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Hey /lit/, what books do I need to read in order to have an identity as a "leftist"? I like the general idea of communism and hate capitalism on a visceral level but I'm uneducated!

And I think social issues (abortion, gay marriage, bathrooms) are irrelevant and tools used to distract the masses from issues that effect them.

I find international politics interesting too.

Gimme some literature pls

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>> No.8075384

>>8075369
Yeah you sound like you might make a good Marxist, go read What is to be done by Lenin or smth.

>> No.8075389

>>8075379
Get the penguin edition. Mandels introductions are great.

>> No.8075390

>>8075369
We've been through this before. Automatically hating an ideology because you know nothing about it at a deeper level is the sign of pseudo intellectual. Admitting that you like the general idea of communism is a step in the right direction but you should really read things on capitalism first then communism or vice versa, remove your bias and read them. Then form your opinion.

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Become a national-syndicalist instead, senpai.

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>>8075390

>Admitting that you like the general idea of communism is a step in the right direction

I'm the one who takes those steps.

Commies and fags get stood on.

>> No.8075416

>>8075389
>get another edition of the same book just for the introduction
how about no

>> No.8075438

I don't even get the bathroom debate.

Female bathrooms have stalls. It's not like a men's room where everyone is whipping their shit out and pissing in a trough.

Also, nobody monitors the traffic into the women's room anyway. I've used the ladies' restroom a few times when the men's room was locked. It didn't matter and nobody gave a shit.

Isn't this a non-issue?

>> No.8075443

>>8075369
> I like the general idea of communism and hate capitalism on a visceral level but I'm uneducated!

you're pretty much the average leftist as it is. So congratulations

>> No.8075477

>>8075443
why can't leftists be educated like conservatives?

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>>8075369
>in order to have an identity as a "leftist"

A-are you being ironic? The modern leftist scene SUCKS. Why would you want to chase after an identity like that? Just to be part of the club? We have a word for people like that: posers.

Anyway, I recommend Pierre-Joseph Proudhon's 1840 essay, 'What Is Property' as an entry point for people genuinely interested in understanding the political philosophy of communism. Proudhon was one of the early communists, and his work isn't contaminated by the controlled opposition conspiracy perpetrated by Marx.

>What is Property? by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, 1840
>
>Chapter 1 Method Pursued in this Work. — The Idea of a Revolution
>
>If I were asked to answer the following question: What is slavery? and I should answer in one word, It is murder, my meaning would be understood at once. No extended argument would be required to show that the power to take from a man his thought, his will, his personality, is a power of life and death; and that to enslave a man is to kill him. Why, then, to this other question: What is property! may I not likewise answer, It is robbery, without the certainty of being misunderstood; the second proposition being no other than a transformation of the first?
>
>I undertake to discuss the vital principle of our government and our institutions, property: I am in my right. I may be mistaken in the conclusion which shall result from my investigations: I am in my right. I think best to place the last thought of my book first: still am I in my right.
>
>Such an author teaches that property is a civil right, born of occupation and sanctioned by law; another maintains that it is a natural right, originating in labor, — and both of these doctrines, totally opposed as they may seem, are encouraged and applauded. I contend that neither labor, nor occupation, nor law, can create property; that it is an effect without a cause: am I censurable?
>
>But murmurs arise!
>
>Property is robbery! That is the war-cry of ’93! That is the signal of revolutions!
>
>Reader, calm yourself: I am no agent of discord, no firebrand of sedition. I anticipate history by a few days; I disclose a truth whose development we may try in vain to arrest; I write the preamble of our future constitution. This proposition which seems to you blasphemous — property is robbery — would, if our prejudices allowed us to consider it, be recognized as the lightning-rod to shield us from the coming thunderbolt; but too many interests stand in the way! ... Alas! philosophy will not change the course of events: destiny will fulfill itself regardless of prophecy. Besides, must not justice be done and our education be finished?
~ https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/proudhon/property/

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>>8075477
Because educational institutions are tied up in and dependent on the systems of government and capitalism, and are therefore inherently reactionary. They don't want to teach people the real truth that makes revolutionaries of men.

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>>8075477
>>8075509
>Because educational institutions are tied up in and dependent on the systems of government and capitalism, and are therefore inherently reactionary. They don't want to teach people the real truth that makes revolutionaries of men.

...therefore, we must educate ourselves.
pro-tip: http://deoxy.org/

>> No.8075535

>>8075438
The boogeyman is that clever and ingenuous serial rapists will dress up as women, then when they go into women's bathrooms while chuckling very rapist-like, no one will be able to stop them because righteous onlookers will be too afraid of being called bigots.

Has this ever happened? No. But it will, if you allow transgenders to use the bathrooms of their choice, a conservative would say!

>> No.8075545

>>8075535
Would I even need to dress up as a girl? Couldn't I merely claim I was one?

>> No.8075553

Chomsky is probably the best starting point.

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>>8075369
This one, If you're not a dumb cunt that is

>> No.8075609

>>8075560
>1984
>leftist literature
Top Kek

>> No.8075612

>>8075609
Not my fault Americans distort every European concept.

>> No.8075617

>>8075369
>giving a fuck about the distribution of wealth
money is cancer and no one who matters cares about it, only parvenus, jews, and lower/middle class proles like you

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>>8075369
Joseph Conrad's "Heart Of Darkness" is a powerful literary critique of imperialism. Anti-imperialism a central theme of leftism.

>> No.8075622

carl schmidt - dictatorship

>> No.8075631

Ulysses is a leftist book

Also a real great, quick read for understanding why socialist ideology is the only proper thing to aid those in poverty is Reaching and Teaching Students in Poverty by Paul C Gorski

>> No.8075702

>>8075379
tldr