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8525595 No.8525595 [Reply] [Original]

Go to Goodreads, bring back something fun. This really made me think.

>> No.8525744

>>8525595
>find a book that annoys you on pretty much every level
>continue reading until you've finished it
forwhatpurpose.jpg

>> No.8525757

>>8525744
you don't understand, you hafta complete every book you start or else you won't be able to reach the yearly goodreads challenge goal!

>> No.8525763

>>8525744
Or else people will say "wow you can't complain about the book if you didn't finish it."

>> No.8525771

>>8525595
It's always interesting how plebs miss even the most obvious things that make Auster's work interesting.

>> No.8525802
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I try my best to avoid falling for /pol/ shit and then I see a review beginning with "OY GEVALT" and complaining about antisemitism that isn't even in the book.

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>>8525595

>> No.8525829
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>>8525802
/pol/ shit has the most hilarious rationalizing in its 1 star reviews

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>>8525802
At this point, the merge of /pol/ with /lit/, /mu/ and /tv/ is inevitable. /lit/ is yet to take the redpill that their literature was made for / by white men with high IQs and capacity to entertain heavily abstract thought. Such trait is rare among white men and barely unexistant among most ethnical groups in the world.

Yet authors from Iceland are now expected to feel the need to include the political wills of almost alien groups who never cared about literature into their work. Thus, reducing the power of the author over his own creation.

Political correctness is not slowing down, is it?

It won't stop.

/lit/ will have to react at some point or politicians will be ghost-writing their books with their agendas soon.

>> No.8525843

>>8525802
That review doesn't say there was anti-semitism in the book.

>> No.8525849

>>8525840
Was peter jacking it?

>> No.8525853

>>8525842
Yeah this thing that isn't happening is pretty scary isn't it

>> No.8525856

>>8525853
It isn't?

Writers are not getting bashed because they forgot to include a powerful female character or a genius african-american?

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8525857

I have not read it but would you say it was misogynistic?

>> No.8525859

>>8525842
First week on /lit/, huh?

>> No.8525865

>>8525856
Not by anybody who matters

>> No.8525866

>>8525856
For the most part, no.

>> No.8525868

>>8525856
>getting bashed
People having negative opinions about literature is not an injustice. In any case, most of that kind of backlash is against popular garbage and genre fiction. Most people are fine with whatever people are represented in classic literary works. Some are not, but why would you get triggered over that? It's senseless.

>> No.8525874

>>8525842
>take the redpill

Can I go one thread without some idiot babbling about this shit.

>> No.8525878

>>8525874
I don't mind it anymore. I've learned to enjoy the irony.

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>>8525859
guess the book, its often on lit's top 100 and is one of the most influential books of the last 5 centuries

>> No.8525883

>>8525829
This has to be a joke

>> No.8525890
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When a YA reader tries to read out of her comfort zone and is puzzled by lack of adventure and excitement

>> No.8525891

>>8525802
can we retire the word Cringe already?

>> No.8525893

>>8525883
These days its hard to know

>> No.8525898
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When someone has their head up their own ass
>>8525891
Why? cringe is real, just because people use it wrong does not mean we should dump the word

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>>8525857
No. A friend of mine claims to have read it. I was talking about it with a girl that he was trying to date at the time and I guess wanted to look "well read". All he kept saying about it was that it was misogynistic and got very mad if anyone asked him which parts. This was a year ago and he still hasn't admitted he didn't read it. Still fun to mess with him about it, though.

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>>8525890
Can't say I blame her, assays readouts are pretty boring

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>>8525906

>> No.8525925

>>8525890
What book?

>> No.8525929

>>8525890
>wondered else where
kek

>> No.8525933
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8525933

would Shiloah be a book burner?

>> No.8525937

>>8525925
1984 (most of these are from 1984)

>> No.8525942
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>>8525933

>> No.8525952

>>8525890
>That first paragraph

>> No.8525953

>>8525880
The Canterbury Tales? I have a feeling it's not a novel.
Please, I have to know.

