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Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:23:06 2016 No.8553497 [Reply] [Original]

http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/12/study-are-music-loving-teens-more-likely-to-be-depressed/

People who read books are significantly less likely to be depressed than average. Reading is not associated with the depressed loner or the misunderstood genius, but with the contrarian narcissist who delights in intellectually looming over his peers by weight of allusion. This is particularly true of purists of "literary fiction", who are without reservation the most hollow, puffed up jackasses to consume mainstream media.

There is nothing more empty and pathetic than attempting to live a literary life. I come here only to sneer at people who romanticize their alcoholism or posture over rediscovering an enlightened version of religion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:24:31 2016 No.8553502 File: 2.01 MB, 2408x2408, 87f.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8553497 Right there with ya.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:27:58 2016 No.8553513 This hits the hammer right on the head. Exactly why /lit/ is the worst board on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:34:14 2016 No.8553532 >>8553513 >worst Silly pissant.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:37:54 2016 No.8553545

>>8553532
This misses the head of the hammer by some margin. /lit/ is the worst because it, a deluded clown, thinks itself the best.

All 4chan is garbage, and the most repulsive of it is that which fails to realize this. By this measure, /lit/ is worst, and /a/ second worst.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:41:29 2016 No.8553554

>>8553545
But /a/ is vastly more aware of it shitness than /pol/ or /mu/. They're annoying and most of them have shit taste, but the majority acknowledge it and just want to be left alone to shitpost in peace.
In fact in regards of how self deluded a board is I would say /pol/ and /lit/ are at the top of the tier list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:41:32 2016 No.8553555 lel, probably they listen to music bc they're depressed, it's hard to do such a complex activity as reading a lot when you're depressed

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:57:38 2016 No.8553597 >>8553554 /mu/ doesn't believe it's a good board for discussion, even if it's elitist and contrarian. /pol/ is two thirded by people who think it's a great, culturally important board, while the other third recognizes that it's trash.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:59:37 2016 No.8553608

>>8553554
Drop this copypasta there and get back to me on how many people agree:

>we're all little girls right gaies :3
>purest form of love
>but that's forbidden love
>semen demon
>what are you, some kind of faggot?
>edgy fujoshit
>ha ha I bet u havent even watched 20 shows, Naruto/SnK/KlK/whatever fag
>boku no pico
>I want to fuck X
>hey, X is my waifu
>mah nigga
>shit taste detected
>why is she so perfect
>X best girl
>X a shit
>X is for ______
>what do X's feet smell like??
>i want to hold hands with X
>b-b-b-but anon, that's l-l-lewd
>h-h-hesitant typing
>i want to abuse spoiler text
>you /v/ermin scum are ruining my perfect board, fuck off before I email Moot
I know you love to call the people you disagree with outsiders, but the problem with /a/ is you. Every memetic posting style /a/ has developed is unfunny and obnoxious. You can find better discussion in youtube comments, and the majority of /a/ is best girl flame wars and fawning over softcore porn. You assume your board is a paradise and redirect anybody who doesn't fit in to /v/. You belong to both the dumbest and most pretentious board on this site. You believe you're protecting something valuable when you're only fitting into delusional groupthink. The project of your life is a glitzy casino made of recycled water bottles, a treasured nothing. You will believe you've won an argument when I stop responding. You are an idiot and belong in the prison you built out of strangers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:19:20 2016 No.8553679 What if my peers also like to read

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:20:40 2016 No.8553687 >>8553597 /pol/ has had a non-insubstantial impact on this current election cycle so it does have some degree of importance.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:21:30 2016 No.8553690

