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What schools produce the most literate students and is Yale still an elite school?

>> No.8400007

I HATE AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.8400016

Same question but Oxbridge.

>> No.8400019

none, you just have to read books

>> No.8400022 [DELETED] 

>nigger communists ruining schools
get it together americans

>> No.8400029

>>8400005
You'd have to understand the Yale style of teaching to get why they cover such topics. I guess that requires some sort of contact with it.

That's quite large class tho.

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>>8400029

>> No.8400037

>>8400029
What do you know about Yale professors? How and why does their teaching style impact the course content?

>> No.8400043

>>8400032
Wow.

>> No.8400055

>>8400037
Yale is much more based on discussion. They aren't just going to take notes on what Deray thinks about looting, they'll discuss and argue. And of course a big part of that is arguing seemingly obvious issues that actually aren't so obvious.

>> No.8400062

>>8400029

Only someone intelligent enough to be accepted to such a brainwashing institute and simultaneously retarded to go there would ever utter something like that. Obviously it's a troll but still.

>> No.8400070

>>8400055

If I want to discuss obvious issues with annoying retards I can just head over to the vegan café across the street...

>> No.8400072

>>8400055
Looting seems unjustifiable unless you subscribe to some edgy ideology like anarchy.

>> No.8400075

>>8400072

Or >>8400032 lmao

>> No.8400081
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8400081

if you're decent at rhetoric you can completely control tutorial discussions
I suggested that Schindler's List was part of a wider Jewish conspiracy and got commended for it

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>>8400005
>being rich enough for ivy league
>having the grades to get in during highschool
fucking nerds

>> No.8400086

>>8400032
>hard-won
I guess you say that's true if you have to brave a hail of roof Korean bullets to get your loot, otherwise, no.

>> No.8400088

>>8400081

Any tips on books for becoming a master rhetorician like you?

>> No.8400094

>>8400070
But yet you still can't get into Yale. Isn't life weird and also unfair.

>>8400072
Not the whole picture, but as far as you're right, it's useful to be able to argue to people with different beliefs/value systems/ideologies to yourself.

The question of looting is quite interesting too since most common law places take into account motive/belief. In a lot of circumstances it isn't stealing if you didn't think it was stealing.

>> No.8400100

>>8400086

Niggers only do high risk high reward stuff, but high risk != hard.

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>>8400032
I have no sympathy for these black lives matter retards as long as they allow themselves to be led by these commies. Maybe try not committing crimes rather than arguing that they are actually moral and brave if you don't want to be put down.

>> No.8400104

>>8400094

Lmao I probably could get into Yale if I wanted to (I have the grades, references and I'm not half-bad at selling myself), but why would I want to?

>> No.8400112

>>8400088
it's mostly practice
choose an opinion you know would be unacceptable to say out loud and try to find a way to express it without actually saying it
when it comes to debate it may sound generic but the Platonic dialogues are great tbqh (the key is that your opponent should arrive at the point through dialect, as opposed to you trying to convince them)

>> No.8400117

>>8400112

hm, it's the part where you find the way of expressing it without saying it that's tricky. How did you sell the Jewish conspiracy to them, for example?

>> No.8400119

>>8400094
>But yet you still can't get into Yale. Isn't life weird and also unfair.
"But yet" I did...

>> No.8400123

>>8400104
>and I'm not half-bad at selling myself
They kicked out all the admissions staff into rent boys back in the 90s anon ;^)

I mean great for you bro, but if you don't understand why you might want to go I'd suggest taking a tour and asking questions. Top schools have a lot of opportunities but there's little point in pontificating about this to someone such as yourself.

>> No.8400135

>>8400123

lmao if you don't understand why I might not want to go, you might want to consider killing yourself. US unis are literally shit tier, even the ones that rank higher than Oxbridge and ETH are shit in comparison and infested with retards, niggers and SJWs (not that the differentiation is really necessary). Of course the postgrad stuff might be good, but unless you are some parvenu looking to make your way quickly there is zero point.

>> No.8400161

>>8400135
>even the ones that rank higher than Oxbridge
I'm Oxon bro. Don't try that "UK is just better" bs. There are issues in "Oxbridge" just as there are elsewhere. But "Oxbridge and above" are all going to be great unis where you can learn a lot and do a lot.

