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Any fans of paul feyerabend in here?

>> No.842777
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>> No.842795
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ill fnord to that

>> No.842804

Dude. Against Method changed my life. He's definitely one of my favourite philosophers

>> No.842805

>>842777

Those that are capable of forcing complete conformity to their beliefs, have earned the right to proclaim those beliefs as fact.

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>>842804
iknowrite?

>> No.842819

>>842805
yay for indoctrination

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feyerabend pwns

>> No.842845

>>842805
You know, I was going to say that someone who "forces conformity" by dint of having beliefs that are able to be proved correct in a reproducible way is different than someone who "forces conformity" by dint of violence, but I guess that the claim that Feyerabend is making is that there is no difference, or not much of one. I obviously need to read some of his work, because that sounds patently stupid.

>> No.842857

>>842845

You would never know the difference, if you were conforming to their belief though.

It's not enough to parrot the party line, you must BELIEVE it.

>> No.842904

>>842857
Right, but I could perform experiments that would reproduce the results of, say, Isaac Newton, but I certainly couldn't falsify, say, the racialist theories of Khmer Rouge propaganda.

>> No.842913

>>842842
Do you think I'm allowed to post that as my Facebook status without having actually read "Against Method?"

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>>842819
indeed

>> No.842929

>>842913
anything goes, bro. He said it himself.

although id try reading his wikiquote shit if you want to get familiar with the guy

>> No.842933

I have Science in a Free Society here from my mum. Is it worth a read?
I was hoping on reading Ziman's Reliable Knowledge first.

>> No.842943

>>842933
thats the only book i havent read of him, but i know its one of his most important. Its also fucking rare as balls

>> No.842950

I agree with everyone in this thread. Am I relativist dad?

>> No.842958

>>842943
Really? Wow... you've got me interested, sir. I know my mum had to study the two texts I've mentioned in university.

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something lit and appreciate

>> No.842979

>>842958
yeah man, i've been looking for that book for over half a year, everywhere online its like 50 dollars.

>> No.843157

>>842904

It's well known that Newton was something of a Nazi. Once you accept classical mechanics, you're little better than a Nazi yourself. Are you a Nazi?

>> No.843270

>>842923
sup putin

>> No.843274

>>842904
you could just call it racist and briefly explain why it is racially rather than epistemicly motivated and leave it at that.

>> No.843330

>>843274

Not the guy you're responding to here, but Khmer Rouge race ideology is not something you can test for repeatable evidence, at least without having to adapt to a set of clauses determined by the people you're trying to understand ("adapting" usually meant not wanting to die at the end of a shovel). This isn't science.

Newton is easy: you can do his experiments in your backyard which match his own results, and his theories have proven useful in space navigation. Haven't read any feyerabend, but he seems to imply that such a thing shouldn't exist.

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>> No.843350

>>843330
i know i know. just poking fun at using phil of sci to criticize the epistemological basis of a racial doctrine.

>> No.843362

he could argue black is white

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>> No.843384

fucking relativists, historical narratives are not the same as fictional narratives, the only good you do is undermine mans veridical aspirations

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