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[Anonymous No.8495946]

are you scared of death

[Anonymous No.8495953]

yes. Only fags who don't understand say stupid shit like "well I won't know it so why should I be afraid". The negation of being is a horrific prospect

[Anonymous No.8495956]

I'm scared of dying.

I'm find with not existing.

[Anonymous No.8495959]

No, should I be afraid?

[Anonymous No.8495964]

>>8495953

>Socrates was a fag who didn't understand your particular flavour of cowardice

[Anonymous No.8495965]

>>8495946

Before we were born we didn't exist. No amount of time can sum up the non-existence of time that we were apart of.

When we die we travel back to our original states. Everything has a birth and death, and the only thing that is infinite is the concept of non-existence.

[Anonymous No.8495966]

>>8495946

No, but I would much rather continue living beyond the lifespan of an average human. Eventually though I would want to die just because I am curious to whether or not we possess a soul. We probably don't, but I have to know for sure.

[Anonymous No.8495973]

>>8495953

The negation of being, being nothingness? It is not so much a prospect as an absence of one. Do you think you'll maintain some degree of consciousness in your eternal void?

[Anonymous No.8495976]

>>8495965
>When we die we travel back to our original states.

And I base this on absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.8495977]

>>8495966
You mean life after death? If not, you'll never know for sure- you won't find anything out by dying.

[Anonymous No.8495978]

>>8495977
so deep

[Anonymous No.8495980]

>>8495946

Yes, terrified, like everyone else, of dying before I do what I would like to do.

[Anonymous No.8495983]

>>8495980
After you do what you like to do you'll kill yourself.

Got it.

[Anonymous No.8495985]

>>8495964

Socrates was fucking old.

[Anonymous No.8495986]

>>8495985
>when i'm old i'll be okay with no longer existing.

[Anonymous No.8495988]

>>8495977

Yes, life after death, is there one? Probably not. But all things die, and I'd like to know what all the fuss is about.

[Anonymous No.8495990]

>>8495988
>Probably not

Don't be stupid.

[Anonymous No.8495995]

>>8495990

What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.8495996]

>>8495983

What motivates a post like this? What screech tears across a mind to stir it these words?

[Anonymous No.8495998]

>>8495995
He's suggesting intelligence.

[Anonymous No.8495999]

>>8495978
Not trying to be deep. Just saying that in the interval between dying and dead there is no possible time in which you can know for sure that there is no afterlife.

[Anonymous No.8496001]

>>8495996
To receive shitting writing as a response.

[Anonymous No.8496003]

>>8495946

No, I'm scared of living

[Anonymous No.8496004]

>>8496001

You're a child.

[Anonymous No.8496005]

>>8495999
who cares? it's an empty vessel for the mind to ponder.

[Anonymous No.8496013]

>>8496004
try to refrain from molesting him

[Anonymous No.8496014]

>>8495946
A year ago I would've said no, but then I almost drowned trying stop by fucking stupid drunk Uncle from getting pull away at sea. Shit fucked me up.

[Anonymous No.8496017]

>>8495946
is a child afraid of hurting its knee or any kind of similar childhood wound, before actually experiencing it for the first time? no. so why should we, while we're alive, be afraid of dying if we've never experienced it? not to mention that "death" is just a word. are you afraid of the word "death"?

[Anonymous No.8496018]

>>8496014
haha

[Anonymous No.8496020]

>>8496005
Just correcting anon about the prospect of knowing for sure. I saw a wrong thing on the internets.

[Anonymous No.8496022]

>>8495946
Nope. In many ways I look forward to it. If I'm ever killed by someone I wish for the opportunity to thank them.
And no I'm not suicidal.

[Anonymous No.8496023]

>>8495998

In regards to what?

[Anonymous No.8496024]

>>8496017
>is a child afraid of hurting its knee or any kind of similar childhood wound, before actually experiencing it for the first time? no.

I don't necessarily disagree with the rest of the things you said, but that was a pretty dumb point to start out with. Ever heard of "irrational" fears?

[Anonymous No.8496026]

>>8496018

[Anonymous No.8496028]

>>8496020
wow you're so adorbs

[Anonymous No.8496029]

>>8496022

You're not suicidal yet you would thank your killer. Sounds suicidal to me, family.

[Anonymous No.8496031]

>>8496029
No, he's a genius because he knows the longer you put off something you want the sweeter it'll be, right??

[Anonymous No.8496034]

Simply put, I don't want to die. Otherwise I would kill myself.

I don't have much say in the matter otherwise.

However, if I had a magic opportunity to choose never having existed, I would take it.