>> No.8400167

>>8400161

True. Would you like to elaborate on your problems? Is the pleb intake as bad as in the states?

>> No.8400183

>>8400117
I basically said that Schindler's List was made so that Jews could control the Holocaust narrative
on its own that sounds sort of anti-semitic but I made sure to mention that other groups that I don't care about were also affected and those groups are being excluded (make sure to use the lingo of your opponent) from the narrative

>> No.8400206

Australian National University goes quite well, primarily a research uni so small student base and lots of intelligent knowledgeable staff

>> No.8400209

>>8400206
ANU is full of drama kiddies

>> No.8400213

>>8400167
I think you just have a chip on your shoulder bro.

Where Oxford really falls down is the social side. Much of the social shit is just to push class divide shit. And in some ways the atmosphere is too coddling I guess.

>> No.8400221

>>8400183
That's true tho. It also helps that Schindler's list is a shit film.

>> No.8400232

>>8400032
Hobbes said the exact same thing in the Leviathan.

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>>8400221
I didn't even watch the film

>> No.8400237

>>8400209
Nah it's pretty evenly divided between STEM students (lots of funding bc blessed schmitt) and wannabe politicians, at least they study philosophy and economics as requirements for their degree so they aren't fully retarded.

>> No.8400243

I just watch the open courses on Yale's youtube channel for free, I followed the ones on ancient Greek history, listening to music and political philosophy.

>> No.8400244

>>8400213

>Much of the social shit is just to push class divide shit

I ask about problems and you mention something great. Might have to apply now, even. Are you speaking about money or culture class, though? I can't stand new money plebs...

>> No.8400249

Does any university provide an atmosphere similar to the beat period while maintaining academic integrity and intensity ?

>> No.8400252

>>8400244
Go and find out yourself ;^)

>> No.8400254

>>8400249

>atmosphere similar to the beat period

Why in the fuck would you ever want that...

>> No.8400255

>>8400249

Go to brown you hippie

>> No.8400260

>>8400213

Oxford here. Would agree. It is also dispiritingly leftist. I've also found that 'academic debate' here is severely limited and that the institution genuinely looks down on other universities - this fosters an insularity that seems to go against everything the senior academics here claim international scholarship is about.

Only got a year left, looking forward to getting out desu.

>> No.8400263

>>8400249
Probably some of the French ones.

Some friends from Germany had university lives you might enjoy. They lived in a weird converted flat in a clocktower and partied and shot the shit a lot.

>> No.8400268

>>8400244

If he is actually at Oxford, he is probably referring to the way the JCRs, MCRs and OUSU try desperately to be working-class heroes, that money and privilege are things to be ashamed of.

It's an SJW heaven here m8. Get past the beautiful old buildings - the window dressing - and you could be in any former polytechnic to be honest.

>> No.8400271

>>8400254
Eccentric writers and poets + drugs of all sorts sounds like a good combination to me. Would be fun to hang around for a while.

>> No.8400274

>>8400268

Hm I didn't know that the polytechnics were SJW heavens.... But thanks for the info m8. Is Cambridge identical?

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>>8400032
>never see an educated negro
>only see violent criminal negros who loot and tweet and tweet about looting all day
>always assume negros would would stop being retard tweeting looter criminals if they were educated
>always assume that racists are just assholes who want to assign a reductivist biological cause to a more subtle economic and social problem
>negro attains an education
>"Ah yes, you see, the transcendental moral imperative of the Negroid is quite indeedily to loot, for looting is sanctioned by the economic bondage of the Negroid vis-a-vis the white man, ergo, apropos, bix nood mufugga. Allow me to cite @Tayquanda on Twitter on the subject of twerking.."

>> No.8400280

>>8400255

Can't tell if you're being ironic

>> No.8400281

>>8400032
>"But why is it bad to grab an opportunity to improve well-being"

I sure hope they don't complain when someone protects their own well-being by bifurcating their brain with a hollow point.

>> No.8400311

>>8400275
Top zozzle. Good post lad.

