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ITT: Books that actually changed/had a significant effect on your life

>> No.8609214

You'll trigger the frogposters and neo nazis

>> No.8609228

>Implying right-wing children have the attention span to read

>> No.8609237

To be fair, it is an incredibly biased pop history book.

>> No.8609247

It's extremely biased, but it's definitely not 'pop history', it's actually very very accurate.

Zinn clearly states his bias at the start of the book, in fact it's even in the fucking name

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>a biased history book

Why, I never..

>> No.8609257

Yeah the whole point is to counter the narrative Americans are fed in school that they're the greatest country on earth, built by 'great men' etc etc

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no joke

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>> No.8609332

Well, at this point the narrative of A People's History of the United States IS the narrative taught in schools, or at least a lot of them. We read it in my junior year.

>> No.8609342

You should head over to /his, there is, at this very moment, a raging debate concerning this very book. Some people clearly do not like the neo-liberal perspectives and exploration of the ramifications of the various so-called "Great American Achievements." This book completely changed the way I look at history and current events. It was THE textbook for my senior history class in High School, reading this, along with many PDF's from J-STOR, actually put the whole American Mythos into perspective. My school was private albeit extremely left wing I am glad to have received an education that enabled me to have a somewhat objective view towards current events. I even bought a copy recently, although it's been sitting unopened on my bookshelf, I do intend to read it again, but this time along with other, less biased, texts.

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Did it fucken blow your mind? Here's another one:

Vickers. Work in Essex County.

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>> No.8609549

Where was the school?

>> No.8609611

not OP but I went to a liberal private school in Santa Monica, California which fits the description that teaches this book junior year in conjunction with the AP US History book and some other texts.

>> No.8609623


War is a Racket
Communist Manifesto (I am not a communist though)
Age of Reason
Science and the Near Death Experience
Some of Schopenhauers Essays
1984 when I was younger

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>> No.8609716

Oh i see, I was just in Santa Monica for a few months. I went to a small Liberal Private school in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

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To be quite honest.

>> No.8609724

Crossroads school ?

>> No.8609745

Declaring your bias doesn't negate the numerous issues with the book. I agree with Zinn on numerous topics and am a card-carrying member of a tiny nobody socialist organization, but what he wrote is, evaluated as a work of history, not very good.

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I recomend that everyone reread this book on a regular basis. When I read it in high school, it did nothing for me. When I read it in college it changed the way I think about my life. Every time I pick up this book I get something new from it.

>> No.8609779

Same for me. I remember reading this as a 13 year old, and despite not understanding most of it, it made me want to become a writer.

>> No.8609870

It's not meant to be objective, it's meant to tell the story of working class people

>> No.8609875

Are you fucking serious.
Literal bullshit by a butthurt gommie. Hey Zinn, Americans never wanted the system to be destroyed. They just wanted it to be fairer, which progressives massively fixed.

History major here. Read it last year for school, alongside Paul Johnson's American history. Great exercise from Prof.

>> No.8609916

anything that says "peoples" is cancer for the actual peoples

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Made a fuck ton of money after reading this and getting my license. my community has been in a housing boom since the 90s and didn't slow during 2008.

>> No.8609922

Lol not like you benefited from any of their struggles

>> No.8609978

name a struggle that ran under a banner of "peoples" that has benefited me in some way.

the only instance i recall is the peoples or populist party which failed miserably otherwise agrarian based economics would've taken a foothold not to long in front of the Great Depression.

>> No.8609981

woops, mis attached my reply

>> No.8609983


Course you can make money doing real estate, most people just don't have the charisma, guts, drive, or even the know how of doing so.

You don't even need a degree you're like a car salesman that people actually respect and come to for every need involving their housing situations.

>> No.8609986

The labour rights movement?...

>> No.8611495

hs history teacher chiming in. what anon says is pretty true. however the majority of the states do not adhere to this and are still holding on to american exceptionalism. coincidentally, that occurs mostly in the southern and central states. shocking i know.

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>> No.8611557

Did you buy it in a set of books or did you read all of them?

>> No.8611585

So? That doesn't redeem its quality as a history book.

>> No.8611602

Have you ever read this by John Dolan? It's pretty amusing because he's an extremely bitter guy.

The essay is his experience teaching in Iraq and the history class they teach to the Kurdish students is American exceptionalism on steroids.

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How did it change your life anon?

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I really recommend you this one. It changed my life

>> No.8611634

Thus spoke Zarathustra

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not even kidding

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>tfw you will never be a stormtrooper wild man jumping over trenches armed with a dozen grenades and a spade

>> No.8611696

Which one is the second?

>> No.8611711

why would anyone think you were

>> No.8611714

Teachers just put on John meme videos now.

>> No.8611739

what in age of reason changed your life

>> No.8611764


Have not read this yet but it's in my stack. I also want to know how this changed your life.