>>8553555
Obviously. This is why, as reading becomes more niche, people who read and attempt to write novels will be less lethargic and depressed. In the future, those sorts of characters will be merely creative, and existential loneliness or depression, as they figure in novels to come, will be experienced only as a nifty pair of sunglasses, leaking in affectation, removed even farther from sincerity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:21:46 2016 No.8553692 /tv/ is easily the worst board for obvious reasons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:25:40 2016 No.8553706 /lit/ is actually a great board btw since it got a lot of people to read great books when they wouldn't have otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:30:41 2016 No.8553718 If my peers don't want to be loomed over maybe they should get on my level.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:34:22 2016 No.8553732 >>8553679 If you're in it for something to talk about with your friends, that's perfectly admirable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:48:37 2016 No.8553769 >>8553692 >she doesn't like interracial porn and white humiliation threads

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:52:16 2016 No.8553782 >>8553706 reading is for kikes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:55:30 2016 No.8553797 >>8553497 whod have thought, 'music listeners' who were in middle school and high school when "emo" music was popular are more likely to be depressed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:57:17 2016 No.8553802 >>8553797 Are you talking shit about emo music?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:05:53 2016 No.8553818 People who listen to real music, as opposed to whatever the teens this article talks about listen to, aren't depressed, but are the other thing OP describes, IE superior.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:07:39 2016 No.8553823 Anyone here remember the kid who committed suicide because someone stole his ipod? This shit checks out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:09:25 2016 No.8553829 >>8553818 Agreed. Way too many idiots listen to shit like Kanye when they should listen to real music like The Beatles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:10:27 2016 No.8553833 >>8553829 I was actually talking about Intelligent Dance Music, such as Aphex Twin and Autechre, or anything else published by Warp Records.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:11:14 2016 No.8553836 >>8553823 >Anyone here remember the kid who became an hero because someone stole his ipod? if you're gonna talk about ancient history at least do it right

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:12:53 2016 No.8553843 www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GkVhgIeGJQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:13:42 2016 No.8553845 >>8553843 The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:16:14 2016 No.8553852 >>8553845 I would say I'm sorry if I thought that it would change your mind...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:08:13 2016 No.8553968 >>8553833 Why are IDM and classical listeners so pompous and condescending?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:16:21 2016 No.8553988 >>8553968 they're trying to hide the fact they don't know anything about music

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:57:06 2016 No.8554167 >>8553968 For classical listeners it's because it's completely justified. For anyone who listens to any genre of popular music (such as IDM) it's because they're retards. >>8553988 You wish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:06:39 2016 No.8554194 >>8554167 i bet you don't even play

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:20:23 2016 No.8554247

>>8554194
You would bet that, but it doesn't even matter. Literally the only thing you need to know about classical music in order to appreciate it more or less fully is how form works, especially sonata form. You don't need to know the basics of chord progression, voice leading, modulation, motivic development, etc, because all of that is understood instinctively. You don't even need to know the difference between an oboe and a clarinet: you can still understand and appreciate the sounds they make. Whether or not you know all of that stuff, you can listen to classical music and quite easily see why it's objectively better than all genres of popular music. People are only plebs because they choose to be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:29:41 2016 No.8554286 >>8554247 you don't choose to be patrician by listening to 'classical music' and sitting there thinking you have it all figured out. pop music has form

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:35:35 2016 No.8554305

>>8554286
Actually yeah that kind of is how it works. And "having form" doesn't make something good or worth listening to. Literally everything has form. What makes music interesting is what it does within and to form, and pop music almost never does anything new or interesting with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:37:46 2016 No.8554310 >>8553782 yea but so is being smart and we want that too

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:53:00 2016 No.8554342 >>8554305 yeah true there was absolutely no derivative classical music produced over several centuries you're only fooling yourself, not me

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:05:34 2016 No.8554371
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>>8554342
I'm talking about the masterpieces of classical music, Anonymous. The ones that are remembered specifically for their brilliance and originality. Yes, there are literally thousands of no-name composers who've been completely forgotten over the centuries because their music was shit. They don't matter. There is still a lifetime's work of classical music to listen to and re-listen to, and it would be best for you if you didn't waste your life on pop crap.

tehn Mon Sep 26 21:35:16 2016 No.8554408
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>>8554371
Anonymous, too obvious

All of those albums and compilations are just from the 20th and 21st centuries

And neither of those collections add up to anywhere near 799 hours

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:41:08 2016 No.8554420 >>8554286 And pulp comics have literary virtue. >>8554408 The purpose of it is to show the modern presence of art music. Frankly it's all hot garbage but that is beside the point.