>> No.8400332

>>8400274

Have never been, only been at Oxford, so couldn't say first hand.

>> No.8400361

>>8400022
>Deray
>Communist

He's like the embodiment of neoliberalism. Politicians and large donors love him.

>> No.8400371

>>8400032
Sounds agreeable, too bad they make it about race and not class though. They're part of the diversion that way, filthy liberals.

>> No.8400376

>>8400371
communists need to be put down
not because you're dangerous you just shit me with these roleplay fantasies

>> No.8400379

>>8400376
Are you saying class divisions aren't real, mate?

>> No.8400387

>>8400379
that's now what I'm saying

>> No.8400390

>>8400379
Are you saying class is artificial?

>> No.8400395

>>8400387
*not
I'm just saying your ilk is annoying (I like being annoyed though)

>> No.8400409

>>8400390
Artificiality/non-artificiality is a false dichotomy desu

>> No.8400450

>>8400409
Not at all. For instance, that very claim is artificial and is used to attack the very real and non-artificial reasons for class division.

>> No.8401222

>>8400032
This stuff makes me racist.

>> No.8401256

>In modern pedagogy, dunce caps are extremely rare.

>> No.8401330

>Yale’s charm had not only worn away at last but also was revealing now the toxic layers beneath, as Kit came to understand how little the place was about studying and learning, much less finding a transcendent world in imaginaries or vectors

>revealing Yale to be no more really than a sort of highhat technical school for learning to be a Yale Man, if not indeed a factory for turning out Yale Men, gentlemen but no scholars except inadvertently, and that was about it.

>> No.8401350

>>8400032
IMMORAL IMMORAL

NOT AMORAL

FUUUUUCKKKIIINNNG NNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiii NNNNNNIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii---- NNNNNNNNNNNNNN IIIIIIIIIIII GHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-------

>> No.8401351

>>8400032
>american blacks defend criminality

Your country is insane.

>> No.8401357

>>8401351
Their safe zone to do whatever they want will be removed as soon as it's expedient to the political classes

>> No.8401368

>>8400032
>implying he's wrong.

>> No.8401463

>>8401357
I dont get it. They hate to be stereotyped but have a class DEFENDING their negative association and right to be a criminal? How is this education? How does it prepare these kids for a future?

>> No.8401505

>>8400043
>>8400101
& co.
>Taking the bait this hard.

>>8400275
>/pol/ attempts recruitment.
Cringed.

Anyone who ascribes to "racial realism" is either stupid or ignorant. Anyone who buys into the statistics and charts /pol/ throws around needs to brush up on statistical analysis. Educate yourself on the realities of racism and poverty before you speak again. Now get the fuck off my board.

>> No.8401507

>>8400032
They hate Western civilisation but yet enjoy the fruits of it? Life isn't good in a country without the rule of law, democracy and private property rights.

It's strange to think that if you are the descendant of an African living on the west coast you would hope that he be taken into slavery as you will have a much higher standard of living for it.

>> No.8401514

>>8400135
>if you don't understand why I might not want to go, you might want to consider killing yourself

No, you don't have the option. Guaranteed you couldn't cut it. Just look at your rhetoric.

>> No.8401517

>>8400260
Didn't they cancel a debate on abortion because both speakers were male?

I always wanted to go to Oxford but I applied for Cambridge but got rejected as I knew fuck all about economics aside from the fact that I wanted to do it.

>> No.8401522

>>8401507
They don't hate western civilisation. If they did, they wouldn't live here. They hate how there people are treated on an individual and institutional level.

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>>8401505
what's wrong with this image

>> No.8401528

>>8400260
What do you study?

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>>8400104

>> No.8401545

>>8401522
>They hate how there people are treated on an individual and institutional level
But clearly not enough to live elsewhere, right? I mean for all their bitching this is clearly a better option than anywhere else, or they'd just move. It's not really any different than petulant gamers who complain about the dev company being exploitative and lazy yet they still play the game and even pay money for micro transactions.

>> No.8401552

>>8400104
Even if you could you never would, because it'd create a risk of failure which would prove you're not as smart as you think you are. Safer for your ego to remain an "unconventional" intellect who never has to actually prove himself to anybody.