Life is not worth it. I'm just too squeamish to aid death.

( ._.)

[Anonymous No.8496038]

>>8496034

Schopenhauer pls go

[Anonymous No.8496041]

>>8496038
no meme pls

[Anonymous No.8496043]

Are you afraid of QUESTIONS?!

[Anonymous No.8496044]

>>8496024
what do you mean? you can have an irrational fear of dogs, but this fear only appears once you've actually been hurt by a dog in some way, and from there on you just exaggerate the situation ("all dogs are like that so I should be careful"). i'm talking about a situation before being hurt for the first time

[Anonymous No.8496045]

>>8496044
Are you a Scientologist? That's the level of "knowledge" you're imparting.

[Anonymous No.8496049]

>>8496029
I just try to be grateful for everything in my life.

[Anonymous No.8496050]

>>8496043
All questions are merely answers that are afraid of themselves.

[Anonymous No.8496051]

>>8496045
what?

[Anonymous No.8496052]

>>8496049
2edgy4me

[Anonymous No.8496053]

>>8496049

Surely not all things are worth your gratitude.

[Anonymous No.8496056]

>>8496053
I'm insane, so yes I don't differentiate things.

[Anonymous No.8496059]

>>8496053
Why not?

[Anonymous No.8496060]

yes, terrified. I just try to repress it

[Anonymous No.8496063]

>>8495946
Prepared for it, no? Scared of it? Also, no.

Death is an unavoidable event that is a mystery to humanity. The other side is entirely unknowable with any amount of certainty beyond faith. I'm curious to see what lies beyond death. If it's nothingness, will it even register? What happens to my consciousness? How could something with the depth of philosophical thoughts and the power of raw emotion simply disappear and cease to exist? It's absolutely mind-boggling.

However, on the off chance that it IS simply ceasing to exist, I'd like to continue life for awhile longer, experiencing what I have to experience and whatnot. In the meantime, what's everyone's favorite idea of an afterlife? I personally would enjoy an instant-replay of the life you just lived, except it can be altered as you have already lived it once. Invest all of your money in Microsoft and Apple right when they start up, Avoid X person because of Y shit, know exactly how to roll with the punches, etc. A chance to perfect the life you lived the first time.

[Anonymous No.8496065]

>>8496034

All things are a void, they can be anything you want, including life. If you decide it is not worth it then it isn't worth it. But, step back from your preconceived notions about your circumstances and exert your will towards living as the most moral version of yourself. Do it for me, family.

[Anonymous No.8496067]

>>8496059
Why do you ask?

[Anonymous No.8496070]

What if the consciousness lingers around the body after death? What if we're fully conscious as we're zip-locked and put under ice, as we're being drained of our fluids and embalmed, as we are fed into the incinerators of the crematorium? When we are buried what if we remain there in the cold, airless darkness under the earth, watching as our earthly remains putrify?

[Anonymous No.8496072]

>>8496065
*rolls eyes*

[Anonymous No.8496078]

>>8496056

At least you have the perspective to understand this, so that's something at least.

>>8496059
Because fuck all that noise, don't take shit from people.

[Anonymous No.8496080]

>>8496070
What if you're just retarded?

[Anonymous No.8496082]

>>8496072

Family, noooo

[Anonymous No.8496087]

>>8495946
Yeah, but I'm trying to overcome it. It's perhaps the greatest step towards true realization (or an early grave).

[Anonymous No.8496090]

>>8496063
>In the meantime, what's everyone's favorite idea of an afterlife? I personally would enjoy an instant-replay of the life you just lived
when I was a child, I think I saw some kind of Christian pamphlet in the form of a comic book, and basically got the idea that once you die, its you, your parents and God sitting in a room with a projector, and they're replaying all the events of your life, and obviously your parents are really mad/disappointed at the bad things you've done which they don't know about

[Anonymous No.8496094]

>>8496078
The first anon wasn't me. And I try not to see it as shit and fight against it.

[Anonymous No.8496097]

>>8496087
no. it's just a dead end.

best to keep your head in the sand, bro, than to live knowing it's fruitless anyway

[Anonymous No.8496099]

>>8495977
You'll still have nothing to know

[Anonymous No.8496100]

>>8496094
I'm sorry. I take everything back, then.

You're just an idiot.

[Anonymous No.8496102]

I feel like I'm the only one who wants immortality
>muh getting sick of life but not being able to die
bls. good thing I was born when I was, because I at least have a shot of living to over 100 years old comfortably due to advances in science

[Anonymous No.8496103]

>>8496094

But other people deciding whether or not you should live or die is totally shit.

