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>absence of social strife
>cool aesthetic
>beer, fags and football for the proles
>Winston ends the book happy
>the joy of unconditional love from Big Brother

Explain how this isn't a utopia

>> No.8393222

It's not real for a start.

>> No.8393231
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>>8393222

>real

>> No.8393243

>>8393181
>society rules by fear
>utopia

Also, you disregard the possibility if a state of false happiness

>> No.8393244
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8393244

1984 is full of pain, the proles aren't happy in a utopia sense as their lives are still painful. the upper classes life meagre lives, I expect many are as unhappy as winston finds himself

If you want to talk about disguised utopias, We and BNW are a good start.

also "cool aesthetic" isn't a reason you dingus

>> No.8393248

>>8393231
Come back when you actually understand stirner please.

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>>8393248

>understand

>> No.8393267

It's not sustainable.

>> No.8393506

>>8393244
>Bnw
>Hidden utopia
Just no

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>>8393244
>"cool aesthetic" isn't a reason you dingus

>> No.8393567

>>8393181
>ends book happy

After being tortured and returning to society in a lucid and indifferent state.

Winston wouldnt even pass the captcha F A M...

>> No.8395025

I just finished to watch a movie called "equilibrium". Its the same as 1984. I really like that book. Movie its ok to.

>> No.8395034

>no heartache
>no thousand natural shocks the flesh is heir to
>no whips and scorns of time
>no oppressor's wrong
>no proud man's contumely
>no pangs of despised love
>no law's delay
>no insolence of office
>no spurns that patient merit of the unworthy takes

Explain how this isn't a utopia.

>> No.8395065

What would be in your room 101 /lit/?

>> No.8395365

The term "utopia" is meaningless and unhelpful, since the idea of a "utopia" is subjective based on your values.

>> No.8395367

My big brother loves me very much. very very much.

>> No.8395394

>>8395065
Cucks

>> No.8395407

>>8393181

are you proud of yourself for making such a shit thread?

>cool aesthetic
>intelligent or dumb all are the same
>"happy"
>love

holy shit.

>> No.8395424

>>8393181

>poor as fuck, cant even buy a razorblade
>unable to question authority in any way
>information blatantly falsified
>ressources wasted
>2 minutes hate garbage

they are docile and castrated sheeps not working to elevate their nature or quench the will of your soul but to work like ants for big brother. what should be, what our humanity screams for, has been pulled out like roots in the soil. communism didnt work and the 1984 distopia even less. im sure youll be happy if i chemically fuck up your brain too. "happy" yeah. did you even read it? why did you feel the need to even discuss it? isnt it fucking obvious? are you fucking retarded? yes of course you are.

I fucking hate this board I always get mad at fucking shitty threads like this. not even /b/ is capable of such retardation.

>> No.8395595

>needs 2 minutes of hate to channel peoples repressed feelings of despair and anger

yeah no

>> No.8396098

>>8395424
Prolly b8

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1984 is just a shitty rip off of yurope 1

>> No.8397884

>>8393181
>>absence of social strife
Society is in constant strife. Kids sell out their parents, and there is no sex or love

>>cool aesthetic
Literally everybody is ugly and everything is grey

>>beer, fags and football for the proles
For the proles. Nobody cares about the proles

>>Winston ends the book happy
In a way, sure, in the same way that a man who commits suicide is taking control of his life

>>the joy of unconditional love from Big Brother
Big Brother doesn't exist. He's an extension of the state, a state which is solely concerned with the subjugation of the human race and power for its own sake