>> No.8401554

>>8401350
this almost gave an aneurysm

>> No.8401558

>>8400032
>not even arguing that its not immoral
>its not even AMORAL

And people wonder why I am dedicated to being perpetually and enthusiastically suicidal

>> No.8401591

>>8401545
I like that you compare the cries of gamers to RACISM that impacts people lives in huge ways.

>> No.8401599

>>8401505
Here's a reality for you: stores are not magic goods factories, and looting them is not a victimless crime. You are destroying and thieving the property of other people and harming their livelihood. This destructive behavior actually ends up coming full circle to harm the blacks when these businesses end up closing or moving to other areas. As a result the black neighborhoods become poorer. For reference, see Detroit and black areas in LA or even more recently Ferguson, which is still reeling from the looting even 2 years later. In fact the city is facing bankruptcy.

Tell me again about the morality of looting.

>> No.8401608

>>8401591
>RACISM that impacts people lives in huge ways
Reading mean comments on twitter is hardly a big impact and that's about the extent of most Yale students exposure to "racism" beyond whatever imagined slights they see in their white peers' everyday behavior. People who live in ghettos experience real prejudice every day, and that includes the white people who live in the slums as well as black, yet you'll never hear an ivory tower liberal acknowledge it because they've never set one foot outside their safe space in upper middle class America.

>> No.8401650

>>8400274

Not the same anon, but also studying at oxford.

It always baffles me how the the USA posters on this board are able to 'pierce the veil of Ivy league branding' and see these overrated universities for what they 'really' are: finishing schools for the elite and hives for sjws etc. If you're able to make this argument against the still reputable universities of the USA, why do so many still subscribe, wholesale, to the Oxbridge aristocratic higher learning image? For the same reasons that people are dismissing Yale, why wouldn't the social compositon/dynamic be any different at a top UK university?

'Progressivism' isn't a phenomenon of the USA alone. By this boards (and the cross posting /pol/lacks) own arguments, it's the European youth who are the forerunners of this mentality. Is it therefore any suprise that European, and thus Oxbridge, universities will be full of this archetype?

This bizarre romanticisation of oxbridge needs to die.

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>>8400005
Daily reminder Cultural Marxism is real and is a plot to make the West satanic.

http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/holiness-sin-freud-frankfurt-school-and-kabbalah

http://henrymakow.com/2016/01/Frankfurt-School-is-Illuminati-Jewish-Satanism.html

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>>8400379
Are you saying it is communism to unlawfully acquire wealth?

>> No.8401687

>>8401650
I quite like the romanticisation of Oxford - it isn't as bad as other places. Yeah there's the fair share of OUSU progressives but you get those everywhere. The difference is that Oxford is still seen as 'academic' where it counts (i.e the governing bodies) and don't dismiss heritage as was the case with the Rhodes statue

>> No.8401732

>>8401656
>kabbalah
>is literally a book

>> No.8401799

>>8401656

What does Henry have a PhD in? Taking quotes out of context, misrepresenting the work of the dead, and defaming the dead? He's not even that good at it. He sounds full on crazy.

>> No.8401838

>>8401656
thid must be ironic posting...r-right sempaii?
you couldnt be literally this stupid

>> No.8401853

>>8401505
>Educate yourself on the realities of racism and poverty before you speak again. Now get the fuck off my board.

lmao are roleplaying

>> No.8401865

>>8401507

The fruits of Western civilization were won off the backs of their ancestors. If you're mad that someone is claiming ownership of a piece of an exploitative history made consumable then you're missing the point wholesale.

>> No.8401886

>>8401599
I'm not arguing for looting. I'm simply calling you out for falling for bait.

>>8401526
To start with, the numbers in that graph are wrong. Go do the math yourself if you don't believe me. It's true that black on black crime is proportionally higher than white on white, but not to that extent. That said, the common mistake people make when they see a graph like that is in assuming that race is the only variable involved. Statistical analysis requires controlling for other variables like, for instance, poverty status or residence in metropolitan areas, that can skew the data in certain ways. I took a look at the FBI's reported crime statistics but didn't see any data on the socio-economic status of victims or perpetrators. Without looking at the full picture it's pointless to draw conclusions from statistics like that. Moreover, statistical analysis does not draw proper lines between cause and effect. Even if socio-economic status had nothing to do with crime, it still would not be clear that race is the primary factor here. The basic takeaway from this is that statistics is more complicated than it looks and easily misunderstood.