>>	tehn Mon Sep 26 21:50:49 2016 No.8554432 >>8554420 Think ya fell for your own shitpost, man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:52:32 2016 No.8554527 >>8553833 So instrumental /mu/core? You forgot GSYBE

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:10:37 2016 No.8554555 >>8553797 >emo Why do people use that word as a catch-all term for depressing music in general? On /lit/ of all places, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:13:09 2016 No.8554563 You guys sure love having studies tell you how to live. Why not go to a fortune teller? Lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:13:51 2016 No.8554566 >>8554527 They're not IDM/Warp Records so I don't listen tot hem.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:18:21 2016 No.8554573

>>8554371
so you don't even listen to classical music, you listen to memes and you think your survey listening of meme music gives you any insight into actual classical music. when you hear a piece of music can you even name what century its from just by the sound?

>The ones that are remembered specifically for their brilliance and originality.

why be so intellectually dishonest as to compare the 'masterpieces' compiled over centuries to some apparent stagnation of pop music? do you think pop music sounds the same between the 1910s, 1930s, 1950s, 1970s, 1990s, 2010s? if so then you're actually deaf

>if you didn't waste your life on pop crap.

who says i do? i know you think you have to pick a side but i actually don't. maybe i listen to jazz? in any case you don't know what you're talking about or how to approach music as a cultural product. you evidently just care about convincing yourself that you're smart

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:18:58 2016 No.8554576 >>8554167 >because it's completely justified pretty much this

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:19:22 2016 No.8554578 >>8554420 i don't know what 'literary virtue' means

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:20:53 2016 No.8554584 >>8554576 to dilettantes and pseuds it is justified

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:26:59 2016 No.8554594 >>8553818 >real music

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:29:29 2016 No.8554602

>>8554573
>so you don't even listen to classical music, you listen to memes and you think your survey listening of meme music gives you any insight into actual classical music.
They're "memes" for a reason, Anon.

>when you hear a piece of music can you even name what century its from just by the sound?
Sure.

>why be so intellectually dishonest as to compare the 'masterpieces' compiled over centuries to some apparent stagnation of pop music?
What's intellectually dishonest about that?

>do you think pop music sounds the same between the 1910s, 1930s, 1950s, 1970s, 1990s, 2010s?
Obviously different kinds of trash become fashionable at different points in history, but that doesn't make any of it interesting or innovative. Everything interesting that pop music has done had already been done by classical, and better.

>in any case you don't know what you're talking about or how to approach music as a cultural product.
Yes I do. The way to approach it is to enjoy it if it's good, and not to listen to it if it's bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:31:03 2016 No.8554603 >>8554555 do u see the quotation marks

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:46:59 2016 No.8554635

>>8554573
>do you think pop music sounds the same between the 1910s, 1930s, 1950s, 1970s, 1990s, 2010s? if so then you're actually deaf
It all does, you are the one who is deaf; and totally ignorant of theory.
>>8554578
Virtue in the Greek sense; as in it functions well as literature and is open for interpretation, dialogue, et cetera. Pulp comics do not have this, of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:48:38 2016 No.8554640 >>8554594 Yes, we've covered this, and we've determined that Real Music is Intelligent Dance Music. If you ever listen to anything other than Aphex Twin, then you've made the wrong life choices, my friend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:53:05 2016 No.8554646 >>8553497 my two passions in life are books and music, and I'm quite gloomy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:53:55 2016 No.8554648 >>8554635 There's some variety in popular music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:54:23 2016 No.8554649 >>8554167 >IDM >popular music >less popular than classical music >popular music