>> No.8525984

>>8525840
what the fuck

>> No.8525987

>>8525880
Hamlet? Faust? you were pretty specific with "5 centuries" and I don't see anything else on the list that it could be

>> No.8525990

>>8525953
>>8525937

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What is this guy talking about? found it on Hamlet's page

>> No.8526007

>>8525802
>That misplaced & completely lacking in self-awareness OY GEVALT
audible kek

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Do people just hate mandatory reading or what? every good work seems to have a review by some girl bitching about her school

>> No.8526013

>>8526005
schizophrenia

>> No.8526020
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>>8525952
I have a first paragraph for you

>> No.8526022

>>8525912
I do this for a living. That graph is sexy; the replicates are tight as fuck.

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>>8526020

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>> No.8526036

>these faggots making posts without mentioning the book

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>> No.8526046

>>8525942
Please be Fahrenheit 451

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>>8526036
book is often named in the review. also you could ask so I don't feel like an idiot posting in an empty room. some interaction would be nice. also you could always google the text itself

>> No.8526049

>>8525595
You should be banned for posting these without mentioning the book. Nobody can be arsed to find the original posts on goodreads.

>> No.8526051

>>8526046
nope still 1984

>> No.8526073

>>8526048
Just stop being a total dumbass and post the name of the book. I'm not going to type out the text of the review because you can't type a word

>> No.8526074

>>8526046
Im trying to find a Fahrenheit 451 one but most reviews there are big headache inducing blobs

>> No.8526078

>>8526073
I will take that into consideration. perhaps you should contribute by posting your own findings

>> No.8526079

>>8526040
what is this book

also, name all books you haven't named pls

>> No.8526088
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>>8526046

>> No.8526097

>>8526079
hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy
>>8526034
>>8526020
>>8526028
tale of two cities
>>8526010
Hamlet
>>8525933
>>8525906
>>8525914
>>8525898
1984
>>8525829
mein kampf
>>8525825
The prince by machiavelli

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>>8526097

>> No.8526116

>>8525595

>barring a few plot suprises

Rage engaged.

It's remarkable how, despite being unrelated, there's both a phonetic and semantic similarity between pleb and plot.

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>Absolutely not-this is WAY too boring. Wouldn't read it if it were the last book on Earth.
said Zack Dortches but no posts about burning it (at least I did not find any, there are tons of reviews)

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How often is "nothing happens" a legit statement?

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>>8526133

>> No.8526144

>>8525840
>Hope in Humanity: 0% Remaining

>> No.8526147

>>8526128
Holy shit Alexa, what is that a sixth grade book report?

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>>8526147
yeah half of the reviews are always people complaining that the book was too detailed or complaining that they need someone to hold their hand. This girl took 7 years to finish a book

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What Japanese works do you want me to look up

>> No.8526170

>>8526158

>7 years

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>8526166

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>>8525595
>>8525595
>>8525595
Reviewer in Op's pic

>> No.8526173

>>8526170
anyone who uses gifs in their reviews can instantly be discarded as underage, retarded or both

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>>8526172
>>8525595

apparently she's very popular on Goodreads

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>>8526172
Did you expect anything different?

>> No.8526184

>>8526049
are ya blind, boyo? It's in the dagnabbit image.

>> No.8526190

>>8525744
what do you think reviewers do? drop a book if it's bad? you gotta finish that shit if it's your job.

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>>8526176

>> No.8526195

>>8526171
>>8526166
Murakami is shit though, KotS was completely uninteresting apart from the early chapters that reported the field trip event. The most "surreal" aspect of the book was the prostitute who was also a philosophy student.

>> No.8526201

>>8525802
>alas, Mandingo. He was a fellow of infinite pipe.

>> No.8526204

>>8525842
Oh look a dumb frog poster.

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>> No.8526215

TIME TO THROW A LE EPIC FIT AT LE NORMIES WITH MY LE FELLOW ARTISTIC GENTLEMEN

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I knew a guy that seriously called it The Count of Monte Crisco

>> No.8526224

>>8526215
>I'm being more mature than the others

>> No.8526225

>>8526215
pick up that spaghetti

>> No.8526230

>>8526215
>seriously thinking normies dont make fun of you when you walk around with a copy of Phänomenologie des Geistes and fake reading it

learn to have some fun, Anon.

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>>8526223
>The Count of Monte Crisco

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>>8526237

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any readers of The Wasp Factory can confirm?

>> No.8526260

>>8526215
Which one of these are you?

