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>Thucydides and perhaps Machiavelli's Principe are most closely related to me owing to the absolute determination which they show of refusing to deceive themselves and of seeing reason in reality – not in "rationality," and still less in "morality." There is no more radical cure than Thucydides for the lamentably rose-coloured idealisation of the Greeks... His writings must be carefully studied line by line, and his unuttered thoughts must be read as distinctly as what he actually says. There are few thinkers so rich in unuttered thoughts... Thucydides is the great summing up, the final manifestation of that strong, severe positivism which lay in the instincts of the ancient Hellene. After all, it is courage in the face of reality that distinguishes such natures as Thucydides from Plato: Plato is a coward in the face of reality – consequently he takes refuge in the ideal: Thucydides is a master of himself – consequently he is able to master life.

Holy shit, Platonists BTFO
How will they ever recover?

>> No.8414196

>>8414190
In short: They are redpilled and might makes right while platonists are libcucks who deny reality and life

>> No.8414932
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8414932

>>8414190
Holy fuck, Nietzsche was a savage.

>> No.8414958

>>8414196
>implying that Thucydides endorses the Athenian position in the Median Dialogue

Hey anon, what's the next great military operation the Athenians attempt after subjugating Melos? And how does it work out for them?

>> No.8415731

>>8414932
Damn, who is he gonna shoot?

>> No.8415768

Thucydides isn't even worthy to shine Plato's shoes.