Why does /lit/ hate comics so much?

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Anonymous Thu Oct 6 19:56:52 2016 No.8591245 [Reply] [Original]

Why does /lit/ hate comics so much?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:01:34 2016 No.8591262 Writing is always bad. Yes, always.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:06:34 2016 No.8591279 it's poison for the imagination.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:07:02 2016 No.8591283 I don't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:07:58 2016 No.8591287 They're picture books. End of story.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:08:17 2016 No.8591290 >>8591245 Picture books for manchildren

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:10:48 2016 No.8591301 For children: A moral fable accompanied by pictures. For adults: It's all pictures with speech bubbles of people saying retarded shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:11:49 2016 No.8591304 >>8591245 I don't hate them. I just think they belong on /co/. sage

Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:17:00 2016 No.8591317
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Because /lit/ is obsessed with pretense and maintaining the appearance of being enlightened intellectuals. You can't namedrop Alan Moore or Geoff Johns or Swamp Thing into a conversation and appear superior.

The truth with comics is the same with literature though, most of it is genre-trash. But there are, and always have been, works of true cultural and (dare I say) literary merit- if you look for them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 20:17:13 2016 No.8591319 There are plenty of good comics, but this isn't /co/

Anonymous Thu Oct 6 21:15:35 2016 No.8591530

Post a thread with an actual comic-related question and you'll get decent answers here (if the comic isn't some generic capeshit/manga/horror garbage). There are always the insecure fucks who have to explain to you that an art form thousands of years old is total and absolute garbage, and those who redirect to /co/ (even though 95% of /co/ users probably don't know who Chris Ware is), but everyone else ignores them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 21:20:46 2016 No.8591545 >>8591530 >even though 95% of /co/ users probably don't know who Chris Ware is Along with 95% of europe, which 95% of good comics come from (just a gratuitous reminder)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 21:42:50 2016 No.8591645 >>8591245 We don't, but it's a separate thing that has its own board. Same reason you don't make animal threads on /out/. >>8591317 Well, Moore you probably could

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 6 21:51:36 2016 No.8591691 File: 1.29 MB, 1536x2048, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8591245 Lack of depth. The best comix subvert the tropes, but they're still shitty comic book tropes. Also, most of the medium is about men in capes.

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 08:47:18 2016 No.8592900
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>>8591245
Ignorance and lack of interest, mostly. These guys think Vendetta and Watchmen are still defining the genre, though Fantagraphics and D&Q moved far away from capes decades ago. There are many worthy graphic novels out there, but you can't judge them just as if they were text-only novels, any more than you judge theatre like cinema. And like cinema or pop music, it's a genre greatly dominated by juvenile mass-market entertainment stuff, and easy to dismiss. But hey, I like dumb movies and dumb comics sometimes too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 08:56:00 2016 No.8592915 Because 90% of everything is trash, even ordinary literature.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 08:56:25 2016 No.8592917 >>8591245 Video Games and Literary works have better and more profound writing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:05:53 2016 No.8592939 >>8592917 What would you consider a profound video game? Just curious: I've never seen anything I would remotely attach that label to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:07:04 2016 No.8592942 File: 250 KB, 416x396, 1467681859747.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8592900 Is that shelf supposed to convince us you know what you're talking about?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:07:47 2016 No.8592944 File: 3.29 MB, 1500x1093, Secret_of_Mana_(US).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8592939 Not him but Secret of Mana 1/2 were certainly profound for me. And I say this as someone who in general can't stand weebshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:11:22 2016 No.8592958 >>8592939 Kentucky route zero

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:12:49 2016 No.8592961 >>8592939 Pathologic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:13:05 2016 No.8592962 >>8592900 embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:13:29 2016 No.8592965 >>8592939 as far as story goes... Naughty Dog games always make me feel something. The Last of Us was the first game that made me go 'wow, this is the most beautiful thing i have ever played'

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:14:40 2016 No.8592967 >>8592942 Convincing you isn't my concern, but I do know what I'm talking about in this field. I teach a course in comics, have published articles related to it, and have degrees in fine arts and literature.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:15:49 2016 No.8592975 >>8591245 I dont hate them, but its not literature. The same argument we make with harry potter was made 40 years ago about comic books. Just having kids read does not make them readers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:16:18 2016 No.8592978 File: 266 KB, 1200x1200, 1467886461741.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8592967 Is there anything worse than a two-bit community college professor who robbed the world of a degree in fine arts when he lacks the most basic of taste?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:16:22 2016 No.8592979 Bad art + bad writing = clumpy doody

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:16:52 2016 No.8592980 File: 329 KB, 1200x1679, Crusader-kings-2-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8592939 A feels simulator