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Here we have a triple threat
1. read to me mommy
2. not muh waifu
3. it was good but I will give it 1 star

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>>8526272

>> No.8526295

>>8526253
>Those fat girl angle shots
Also some copies of The Wasp Factory have reviews like the second one on the back cover.
It's still a pretty good book though and obviously she's a pleb

>> No.8526325

>>8525900
All of 80 pages in. No mysoginy so far. I'll update you when I get to page 81 and so forth

>> No.8526342

>>8525842
>Aristotle's work was saved by the Arab-Muslims while Christians where prosecuting anyone without an explicitly Neoplatonist worldview

>Islam is an inheritor of the Roman values after the collapse of the Empire

>The european diet only stressed the necessity of plant-based food after intermixing with Muslims during the crusades.

fite me irl fags

>> No.8526353

>>8525840
lol i never thought id say it, but im TRIGGERED

>> No.8526354

>>8526342
>>Aristotle's work was saved by the Arab-Muslims while Christians where prosecuting anyone without an explicitly Neoplatonist worldview
this is a meme, maybe specific works were sourced from muslim libraries, but most ancient texts came through finds in europ and the byzantine empire

>> No.8526374

>>8526342
its funny because catholic church was the one that saved most of the Roman writing and bureaucracy(law,etc)

>> No.8526390

cba to screenshot it, but check out American Psycho on goodreads.

>> No.8526432

>>8525890
why are women so fucking stupid?

>> No.8526447

>>8526354
Scribes tend to miss important points the further a work is copied. The advantage of Eatern trade wasn't exclusively in finding new work but also cross referencing old scripts that had survived almost exclusively through Boethius. That's a lot of stress to put on one scholar.

>>8526374
It's funny because I said "an inheritor," not the exclusive heir. Paris can trace her roots to entrenched group of Roman aristocrats who refused Viking invasion. Wales and London have similar stories of Romanized Celts carrying on the cultural legacy. Islam was made rich by trade and provided intellectuals with a safe court and wealth of knowledge to peruse studies. The claim made by the frogposter about brown people having no literary traditions is false.

>> No.8526468

>>8525856
Not that I've seen

t. reader of the big 3 reviews

>> No.8526481

>>8526048
i mean, she's not that wrong

>> No.8526488

>>8525933
>I didn't finish this at all.
Why is he even allowed to review the book?

>> No.8526496

The problem with threads like these is that you can use Goodreads every single day, including their "recommendation based of shelf" engine, their social feed, their list functions, and their actual book pages with all the publishing information and printing/edition info, and never see any of this shit.

Then you will have either a goodreads thread in two days or a separate thread asking "why would you cucks use goodreads with all these fuckiing roasties lol take the redpill" without realizing the value of the site.

>> No.8526503

>>8525856
>I think /pol/ is not an echo chamber: the post.

>> No.8526512

>>8526496
Gotta say, I use Goodreads quite a lot to keep track of the books I've read and brag to myself about it. And I see that shit almost whenever I read a book review. Even classic genre fiction has some roastie complaining about the casual sexism or something like that.

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the only reason tropic of cancer is considered good is because it gave men boners

>> No.8526514

>>8525857
>>8526325
It's not, but I'm sure "not developing any female characters" can count as mysoginy

>> No.8526524

>>8526513
They didn't actually review anything in that whole screencap.

>> No.8526525

>>8525825
i just spat sandwich on my keyboard

>> No.8526532

>>8526512
>almost whenever I read a book review
I cant imagine using the book reviews unless its on a scholarly monograph that has like 4-5 reviews and 20 reads.

>> No.8526540

>>8525825

wtf I hate women now

>> No.8526551

>>8526532
I dunno, I quite enjoy reading it. It's interesting to see what other people think about it, more to learn more about myself than about other people; what I picked out of the book as opposed to what the majority of people did.

>> No.8526565

These reviews can't be real. I can understand not reading, but what kind of sick fuck goes out of their way to read if they don't even understand or enjoy it? Why bother writing a review about it at all?

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>> No.8526586

>>8526565
A high school student

>> No.8526590

>>8526565
>what kind of sick fuck goes out of their way to read if they don't even understand or enjoy it?

sjws

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>> No.8526602

>>8526593
Should be /lit/ - Literature underneath the post instead of above it.

