/sffg/- Science Fiction and Fantasy General

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/sffg/- Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 13:35:12 No.8054973 [Reply] [Original]

Random Oldfag Edition

Previous thread >>8046540

>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/3v2oXAY.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/

>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ / http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/

Any obscuremaybenotsogreat authors you'd like to share?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 13:40:46 No.8055002 >>8054973 First for Emperor Paul Muad'Dib Atreides, known to the Fremen of Sietch Tabr as Usul.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 13:42:23 No.8055014 >>8054892 >Write what you know, man. Don't write women at all. This is how we end up with Brent Weeks. What do you mean by that, I thought he wrote pretty good women

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 13:42:48 No.8055015
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Just finished pic related. I thought it had some superficial resemblance to Haldeman's Forever War. In this case, a crew of two encounters different versions of the universe after every interstellar transition. Also, sexual mores were brought up every time. Originally written as separate books, it doesn't have the same strength of narrative, but was enjoyable none the less.

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 13:45:06 No.8055023

>>8054973

>Any obscuremaybenotsogreat authors you'd like to share?

I think anyone who likes SFF should check out Michael Swanwick.

>The Iron Dragon's Daughter/The Dragons Of Babel

A refreshing, non-Tolkenian fantasy setting. More ideas and originality in these two books than in all of Sanderson's ouvre.

>Stations Of The Tide

A surreal SF tale. Heavily influenced by Wolfe's Third Head Of Cerberus.

>Bones Of The Earth

Like Jurassic Park/The Lost World except good.

>Dancing With Bears/Chasing The Phoenix

The adventures of a duo of conmen as they travel through a profoundly changed, post-machines uprising Earth. Pulpy, funny, recommended.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 13:46:13 No.8055028 >>8055023 Fifth Head Of Cerberus* Sorry, brain fart.

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 13:50:14 No.8055043

>>8055002
Having "read" Dune through an audiobook, i always thought it was Paul Moardib Atreides, and for some reason always found it funny. Also, i didn't thought it was as good as people said, so i'm debating wether or not i should continue with the rest, since the first one was the best, supposedly.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 13:55:03 No.8055062 >>8055043 If you didn't like the first one don't bother reading on.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:00:47 No.8055080 I, like half of the people on this board, am trying to get more into reading I figured I'd start with something I love, Star Wars, so any recommendations on where to begin with the books?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:02:53 No.8055086 >>8055080 Darth Plagueis

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:04:02 No.8055088 >>8055080 The Darth Bane (yeah, I know) novels are supposedly good.

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:06:35 No.8055091

anyone else here a fan of Delany's scifi work? specifically Stars In My Pocket Like Grains of Sand

I've been a scifi fan all my life but I read Stars... a few times within the past half a year or so and christ it changed my life. Definitely the best scifi text I feel like I've ever read, and a revolutionary use of scifi itself even if you don't buy into the revolutionary politics he puts it to work for

idk, I checked the /lit/ wiki and there was zero mention of it despite it being unlike anything I've ever read before, and really damn good at that.

but that might just be because I wrote so damn much about it this semester. But even his other scifi works don't even come close imo

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:08:08 No.8055096

>>8055043
I loved Dune Messiah even though, despite having read it three times really, I couldn't tell you anything about the plot except for what happens at the very end

I couldn't read Children of Dune for years because I expected I'd hate it, but it actually really surprised me. It might be my favorite despite Dune itself

all the other ones have such cool names I wish God Emperor didn't suck ass

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:09:12 No.8055099

>>8055091
>Stars In My Pocket Like Grains of Sand
This was a favorite read of mine back in my twenties. I used it as proof that SF wasn't a literary wasteland, that innovative stuff was being done in the field and there were voices that the most exacting style-snob couldn't scruple to include in hifalutin' conversations.

Boy, was I wrong.

It's turgid, it's obfuscatory, and it's mutton dressed up as lamb. "Cut through the galaxy's glitter; slice away all night. What thoughts did I dole out to that world (out of the six thousand, which, according to a rumor that had crept worlds and worlds away, corroborrated only by a certain certified psychotic, may have been) destroyed by the XIv?
Certainly I thought about it.
Yet after a week, after a handful of weeks, now at home, now away, somehow the rational part of my mind had accorded it much the weight one gives to the most insubstantial notion."

What the...? Six thousand worlds, or one, destroyed and the thought is insubstantial. I am reminded of the moment I stopped reading Susan Cheever's work, when she described a moment in a character's life as "soft as loss." Loss, soft? Funny, that isn't how I've experienced it. And this farrago, what is the insubstantial notion that the author gives to the possible destruction of a large number of planets? Too big to understand, too hard to grasp entirely, what? But insubstantial?

