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Who /alcoholic/ here?

>> No.8584737

>>8584733
sage and report

>> No.8584738

Alcohol is the only time I feel like I'm not bracing to tolerate how much I hate life.

>> No.8584739

>>8584737
Why?

>> No.8584741

Me, though I've been sober for about 5 months. I'm getting out of rehab in a few days, going to meetings and all that shit.

>> No.8584751

>>8584739
You are on the literature board. Enjoy your ban

>> No.8584758

>>8584751
Alcoholism is a pretty big theme in lit, tons of writers were alcoholics. w/e though, fuck you too, queer.

>> No.8584763

>>8584751
Well, it is kinda /lit/-realted, since a lot of writers drink to get over their wrting blockade. maybe i should have mentioned that.

besides that i was just interested, who on this board considers himself as an alcoholic, so my question is realted to this specific board.

Also the mods are asleep.

>> No.8584772

Nope, I tried to become one though, just wouldn't take.
Guess I'm too macho for that.

>> No.8584785

>>8584758
>>8584763
Who in love here?
Who gay here?
Who poor here?
Who lonely here?
Who sad here?
Who music here?

>> No.8584790

>>8584763
I wrote several books while an alcoholic. I really can't say the alcohol helped....if anything it just slowed down my production at lot.

I don't think it helped with blocks, or thinking up ideas either. Every now and then I'd think up a great idea while drunk, but I'd probably think of the same thing if I was sober too. And you focus on the one great Idea you had while drunk, saying that alcohol obviously works, but you forget the 1000 other really terrible, incoherent ideas you had.

I'm writing a book now that I'm sober, and I'm having trouble with blocks and stuff. But I wanted to write a book that was completely different from what I usually do, kind of new territory, where I don't have everything planned out, so it's natural I'm having trouble.

>> No.8584808

Recently resolved to stop drinking alone


Or cut down anyway

>> No.8584819

>>8584808
how much are you hammering?

>> No.8584821

>>8584819
Lately 3-4 nights alone and then maybe an additional 1-2 nights I'll have drinks with friends

>> No.8584822

>>8584790
What kind of books?

>> No.8584828

>>8584822
Dark Comedy

>> No.8584830

If you're not drinking at least a fifth of liquor a day you're not an alcoholic, you just drink.

Is there a point to this over obsession with "alcoholism"? Plenty of well recognized individuals drank regularly and heavily; Hemmingway, Goethe, whatever. And plenty more have drank infrequently and lived much mediocre lives. Diagnosing yourself and others as alcoholics so haphazardly just reenforces the neuroticism wrecking most mindsets.

>> No.8584832

>>8584733
>>8584738
>>8584741
>>8584758
>>8584772
>>8584790
>>8584808
>>8584821

Do you guys also hate women?

>> No.8584833

>>8584733
licor taste like piss (yeah, i try piss too shup ut -_-')

>> No.8584838

>>8584733
I'm a foodie

>> No.8584839

>>8584821

Yeah...that's definitely serious drinking. Might want to get help. Or not and just ride it out....whatever.

>> No.8584842

>>8584832
nah, we love em, but we can´t get em, thats why we drink

>> No.8584843
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>>8584733
I've drunk alcohol before, many times actually, mostly when I've been alone. It's increasingly become a part of my life, until now, when I rely on it to cope with myself everyday. This has interrupted my regular reading of literature, my development as a person, and has negatively impacted other areas of my life.

Would you like to hear more?

>> No.8584846

>>8584830
>If you're not drinking at least a fifth of liquor a day you're not an alcoholic, you just drink.

Just to give you an idea, the last bender I had. I drank two fifths, nine bottles of sake, and a bottle of pain pills in about 2 days.

Not that you need to drink that much to be an alcoholic. If you think alcohol is having an adverse affect on your life...you're an alcoholic, get it under control. Or don't....doesn't really matter me, it's all up to the individual.

>Is there a point to this over obsession with "alcoholism"? Plenty of well recognized individuals drank regularly and heavily

I dunno, I guess it has something to do with authors having creative minds that tend to roam all over the place, and alcohol helps that. Alcohol works real well to shut down a brain that won't stop fucking talking too, that's one thing I learned.

>> No.8584848

>>8584832
?

>>8584839
I've only been at it for a few weeks now, as of this cycle anyway. I drank pretty heavily for a while, cut down drastically, and only recently have begun approaching my former levels. Now I want to cut down again.

>> No.8584849

>>8584832
Not me...I love women. I'm terrible with them....the only thing I'm good at is in the sack, but I'm real bad at landing women...and keeping them...just screwing I'm good at basically. Not ill will to them though, I wouldn't stick with me if I wasn't forced to.

>> No.8584852

>>8584733
I've been going to AA meetings seriously for almost a year now. I've never gotten more than 90 days, and the past three months I can barely get a week.

People there are like the opposite of 4chan, all they want is for you to be happy.

My sponsor is a classics professor at a nearby college and is /lit/ as fuck.

I'm exercising and reading about twice as much and actually writing and meditating too, despite the recent setbacks.