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:56:00 2016 No.8554651

>>8554602
>They're "memes" for a reason

popular music is popular for a reason. you can't tell if something is interesting or innovative just by listening to it in isolation. and something that is interesting or innovative isn't necessarily good. and something that uses interesting or innovative techniques and becomes a 'meme' for it isn't necessarily the first to do so. this is what you miss on your survey course -- in-depth knowledge. and it shows, when you posture on the internet and call things 'good' or 'bad', you act defensive about your tastes rather than willing to share your knowledge and discuss something you are actually passionate about

you know what classical music does these days? it's played in stores to make the consumer feel sophisticated. it's used to make things seem more 'high class' than they are, even though the historical moment in which classical music was reserved for the high class has passed, so all you have is the image to associate with, rather than the knowledge with which the high class would have been acquainted

>What's intellectually dishonest about that?
not an equal comparison based on the length of time

>Everything interesting that pop music has done had already been done by classical, and better.
so pop music, as you admit, is not sonically much different to classical. and that the music itself isn't what makes it good or bad, but external factors

>Yes I do.
no you don't because you have less and less to say the more you post, and what you do say is so vague and unconvincing

>The way to approach it is to enjoy it if it's good, and not to listen to it if it's bad.
but never actually know why you think that way?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:58:29 2016 No.8554656

>>8554648
You only think this because you are blind.

Yeah, YA and children's books might be written about different things but they all have the same simple plot formula and the same basic prosestyle.
>>8554649
>I don't know the definition of popular music

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:58:37 2016 No.8554657 >>8554635 so if you heard a song from any point in the 20th century you would genuinely find it difficult placing it in a given decade? >functions well as literature ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:59:13 2016 No.8554658 >>8554656 >I don't know what the word popular means

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:00:26 2016 No.8554661 >>8554635 >It all does, you are the one who is deaf; and totally ignorant of theory yeah these two sound completly alike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2FRPA3Gf8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR7_TbMIVnA You totally debunked pop music!

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:02:41 2016 No.8554666

>>8554657
>superficial differences have any meaning

>functions well as literature
I defined this immediately afterwards.
>>8554658
It doesn't mean popular in that sense, it means popular in the same way communism is a popular government.

As in, it deals with common people. Popular music is music aimed at common people rather than given no such limitations.
>>8554661
>sound
Sound is more than superficial frequencies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:03:05 2016 No.8554667 >>8554651 >but never actually know why you think that way? a meme pic told him, duh

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:07:01 2016 No.8554677

>>8554666
now what do you mean by 'meaning'? you're just saying nonsense in an effort to seem like you know what you're talking about. sophisticated consumer, surely you have something more to add?

>I defined this immediately afterwards.

no you make a distinction between something functioning as literature and something open for interpretation, etc. all that is open for interpretation is not literature, and pulp comics are open for interpretation.

>>	tehn Tue Sep 27 00:07:05 2016 No.8554678 File: 42 KB, 562x437, 1472368940240.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8554666 >Sound is more than superficial frequencies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:09:49 2016 No.8554682 >>8554678 Sound in music, you pseud.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:10:11 2016 No.8554684

>>8554666
>popular music is music aimed at common people rather than given no such limitations
https://youtu.be/d2iSMvXL1ho

Out of the totality of music you would consider popular music, only a thin slice could be said to aim at the largest possible audiences. All you did was describe music that is put together for commercial profit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:10:41 2016 No.8554685 >>8554677 leave him alone, he is exactly the type of faggot the OP was describing

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:12:38 2016 No.8554689 >>8554684 Common does not mean largest. Learn to read, please. >>8554685 No, I'm somebody not screaming like a chimp because jargon they don't understand is being used.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:14:56 2016 No.8554695 >>8554682 >sound in music is different than sound in everything else yeah i agree, sound in music is made of smart boy points, (pro tip: music that schopenhauer and meme pics say is better have more smart boy points) you many did you got today, bro?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:15:48 2016 No.8554698 >>8554695 Shitposting does not make you right.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:15:55 2016 No.8554699

