/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.8066644]

Who is the final boss of philosophy?

Or if not *the* final boss, *your* final boss?

For me, it's pic related.

[Anonymous No.8066653]

>>8066644
The final boss implies that the works of the man you propose as the 'boss' must be overcome in one's life mission so I agree. Schopenhauer is a fine distillation of the sentiment that you must grow out of if you wish to do well in life.

[Anonymous No.8066662]

>>8066653

>Schopenhauer is a fine distillation of the sentiment that you must grow out of if you wish to do well in life.
>Implying his pessimism isn't fundamentally reasonable

[Anonymous No.8066663]

gotta go fast

[Anonymous No.8066675]

>>8066644

>filename

[Anonymous No.8066676]

Probably Plato, since he's basically the accumulation of everything weak and evil

[Anonymous No.8066678]

Max Stirner is the final boss for me in the sense that my life mission is to dig up his smug corpse from his grave in Berlin, place a fedora on his head and take a picture along with a timestamp for /lit/

[Anonymous No.8066679]

Schopenhauer is literally a weak man's Freddy

[Anonymous No.8066689]

>>8066678

[Anonymous No.8066691]

>>8066678
I'd actually support this

[Anonymous No.8066694]

>>8066679

>Freddy

Who?

[Anonymous No.8066698]

[Anonymous No.8066712]

Nietzsche is giving me headaches at the moment.

It might just be a translation, but he seems to write like a madman; or at least, someone who is eccentric/deranged.

It should have been a surprise to no one that he actually went off the deep-end; yet what he writes is coherent, and is making me think about the uncomfortable things that only a few other philosophers have managed.

[Anonymous No.8066718]

>>8066712
It's almost like he lost his mind for the last 11 years of his life.

[Anonymous No.8066719]

>>8066662
It is reasonable, it doesn't mean that one must go past reason in order to live a good life.

[Anonymous No.8066722]

>>8066718

>Implying he wrote during that time

Idiot.

[Anonymous No.8066727]

>>8066663
shit I just looked him up again and there's a fucking Buzzfeed listicle on the CCRU

[Anonymous No.8066735]

You're looking at philosophy entirely the wrong way if you're expecting a "final boss".

[Anonymous No.8066738]

The memes aside, he's irrefutable.

[Anonymous No.8066741]

test

[Anonymous No.8066747]

>>8066735

No, you're looking at philosophy entirely the wrong way.

Go back to your self-help books.

[Anonymous No.8066755]

>>8066738

The memes exist for a reason.

That argument he gives in the Youtube video about torturing the guy to discover the location of the baby locked alone in a car under the baking sun is retard.

Why?

Because "Hard cases make for bad law."

So much of modern bullshit philosophy could be swept away if people only remembered the abounding wisdom to be found in idioms.

[Anonymous No.8066772]

>>8066755
He said torture sometimes can be moral. He didn't say to make it law. Your misreading is your criticism. wew

[Anonymous No.8066793]

>>8066727
Fucking hell. Buzzfeed is basically instructional cancer in that it takes ideas, tows them throw a belt of shit and throws them into the public for mass display

I'm personally not a fan of Land, but some of his ideas are really penetrating and should be appraised and studied more, and Buzzfeed doing this to the CCRU is just fucking him up

[Anonymous No.8066808]

Probably all cultural relativism

Once you can start thinking on things as true or false you are free of the chains again

>mfw people think freedom means having this pussified view of the world where things can be wrong or good depending of who see them

>mfw they don't see the chains of modernity slaving them into the void

[Anonymous No.8066827]

>>8066722
>Implying the two circumstances still aren't related
Baka.

[Anonymous No.8066871]

>any answer other than Hegel

[Anonymous No.8066880]

>>8066871
hourly reminder that hegel was wrong about literally everything

[Anonymous No.8066885]

>>8066880
Like????

[Anonymous No.8066888]

>>8066880
That was part of his point

[Anonymous No.8066972]

>>8066871

[Anonymous No.8067061]

>>8066678
do it faggot

[Anonymous No.8067080]

>>8066678
Max Stirner is one of the least important and least interesting philosophers of the 19th century. (I mean he certainly had some influence, but it's of the sort that is of interest primarily to the intellectual historian.)

How and why did he become a meme on /lit/?

[Anonymous No.8067088]

>>8066747
What the fuck are you even talking about. Thinking there is a final boss is indicitive of a self help reader mentality.

[Anonymous No.8067090]

>>8067080

>Max Stirner is one of the least important and least interesting philosophers of the 19th century.

Alright you philistine, who do you think is the most important/interesting then?

[Anonymous No.8067092]

>>8067080
>How and why did he become a meme on /lit/?

Because his philosophy is 4chans foundational superego attitude

[Anonymous No.8067093]

>>8067088

Still posting here, Deepak?

Stick to selling snake oil.

[Anonymous No.8067107]

>>8067090
Of the 19th century?

It's not going to be that strange or revelatory, but:
Fichte
Hegel
Bolzano
Marx
Nietzsche
Husserl
Brentano
Frege
Kierkegaard
Hermann Cohen
Schlegel
Dilthey

etc

[Anonymous No.8067117]

>>8067107

Trying to exclude Stirner this hard must mean he hit home somewhere.

[Anonymous No.8067121]

>>8067117
name one person on that list who he is more interesting or influential than

[Anonymous No.8067127]

>>8067121

Kierkegaard and Marx.

[Anonymous No.8067135]

>>8067127
Well, certainly not Marx.

[Anonymous No.8067141]

>>8067127
>>8067135
and certainly not Kierkegaard

[Anonymous No.8067142]

>>8066644
CHECKED
Also, that fiename.

[Anonymous No.8067147]

>>8067135

Marx is one of the 'shooting stars' that Schopenhauer talked about.

Anything he said was only relevant to a very brief and specific period of time. Various vested interests have aspired to keep his dated ideology going beyond the Industrial Revolution.

[Anonymous No.8067149]

>>8067092
>misusing terms
no one will take you seriously

[Anonymous No.8067153]

>>8067107
Props for mentioning Bolzano and Brentano. I'd also add Ernst Mach.

[Anonymous No.8067161]

>>8067080

You're right. So 'uninteresting' that your beloved Marx spent page after page shitting himself about the influence would have; thus trying to pre-emptively refute him.

[Anonymous No.8067162]

Nothing will fuck you up as bad as global anti-representationalism.

[Anonymous No.8067171]

>>8067161
I'm not sure why you think you've said anything of significance.

I mean, Wittgenstein had a weird obsession with Otto Weininger, but that doesn't mean Weininger is of any interest whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.8067176]

>>8067171

Now I get it, you're a spook.

[Anonymous No.8067189]

>>8067176
what?

[Anonymous No.8067201]

>>8067127
>Stirner more influential than Marx

All further things you say have been invalidated through sheer retardation.

[Anonymous No.8067209]

>>8067201

We were talking about who is more interesting, not who has more influence.

Obama has had more influence on the world than Kierkegaard/etc. Doesn't make him more interesting.

[Anonymous No.8067216]

>>8067149
Sounds like I understand them better than you mate

[Anonymous No.8068153]

>>8067080

>Max Stirner is one of the least important and least interesting philosophers of the 19th century.

After starting The Ego and Its Own, I'm seriously beginning to doubt whether Nietzsche ever had an original thought in his life.

[Anonymous No.8068171]

Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.8068179]

>>8067080
isn't it because he was the smuggest looking character in a cartoon drawing posted here?

[Anonymous No.8068184]

>>8068179
It was literally drawn by Frederich Engels though so it was infused with clear dialectical understanding of the subjects

[Anonymous No.8068648]

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