>> No.8584853

>>8584848
If you're in college, most everyone would be considered and alcoholic at that age, but most people move on from it. I was pretty bad in college because I would go to class drunk all the time, do assignments while drunk and have to explain them when I was sober, all kinds of weird shit.

>> No.8584854

Former alcoholic reporting in :-) used to drink daily when I was a teenager now I just do it socially

>> No.8584865

>>8584846
I was going through a bit over a fifth a week for about six months. I stopped smoking pot a few months ago and drinking filled its place, sorta. Life is terrible currently, but alcohol isn't making it less terrible, so I think I'm done with it for a while. I've been sober for two weeks now. It sucks, but it's better than spiraling further down into alcoholism.

>> No.8584872

>tfw turning 21 in a week and I have literally no friends

>> No.8584874

>>8584853
Few years out of college. I don't actually consider myself an alcoholic in any sense; way I see it, if I can manage to cut back as easily as I've been able to, I can't be a true alkie. But I think it's something I have the potential for. Just have to show prudence. I like to drink, I just can't let it overcome me.

>> No.8584879

>>8584874
>if I can manage to cut back as easily as I've been able to, I can't be a true alkie

Well alcoholics can cut back dude. Hell I was sober for 6 months at one point when I was drinking. The issue isn't so much that you can't cut back, or even quit for a while, but you keep picking up, and it keeps getting progressively worse.

>> No.8584896

>>8584879
I don't think I want to eradicate alcohol from my life. I just want to enjoy it responsibly, and I think I'm capable. I guess only time will tell.

>> No.8584905

>>8584896
well I thought exactly the same thing at one point, and i was definitely a drunk. It's one of those things, though, that nobody can tell you if you're one or not. You sort of have to find out by yourself, the hard way.

>> No.8584931

I drink around 3 bottles of wine or 250-300ml of alcohol a night. (equivalent of a 26 of liquor or about 15 bottles of beer)

Alcohol as a variable in my life has had very little impact. It pales next to the intensity of the seemingly arbitrary fluctuations in disposition I go through.

When I`m good, nobody minds my drinking, except being worried for my health. When I`m bad I am a violent wretched excuse for a person when I drink.

>> No.8584944

>>8584931

Regular alcohol use can cause pretty drastic mood swings like that.

It also causes depression. I thought I was a lifelong chronically depressed person, when I finally quite the booze I was amazed to find that I was no longer depressed anymore.

I'd quite for a week or two and still be depressed and think that's just how I was, not realizing alcohol effects can last for months, especially if you're drinking all the time. Took like 2 months for the alcohol depression to wear off.

>> No.8584958

Normal garden variety heavy drinker. I've had periods of drinking 30 beers a day to the point that when I stopped I had bizarre withdrawal symptoms, I'll drink six beers a night for weeks, I'll drink 12-15 beers a night for weeks, I'll drink no beers a night for weeks. The older I've gotten the less sober time I've had though. Nowadays if I drink at all even six beers my hands shake in the morning after.

>> No.8584964

I used to drink more but physically can't handle it anymore. Like I just don't want that much alcohol.

>> No.8584967

>tfw native American

I don't fuck with your fire water kemosabe

>> No.8584969

I'm a real traveller and an alcoholic. When I drink is the only time that I feel like I'm free, that I feel like my thoughts are ordered, that I'm happy. Most of the people on this board are gap yah australians who chug beer in Purple Haze Party Youth Hostel (tm). I have a problem. I have sex with prostitutes in France, where I'm not from. I get so drunk alone that I become the guy who reeks of booze in the streets and gets genuinely weird after 5 or 6 drinks. I don't have a job. I haven't had a clean wipe since I was 20 years old.

>> No.8584988

>>8584969

If you get "genuinely weird" after a mere 5 or 6 drinks you're not much of a drinker, friendo.

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>>8584988
He gets genuinely weird after 5 drinks
He also gets genuinely weird after no drinks
He is just a genuinely weird guy

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8585048

>>8584830

What's the difference between a functional alcoholic and someone who just drinks heavily? I'm one or the other, depending on the the definition. I drink a decent amount (probably more than is medically recognized as healthy), but it doesn't interfere directly in a negative way with the rest of my life.

>> No.8585052

>>8584733
Most people do something to excess, but alcohol feels insidious, something that can kill you when you decide to stop.

I wonder if alcoholism is better or worse than any other given thing which people do to excess: smoking, fatty foods, internet, pornography, exercise, gambling, work, sex, idolatry. The tendency is to replace alcohol with another excessive preoccupation.

So is the problem alcohol or the addictive personality?

>> No.8585089

>>8585048
It's really up to you to know. For one, most addiction actually does affect a lot of things in an addict's life negatively, but the addict often doesn't realize it.

There's a lot of bullshit that goes into addiction, and addicts are great at lying at themselves. So who know? You could be an alcoholic who's ruining his life, but is in denial. Or you could just be a guy who drinks too much. The onus is on you to figure it the fuck out.