That's the beginning of chapter four. It's one example of a repeating problem that I see at fifty that I didn't at twenty-five: write lots of words, no one will notice that you're not saying much.

I haven't re-read Dhalgren, Delany's claim-to-fame book, and now I don't think I will. This re-read wasn't a success at all. It's a book I think is second rate, about ideas I think are unoriginal and pretty uninteresting. And that makes me sad.

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:10:09 No.8055100
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>>8054973
This one is fairly decent. Starts on pre-spaceflight earth. Protagonist and other earthpeople abducted by lobstermen.
Lengthy imprisonment, epic escape. Returns with hostages, spacecraft, and potentially friendly alien contact.

Humans reverse engineer ship. Build improved copies of same. Form alliance with other alien race.

Discover the lobster's secret

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:14:58 No.8055113

>>8055099
one answer to the question he poses
'where do you stand to see a world destroyed' or whatever

I think that's a terrifying notion. Especially for an industrial diplomat who sees so many worlds just to leave them again? it seems like the discussion of Fugue just prior on Nepiy sets up Marq as a character who would feel just such a way

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:15:10 No.8055114 >>8055100 There's even a little girl secondary character for pedo-kun. She's a lobster.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:15:30 No.8055115 >>8055080 The Dark Lord Trilogy

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:22:42 No.8055125

>>8055099
I like(d) Delany but he truly descended into his obsessions. Through the valley of the nest of spiders or whatever his last was ... i tried. Gay sex wasnt the deal breaker, but sucking off dogs, eating snot, swallowing pee, pedophilia, every gay guy super well endowed but with a hunger for smegma .... genuinely vomit inducing. I don't know if I can re-read dhalgren or stars in my pockets anymore without having flashbacks of smelly snot eating and piss drinking

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:23:03 No.8055127

Just finished the first two books of the Stormlight Archive. It was pretty good but makes one wonder how he can possibly draw it out to 10 books with thousand pages each. I guess they'll fail at stopping the Desolation in the first 5 book story arc and stop it in the other?
also
Why the fuck did Shallan not remain in Dalinar's camp? Makes no logical sense from the character's standpoint. One of his biggest mistakes in book two
Sadeas was clearly not in Urithiru so what did Adolin kill?
and can't he let the characters he kills stay dead?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:23:49 No.8055130 >>8055127 It's two different sagas akin to Mistborn. First 5 books is one, the next 5 are another.

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:24:29 No.8055133
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>>8054973
>Any obscuremaybenotsogreat authors you'd like to share?
I've mentioned this once or twice, but no one ever says anything in response, so I'm gonna toss out Kieran Shea's Koko series (two books in right now, don't know if there's a third coming.) for some fun

Also, Brett Patton's Mecha Rogue is giant robot anime: the book if that's how you get your sick kicks. It's far from good and in fact, I think the series died after the second book due to poor sales, but there you go.

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:24:45 No.8055136
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>>8054973
>Any obscuremaybenotsogreat authors you'd like to share?

'The Gameplayers of Zan' by M.A. Foster

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2480332.The_Gameplayers_of_Zan

The Gameplayers of Zan (1977) is one of those books where I find myself wondering however anyone could have started from a blank piece of paper and come up with the idea. It’s weird, and it’s alien, and it is a very odd book indeed.

The Ler are an artificially created race, made from human DNA but at the next stable point along the evolutionary chain. (Handwave, handwave.) They have five fingers and two thumbs on each hand, they have a very different reproductive cycle, and they have developed their own initially artificial but very distinct culture. At the time of the novel, 2550, there have been fourteen generations of Ler living on their reservation, reproducing in their own natural way, a hundred thousand of them surrounded by twenty billion humans. Human culture is itself very different from anything we might expect. This is one of the things that makes the book so odd. The Ler are not held up in contrast to humanity as we know it, these humans are harder to identify with than the Ler are, and the Ler are pretty strange. The effect of the book is like taking an immersion course in the alien.