>> No.8526605

>>8525842

I am a communist and /pol/ disgusts and fascinates me at the same time. I would send all of them to the gulags though simply because they are so fucking stupid.

>> No.8526617

>>8525842
I am a nationalist and think my own culture deserves living room, and /leftypol/ disgusts and fascinates me at the same time. I would send all of them on helicopter rides though simply because they are so fucking stupid.

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>>8526602

>> No.8526651

>>8526617

Horosho, tovarisch!

>> No.8526660

>>8526651
Russia has enough living space as it is and should stop being imperialistic dickbags ruining whatever country they feel like they can infect with their grubby slav hands.

>> No.8526708

>>8526605
Yeah well I am a Fascist and think you're a faggot.

>> No.8526711

>>8526617
>I am a nationalist
>American imperialism is a-ok though! CIA sponsored military coups are hilarious lol helicopter rides amirite?

>> No.8526724

>>8526711
>I am a Communist
>The Soviet Union is a-ok though! Nationalist propaganda and concentration of wealth and power among the part members is hilarious lol gulags amirite?

>> No.8526726

>>8526605
>>8526708
Yeah well I'm a patrician and recognise that all politics is unconcerning, and know you are both bumfucking faggots.

>> No.8526733

>>8526726
Yeah well I'm a plebeian and game of thrones is the best book series of all time

>> No.8526735

>>8526724
No you see, those are good because the Soviets are good.

>> No.8526742

>>8526724
I wasn't the commie guy above, and I actually agree with you. Joking about gulags is idiotic all the same.

>> No.8526744

>>8526735
No, you see, Fascism is good because the NASDAP was good.

>> No.8526756

>>8526744
That's a stupid comparison. Fascists inherently agree with all of fascism, and all its methods. Communists—Soviet Communists—agree with the methods only when used by Soviets.

A better comparison would be the fact that fascists only like people being strong and taking what they want if they don't do it in a socialist kind of way.

>> No.8526769

>>8526756
>That's a stupid comparison. Fascists inherently agree with all of fascism, and all its methods. Communists—Soviet Communists—agree with the methods only when used by Soviets.
That's exactly my point

>> No.8526790

>>8526769
Your point is that your post was mistaken?

>> No.8526791

>>8526790
Yes.

>> No.8526792

>>8526791
I do not believe you.

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>>8526792

>> No.8526829

>>8526183
Pretty good analysis of Dante honestly

>> No.8526836

>>8526193
t. r/atheist

>> No.8526878

>>8525802

>To add one more complaint, this book also embraces the belief that the most terrifying thing to academic white guys is a sexualized black guy. Alas, Mandingo.

If a black guy ever told me he was feeling "sexualized" I would be very, very, afraid.

>> No.8526958

>>8526724

>soviets
>communism

Good one.

>> No.8527186

>>8526958
>real communism has never been tried!
>if you just give us one more try we promise it won't turn into an authoritarian shithole

>> No.8527258

>>8525840
wow this person was 24 years old when she wrote that, not literally 12 like I thought
>>8525857
Compared to most male authors no I wouldn't say DF's writing is sexist, but I can see why someone else would come away thinking that. Joelle is the only developed woman character (and the lady who runs the half way house, but he's still a little cruel about her and she was apparently based exactly on the actual woman who ran the place DFW actually went to; Mom is basically a oedipal cipher).
>>8525890
that's such a problem on goodreads in terms of my sanity looking at reviews, these people who only read shallow ya get sent review copies of actual literary books and write shit like this

>> No.8527285

>>8525890
Jesus, I've only read YA novels for most of my life and was understandably mind-blown when I first read 1984 a while ago. This chick is braindead.

>> No.8527297

>>8526008
I don't understand why she gave a one-star review when she was clearly into the book.

>> No.8527315

>>8526097
Thanks. You're doing the lord's work.

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>>8526272
>>8526279

>> No.8527575

>>8527186

Maybe they could actually practise communism and then you can critique it? It'd be like saying a goat is a terrible fish because it can't breathe underwater.

>> No.8527603

>>8526565
Why do people write "reviews" to books they "DNF" ed on page 37. 1.They are collecting books, so feeling like they read a lot is more important than reading 2.They want to get something out of the time they put in 3. some other retarded reason. Why do people write 1 word "reviews" like "shit", your 1 star is added even if you don't write a review

>> No.8527607

>>8527603
I think a lot of people just want to raise their review/books added counts.