>>8554689
Common, I took to mean average. What is commonly called pop music is directed at the most average theoretical person possible as to have the greatest quantity of sales. Common people, I now am seeming to realize, to you means someone who doesn't listen to classical music.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:17:30 2016 No.8554704

>>8554689
do you actually have anything to contribute to the conversation aside from 'NO'? you've been posting on average one sentence per reply, and everyone has to guess what you're actually trying to say since you won't give your argument any definition. what is the purpose of engaging in discussion if you're so hesitant to make a point? are you waiting for the right time to get your thoughts in order? are you waiting for others to make the first mistake in trying to decipher your nonsense posts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:18:41 2016 No.8554706 >>8554698 pseud-posting does not make you right either.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:19:09 2016 No.8554710

>>8554651
>popular music is popular for a reason.
Yeah, a stupid one.

>you can't tell if something is interesting or innovative just by listening to it in isolation.
Of course, you must have extensive knowledge of the entire history of music, which is something those who have compiled the musical canon possess.

>and something that is interesting or innovative isn't necessarily good.
They're necessary conditions for being good.

>and something that uses interesting or innovative techniques and becomes a 'meme' for it isn't necessarily the first to do so.
Very rarely do things become "memes" simply for being the first to use a technique.

>this is what you miss on your survey course -- in-depth knowledge.
I know a little bit of theory and musical history, but that's not entirely necessary to appreciate the music, as I've explained.

>and it shows, when you posture on the internet and call things 'good' or 'bad', you act defensive about your tastes rather than willing to share your knowledge and discuss something you are actually passionate about
I don't think I'm being particularly defensive. If anything, I'm being offensive.

>you know what classical music does these days? it's played in stores to make the consumer feel sophisticated. it's used to make things seem more 'high class' than they are, even though the historical moment in which classical music was reserved for the high class has passed, so all you have is the image to associate with, rather than the knowledge with which the high class would have been acquainted
I don't really care, and I'm not associating with an image, or anything like that. I'm just listening to great music.

>not an equal comparison based on the length of time
Popular music has always existed.

>so pop music, as you admit, is not sonically much different to classical.
Well, there are obvious timbrel, formal, and stylistic differences for the most part, but what really matters, classical music has always excelled at.

>and that the music itself isn't what makes it good or bad, but external factors
I never said that.

>no you don't because you have less and less to say the more you post, and what you do say is so vague and unconvincing
I don't need to get into specifics to make my points.

>but never actually know why you think that way?
I know why I think that way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:19:22 2016 No.8554711 >>8554698 for someone who believes this is true you're sure shitposting a lot >UHHHHHHHH NO YOU FUCKING IDIOT THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:20:13 2016 No.8554717 >>8554699 Common means ignorant or otherwise unconcerned with the traditions and breaking-ofs in art or folk music. >>8554704 I've given plenty of definition and you have a library at your fingertips.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:23:56 2016 No.8554720
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Dropping trip before it becomes a mess, was a throwaway anyway

>>8554682
That doesn't mean anything

>>8554689
>jargon
Saying "theory" a bunch isn't jargon. Try defining it. You don't even know what that it implies, let alone means.
>>8554717
No you haven't. And your definitions for words integral to your five-word arguments clearly don't match up with reality, seeing that you think sound is more than frequencies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:25:16 2016 No.8554724 >>8554720 Sound is a kind of conscious experience, or quale.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:28:51 2016 No.8554736 >>8554724 Sound is vibrations through a medium.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:29:29 2016 No.8554741 Pelase no one bring up Bourdieu's Distinction int his discussion again, btw. His work is irrelevant in this context