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:18:42 2016 No.8592989 >>8592980 Not actually profound, but it is very fun and even educative

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:20:23 2016 No.8592992 >>8592989 I would say that it's more inviting you to go educate yourself about things you had no concept of or interest in earlier, not educative in itself

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:24:13 2016 No.8593005 File: 553 KB, 531x543, 1456544883192.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8592992 >>8592989 Educational

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:25:55 2016 No.8593009 >>8593005 sorry yo no espiko el inglés

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:29:02 2016 No.8593018 >>8593005 fucking nerd go read a book lmao, fucking bookworm do some fucking math why dontcha

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:40:53 2016 No.8593045
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Why are /co/ such closed-minded manchildren? Comics are such an under-appreciated art form the fact that most of those that do appreciate them don't even see them as an art form is just sad.

Oh, and have any of you read pic related? Shit gave me some bad feels man

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:49:48 2016 No.8593070 >>8592978 I'm sure there is. If you concentrate your mental powers to their utmost, perhaps an example will come to you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:54:51 2016 No.8593079 File: 505 KB, 1642x1200, 023.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8592900 >>8592967 >>8593070

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:55:30 2016 No.8593081

Comic books were invented in the early twentieth-century because the cultural elite realized people were getting too stupid for books. They'd deliberately made them this stupid, it was expected, but they saw an opportunity here to also capitalize on it. Then people became too stupid for comic books, so they came out with television, and they moved comic books to "university level" and kids in college started studying them. Now people are getting too stupid for television, so television is being moved to "university level" art, and we're all just watching Vines and YouTube videos, the "best" of which will in a few decades be pored over in state colleges across the nation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 09:58:31 2016 No.8593092 File: 39 KB, 500x484, 1444660792602.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8593081 "The cultural elite"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:06:10 2016 No.8593108 >>8593092 spook levels hencetofore unwitnessed

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:12:53 2016 No.8593123 File: 801 KB, 1277x3197, vgWYFs6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8591262 >he hasn't read Alan Moore

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:21:55 2016 No.8593147 >>8593123 Yes, he's cringeworthy, as proven by his embarrassing attempt at writing an actual book

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:24:28 2016 No.8593151 >>8593147 Voice of the Fire is legitimately good though. Or do you mean Jerusalem, the one you haven't read?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:31:35 2016 No.8593168 >>8592939 Kentucky Road Zero, Pathologic, Planescape: Torment. Legacy of Kain. The works I would consider literary in games are about as rare as in film.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:32:40 2016 No.8593170 >>8592965 >I have played literally less than 100 games in my life Naughty dog is the summer blockbuster equivalent of games. The Last of Us is like saying Gravity is the most beautiful film.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:39:20 2016 No.8593182 >>8593123 I love comics and Moore is great writing them But his writing is bad. Great for comics, but it is bad. And that is because >>8591262 is right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:43:14 2016 No.8593199 >>8593182 What makes his writing bad?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:44:42 2016 No.8593203 >>8593199 that it is for comics

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:46:51 2016 No.8593212 >>8593203 So comics are bad because the writing is bad, "always", and the writing is bad because it is for comics. Gotcha.

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:49:11 2016 No.8593223

>>8593170
>summer blockbuster game
sure Uncharted is pretty much that but Last of Us isnt. Besides there is different ways to interpret beautiful. Loads of ppl say Gravity was beautiful ( i dont) just because of the special effects and the filming etc.
What is ur favourite game then?
Also, just because something is 'blockbuster' doesnt mean its defacto bad. Bioshock Infinite for example. Super blockbuster game, super amazing anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:56:29 2016 No.8593252 >>8593223 not the man you were replying to, but >Bioshock Infinite >super amazing is laughable.

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 10:57:16 2016 No.8593256

>>8593212
>So comics are bad because the writing is bad
I never said that. Comics aren't bad, comics are great. Compared with books are bad. But you can't read a comic with the book idea. Like you can't see a movie like you read a comic
And the Moore's writing is bad because it is for comics, but it is great in that world.

Now, if we will talk about comics like some kind of book, you can't deny that they are bad even if they are the best in their style.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:01:45 2016 No.8593267 >>8593223 You have a long journey ahead of you m8

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:06:17 2016 No.8593281 >>8592965 >>8593223 top pleb

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:10:24 2016 No.8593292

>>8593256
Comics are visual storytelling using a combination of art, symbolism and words. I have no idea how you personally judge what is good or bad writing in this medium. Do you mean literal writing, like with letters and words, or do you mean storytelling and atmosphere and shit?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:20:29 2016 No.8593313 >>8591245 I really like comics but I'm not into super heroes. I like manga as well, but anime is inferior.