>> No.8527608

>>8526579
>reading something makes you emulate it
sasuga booksAndStuff

>> No.8527611

>>8526513
>men blush at words
bunch of cucks

>> No.8527633

>>8526496
Wut? The thread is not bashing goodreads ( I have goodreads and so do at least 20 other people I saw post in the "post your goodreads accounts" thread) We are mocking people who give 1 star reviews to iconic/influential books because they missed the point,have some arbitrary reason,etc. I put a lot of thought into my ratings, sometimes if the book does not have a lot of reviews(and there is a chance that it will be read by the author) I write a review explaining my stance. This cunts make me feel better about my ratings but at the same time they annoy me, half of you faggots are English majors so imagine you hammering out a book and one of them giving you grief with their shit logic (inb4 I got their money and don't care, lots of these books go out as free copies/book raffles/etc)

>> No.8527639

>>8526565
>what kind of sick fuck goes out of their way to read if they don't even understand or enjoy it?
teens. also since many big names are in mandatory reading lists for schools a lot of teens project their school rage onto the reviews

>> No.8527644

>>8526660
Russia should do whatever if feels like doing because they seem like only ones with any balls left (while still having some morality unlike mainland china)

>> No.8527648

>>8527575
Utopian shit never works in real life, when will you learn?

>> No.8527651

>>8527258
>Joelle is the only developed woman character
Jest has characters? I was under the impression that it was some self help book and athaists meditations on the nature of god

>> No.8527654
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8527654

>>8525595

>> No.8527710

>>8527648
Is the creation of a utopia or near-utopia not the goal of political philosophy? If it isn't, then what do you propose it it?

>> No.8527716

>>8527654
tldr, give me a summery. Who writes these walls of text? To have legit reason you would 1. have to be someone or 2. There should only be 10-20 other reviews around and someone needs represent the negative review side

>> No.8527723

>>8525829
Reddit: the review

>> No.8527732

>>8527654
Are we doing shit books too or does anyone like anita blake, vampire hunter #24

>> No.8527744

>>8527710
Utopian in this case means too good to be true/not taking into account human nature. Having everyone give up self interest just because its Utopian, having robots do all the work is not Utopian but some could argue that while it would be good for us personally it would also lead to stagnation. anyways communism,spiritualism,libertarianism or anarchy sure as hell are not the way

>> No.8527772

>>8526097
Autism

>> No.8527774

>>8527772
how is that autism?

>> No.8527780

>>8527744
How does the individual prioritizing their interests above the interests of the state constitute a breach of human nature?

>> No.8527795

>>8527780
because every individual is a main character in their own story.Without harsh conditioning no one(or at least not enough people) will priorities abstract good over themselves, especially if they are staving to death because gov sold all the grain for industrialization. Even if you get the people needed all you are doing is exploiting a group, the same way hippy faggots live off social security provided by earnest idiots who work hard for the system.

>> No.8527824

>>8527795
How does that apply to anarchy or libertarianism?

Also, what abstract good are you referring to?

>> No.8527844

>>8527824
>what abstract good are you referring to?
The abstract kind. The national goal or whatever interests of the state maybe.
>>8527824
>How does that apply to anarchy or libertarianism?
you can't just leave it up to the people and expect to end up with a working model of a society. anarchy is going to have a lot of "me me me" and general inability. libertarianism is deluding itself when it thinks that a organizations who's aim is maximum profit will always have peoples best interest at heart. all disregard nature of things

>> No.8527848

>>8526109
This must be a joke

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>>8527864

>> No.8527881

>>8527844
What should the national goal or interest of the state be?

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>>8527869

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Is anyone saving these pics for the next thread?

>> No.8527897

>>8526191
Honestly isn't too bad an opinion assuming the guy has actually read Kafka and Dostoyevsky, it's a valid criticism, if the book didn't please him it didn't please him. Doesn't really fit in this thread t b h.

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not a review but come on, would you ignore this gold?

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enders game

>> No.8527935

>>8527912
This is practically a fascinating social document all on its own. Really amazing.