>> No.8401910

>>8401886
>The numbers in a graph relaying the race of crime perpetrators and victims are wrong.

You never substantiate this accusation further in the post, so I'm guessing what you meant is:
>Actually, they fail to depict social factors while measuring race. This is all about social factors! Statistics is very complicated and we need to take more things into account!

The graph isn't intended to take social factors into account. It's not an article or policy statement. It's a graph of a factor. To get accurate statistics, you have to isolate factors before considering their mutual interaction.

The rest of your post just dissolves into "it's.. it's complicated!" OK. No one said it wasn't. Regardless, the stats are correct.

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8401964

I think this thread is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back on me leaving /lit/. So on that note - does anyone know of any alternatives that aren't yet populated by ex-/pol/ and arrogant teenagers?

>> No.8401965

>>8401910
I think you misunderstand me. Did you even read what I wrote beyond the first and last sentences? All you did was rephrase what I just said. I'm arguing against the conclusion that black people are biologically inferior to white people. I said that in order to draw a useful conclusion from statistical data you have to take into account all relevant variables. I gather that you understand that. Now do you have anything to add or is that it?

>> No.8401978

>>8401964
I've seen plenty of other threads like this, so I don't know why this is the last straw. I'd suggest growing a backbone, but eh. Just google "online literature community" or something.

>> No.8401983

>>8401965
>I'm arguing against the conclusion that black people are biologically inferior to white people
so post some evidence?

>> No.8401984

>>8400275
That's just Americans lad.

>> No.8401991

>>8401965
>I'm arguing against the conclusion that black people are biologically inferior to white people.

Damn, I'm not the guy you're replying to, but holy shit did that line come out of nowhere. That was not your argument, nor was that a part of any party's argument, you're just backing up on yourself because you have no defense for a factor that you don't like to engage with, a factor that's disproportionate to the other variables that you could try to control for but won't (and universities won't either) because it goes against your ideology. There is a culture of violence among blacks. Look at the music they produce. Look at the role models they aspire to. Sure, they're poor, but they're poor and disproportionately criminal compared to other poor people.

t. a poor white who attended a school recently desegregated in the American south and played on an all-black football team.

RIP "Chubs" Davis, an O-lineman who graduated a year before me, shot in the chest with a shotgun while committing an armed robbery on a crack house.

>> No.8401995

>>8401656
Holy shit this is the most retarded analysis of Benjamin I've ever read.

For first, he was never a practicing kabbalist or any of that shit, taking judaism and it's writings as metatools for his analysis of revolutionary thought. When he says he wants them to become "evil", what he's saying is that the working classes must reach class consciousness to see that in the world they're being sold lies the root of their destruction, in realizing that the forces of "progress" and the frontiers of "nation" are non-entities filled with propaganda.

Fuck /pol/ holy fucking shit.

>> No.8402009

>>8400022
>Everyone I don't like is a communist
Thanks McCarthy

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There are people on 4chan RIGHT NOW who will actually criticize looting and plunder, or burning down a village so you have light to fight by.

>> No.8402055

>>8401886
>To start with, the numbers in that graph are wrong.

No, the source is listed at the bottom. I checked it. It is a graph of exactly what the graph is titled.

>LALALA UR WRONG IM RIGHT

I didn't read the rest of your post. Try again, loser.

>> No.8402064

>>8402043
I bet they don't even salt the fields to leave them barren forevermore

>> No.8402067 [DELETED] 

>>8402043
nigga they's a difference between my good ol boys plundering and raping the niggas on the other block creating history, and Jamal getting his 'rillos and Takis from a QuikTrip. I glorify one and demonize the other. If you can't understand this, you can't understand much of the problems with liberalism at large.

>> No.8402084

>>8401463
>implying they're a monolithic mass
shiggity

>> No.8402111

>>8401865


>The fruits of Western civilization were won off the backs of their ancestors.