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:31:29 2016 No.8554746 >>8554710 you're saying nothing and responding to the argument line-by-line (and not even the main points), you're obviously on the defensive. >good things are good, bad things are bad thanks for your amazing insight into music

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:32:45 2016 No.8554749 >>8554717 >I've given plenty of definition and you have a library at your fingertips. for anyone who can read your mind yes your argument has been sufficient. you may leave the thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:33:13 2016 No.8554750 >>8554746 I responded to every sentence you wrote.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:34:37 2016 No.8554753 >>8554749 I can read Anon's mind, and Anon's argument has been perfectly good.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:35:38 2016 No.8554756

>>8554750
no you didn't and that doesn't change the point that arguing line-by-line shows you're on the defensive. it's up to me to shape the argument and you to respond, since you don't know how to logically link thoughts together in a coherent manner

but no i agree with you, classical music is good because it's good. you don't need to get any more specific than that

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:36:19 2016 No.8554759 >>8554756 Thank you for agreeing with me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:39:30 2016 No.8554764 File: 269 KB, 500x708, 1474457339545.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8554759 Over the line

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 08:40:17 2016 No.8555479 >>8554635 Who defined literary virtue?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 09:53:39 2016 No.8555621 >>8555479 Pseudo-Longinus

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 10:08:45 2016 No.8555643 Classical music is still the only kind of music worth listening to, fellas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 10:15:59 2016 No.8555662 >>8553545 What are some good literature discussion boards?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 10:18:39 2016 No.8555665 >>8555662 LOL

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 11:03:26 2016 No.8555753

>>8554720
>that doesn't mean anything
Yes it does.
>Saying "theory" a bunch isn't jargon.
The trichotomy where popular music is one of its branches is jargon to you, since you fail to understand it after multiple explanations.

It's called popular since 'folk' is already taken, and because it is more modern and thereby follows the modern standard of being more global. Say, in the 60s, there were Beatles knockoffs all over the globe. That could not happen with folk music.
>don't match up with reality
Very poor argument; 'i define reality becuz i sed so'
>>8554736
You tell yourself that, positivist.
>>8555479
Those that wrote the Western canon.

Regardless of how 'out-there' or nihilistic you try to be, you will be writing according to the canon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 13:27:07 2016 No.8556273 >>8555753 How can assume the standards of Homer? A criterion such as "What would Melville find valuable" is open to many interpretation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 13:32:27 2016 No.8556297 >>8553968 cuz its got like math n stuff n i can feel dope while i also excercize my brain

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 13:39:35 2016 No.8556322 >>8554698 >sound is more than superficial frequencies >I MEAN SOUND IS WHAT I DEFINE IT TO MEAN SUCH THAT BEACH BOYS AND MILEY CYRUS "SOUND" THE SAME >stop shitposting pseud confirmed most degenerate faggot 2016 kys

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 13:44:39 2016 No.8556336 Folk music is shit for stupid farmers btw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 13:47:01 2016 No.8556341 >>8556336 Also pop music that calls itself folk isn't actually folk but folk-inspired pop but I'm just pointing out the obvious

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:44:42 2016 No.8556507 [DELETED]

> For the study, the researchers surveyed 106 participants

They may as well have not conducted the study. I think the lack of depression among readers probably has a lot to do with just how many books are self help books. Well it would be attributed to that if there was a significant sample size and the study said the same thing. 0.2% percent of the time with 106 people? Hell thats like half of what i read, the other half being mostly non fiction. I dont really know why i come here as i barely read fiction but certain threads always seem to interest me. I should probably leave 4chan though because it seems to be full of people trying their hardest to make strangers genuinely suffer. You came here to prop up your self worth by trying to push others beneath you. Yoy wanted to make others sad and feel inferior. Maybe you should consider why it us youd want to do something like that

Also whos the contrarian narcissest trying to loom over others exactly? Maybe you should ask yourself why youre so smart, youre too smart to read?