>> No.8527936

>>8526191
>>8527897
She usually posts halfway decent, sometimes helpful reviews.

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8527940

is he right?

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>>8527940

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>>8527943
it keeps going

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8527953

>>8527948
Was this before they had character limits? because I don't think you can make them this long

>> No.8527954

>>8527940
I've actually read a lot of this guy's reviews, because I read fantasy and he reviews an impressive amount of fantasy books. I was intrigued because he seemed to have a good breadth, so I read a bunch of his stuff, and came to the conclusion that he's a pseud.

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>>8527953
sweet Jesus

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>>8527957
Gott im Himmel.

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8527965

>>8527960

>> No.8527976

>>8527940
>It's the same trick many historical fiction authors use, leaving us scratching our heads as to why a Fourteenth Century French peasant speaks like a second-wave feminist.
well some of it is on point

>> No.8528008

>>8525842
I want /pol/ to leave

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>> No.8528153

>>8528096
>I read for enjoyment and prefer to see the world as we wish it was

It's nice when they just spell it out for you like that.

>> No.8528168

>>8527864
>>8527869
just fucking kill me

>> No.8528181

>>8525595
The reviews on the King James Bible are pure cringe

>> No.8528184

>>8525880
It's 1984.

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Somebody r8 my review of Pale Fire

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>>8528192
>Nabokov seems to be much more skilled at poetry than prose

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>>8528181
he he we gotta joker here

>> No.8528199

>>8528197
But it's true. His prose is shit.

>> No.8528202

>>8526605
>I am a communist

Opinion discarded

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>> No.8528215

>>8528198
>666 comments

>> No.8528223

>>8528198
based Dennis the menace

>> No.8528226

>>8528209
how unpc. also confirmed virgin

>> No.8528250

>>8528202
>Reading only opinions that you agree with.

Rhodes scholar, ladies n gentlemen.

>> No.8528293

>>8525744
The one-star reviews of the last volume of Proust are hilarious.

>> No.8528297

>>8528293
Thanks for being lazy.

>> No.8528331

>>8528209
This is pretty good. Not cringe at all.

>> No.8528389

this will be the last thread i looked at before i shoot myself

>> No.8528402

>>8528389

Good luck, man. Don't botch it if you're really going to do it.

>> No.8528449

>>8526048
I actually agree with this one

>> No.8528456

>>8526253
it's a good book, but not something normies will appreciate

>> No.8528476

>>8527954
>>8527940
He hates Tolkien which automatically proves he is a try-hard, add in his profile pic and long-winded reviews and I can confidently confirm he is a pseudo

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>>8527912
lost hard, there's no way that's an accurate analysis. Way too funny

>> No.8528505

>>8525825
That is a top shelf kek right there my friend. A hearty laugh

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8528509

Took this from Amazon (close enough, I just want to share)

This is the description for the book The English Patent by Johnny Johnson.

Some things to notice;
o He named the main character after himself
o If you go to the page the first review gives it three stars and goes on to say they could only make it a few pages in
o The second and final review is clearly written by the author
o Working with shitty tech execs, this is the funniest shit Ive read in a long time

Please share in my joy at this book

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Follow up post...

>> No.8528526

Oh shit... he cut most of the description since I last read it...

To the wayback machine! Or somethinv

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>> No.8528589

>>8527716
Or you're pissed because the author has been fucking with you for years. Turning your book into a porno.

>> No.8528625

>>8525595
I've also disliked Brooklyn Follies and gave it two stars on Goodreads but fuck those are terrible reasons.
>White male
STOP THIS MEME

>>8525744
I almost never drop a book. Can't do it, I'd feel guilty otherwise.

>> No.8529001

>>8526010
Mandatory reading for my primary school was so shit that if not for my best friend who came in in 5th grade and handed me The Eye of the World I don't think I would have read anything besides chinese cartoons.

>> No.8529214

>>8525595

What is wrong with a women as an agent of growth? Growing together in life with a women is a great thing.

>> No.8529275

>>8526109
> i don't read classics
> books are my life

kek

>> No.8529304

>>8526565
me desu

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>>8525595
Too be honest, is there pompous old white male bitching about shit worth reading after reading pic related? I feel like all introspective literature starts and ends with this.