That's bullshit. Europe was already light years ahead of Africa in the Middle Ages. Most of the 'fruits of Western civilization' were cultivated in the library and the cloister, not a plantation. What made the West such a peaceful, prosperous place was a set of ideas and cultural attitudes.

>> No.8402143

>>8401507
>rule of law, democracy and private property rights.

spook'd tfo

fuck I thought we were all annys around here

>> No.8402158

>>8402143

No but I would be happy to fuck your annys like the nationalists did in Barcelona in '39.

>> No.8402164

>>8401222
well if it helps at all, that was written by a Jew, not a black person.

>> No.8402189

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bf4r4VQRhlc

>> No.8402234

>>8401350
Morals = choice between right and wrong
Amoral = lack of a right and wrong
Immoral = ill defined choices

,can you believe that looting is{ a lack of right and wrong} in its self.
Lol no one is amoral
These are Yale students fuckin lol

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>>8402189
>tfw no fat yale prof to sit on your face while eating fried chicken and telling you about your privilege

>> No.8402277

>>8400032
Are we inherently stupid if we don't agree with him? Do you think his opinion is more well-reasoned because he went to Yale? Does this discredit criticisms of BLM?

>> No.8402284

>>8402277
No
No
No

Why revive the bait anon?

>> No.8402392

>>8400005
Columbia though

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>>8402067
>when whites loot it's right
>when blacks loot they are thieving animals
Got it loud and clear.

>> No.8402492

looking from multinational corporations that exploit their workers is noble. i mean, as long as no one is harmed while the store is being looted. beating up a security guard who is no more better off than you are so you can have a bigger television is wrong.

>> No.8402523

>>8402461
Well you've got it right, but I have a feeling you aren't being sincere.

>> No.8402535

>>8400032
He's right though

>> No.8402539

>>8400281
>taking something is the exact same as killing someone

whew lad

>> No.8402548

>going to college
>being succesful
enjoy your boring life
who /flipping burgers 4ever/ here?

>> No.8402554

illegalism desu

>> No.8402555

>>8402548
>go to community college for 8 years
>finally transfer to university
>get disqualified for falling below 2.0 gpa in two consecutive semesters
>tell myself and my parents i'm writing a screenplay when i haven't actually put any ideas on paper

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>>8400032
I keep hearing these BLM chapters are cryptocommunists from people who snuck into meeting. Is that true?

>> No.8402569

>>8402563
the entire civil rights movement has been communist-led since the 50s.

Doesn't mean civil rights are bad, but in America, they've been pushed by communists.

>> No.8402582

>>8402569
BLM isn't exactly a civil rights movement unless you consider the decriminalization of drugs a civil rights issue, which I could see.

>> No.8402586

>they still think liberals and communists are the same thing

>> No.8402597

>>8402523
Look at the pic, I'm sincere where you need to fuck off to.

Should the world come together and beat the shit out of any white Americans because you guys looted (is still looting) the "sandbox"?

Fuck off, your white supremacy follows do more harm than thieving negros.
>>>/pol/

>> No.8402601

regardless of whether you think black culture is violent or not, it's obvious to this new generation that popular media is dominated by black icons and expression. see kendrick lamar's grammy performance (vimeo com 156180581) involving an all black cast dancing in prison garb and chains transitioning to tribal body paint surrounded by flames. very intense and politically expressive. can you imagine any other minority group sending off such an explosive message to resounding applause? chinese acting out the virtues of scholarship or mexicans singing the praises of family tradition? the black message strikes now at the very conscience of all americans. it is inescapable especially here on the internet.

take a walk around yale or harvard my alma mater. black students performing sit-ins right NOW will rewrite policy as adults. a national conversation on reparations will rise to the chopping block soon, very soon. there may be violence for decades to come. such a future alas would be indicative of the advance of black culture on america.

>> No.8402602

>>8402492
But you haven't actually harmed the multinational corporation all you have done is harm the workers at that particular location.

>> No.8402608

>>8402586
Liberal fiscal policy tends to incorporate super(super) moderate steps towards socialism. I mean redistribution of wealth via taxation and social programs. A far cry, but it's there.

