder
I can't forsake you or
Forsqueak you
Alifi my larder
Alifi my larder
Confiscate or make you
Late you you
Alifi my larder Alifi my larder
Not nit not nit no not
Nit nit folly bololy
Burlybunch, the water mole
Hellyplop and fingerhole
Not a wossit bundy, see ?
For jangle and bojangle
Trip trip
Pip pippy pippy pip pip landerim
Alifi my larder
Alifi my larder

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:02:03 2016 No.8619377 >>8613738 this

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:03:06 2016 No.8619379 >>8613979 this guy gets it

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:08:11 2016 No.8619395

>>8616847
when u kiss me
n say u luv me
it makes me feel so gud
i wanna break down
n give in 2 u
i wanna believe that your the 1
you give me my pills
n sing this strange song
n all my hurtin goes away
i start 2 drift off with u beside me
i wanna believe that yre the 1

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:12:00 2016 No.8619408 File: 38 KB, 896x584, mickey gyro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613619

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:24:08 2016 No.8619436 >>8613843 meal that makes you think, with each album released he was setting the bar higher

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:27:10 2016 No.8619442 >>8613619 Kristofferson

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:27:19 2016 No.8619443 >>8614909 the last time i went to manchester those lads mugged me

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:29:29 2016 No.8619446 >>8613738 1. Cohen 2. Joni Mitchell 3. Guthrie 4. Dylan

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:29:42 2016 No.8619447 File: 80 KB, 874x600, the guy from warzaw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hi guys

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:30:59 2016 No.8619451 >>8616642 this

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:31:59 2016 No.8619454 >>8614524 don't add a name or anything. if you did, people might know who the fuck you're talking about. not many are going to tin eye a pic to find out, superfan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:34:00 2016 No.8619458 >>8619454 >not knowing nick drake you cant get more pleb than this

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:36:01 2016 No.8619464
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Det var en vind så stark att statens alla skattepengar
yrde runt om bleka tjänstemän som slog i sina skalor
och på Strömmen kretsa' måsarna med tysta papperssvalor
och gatubullret dränktes i vilda flygbladssvängar.

Över människor som trott att själva staden var nervös
satt en vädersol och bågnade, ett järtecken i skyn
det var en vind som riste öarna, en medeltida syn
och staden var en skärgård. Urban Målare var lös.

Under Slussen när trafiken i ett trollslag stannade
hördes vågorna som fräsande från Saltsjön slog mot sten
på perrongerna stod människor som log när vinden ven
medans andra börja' gråta eller blev förbannade

Det var en vind som svepte med sig korsettannonserna
och dom jättestora skönhetsmedlen fanns där inte mer
och i ögonen på alla oss som annars inte ser
lyste vädersolens märke från reklamaffischerna

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:36:30 2016 No.8619466 >>8619447 This

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:37:47 2016 No.8619470

>>8614821
My friend was at a function, and this guy was there (that's the singer for Nickelback, right?).

This 11/10 superhot woman started coming on to him, he puts up with it for a minute then pulls out his phone and says, "I've got to take this call" and walks away.

She starts screaming, "It didn't even vibrate! It didn't even ring! There's no call! THERE'S NO CALL!!"

My friend figured it was the first time in her life she'd been ignored.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:38:56 2016 No.8619476 File: 81 KB, 594x596, 1471drake768649mfw230.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8614926 >Drake is very under appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 15:15:04 2016 No.8619707 >>8616860 >I'm dumb >She's a lesbian It's art

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 15:16:46 2016 No.8619712 >>8619395 CRY AND CRY AND LET IT OUT WE HAVE TO SAY THAT IT'S OVER NOW EVEN AS I ANNOINT YOUR DOOR I'M LOOKING OUT FOR SOMETHING MORE CRY AND CRY I'M CRYING TOO CUZ NO ONE TOUCHES ME LIKE YOU DO I DONT WANT MY MOM TO KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN A DIRTY BOY

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 02:05:04 2016 No.8621136 File: 166 KB, 1181x1175, 10-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613619 Waits is still the best wordsmith. Listen to Make it Rain, Hoist that Rag or the whole Alice album to convince yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 02:10:57 2016 No.8621145 >>8615741 Cave is GOAT, ignore the plebs. Last albums were a letdown though, I want the rock back, not this polished fragile shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 02:16:30 2016 No.8621151 >>8617456 This here is your answer.

Anonymous Sat Oct 15 02:45:42 2016 No.8621199

Acceptable answers that come to mind:
Cohen, Newsom
>>8613636
no
>>8613813
As much as I love the Smiths for their music, I wouldn't say he deserves it.
>>8613836
no
>>8613854
How did I forget about him? Possibly.
>>8613861
No
>>8613868
Good but no dice
>>8614025
FUCK EM CALL EM RITA IF YOU WANT
nah, though
>>8614433
HEY THERE
FUCK FACE
nah
>>8614488
Good but no dice
>>8614524
Good but no dice
>>8614791
Not only no, but also fuck you.
>>8616003
He's clearly the largest figure in pushing hip hop forward, but since an award for lyrics would include all genres, other's would be more deserving.
>>8616008
Good but inconsistent
>>8616575
Contender
>>8618193
hack
>>8618757
Hot, but no
>>8619408
FLEX YOUR MUSCLESSSSSSSSS
nah
>>8619447
Contender, especially for shadowplay
>>8621145
lmao

