Elfriede Jelinek

[Anonymous No.8530782]

What does /lit/ think?
I think she's the most 4chan of female authors, she has a femanon-aura.

She's the contemporary, female, more realistic and less edgelord Marquis de Sade.

[Anonymous No.8530788]

>>8530782
Let's just say I'm redpilled and hear won't waste my time on women.

Especially someone who writes about their disgusting sexuality

[Anonymous No.8530795]

>>8530782
You're obviosly the same person who started a thread about her just a month aago

[Anonymous No.8530799]

>>8530782
I have Micheal in my shelf. I haven't read it properly yet but my impression from reading random pages makes me look forward to it. And she does seem like a femanon.

[Anonymous No.8530801]

>>8530795
I have made a thread about her before but it was further back I believe Are you the anon who bought her books due to it? Did you enjoy them?

[Anonymous No.8530803]

>>8530782
Anyone else kinda want to see her BLACKED?

[Anonymous No.8530824]

>>8530788
this

[Anonymous No.8531050]

>>8530782
She's brutal and she totally changed what I thought about Austria in the contemporary era. I haven't read her for a while (mostly just after she won The Prize), but she's not someone I can (or want to) forget

[Anonymous No.8531057]

>>8530782
>translated GR
confirmed /lit/ chick

[Anonymous No.8531063]

>all these numales praising a women

[Anonymous No.8531074]

>>8531063
>a women
>>>>>>>>>>

[Anonymous No.8531089]

>more realistic and less edgelord Sade
So she lacks what makes his writing interesting, great.

SHE'S LIKE A MORE LUCID AND LESS EXPRESSIVE JOYCE

SHE'S LIKE A MORE HEAVY-HANDED AND LESS CRAZY BLAKE

SHE'S LIKE A MORE MINIMALISTIC AND LESS CYNICAL GADDIS

LOOK GUYS, WOMEN AUTHORS ARE GREAT!

[Anonymous No.8531095]

>>8531089
No, she succeeds where he fails.

[Anonymous No.8531133]

Is flannery oconner a worthwhile female writer? Is she the only one?

[Anonymous No.8531188]

>>8531133
she's a meme but I like Zadie Smith, as entertainment anyways

[Anonymous No.8531251]

>>8530782

The Piano Teacher was one of the few books I put down because it was too depressing. I just wanted the protagonist to hurry up and let somebody rape her so I could masturbate but all she did was kick strangers in the shins and cry.

[Anonymous No.8531260]

>>8531251
Male detected

[deaf chords; dead ends No.8531333]

>>8531260
you'd be surprised

[Anonymous No.8531597]

>>8531260
Sounds more like a femanon, actually.

[Anonymous No.8531999]

>>8530782
It's all a metaphor for evil Nazi youth, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.8532025]

>>8531063
Yeah, so the literature board is a bad place to try and redpill if you don't have a working grasp of spelling, grammar or syntax. You're just proving the rest of us right in thinking that shit is for mental infants.

[Anonymous No.8532036]

>>8531999
Which in turn is just a metaphor for the intrinsic sadistic nature of men

[Anonymous No.8532054]

>>8531133
Pretty much, yes

[Anonymous No.8532058]

>>8531133
Sappho

[Anonymous No.8532693]

>the difficulty in reading Elfriede Jelinek is that there is no sympathetic narrative voice for the reader to find respite in and identify with
>it's waking up from the the narcissism of reading

[Anonymous No.8532705]

>>8530782
what's her best work?
I've seen the Piano Teacher movie, is the book more extreme than that?

[Anonymous No.8532803]

She said Peter Handke deserved the Nobel Prize more than her and that she only won it because she's a female lol.

[Anonymous No.8532814]

>>8532803
source?

[Anonymous No.8532818]

>>8532803
Peter Handke is a crybaby who writes terrible navel-gazing pulp and threw a hissyfit when society didn't give him enough attention. Good riddance!

[Anonymous No.8533070]

>>8531063
Is saying "a women" instead of "a woman" some sort of meme now? My little /lit/ cant be this uneducated.

[Anonymous No.8533172]

>>8533070
all women are the same. the concept of an individual """""woman""""" doesn't deserve or require a word of its own.