>> No.8402612

>>8402601
America won't exist in 40 years

>> No.8402621

>>8402612
t. increasingly nervous man with 50 water filters

>> No.8402625

>>8402621
the Alex Jones/Trump crowd desperately cling to the ideal of a unified America though

>> No.8402637

All 'elite' schools promote extreme stupidity
>>8402234
>no one is amoral
Atheists are

>> No.8402643

>Trump attacks 20-30% of the population
>united
>nationalist

people I ironically believe this>>8402625

>> No.8402644
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>>8402601
I wonder what would happen if an unapologetic bastion of purely white culture were ever to rear its head again. Sort of a modern day William F. Buckley (yes I know he was a Jew). What would the reaction be?

>> No.8402645

>>8402643
*unironically

>> No.8402647
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8402647

When can we get a pol equivalent like we used to have in the old days were you could argue with people earnestly, and theorycraft conspiracies for fun without memery, and nazi circlejerking?

>> No.8402651

>>8402643
unified in the sense that it remains the United States
>>8402644
Buckley is what has led to the pathetic state of the right though

>> No.8402665

>>8402644
i honestly believe that the 'pussification' of white males is one of the first emergent psychological symptoms to result from the collective trauma of 9/11. harry potter may also be a contributing factor.

>> No.8402677

>>8402665
But w bush (better yet Cheney) did 9/11, so does that mean that the American government itself wants to pussify it's youths?

I mean they are already dumping estrogen in the waters and turning males into walking wanton onaholes.

>> No.8402683

>>8402677
Remember, friends, if you feel a bit paunchy and pussified, get on some estrogen blockers/free testosterone enhancers. You can find them at most reputable supplement stores. Do it now.

>> No.8402686

>>8402665
it was long before that
it's not so much a pussification as the result of decades of nihilism and materialism

>> No.8402697

>>8402683
doesn't estrogen serve a purpose in the male body though?

>> No.8403743

>>8402683
How healthy is this?

>> No.8403802

Two truths:

- Adorno saw unchecked capitalism as the harbinger of cultural degeneracy, by necessity lowering the intellectual and artistic heights of western civilization to a sort of lowest common denominator commercial pablum absent of morality. He admired Spengler, and was trying to find a way to prevent the decline of the west by increasing the liberty and education of the lower classes. /pol/ has drastically misconstrued the goals of the Frankfurt school, which are actually largely in line with their own, and has inaccurately pointed to them as the source of the über PC culture of the contemporary west.

- Said PC culture is the result of the capitalist, globalist corporate-banking interests that have won the culture war without anyone noticing. It's designed to pit people against one another on petty bases like race and gender and whatnot, keeping the plebs in a constant state of discomfort with each other, while the elite class goes unopposed. Schools and media outlets funded by international masters foster the idea that people are fundamentally incompatible due to the differences in experience they have had. Whites must fear the Muslims, blacks must fear the whites, women must fear the misogynists, bogeymen, bogeymen, bogeymen. Fear, fear, fear. And the "right-wing" and "left-wing" elites engage the public in the same way, because they are the same.

>> No.8403829

>>8400032
Can't take the jungle out of the monkey desu

>> No.8403849

>>8402637

Atheists retain a sense of right and wrong, it simply isn't defined by their religion.

>> No.8403859

>>8403802
wonderful

>> No.8403879

>>8400032
I hope this is a prompt for discussion and not an actual argument.

>> No.8403901

>>8403849
Atheists retain a sense of right and wrong the same way that someone living off a trustfund retains an income.

>> No.8403916

>>8403849
Spooky

>> No.8403950

I'm thinking of going to uni as a mature student someday and well, how is UCL?

>> No.8404286

>>8403802
SJW conspiracy of the The Franfurk School only exists because of american academics. They misread and implemented their american geist into Critical Theory and allowed capitalism to subvert CT into it's own dialectic.

Marcuse is evil though, like an actual theorist of degeneracy and a CIA operative.

>> No.8404309

>>8404286
>like an actual theorist of degeneracy
true and should be known by all. but this is way more common than people believe and has been going on forever. cutting human progress off at the knees is way older than cultural marxism, nor does it assume a political form.