[Anonymous No.8496104]

>>8496097
Nice spooked, friend.

[Anonymous No.8496106]

>>8496102
Why would you want to remain in the same decrepit body for so long? You're just holding back your reincarnation.

[Anonymous No.8496109]

>>8496102

Immortality without the option to kill yourself sounds terrifying. What if you fall down some crevice while hiking in the middle of buttfuck nowhere. Nobody would come for you, you would spend an eternity slowly going insane in Earth's asscrack.

[C.W Smith No.8496110]

>>8495946
Nice Volcano Choir pic

Bon Iver is better tho

[Anonymous No.8496113]

>>8496106

Present me your evidence for reincarnation.

[Anonymous No.8496116]

>>8496102
>survive until the heat death of the unvierse
>be alone
>forever
No fucking thanks.

[Anonymous No.8496119]

>>8496109
dude, *takes a puff*, what if.. what if that's what God is, man? an immortal hiker that is spending eternity stuck in some crevice? *takes a puff*

[Anonymous No.8496122]

>>8496119

About as plausible as every other notion of God.

[Anonymous No.8496124]

>>8496113
Various religious texts.
The visions of mystics.
People who have memories of their past lives.

[Anonymous No.8496125]

>>8496109
by immortality i just mean not dying of old age. injuries could still kill you

[Anonymous No.8496126]

>>8496102
Yeah, I would like this experience to last forever.

Who wouldn't?

[Anonymous No.8496127]

>>8496100
Why do you say that?
>>8496103
No different than whatever other means "deciding" it.

[Anonymous No.8496128]

>>8496124
liars

[Anonymous No.8496129]

>>8496106
anti-aging treatments/drugs are being successfully tested on animals as we speak.

[Anonymous No.8496130]

>>8496124

So other people. I remain unconvinced.

[Anonymous No.8496131]

>>8496127
That's absolutely meaningless.

[Anonymous No.8496133]

>>8496127
>No different than whatever other means "deciding" it.

And we should actively fight against those means as well.

[Anonymous No.8496134]

>>8496130

[Anonymous No.8496135]

>>8496116
if human civilization lasts to that point, we will probably have found some way to either reverse entropy or transcend into a higher existence or some shit

[Anonymous No.8496136]

>>8496130

[Anonymous No.8496140]

>>8496136
no meme pls

[Anonymous No.8496141]

>>8496135
15,000 years of civilization and we still poop stinky stuff out our buttholes. What makes you so optimistic?

[Anonymous No.8496142]

>>8496136

I don't understand how not taking someone's claims at face value is fedora.

[Anonymous No.8496143]

>>8496133
Plot and scheme all you want, you'll never succeed though.

[Anonymous No.8496145]

This thread itself gives reason for not existing at all.

[Anonymous No.8496147]

>>8496143

It's not about succeeding, it's about trying, family.

[Anonymous No.8496153]

>>8496141
>billions, if not trillions, of years

[Anonymous No.8496154]

>>8495946
I am afraid of dying before I have finished what I need to do in life. Death itself doesn't scare me though, just the time limit.

[Anonymous No.8496155]

>>8496147
so noble wow

[Anonymous No.8496156]

>>8496147
Trying to... Succeed?

[Anonymous No.8496157]

>>8496106
that's too much of a gamble

[Anonymous No.8496158]

>>8496135

I'd say the probability of humanity either destroying itself or getting destroyed by something else is equally high, if not more so.

[Anonymous No.8496159]

>>8495985
Old people are stupid, all that time and experience is worthless.

[Anonymous No.8496160]

>>8496155

Is that a bad thing?

>>8496156

Trying to increase the lifespan of humanity, yes.

[Anonymous No.8496161]

>>8496142
It's not a matter of a few claims, it's a whole phenomena of reports throughout human history, and the enduring religious traditions that interpret those experiences

[Anonymous No.8496165]

>>8496158
once we start making significant headway into colonizing space, it would be extremely hard to kill a species that's so spread out and numerous.

[Anonymous No.8496167]

>>8496165
yeah thats why the cosmos is so full of other life forms

[Anonymous No.8496168]

>>8496161
And there's people who have saw heaven and their love ones waiting for them in that place. That doesn't constitute proof of the existence of heaven.

[Anonymous No.8496170]

>>8496161

All of which has a rational explanation like group dynamics.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just that second hand accounts are never going to convince me.

[Anonymous No.8496175]

>>8496167
you know, we could be one of the first intelligent species in the history of the universe. like, the universe itself is fairly young. the rock we live on has been around for a third of the universe's existence, isn't that a bit weird?
>tfw we are the Forerunners

[Anonymous No.8496182]

>>8495976
>being this retarded

What do we base anything on?