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Book was kinda shitty but it really made me think.

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It helped me better understand why leftists are so attracted to posturing and sanctimony, and why logic frightens them so much.

It also helped me understand why they're mentally incapable of reasoning, making debate useless--all we can do for these poor souls is contain them and try to keep their hateful ideology from spreading to more edgy college dropouts.

>> No.8612015

Did it make you want to move into an isolated cabin? I know I do.

>> No.8612038

The /pol/ sticky
Books are for fags

>> No.8612255

Yep. (currently a senior t b h)

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Yes good goy! Be ashamed of your history! Hand over your land and your women!

>> No.8612719

Not my favorites by now, but Dorian Grey is the book that got me into reading classic literature instead of just sci-fi or whatever I read as a kid.

Joseph Campbell's The Hero with a Thousand Faces is what stopped me from being an edgy atheist and gave me a reason to want to dive into old myths and stories and religions instead of mocking them.

I don't remember the name but I read some history of western philosophy book and it really blew my mind, as someone who had previously known nothing.

Man, The State, and War changed my political beliefs.

Eichmann in Jerusalem and The Human Condition are really eating at me right now, probably the most up to date recommendation I can give. I don't agree with it all but it's really engaging and challenging.

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>reading baby tier communist books makes you an intellectual

>> No.8612831

It's not just a 'history book' though

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>> No.8612870

what did man the state and war change for you?

>> No.8612907

Not him but it changed my life, that's sure.
Once you get where he's coming from, his influences and the movements he does to write the book, it clicks, and you realize that he pretty much predicted how and where late capitalism would fail and reform itself, whilte the process was only beginning.

TSotS is probably the greatest manifestation of "pharmakon", the poison/medicine, because while it sure points to some very interesting ways of interrupting the Spectacle, Debord wrote it knowing he'd get "recuperated" the moment the book was read by someone outside his direct sphere of influence, so it would eventually become a part of the Spectacle (as it did, people read his books on fucking MARKETING SCHOOL).

Putting it in very memetic terms: Guy Debord was probably the most unspooked man since Sankt Max walked the earth (also, a cool factoid: the situationists are pretty much the people responsible for the resurfacing interest in Stirner. They were both translated to portuguese by the same guy actually, João Barrento).

>> No.8612920

>covering history from the perspective of the people that go unreported is biased
Well yes that's the point

>> No.8612927

>if you critically analyse our professions of noble intentions and compare them to the less than stellar results, you are a communist

>> No.8612928

Stop replying, you got redpilled to DEATH

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>Biographer Martin Duberman noted that when he was asked directly if he was a Marxist, Zinn replied, "Yes, I'm something of a Marxist.

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>when babby tier SJWs think their spooks are special

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I re-read it maybe twice a year.

Still no closer to actually figuring it out, but I enjoy the ride every time.

>> No.8613315

>going to an 'extremely left wing' school
>getting an objective view on current events

You are delusional my friend

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Not memeing.

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No one EVER talks about Sebald here. Greatest contemporary writer.

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Completely turned upside down the way I look at contemporary western politics.

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Made me believe in ghosts, almost literally.

>> No.8613340

Can't refute the Scrute.

>> No.8613369

It's a meme here.

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Based Hayek.

>> No.8613386

wow what an original view.
also, thinking nu-leftist = leftist.

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>> No.8613472

>private school
>extremely left wing
How are these two things reconciled?

Wouldn't "extremely left wing" people be in favour of socialized education (ie. public school)?

>> No.8613475

The last time I mentioned him to a friend on his fb status some leftist gave me a wall of text rant on how Hitler and co were in no way ever leftist and the reation to Hayek was "LOL"

I'll have to read more of him, Road to Serfdom was excellent.

>> No.8613488

Read The Constitution of Liberty if you haven't already.

>> No.8613494

Left wing and right wing are meaningless in the contemporary context. There is no reason why a school would at the same time not be ran on a capitalist model and promote progressive social views such as abortion and gay marriage.

>> No.8613515

I've been thinking of Law, Legislation and Liberty as his magnum opus.

>> No.8613718

Sartre's Nausea. Such a liberating book. If that frog eyed bastard was still around I'd hug him.

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Can't pick one but this is the last one that made an impression on me.

This is proper history. Makes you reconsider so many assumptions and forces you to think about aspects of the war you could have never possibly imagined.

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Thomas Sowell books are almost always very thought provoking.

>> No.8613817

Power of One by Bryce Courtenay (not a ridiculous self-help book)
Slaughterhouse Five redefined my way of looking at the world.

>> No.8613988

can't be contemporary if dead yo

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>> No.8614532

I lost all respect for Zinn after I read the first chapter and saw that he only spent a paragraph mentioning that the Aztecs would rip out the hearts of their own citizens. He's the definition of pushing an agenda. He doesn't write because he wants to support the disadvantaged, he writes because he hates the upper class.

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