>> No.8404812

>>8401552

I already got admitted to a top ten engineering school in Europe, Yale is not even top ten.

>> No.8404817

>>8404812
>top 10 engineering school in europe

lmao @ your life

yale BTFOs whatever pathetic school you're at

>> No.8404825

>>8404817

Anally devastated Yale-nigger detected kek. Doesn't look like your shitty school blows much at all out of the one I got admitted to according to THE :^}

>> No.8404833

>>8404825
didnt go to yale friendo. visited there for a weekend once.

eurocucks can't accept that HYPS, MIT, etc. completely destroys anything except Oxbridge in terms of reputation and global recognition.

>> No.8404844

>>8404833

*PS. Not gonna argue about MIT, either, but the school in question actually ranks higher than Harvard for engineering and Yale overall (that's more than enough info for you to figure out which one it is).

>> No.8404871

>>8400104
>I could get in b-but I just don't want to!
top fucking kek

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If any of you think this kind of thing is a recent development then you're wrong.

>> No.8404910

>>8404844
>my school ranks higher than harvard for engineering
>harvard doesn't have an engineering school

GEE I WONDER WHY

>> No.8404917

>>8404910
actually it does but it's not what people think of when they think "harvard"

so while i agree with your point you're still wrong :^)

>>8404844
rankings dont matter, i'm talking about prestige and recognition

>> No.8405121

>>8404917

And I'm talking about how good you will be and how much money you will make after graduating.

>> No.8405127

>>8405121
in which case HYPS completely dominates every european school not named oxbridge famalam

>> No.8405135

>>8405127

Not every, there are two exceptions.

>> No.8405146

>>8400032
>amoral used instead of immoral
jesus christ

>> No.8405182

>>8403901
>>8403901
how did the trustfund come before those who earned it? to remain with your shit analogy

(animals have morals)

>> No.8405192

>>8405135
i know you're trying to get someone to say your school so you can feel self important but protip: no one actually cares

number of people who know harvard/oxbridge/MIT in both Europe and America (and Asia): a shitton
number of people who know crap like ETH: a lot in Europe, zero anywhere else

>> No.8405195

>>8404286
>Marcuse is evil though, like an actual theorist of degeneracy and a CIA operative.

Marcuse is horrible, he ruined the Frankfurt School and CT with his New World of Happiness shit. Adorno, Benjamin and others were trying to preserve culture, while Marcuse wanted to destroy it completely. His foundational work with the New Left is the overwhelming reason the Frankfurt School is "cultural Marxism" and an evil Jewish conspiracy in the eyes of conservatives.

>> No.8405214

>>8401964
yeah, this place has been vanquished
gimme recs of new places to spread the red pill

>> No.8405255

Am student at one of the better Ivies (not Cornell, not Brown. Ama :^)

>> No.8405264

>>8405255
hows dartmouth treating you?

>> No.8405610

>>8402539
>Not wanting to protect your property

>> No.8405689

>>8403802
good fucking post

t. nazi

>> No.8405847

>>8400019
This

>> No.8406027

>>8403802
Having lived among Muslims I have empirically found out that they are truly horrible people that should be wiped out to be honest.

You can't get along with cunts unless you're a cunt.

>> No.8406102

>>8403849
No they don't, because 'right and wrong' is defined by God.

>> No.8406107

>>8406102
Which God exactly?

>> No.8406113

>>8406107
Doesn't matter, as long as it's the 'almighty' and original God of any religion or an arbiter god, then it works.

>> No.8406114

>>8400032
Kek

>> No.8406129

>>8405264

Summer camp doesn't sound too bad, but I'm more of a city dude

>> No.8406134

>>8406113
Unless every "almighty" God across religions retains the same ethical values you're conceding that "right" and "wrong" are subjective concepts which would leave an atheists moral values on equal footing with the religious man's.

>> No.8406138

>>8406134
Not at all.

>> No.8406140

>>8403901
https://www.amazon.com/Genealogy-Morals-Penguin-Classics/dp/0141195371/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1471396747&sr=8-3&keywords=Genealogy+of+Morals

>> No.8406154

>>8406138
Oh, okay, my mistake then.