Our reason. And it's logical to assume that when we die it will just be like when we were born. We won't exist.

[Anonymous No.8496184]

>>8495946
I'm scared of dying before my life is finished.

[Anonymous No.8496188]

>>8496182
>thinking creates reality

so powerful.

[Anonymous No.8496189]

>>8496182
We did exist before we were born. We existed as non-Self elements.

[Anonymous No.8496190]

>>8496184
technically your life would be finished right when you die

ahahahaha

[Anonymous No.8496192]

>>8496160
>being this insecure about being a sci-fi fantasy nerd

this is good.

[Anonymous No.8496193]

>>8496184
>he thinks his life will be finished someday
I got bad news for you, anon.
>>8496189
A condition for existing is being. If you're not being you then you don't exist. Therefore, you can't be a "non-self element" and exist at the same time.
This is like saying "but what was before the big bang", when in fact there's not such a thing as "before the big bang" because there was no time.

[Anonymous No.8496195]

>>8496189
So we existed before being and will after?

[Anonymous No.8496199]

>>8496193
blah blah blah

[Anonymous No.8496200]

I'm my own grandpa.

[Anonymous No.8496201]

>>8496195
Sure. And until we be again.

[Anonymous No.8496204]

>>8496199
Nice arguments.
Your next move is posting the fedora guy.

[Anonymous No.8496205]

>>8496201
>Not continually being, it's like you haven't embraced the eternal recurrence.

[Anonymous No.8496209]

>>8496205
That's called abidance, and it doesn't occur until you've recurred into the higher planes of existence. Consciousness is not merely horizontal.

[Anonymous No.8496210]

>>8496204
Your "arguments" were "nice" however uninteresting and not well supported in the first place.

Awaiting your deep response.

[Anonymous No.8496212]

I used to think I'm not then I noticed how cautious I am while crossing the street. I guess I was lying to myself, and fear of death is innate and natural. We sorta prefer life over death no matter how shitty it gets.
I like how Muslims in the past weren't scared of death because they saw it as returning to God and ending their Earthly phase/stage. It's really something which makes me wonder if it can boiled down to Certainty. We're scared because we're not certain of what's after death, while those Muslims were certain. If it can't be boiled down to that, I'm sure it plays a huge part at least. That's my two cents anyway.

[Anonymous No.8496217]

>>8496212
That was more than two cents.

That was about three fifty.

[Anonymous No.8496221]

>>8496217
Do you have friends?

[Anonymous No.8496231]

I have a survival instinct like anybody but I wouldn't be pissed if an asteroid destroyed earth tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.8496233]

>>8496231
Life isn't constant rainbows and kittens for you?

[Anonymous No.8496235]

>>8496182
So are you saying that the vast majority of human thought and experience is incorrect, but your reason is correct?

[Anonymous No.8496238]

>>8496235
"correct or incorrect" as relative to what. itself?

Don't place so much on the power of thought.

[Anonymous No.8496239]

>>8495946
No.

[Anonymous No.8496242]

maybe

[Anonymous No.8496243]

>>8496210
I don't even know which response you're criticizing, so I will take responsibility for both of them.

The "I'm scared of dying before my life is finished" implies that one life is about reaching a certain goal that, after being achieved, said life is finished. However plenty of things could happen through life that could stop you for achieving those goals, or even you could change your worldview as a whole, leaving said goals irrelevant and finding others.
Yeah, there's the chance that you could complete said goals, but human endeavor usually doesn't stop once your goals are complete. People usually thrives for other things after they have achieved something. Things are never complete, and easy things aren't as satisfactory as those that are hard to achieve, so one must seek to do as much as one can in order to obtain true realization.
Or perhaps I'm just overthinking it

About existing before we were born that's really simple to explain. Even if there was something before our current state of existence that's irrelevant to the discussion the moment you realize that said possible "existence" has nothing to do with our current state of affairs.
All of what makes you... Well, you, has existed as long as the time you have stayed on this earth. You don't have any memories about your "non-self" because from your current point of view you didn't exist in that moment. You, the one that is currently in front of a computer discussing about other forms of existence, are choosing to believe that there is a before, but even the sole concept of "before" is possible only because you exist in this finite existence in which you travel to an inevitable death that's called "life". All of what resides outside of that state of affairs is quite "unreachable" if you can't contrast it with other human experiences, or in other words, you cannot demonstrate the non-self because there's not such a thing as remembering being a non-self.
That's way the self comes first to existence, because existence is a condition created by the self to describe his state of affairs in this world.