>> No.8529430

>>8528482
look it up. its not analysis, its the fucking book blurb. Most ratings are 1 star "because its racist" I stumbled upon it by looking for worst rated books on goodreads

>> No.8529439

>>8527918
>anon is mad that his power fantasy got outed

Ender's Game is trashmouthbreathing tier, deal with it

>> No.8529608

>>8526605
I'm a tzarist and your marxist fantasy opinion goes into the trash.

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>> No.8529721

Goodreads is basically what you'd get if you asked a load of young soda-pop junkies to review fine wines and whiskies. Of course they're going to hate it, of course they're incapable of appreciating them. Developing a palate takes time. The real problem is hubris; that they think their opinions matter.

>> No.8529929

>>8529721
thanks for pointing the obvious

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>comics pleb can't into Jerusalem: the post

>> No.8530715

>>8530280
At least he's honest.

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>>8530280
>>8529712
no

>> No.8530749

>>8527918
Ender's game goes in in the bin

>> No.8530755

>>8527864
What book?

>> No.8530759

>>8530755
it's obviously Lolita

>> No.8530775
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Finnegans Wake? Nope, it's Ulysses

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>Looking for Alaska

>> No.8530815

>>8530806
i want to fucking kill myself

>> No.8530832

>>8526342
baqqq 2 reddit you faggot

>> No.8530871

>>8525933
>"I was completely turned off by the sexual content."
>her profile picture is her and her two children
wew lad

>> No.8530883

>>8530280
Nothing wrong with this although I think giving one star isn't justified

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>>8528198
>666 comments

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>>8526621
Center "/lit/ - Literature/ and bring the post down a bit

>> No.8531058

>>8528096
>so when I read and want to relax, I don't want grim realism
Get out of jail free card for any hobby to justify never challenging yourself.

>> No.8531073

>>8530963
McSharty on suicide watch

>> No.8531121

>>8526005
is this a literal winnie the pooh roleplay account

>> No.8531132
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this one's gold

>> No.8531146

>>8530963
She gets it.

>> No.8531149

>>8531132
Manny is prolific.

>> No.8531150

>>8531132
>too-sexy-for-maiden-aunts
my sides!

>> No.8531151

>>8531146
She fails to capture his style from the get go. It's like she changed nothing. Embarrassing.

>> No.8531153

>>8527869
>maybe I'm just too dumb to get it
bingo

>> No.8531156

>>8527869
Ya, DNF is likely his permanent status. Not even that mail order thialand bride changes that.

>> No.8531193

>>8525595
>I got triggered on goodreads
>wahhh
Go back to your safe space.

>>>/pol/

>> No.8531222

>>8530775
>he quit reading the book before the book even began

>> No.8531229

>>8530963
This reviewer's Spanish is awful

>> No.8531236

>>8531229
That's part of the point

>> No.8531242

>>8531236
o

>> No.8531295

>>8525829
oh fuck no please, im dying ove rhere this is real?

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>>8525906
>and then my liking took a sharp turn, in fact, a u-turn.

>> No.8531391

>>8527651
I didn't really feel like it had characters

>> No.8531501

>>8530775
!!!!!!!
my top thing-stupid-people-say that I hate is "everyone is lying about reading this!*"
*because I, stupid person, am very arrogant and don't realize how stupid I am so I assume everyone is a liar and also "ponces" bc they have the nerve to be smarter than me, more dedicated than me, and be interested in things I'm too small-minded to get

people do the same with modern art/art past the impressionists but this board is full of those knobs so no one respond to this part

(also this guy misuses the word visceral unless there's some other uk usage)

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>>8527912
>>8527935

>> No.8531611

>>8528250
That's funny coming from a communist.

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>>8527912

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Really didn't make me think

>> No.8531782

>>8531295
Yeah, this is the average one star review for Mein Kampf.

>> No.8531828

>>8526342
>The european diet only stressed the necessity of plant-based food after intermixing with Muslims during the crusades

what do you think the greeks ate, moron.
not much meat, ill tell you that

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>> No.8533072

>>8531754
well that is are your opinion

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>>8533055

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>>8530963

>> No.8533155
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Goodreads just needs to be nuked.

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1,853 ratings for a shitty fantasy book that hasn't even been released.

>> No.8533181

>>8533155
Am I the only one that doesn't care about the social side of goodreads?