[Anonymous No.8533218]

>30 posts
>only 2 people seem to have read her

/lit/ in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.8533221]

>>8533070
It's not a meme, it's just something that severely mentally retarded people do, like mixing up your and you're

[Anonymous No.8533520]

>>8532705
>is the book more extreme than that?
I haven't read it, but I've heard it's time times more.

[Anonymous No.8533568]

>>8533172

Christ. I'm a kissless virgin but this is just pure edge. Were you raised by a single mother?

[Anonymous No.8533576]

>>8533520
>time times more
2deep4me

[Anonymous No.8533585]

>>8533568
I'm redpilled, retard.

[Anonymous No.8533588]

There are two kinds of women
-the woman who loves sex and money
-the woman who loves money and sex

[Anonymous No.8533592]

>>8533585

[Anonymous No.8533601]

>>8533588
I prefer the latter. Sex is a chore.

[Anonymous No.8533606]

>>8533588
bring some creativity to your sexism or >>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.8533752]

All females are basically just hedonists.

[Anonymous No.8533759]

>>8533588
sex is like 5 or 10 (varies by person obviously, but closer to average) of motivating factors for most women

[Anonymous No.8534630]

bump

[Anonymous No.8535259]

>>8530782
> more realistic and less edgelord Marquis de Sade

But does she still write about the perverted stuff that de Sade wrote about?

[Anonymous No.8535283]

>>8535259
yes but more in a brutal reality of life for women/the cruelty of men/the world (no it's not all men=evil, plenty of awful fucked up women) and not the o isn't this fun way, from what I've read and heard

watch the piano teacher at least

[Anonymous No.8535306]

>>8535283
haneke is a hipster faggot

[Anonymous No.8535795]

>>8535306
Haneke is by far the best contemporary director. Fight me bitch

[Anonymous No.8535814]

>>8535795
He's the Tarantino of ''''''''''art'''''''''' film.

[Anonymous No.8535902]

>>8535306
>calling a 74 year old man a hipster

[Anonymous No.8536087]

>>8531260
>>8531260
>>8531333

Yes I'm a man. So are >90% of 4chan users in general. But almost all the erotica with good rapey bits is written by women. On literotica the "non-consent, reluctance" genre is quite popular, and it seems like women write most of it. They are also better at it on average, for example I instantly know when a story was authored by a man because the narrative will come to screeching halt in order for a minute description of a character's bra size, color, and style, not to mention the shape of her ass and an inventory of her clothing. So irritating. Aside from the founder himself, BDSM is dominated by female writers as well. Women seem to really go in for this kind of thing, for example on pornhub:

>Women also show a strong preference for sado-maschistic adult video viewing, with the terms 'rough sex' and 'bondage' both appearing in the top 16 search terms for women, but not for men
>A 1988 study by Pelletier and Herold found that over half of their female respondents had fantasies of forced sex

So therefore I don't feel bad about fapping to rapey stories in books considering that most women have done the exact same thing.

[Anonymous No.8536255]

>>8535795
not while Godard is still making movies

[Anonymous No.8536737]

a woman's life revolves around sex, but most of the sex that she has is mediocre

[Anonymous No.8536744]

>>8536087
women love submissive sex because they love their fantasy of dissolving their ego, because they spend their life being the most egotistic creatures on earth (sometimes even after their menopause)

[Anonymous No.8536752]

How do I get a pure qtpie like her

[Anonymous No.8536780]

>>8532803
wtf I love Elfriede now

[Anonymous No.8536814]

>>8532803
this is my biggest fear senpai

I'm gonna write under a male pseudonym for this reason

[Anonymous No.8536816]

>>8536814
Why not just initials?

[Anonymous No.8536820]

>>8536816
kinda pretentious t.b.h

[Anonymous No.8536828]

>>8536820
Connotationwise it seems more associated with fantasy authors, but I guess you meant that it's pretentious in and of itself.

[Anonymous No.8536888]

>>8536744

For some of them, sure. In a lot of the stories I read the man is obsessed with his captive, he devotes an inordinate amount of time alternately brutalizing her or caring for her, and she rarely has to compete with a harem of other girls. He specifically chose her to kidnap, rape, and enslave, he saw something special in her. In a way he's more slavishly devoted than any she's ever had sex with. Oh, and he's always handsome, urbane, and self possessed and if he has any weakness it's some neurosis or over attachment. I'm sure if I ever abducted any one of these heroines they would die of despair before I even had them stripped, bathed, and perfumed. The eunuch guards would be out of a job. Such is life I guess.