[Anonymous No.8496248]

>>8496243
oy. this ain't the psychiatrist's couch, buddy.

tl;dr pls

[Anonymous No.8496256]

>>8496248
Oh, I see. You're just an idiot who goes around saying stupid shit without giving any relevant feedback. Now I get it.
Well, it's my fault for picking the bait.

[Anonymous No.8496257]

>>8496256

[Anonymous No.8496258]

I haven't fully realized that I'll die one day. Hopefully, I'll die in an instant before I ever start to worry about death.

[Anonymous No.8496259]

>>8496257
no meme pls

[Anonymous No.8496262]

>>8496258
Get high and watch torture porn. It's fun.

[Anonymous No.8496270]

>>8496262
What the fuck is wrong with you? You sick fuck!!!

[Anonymous No.8496272]

>>8496270
sick fuck!!!

[Anonymous No.8496292]

>>8496272

Yeah, fuck you, you fucking snowflake.

[Anonymous No.8496295]

>>8496292
fucking snowflake!!!

[Anonymous No.8496415]

>>8495946
Watts speaks about memory and sleep when talking about death, or better about the futility of this whole anxiety we all have about the concept of not existing anymore. Do you remeber the last time you woke up? Sure, now do you remember the FIRST time you woke up, as a child? and what was there before that? Well obviosly no. So when we die, its not that different, you see, from going to sleep without waking up the next morning, say you die in your sleep at night, would you have any experience of anything? I'm fascinated by his explaination and truly believe we experience death every night and we did before we were born.
We're just lucky, some more than others, to wake up.

[Anonymous No.8496425]

>>8495953
Only sheltered babbies with easy lives see the negation of existence as anything but sweet relief.

[Anonymous No.8496444]

>>8495946
Anybody who answers "no" is so scared of death that he feels he tries to deny his fear by concealing it :^^^)

[Anonymous No.8496475]

>>8495946
Yeah. It's like asking if you experience pain. It's a completely inborn thing that everyone has.

[Anonymous No.8496516]

As a person who has 0 health related problem sitting comfortably in my chair on a sunday. No.

Ask again later when I drive on a narrow road during a snowstorm.

[Anonymous No.8496527]

>>8496516
Sitting is the new smoking.

[Anonymous No.8496530]

my only fear that it isn't actually the end, that you can't just off yourself and that's that.

[Anonymous No.8496567]

>>8495946
Nope. If my life was currently threatened I'd fight to survive, but that's because I enjoy this life, not because I'm afraid of the inevitable end or worried about anything after it.

[Anonymous No.8496640]

Well I am scared, which is natural, but I accept it. It simply has to happen, pointless fighting, screaming and resisting is pointless.
t. grandma is dying

[Anonymous No.8496646]

>tfw laying in bed.
>The knowledge of consciousness impermanence condemns you to the nightly acceptance of your death.
>Every moment is your last.

[Anonymous No.8496683]

I'm afraid of dying
I accepted I will die

[Anonymous No.8496688]

>>8496646
This. We die in every breath

pretty ebin

[Anonymous No.8496690]

>>8495946

No, but dying terrifies me.

[Anonymous No.8496693]

No, and for those who say: 'oh, you just don't get it, you haven't really come to terms with how terrifying death is, you just have a bunch of defense mechanisms blocking you off from the reality of it'
That could well be true but that's who I am now and will be (for the most part) for the rest of my life, doesn't stop the fact that even when I've sincerely felt there was a chance I was going to die, I wasn't terrified, I wasn't even particularly concerned.

Getting tortured/the prospect of it, that's terrifying. Not the dying part that could well come after it

[Anonymous No.8496777]

>>8495946
The prospect of the alternative of eternal existence is just as much if not more terrifying to me.

[Anonymous No.8496779]

>>8496777

[Stay In Your Containment Board No.8496807]

>>8495946
The phil board is that way >>>/his/

[Anonymous No.8496808]

>>8496777

[Anonymous No.8496837]

>>8496272
>>8496295
Actual autism

[Anonymous No.8496848]

No. The only alternative to not dying is to live forever, and eternal life is more terrifying then eternal death.

[Anonymous No.8496856]

haha me? no, not me. not ever

[Anonymous No.8496858]

>>8496136

[Anonymous No.8496878]

>>8495946
yay, i cry evrytiem

[Anonymous No.8496899]

>>8496063
>If it's nothingness, will it even register?
I have seen some dumb questions on the interwebs before but this one is a keeper. Wow