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:49:29 2016 No.8556518

> For the study, the researchers surveyed 106 participants

They may as well have not conducted the study. 0.2% percent of the time with 106 people? Assuming a study large enough to be credible found the same thing Id think the lack of depression among readers probably has a lot to do with just how many books are self help books. Hell thats like half of what i read, the other half being mostly non fiction. I dont really know why i come here as i barely read fiction but certain threads always seem to interest me. I should probably leave 4chan though because it seems to be full of people trying their hardest to make strangers genuinely suffer. You came here to prop up your self worth by trying to push others beneath you. You wanted to make others sad and feel inferior. Maybe you should consider why it us youd want to do something like that

Also whos the contrarian narcissest trying to loom over others exactly? Maybe you should ask yourself why youre so smart, youre too smart to read?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:01:22 2016 No.8556546 >>8556336 Epic! Folk music of the 60s and 70s along with Vietnam helped songwriting reach its peak.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:28:50 2016 No.8556606 >>8556273 Are you really this dumb. >>8556322 Sound means something else in abstraction you idiot. >>8556546 Wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:37:49 2016 No.8556621 >>8556546 Actually the peak of songwriting was German/Austrian Romantic Lieder, such as those of Schubert, Schumann, Wolf, Mahler, and Strauss.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 17:14:48 2016 No.8556958

>>8556518
Gosh you're a cutie. I wish I could cuddle with you and tell dumb jokes. You're right about almost everything (would disagree about the self help book part but that's it). I'm as narcissistic as most people here, although I'm more self aware than some of them.

You're really wonderful though, one of the most likeable people I've replied to. I would love you in an instant.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 20:26:53 2016 No.8557578 What made this board get so much worse over the last two years?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 20:56:44 2016 No.8557687 >>8557578 Your presence.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:01:49 2016 No.8557705

>>8557578

Reddit, high school kids/stupid undergraduates. Average age here used to be like 24 when it started. It was slow as shit, good threads.

Now it's filled with faggots who treat reading like a sort of intellectual weight-lifting. "I need to read all these Penguin classics, then I'll be smart!"

It's sad. Nobody says anything worth reading. They'll make some oblique reference to something they may or may not have read, and definitely don't understand, and call you a faggot.

I hate the posters here. They're pathetic people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:54:04 2016 No.8557910 >>8557705 Post quality here used to be intimidatingly high. I think /r9k/ really fucked everything up. John Green bashing also invited a lot of undesirables.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:56:35 2016 No.8557919 >>8553497 But I hate myself and I read

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:59:35 2016 No.8557926 >tfw enlightened >mannerisms and cognition dont change whats this all for

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:05:20 2016 No.8557943 >>8555753 no one can tell what your point is

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:39:36 2016 No.8558061 >>8557910 Haha yeah remember when Deep&Edgy used to post here??

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:52:06 2016 No.8558110 Getting shamed by anime-watchers for reading is like getting shamed by shit-eaters for eating healthily.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 23:16:05 2016 No.8558202 >>8558110 Excuse me, the correct term is 'otaku'.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:49:21 2016 No.8559114 >>8558061 No, who was she?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:54:58 2016 No.8559131 >>8558061 i'm pretty sure he's outis now, and still into heidegger and zen

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 12:03:12 2016 No.8559768 >>8555662 There are no good discussion boards on the internet, period my dude. Most people are unable to handle anonymity and it usually just devolves into shitposting. Eternal September etc etc

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 12:30:55 2016 No.8559886 >>8553497 Well. It's not helping my depression.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 12:40:01 2016 No.8559911 >>8559768 I know one good one but it's bad now. The blog format is better for discussion anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:22:25 2016 No.8561085 Classical music is the only kidn of music worth listening to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 19:58:26 2016 No.8561557 File: 12 KB, 205x246, 1471330550620.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw to intelligent to listen to anything but classical music

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