I mostly use it to keep track of books I read/have and to motivate me to write (reviews).

I don't care what other people are doing.

>> No.8533196

>>8533181
We're in the same boat. I follow a few people I found interesting, jot down my thoughts, and move on.

People who make screenshots and get mad about 1 star reviews probably also get mad about the stuff people write on toilet walls.

>> No.8533210

>>8531132
Objectively, you cannot fault this review.

>> No.8533211

>>8525840
Honest to god, how is she not right? The diary of anne frank is one of the most pathetic books ever written, and it is laughable that she wanted to actually publish this herself (had she survived). The only reason this croak of absolute abhorrent writing is still a thing, is due to the sentiment. You can't even blame anne frank though, she was a young girl, but teachers and the like pretending this wreck of a book is anything worthwhile reading should take some time off to reconcile their opinion.

>> No.8533217

>>8533160
Your jealousy is shining through.

Just because you got all those rejection letters, an editor doesn't want to take you on, and no one lines up in cues to read your shit book, doesn't mean you have to take it out on other people who got their shit book sold.

>> No.8533230

>>8533160
Will never be released*

>> No.8533231

>>8533217

I'm not even a writer. What the fuck is with people on this board?

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>>8533231
Welcome to lit.
Keep your sarcasm at easy reach, jealousy to a low burn, fanfiction to a minimum, and memes inline with the board.

>> No.8533300

>>8533244
You are fucking retarded.

>> No.8533305

>>8533231
Welcome to /lit/ where people don't understand the difference between envy and jealousy. Especially fans of fantasy.

>> No.8533365

>>8527315
>>8527315


Reddit stock phrase, often see it posted everywhere along with
>you're a gentleman and a scholar!
> wow, X much?

>> No.8533402

you should see those prissy tween girls try and objectively review philip roth

>> No.8533445

>>8533305
They are both different sides to the same green eyed coin desu.

>> No.8533595

>>8533196

Oh wow its all water off a ducks back for you, very cool man. People like you are either (most likely) talking shit, or are genuinely just really dull.

Why do you wear that aspect of yourself with pride? I don't see what's so brilliant about not caring about other people's ill informed and stupid opinions - to have no emotional or logical objection to the shit someone spews regarding something that lies in your field of interests doesn't mean you're strong, untouchable or above it all. It just means you're disconnected from the community, academic and otherwise, of your interest and just want to jerk to yourself in an echo chamber.

>> No.8533630

>>8533595
theres a difference between that shit and actively seeking out dissenting opinions that anger you

>> No.8533660

>>8533630
I don't see a discernable difference. Most of the other threads on /lit/ are made up of posts where users argue with each other and discuss literature (with some really great memes thrown in the mix), this just happens to be a thread where the collective opinion of the board unites to 'argue' with outside POVs.

>> No.8533683

>>8533211
she's a kiddo lay off the grill, but yes ure are right

>> No.8533706

>>8533211
Who's talking about the book in purely literary terms? It's read as a historical document and teaching tool, like memoirs written by teen girls during Stalin's purges or by black civil rights activists int he 60s or people in the depression. The extent to which it is unremarkable and the average girl's journal is part of the point, banality of (living though) evil.

>> No.8533715

>>8533706
>It's read as a historical document and teaching tool
If only. Clearly I can't speak for all classes and all countries, but most people I ran into as well as my friends reckon that 'book' is literature. Nearly every school in the Netherlands allows this to be read for literary purposes.

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>>8533196
desu if I was an author I would be pissed at goodreads- they/publishers/whoever else sends out advanced copies send out literary books to popular users, but those users are popular for reviewing YA/non-literary fiction so then you have popular users hating on your poor book before it comes out when had things taken their usual course the reviewer never would have picked up your book on their own

go to any book that came out this year and you have a bunch of dummies whining about the difficulty of it when it is really not very complicated at all and they end up being the top rated reviews

>> No.8533748

>>8531553
Marilyn wasn't some mega genius, but she did sincerely like to read. :( Leave her alone. :(
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/77870.Marilyn_Monroe_s_Personal_Library

>> No.8534250

>>8527954
How is he a pseud?

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im dying

>> No.8534923

>>8525890
>it took me a year
>1984