I'm not familiar enough with Springsteen

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 02:58:20 2016 No.8621215 File: 4 KB, 229x159, cool.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some of the lyrics on the Downward Spiral album are the only ones that do anything at all for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 03:02:41 2016 No.8621222 >>8614188 Naw Pete's all about delivery. I think even lyrical masterpieces like Family Snapshot would lose a lot if they weren't sung.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 03:03:44 2016 No.8621224 >>8613619 Serge Gainsbourg mes amis

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 03:12:12 2016 No.8621239 >>8613619 Deserved what?? What is "it"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 04:17:32 2016 No.8621363 >>8613619 Does anyone think else think it's weird that there isn't a nobel prize for music?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 05:50:22 2016 No.8621517 >>8621239 nobel prize for lit

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 06:23:33 2016 No.8621561 >>8613836 Damn...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 07:33:54 2016 No.8621656 Momus

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 10:15:47 2016 No.8621942 File: 69 KB, 461x336, bait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8614921 >Elvis Costello are you fucking kidding me?@?@?@?!?!?!?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 10:31:47 2016 No.8621963 >>8616008 This. Also, GotGH is a great album with beautiful lyrics. Even Lily and Parrots and Last Tide are great songs (Duk Koo Kim is one of his best works, imho). In par with Rollercoaster, maybe.

Anonymous Sat Oct 15 10:59:05 2016 No.8622006

none of the people itt deserved it
neither did Dylan.
Giving the Nobel for literature to a rock n roll singer was an insult to both literature and rock n roll.

That said, this is just a thread to namedrop favorite lyricists so
Moondog
Kool Keith
Captain Beefheart
Henk Hofstede
Bob Dylan is still my favorite though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 11:00:16 2016 No.8622010 >>8613703 He was just a jealous guy

Anonymous Sat Oct 15 11:10:00 2016 No.8622030

>>8616879
>If I showed you a poem (as in a good poem that took intelligence and skill to write, not a top 40 pop song), could you tell me what meter it was written in? Could you identify the difference between the stressed and unstressed syllables? Its approximate age, the genre conventions it subscribes to or parodies?

I could do all of those things, and there are definitely some underground hip hop artists (not rappers like Kodak Black or Fetty Wap, or even the bigger names, whoever they might be these days) who have works that I would consider highly poetic.

Check out Blue Scholars with tracks like Joe Metro, Anna Karenina, Loyalty, and Still Got Love for a great example.
Atmosphere is another good one with songs like Sunshine and The Girl with the Tattooed Hands.
Also Brother Ali. Songs like Tightrope and Uncle Sam Goddam are a little in-your-face with their SJW-type messages, Forest Whitaker is a little better.

Not saying of these would be on the level of the great poets we talk about, or that they are worthy of study as poetry in an academic setting, but they certainly qualify as poetry and have something over shit like Lil Uzi Vert.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 11:18:04 2016 No.8622057 >>8622006 Moondog? Everything I've heard of his is either alyrical except for maybe one or two pieces that had literally one or two spoken lines. Or is there a another Moondog?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 12:25:04 2016 No.8622196 >>8622030 That shit is all terrible. Lil Wayne is a much better lyricist than any of your lolmetaphors fitloadsofwordsintooneline backpacker shot. Atmosphere is some of the least poetic rap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 12:45:39 2016 No.8622243 >>8613738 This X 100. Leonard Cohen is a better songwriter than Dylan (not that Dylan is bad, by any measure), plus he wrote two novels that have considerable merit.

Anonymous Sat Oct 15 13:54:16 2016 No.8622389

>>8622196
>Lil Wayne is a much better lyricist than any of your lolmetaphors

Wayne can write a good pun, and that's about it. He rarely has anything to say that isn't "get money, fuck bitches" like every other rapper out there. At least the acts I mentioned make an attempt to speak to something more meaningful.

I can understand your dislike of Atmosphere, they're not gonna be everybody's cup of tea, same with Brother Ali. But have you actually listened to Blue Scholars? Go into any of those tracks I listed with an open mind and you won't be disappointed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 15:15:55 2016 No.8622596 Eminem

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 18:25:43 2016 No.8623204 File: 38 KB, 412x412, chief keef.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the whitest thread I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 18:29:23 2016 No.8623214 >>8613955 >Guthrie >when he was alive I gather you mean Woody Guthrie, not Arlo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 18:38:56 2016 No.8623228 >>8614166 THIS

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 20:32:52 2016 No.8623551 >>8617011 that song is about cohen's experience in the idf. it's far from being an empty reference.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 04:43:33 2016 No.8624692 >>8614166 Yes! And Brassens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 04:54:08 2016 No.8624713 File: 235 KB, 600x875, Bertolt-Brecht.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8613619 For Threepenny Opera.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 08:16:17 2016 No.8625085 >>8624713 >muh verfremdungseffekt

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 11:11:27 2016 No.8625487 joanna newsom

Anonymous Sun Oct 16 12:24:29 2016 No.8625685

I'm truly sorry,
For what I never did,
But I forgive you, too;
For your indifference.
You were a lonely child,
Laid open to the world,
And when I looked in your eyes
I saw myself there too,
So please forgive me now,
For what we never had,
Although it's useless to say,
I wish you happiness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 12:38:08 2016 No.8625720 >>8621363 No not at all. What is weird is that there isn't one for mathematics. My old math teacher used to say that it is because a mathematician fucked Nobel's wife.

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