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:21:15 2016 No.8593316

>>8593252
>>8593267
>>8593281
talk about being fucking autistic. Let me guess, the only game u play is 'chess'. Go wank off to ur mom. srsly, so full of urselves when it comes to video games. talk about being fucking losers. u know what other games are good? Overwatch, CoD, Fifa, Battlefield, Witcher, fuck even the original pokemon's were alright. Does hearing that cause u to spaz out? Are u going to have to write a full essay explaining why my opinion is wrong and why u are so much more knowledgable?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:21:51 2016 No.8593318 >>8593256 Writing doesn't equal books you fucking retard. We talk about Shakespeare.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:22:30 2016 No.8593322 >>8593316 >thinks Bioshock Infinite was beautiful >calls other autistic

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:22:43 2016 No.8593323 File: 1.83 MB, 788x7000, 027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this literature

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:23:18 2016 No.8593325 >>8593316 M E M E D >>8593322 Art style was pretty good mang. >>8593323 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:23:44 2016 No.8593328 >>8591245 I love comics

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:23:46 2016 No.8593329 >>8593292 >storytelling and atmosphere and shit Those things. Draws could be replaced by descripctions in a book, then we can see that stories are... mmm... bland Stop thinking that I don't like comics

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:24:24 2016 No.8593332 >>8593323 i think so

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:24:47 2016 No.8593335 >>8593329 >Draws could be replaced by descripctions in a book, then we can see that stories are... mmm... bland no >stories "no"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:25:30 2016 No.8593336 >>8593316 to r/games, sir

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:25:39 2016 No.8593339 >>8591245 I'm quite fond of them. Granted most of them have garbage writing but that does not mean that they are inherently worse than books. They have interesting stories sometimes and are able to tell them it ways that a book never could.

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:27:36 2016 No.8593344
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I welcome someone to show me a comic where the following isn't true.

The reason even "elite" "patrician" comics are bad is because the writers pretend to have some kind of deep philosophical insight when at best they have that quasi-nihilism that seems to be the default worldview of the modern era. They have nothing of value to actually say, and their closest relatives are the "hard science fiction" writers who think they're deep for promoting ideology like Malthusianism which has neither moral nor empirical justification.

It's just embarrassing. I like the artwork, but the writer almost always lets the artist down with this shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:28:20 2016 No.8593349 >>8593335 Why no and "no"'

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:28:36 2016 No.8593350 >>8593344 see >>8593323

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:28:38 2016 No.8593351 >>8593344 Also, the sense of "humor" I find in a lot of popular comics today is utter garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:28:57 2016 No.8593352 >>8593349 "no" for emphasis plot id for plebs pleb

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:29:08 2016 No.8593353 >>8593350 No. It is modern visual art, at best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:29:28 2016 No.8593354 >>8591245 /lit/sters are looked down on irl by normies, therefore they need something to look down on, like YA and comics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:31:54 2016 No.8593361 >>8593352 great, I don't get it then

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:32:21 2016 No.8593363 >>8593329 That isn't at all true. How many comics have you read?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:32:30 2016 No.8593365 >>8593354 nice projection, fag

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:32:46 2016 No.8593366 >>8593361 as I said pleb

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:33:40 2016 No.8593368 >>8592975 Everybody I know who has a reading habit started with comic books (myself included - began picking up books when I ran out of interesting comics at the public library)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:35:08 2016 No.8593374 >>8593366 hey, when I write my post and you didn't get I explain it for you 2 times. You are pleb as I.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:36:26 2016 No.8593378 >>8593344 Give me an example of a comic you have read claiming to have deep philosophical insight. And most of that nihilistic stuff probably is just nihilistic. Self hate comics are fun to draw.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:36:47 2016 No.8593379 >>8593368 I have a /lit/-tier friend who never read any comics as a kid. Though I lent him some Peter Milligan in adulthood which he appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:38:06 2016 No.8593381 >>8593363 A lot, really. I love comics

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:38:46 2016 No.8593384 >>8593374 I got it

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:38:52 2016 No.8593385

>>8593378
My friend, they would never claim to have any insight at all. They simply write with an unearned sense of confidence.