[Anonymous No.8536905]

for fuck sake, a woman is not ''redpilled'''''because she claims that she is praised only because she is a woman, that's like saying a man is based because he has two arms. stop making things easier for women.

[Anonymous No.8536906]

>>8536905
>''redpilled'''''
fail

[Anonymous No.8537124]

>>8536888
I read Bukowskis post office yesterday and masturbated to the scene where he rapes a crazy girl.

[Anonymous No.8537128]

>>8536888
>alternately brutalising or caring for her
This is my ultimate fantasy desu, having some girl locked up in my basement and one day beating her and spraying her with a hose pipe and the next bringing her hot meals and stroking her hair and telling her how beautiful she is.

[Anonymous No.8537233]

>>8537128
Why?

[Anonymous No.8537437]

>>8536888
I disagree with the ''finding something special in her''. I do not think that women want to be special. Women love to think that they are without ego, but OK they want only them to be without ego. Women love to be Jesus, in one word, but there must be only one Jesus while still dreaming that ''other people should become Jesus too''

the point is that women dream of finding a man as egotistical as them, but who at the same display and is pure devotion, because egotist crave devotion. Of course the devotion is towards a unique woman [which feeds the egotism of this woman]. The woman would like intimacy with a man, but in reality it always fail. [women find intimacy with their children]. THe intimacy that women seek with male adults is where the Women want to alleviate the suffering of the adult, and if the guy must hurt her in passing so that she can dissolve her self then so be it [plus ideally she gets physical pleasure so all is well since there is always sex sooner or later and the guy knows how to fuck her properly [for once in her life] without asking her what she wants beforehand]
Of course this male adult must be handsome and be good in bed and be rich [so that the woman is not bored in bed nor outside of bed]. THe only occasion where a woman let go of her sexuality is when she finds a cause wherein she can sacrifice herself.

[Anonymous No.8537440]

>>8537437


the problem of women is that indeed men are devoted [men do not even dream of being devoted], but they are not egotistical. Men need to be valued, and the best valuation comes always from a woman. THe very few men who do not need to be valued are narcissistic [=they do not care about other problems and pleasures, they do not judge other people], but not egotistical [=they do not care about avoiding pain and getting pleasure]. Women confuse this narcissism with their egotism and they always get disappointed that the man will not attend to her properly, while still being in aw before an expectational man, precisely because this guy is not like other men and being a narcissist, seen form a woman POV, is like being compassionate [like say rescuing somebody from a fire, but not asking for a thank you and leaving right after] . This confusion leads men to think that ''women love assholes'', precisely because for devoted men, being a narcissist is perceived as being egotistical.
Women do not need to be valued, and the devotion that they seek is not the same as men. The devotion that men seek is where they are better than most people, but not really the best, in order to leave room for personal improvement. Ideally, the best man is the most effective tool solving a big problem and ideally being thanked by good men for this.

Women do not care about improvement of themselves.
WOmen want improvement of whoever they find destitute and these persons should become as potent as women are [or as women think they are]. Of course, women do not really do anything to make other people potent and the few women who take action will always agree to have some fun on the side while doing it.
These women love the ''rich chad doctor who does not care about money, but still is super rich to provide materially for the woman'' so that the woman can justify being super rich.


Anyway, devotion for a man is achieved when the person valuing them is of course not in need to be valued by the man, unlike here >>8537128 where the man himself create the situation bringing valuation, since In reality, no women will be retarded enough to agree to be captive and feed the fantasy of man like this...
of course the man knows that this situation is totally contrived and sooner or later, he understands that he fucks up. It is like being acknowledged or praised by hacks. TO be admired by people you think are lower than you.

[Anonymous No.8537463]

She looks like a qt chubfu in that pic. In reality she's 700 years old and nasty as fuck. I was going to read her too.

[Anonymous No.8537490]

>>8537437
>>8537440
saved for cringe thread

[Anonymous No.8537867]

>>8531133

Yeah, she's great. Definitely not the only 'worthwhile' one though.