As for comics that were recommended to me because of how "extremely patrician" they are, I'm thinking of Nao of Brown, Duncan the Wonder Dog, and Habibi

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:39:41 2016 No.8593387 >>8593368 lel, I started with Garfield and Calvin & Hobbes

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:39:49 2016 No.8593388 >>8592975 That argument "we" make is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:44:39 2016 No.8593405 >>8593323 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:47:49 2016 No.8593418 >>8593385 >unearned sense of confidence Uh, you must be one of those people who can't, like, settle on just saying... stuff? >Habibi shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:48:38 2016 No.8593426 >>8593418 You seem like the type of person who finds Richard Dawkins convincing on religion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:49:14 2016 No.8593427 >>8593418 >Uh, you must be one of those people who can't, like, settle on just saying... stuff? >>>/tumblr/

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:50:17 2016 No.8593432 File: 31 KB, 221x403, hellboy doesn't like it.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8592900 >no hellboy

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:50:59 2016 No.8593438 >>8593432 more like hellgoy

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:51:27 2016 No.8593442 >>8593426 Free tip: stop ending your sentences in upward inflections and twitching your face in doubt whenever you open your mouth and people will, at last, stop assuming you're a little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 11:59:48 2016 No.8593472 File: 466 KB, 1280x817, tumblr_nlcldsbx6n1t0t09yo1_1280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8593344 is this copypasta? I feel like a lot of what you said applies to modern lit as well.

Anonymous Fri Oct 7 12:59:46 2016 No.8593659

>>8593388
It absolutely is not.

“One can never read too little of bad, or too much of good books: bad books are intellectual poison; they destroy the mind.

In order to read what is good one must make it a condition never to read what is bad; for life is short, and both time and strength limited.”

― Arthur Schopenhauer, Essays and Aphorisms

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 13:11:46 2016 No.8593705 >>8593659 It absolutely is not because Schopenhauer said so? In the meme quote you've learned from that picture, like everybody else here? Not even getting into the irony of anyone posting it on 4chan...

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 13:17:13 2016 No.8593726 >>8593705 >me quote you've learned from that picture, like everybody else here? >Not even getting into the irony of anyone posting it on 4chan.. Your rebuttal is shit just like your "there is no such thing as a bad book" argument.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 13:39:13 2016 No.8593802 >>8593659 >never read will and representation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 13:46:30 2016 No.8593826 >>8593726 Never made that argument. I just saw your sheep post and shat on it, as deserved.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 14:50:41 2016 No.8593982 >>8593659 Reading the occasional piece of shit is a key part of developing taste, as is dipping your toes in other mediums and genres- including comic books.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 15:59:20 2016 No.8594194 >>8593726 What "there is no such thing as a bad book" argument?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 17:40:39 2016 No.8594547 I challenge anyone in this thread to explain how Asterios Polyp is bad in any way, including writing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 7 18:26:30 2016 No.8594719 >>8594547 The art looks like shit

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>>	Stay In Your Containment Board Fri Oct 7 20:55:44 2016 No.8595234 File: 394 KB, 584x622, this kills the lit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8591245 >>>/co/ Because there is a board for that. Stop posting off topic shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 02:27:05 2016 No.8596161 >>8592965 As a /v/ regular I actually can't believe what I'm reading. Maybe you'd like BioShock Infinite too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 06:17:31 2016 No.8596465 >>8593081 >taking Adorno and Horkheimer this literally

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 07:55:28 2016 No.8596637 >>8591245 They fit within a space in between books and animation/movies which I'm not that interested in occupying. I'm sure there are great comics. But they really do nothing for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 14:14:55 2016 No.8597703 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 14:25:01 2016 No.8597724 Comics are just a medium I don't indulge in. Manga is an exception, however.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 15:32:18 2016 No.8597917 Anyone know where to download graphic novels online?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 15:42:21 2016 No.8597936 >>8597917 >>>/co/86811804

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 15:47:32 2016 No.8597959 >>8597936 thanks anon, appreciate ya

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 15:50:36 2016 No.8597965 >>8597917 /rs/ was the shit for this. Too bad it's gone now. Just browse /co/ and search through its archive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 15:59:17 2016 No.8597986 File: 70 KB, 492x295, saga-12-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8591262 but muh deep plots, muh indie comics

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:04:03 2016 No.8598001 Name 5 god-tier comics. Diversity garbage doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:07:30 2016 No.8598016 File: 294 KB, 1024x733, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8598001 From Hell Hellblazer Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron Sandman The Bus

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:16:58 2016 No.8598042 >>8598016 >From Hell >Hellblazer literal garbage the rest are gud tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:22:24 2016 No.8598058 is Persepolis worth it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:26:32 2016 No.8598067 >>8593223 .>sure >isnt >is ... ways >ppl >( i >dont >ur >Bioshock Infinite for example ... super amazing 0/10 is beyond generous.

Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:29:14 2016 No.8598073

>>8593199
>>8593123

Look man, first get your references straight. This isn't "is Alan Moore as good as G. R. R. Martin?" this is "is Alan Moore as good as motherfucking Dostoevsky and Homer?" THOSE are the kinds of people you're comparing him to when you compare him to the best authors. And I'm sorry but when you compare "Watchmen" to "Notes from the Underground" then Moore looks like a fucking joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:39:58 2016 No.8598106 >>8598042 Those are literally the best two listed though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:46:38 2016 No.8598124 >>8598106 Maybe if you are a disgusting pleb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 16:53:21 2016 No.8598143 >>8598058 I enjoyed it but It's nothing fantastic. Great art style though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 17:02:10 2016 No.8598162 >>8598124 Can you give an intelligent, or at least coherent, explanation as to why you dislike them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 18:17:22 2016 No.8598371 File: 112 KB, 500x667, O8SgINA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm a little disappointed that nobody has mentioned Cowboy Henk yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 18:19:10 2016 No.8598374 Oh fuck right off. SAGE.

Anonymous Sat Oct 8 18:21:07 2016 No.8598379

>>8593045
>Comics are such an under-appreciated art form the fact that most of those that do appreciate them don't even see them as an art form is just sad.
The same can be said for all mediums. Many people don't apply critical thinking to what they're partaking in, usually because they don't want to and enjoy them for different reasons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 18:22:26 2016 No.8598381 >>8592939 Lsd dream simulator

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 18:37:45 2016 No.8598417 >>8593705 Eat rat poison and tell me it's not a steak ya fuckn weapon

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 18:37:46 2016 No.8598418 Early Marvel, Swamp Thing and Hellboy. >>8591279 Bullshit, it's simply another form of story telling. Same argument cab be used against film and would sound even more ignorant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 19:10:13 2016 No.8598473 >>8598374 Being this mad, ever Grow up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 19:41:09 2016 No.8598595 File: 74 KB, 600x555, unsolicited.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8598418 >Early Marvel I'm glad you put the 'early' qualifier there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 19:43:08 2016 No.8598604 >>8598106 They are literally not, >>8598016 From Hell is literally the best and Hellblazer is literally the worst.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 19:50:47 2016 No.8598626 >>8598595 That comic was canceled soon after if I remember.

Anonymous Sat Oct 8 19:51:56 2016 No.8598634

>>8591530
>even though 95% of /co/ users probably don't know who Chris Ware is

i've brought it up in threads like this before, but seriously, wtf made this happen? I have threads saved from there from at least 2010 that mention at least fucking gaiman and I picked up The Boys after a thread bitching about Ennis' bitching about superheroes.

Are all these people just busy with grad school now? I...I have no one to talk to about nice things...;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 19:54:21 2016 No.8598647 >>8591245 >Why does /lit/ hate comics so much? i don't know

Anonymous Sat Oct 8 19:55:58 2016 No.8598653

>>8598634
>at least fucking gaiman and
>Ennis
Gaiman and Ennis? I'm not saying they're bad (at comics), but if Gaiman and Ennis are your criteria for a cultured comic book community, you're as clueless as they are. And they still talk about those two. Probably.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 20:05:59 2016 No.8598681 >>8598634 >wtf made this happen? Same thing thats happening here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 20:14:22 2016 No.8598701 >>8591245 They didn't qualify for the fucking babby cup. Who would associate with a board like that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 20:37:19 2016 No.8598749 >>8598653 not saying that at all, just that /co/ is at a point now when they don't even know who those are

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 21:11:20 2016 No.8598844 File: 132 KB, 659x335, 1165616172489.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8598016 >The Bus MY man. I'm re-reading Berserk while reading Gormenghast. IS pic related /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 22:16:25 2016 No.8599009 >>8597986 Brian K. Vaughan is such an autistic and cliched writer that if I were Fiona Staples, I'd be at least a little upset to have my art associated with him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 22:34:41 2016 No.8599059 >>8599009 Say what you will about his writing, but the dragon sucking his own dick isn't a cliché (or wasn't) (yet)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 8 22:37:40 2016 No.8599066 >>8592939 Kairo and Antichamber are awe-inspiring

Anonymous Sun Oct 9 00:03:43 2016 No.8599239

>>8592939
Nier.

Have you ever read Jack Vance's 'Tales of the Dying Earth?' Because that's exactly what Nier felt like to me. Only beautiful prose is replaced all the elements that make a game, and in my opinion each one is executed masterfully.

It feels fantastic to handle on top of looking and sounding amazing and what's more is that all of these separate elements come together to support the main story, which is surprisingly thoughtful and moving.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 9 00:26:34 2016 No.8599269 >>8597986 TF, I read saga.

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