[Anonymous No.8537926]

Women love assholes because the drama that assholes create is the best cure about the boredom that women feel. For women, there is nothing more boring than to be fucked over and over by the same man, even if he is good at the beginning.

[Anonymous No.8537964]

Janet Frame is spectacular and she's a woman

[Anonymous No.8538005]

>>8537463
>/lit/ doesn't understand time and couldn't tell that picture was from 40+ years ago

>/lit/ has to ruin every thread with babbling on about their gross sexual fantasies that no one cares about or ever will care about

>/lit/ will die alone and never have a fulfilling or positive lasting relationship with another human being and will wonder why

[Anonymous No.8538014]

>>8536752
"Pure."

[Anonymous No.8538160]

>>8538005
Ya I forgot black and white photos don't exist anymore:/

[Anonymous No.8538274]

>>8538160
nothing to do with it being in black and white, only an idiot would think it was taken recently, everything about her look indicates otherwise

[Anonymous No.8538284]

>>8538274
That's nice lad. I'll be sure to enlarge the image and look at the cuffs next time. Oy vey.

[Anonymous No.8538536]

>>8531133
Patricia Highsmith is an inspiration to us all

[Anonymous No.8538653]

>>8538536
she might have hated women even more than /lit/ does (also other races, also jewish people)

[Anonymous No.8538704]

>>8537128

Me too desu. You always hurt the one you love. . .

>>8538005

I care about your sexual fantasies anon. Please share them with the group, we're all anonymous here.

[Anonymous No.8539266]

Reminder that guys like to delete their porn folder after their ''''''gf'''''''''' requests it

[Anonymous No.8539276]

>>8539266

moar

[Anonymous No.8539449]

>>8530782
never read anything she's written completely by herself but her gr translation is great

[Anonymous No.8539466]

>>8537437
>>8537440
You use brackets in place of parentheses, you incorrectly define words (still not sure what you think narcissism is), and the more you explain the less clear your message becomes. You also seem not to be a native English speaker.

Zizek?

[Anonymous No.8539573]

>>8537128
that's literally just an abusive relationship
or if negotiated, a fucked up s+m one

[Anonymous No.8540355]

what does this mean?

[Anonymous No.8540383]

>>8533568
this is also a board where I implied that the earth only has 8000 people alive and it was accepted immediately

[Anonymous No.8540400]

>>8540355

That's Mary Elizabeth Winstead's husband, right? Why he is taunting her with softcore porn (by woman standards) is beyond me. Honestly Riley Stearns is one lucky guy I don't understand how he managed to win MEW's hand in marriage. There's hope for us all.

[Anonymous No.8540582]

>>8540400
>There's hope for us all.
there is always hope to be a cuck

[Anonymous No.8540592]

Reminder that women do know what they want, and that they do not want you.

[Anonymous No.8540601]

>>8537437
Read Simone de Bouvouir on what women are all about. No one's ever put it better, not even Shopenhauer ;)

[Anonymous No.8541150]

how do I find some pure christian girls like them?

[Anonymous No.8541156]

>>8541150
You may want to consider church related activites for young people. Most parishes have them. You'll find both pure girls and sluts there.

[Anonymous No.8541603]

There is nothing wrong with pleasing girls, In fact, nobody knows what else to do with their life.

[Anonymous No.8542015]

>>8540592

>some aid workers said that allegations should have been kept private

Unlike when a man commits a sex crime, right? I hope those British women enjoy being tried under Civil Law.

[Anonymous No.8542868]

>>8542015
sexual tourism by (usually middle aged) white European women is a big thing, or way bigger compared to how it's never talked about (maybe because they're "dating" adult men, but it's still exploitation)

[Anonymous No.8542873]

>>8530782
>its a thinly veiled daily thread about women in literature

501(c)4 Non-Profit Nimble America

[Anonymous No.8543797]

>>8531095
>>No, she succeeds where he fails.
such as where?

[Anonymous No.8544019]

>>8542868

I've read that street kids are more likely to be abused by older women than by men. But aren't most of the hookers in SE Asia of legal age? Why would the relative age of the victims mitigate anything? It's appalling what you can get away with if you're not white or male. I wish I was 1/8 Iroquois or something just so I could claim those sweet gov't bennies.

[Anonymous No.8544021]

Reminder that some men choose to marry a ONS