The book plunges us into the Ler from the beginning. There are, oddly, footnotes. It’s like reading a translation. We’re given Ler words and concepts, translated once and then used untranslated. We begin with a Ler girl who knows something (we don’t know what, and it’s one of the central mysteries of the book) who is in a sensory deprivation environment and who chooses to “autoforget” to delete her memories, which Ler can. Then we jump to Fellirian and Morlenden of the Deren braid, the real protagonists, who are asked to search for the missing girl. The question of who she is and what she knew are the hook that lead us through Ler society and Ler interaction with the human world.

http://www.tor.com/2009/05/08/alien-immersion-course-ma-fosters-the-gameplayers-of-zan/

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:28:32 No.8055146 >>8055136 I do like footnotes

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:42:38 No.8055194 >>8055062 I did like it, it just didn't struck me as this masterpiece that everyone hyped it as. >>8055096 Aight, maybe i should keep going.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:45:04 No.8055202 what do you fags think of chia meiville?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:46:40 No.8055205 May be a dumb question. I'm pretty new to reading and enjoy fantasy, are there any books/series I should not read till I am better versed in the genre? Or does something like this matter at all?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:46:49 No.8055207 File: 69 KB, 718x718, 1400080730291.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do post-apocalyptic books like Metro 2033 count as sci-fi?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:47:53 No.8055210 >>8055202 meh

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:50:36 No.8055218

>>8055202
I like him.
>>8055205
Yes and no. There are three different reasons you might want to hold off on a specific work:
>1. If you don't read a lot in general, certain works may be denser and harder to follow, and that includes but isn't limited to fantasy books.
>2. Some works reference common fantasy conventions in order to subvert expectations, so waiting to read them until later may mean you enjoy them more.
>3. If you don't already know for sure that you like fantasy, reading something shitty or just more cryptic may put you off the genre. This doesn't seem likely to be an issue for you.

I might recommend holding off on Wolfe a bit, given that you're kind of new to reading. That's about it, though.

If you want something fun/easy to get into, I recommend the Amber series for fantasy, and the Stainless Steel Rat for sci-fi.

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:54:49 No.8055231

>>8055080
General rules for exploring SW legends novels

1. Aside from Shadows of the Empire, books that focus on movie characters are usually bad. This is ESPECIALLY true of the massive 20-30 book saga that focus on the space orc/zerg hybrids.

2. Short story anthologies are all pretty quality, authors were allowed to be a lot more experimental with them and you don't get as annoyed by the incredibly mediocre prose that characterizes SW novels if you take it in short bursts.

3. Evil characters are generally more interesting than good ones mostly because the books are forced to go a little deeper than the movies in explaining why bad guys are bad to get the reader to believe it. Novels focusing on evil characters, like the Bane trilogy and Plagueis novel are among the best that the universe has to offer.

4. Books set during the Prequel era, and books set during the post-ROTJ era are generally worse than books set before the prequels or during the OT.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 14:57:39 No.8055243 File: 558 KB, 2048x1744, You know You would.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8054973 First for bookchan

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 15:15:44 No.8055299 >>8055218 Thanks for the advice

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 17:04:28 No.8055699 >>8055014 Ignore him, he is the one complaining in the last 3 threads about Brent Weeks having a rape fetish, and there is too much rape in Brent Weeks books. I bet he is a feminist.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 17:11:37 No.8055736 >>8055699 >I bet he is a feminist. You say that like it's a bad thing

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 17:12:18 No.8055743 >>8055136 This looks interesting. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 17:21:35 No.8055781 >She took off her gown and spread her legs >YOUR DUTY AWAITS MY LORD

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 17:23:28 No.8055793 Bravo, Weeks

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 17:50:10 No.8055914
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>>8055127
There are lots of things going on at Roshar, and to tldr the post, there's a fifteen-year 'timeskip' between SA5 and SA6. The back half will also have main characters who are side characters now (Jasnah, Lift, the guy who thinks he is Talenel, etc.)

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 17:51:17 No.8055923 Legend of Korra season 3 end right in the fucking feels

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 17:56:27 No.8055950 >>8055914 Hmm I see. I'm most interested in the guy with tattoos all over his body, collecting information about the spren.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 18:03:23 No.8055974 File: 2.85 MB, 2437x1047, Dinosaurs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8055091 >I've been a scifi fan all my life but I read Stars... a few times within the past half a year or so and christ it changed my life.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 18:06:47 No.8055988 >>8055974 >the wee little babby can't enjoy any books that aren't the Diarrhea Revelations Point and laugh, everybody.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 18:08:57 No.8055999 >>8055974 Why do you keep making charts without Wolfe? He's far more memey than Peake.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 18:36:07 No.8056088 >>8055999 Maybe because he thinks Book of the New Sun is actually good? All his "old charts" are missing wolfe.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 18:42:46 No.8056109 >>8056088 Maybe because Wolfe isn't exactly a really old author, compared to many of the rest.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 19:38:14 No.8056344 >>8054353 Fair enough anon.

Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 20:19:22 No.8056477

>>8054353
If this is true, then what's with this? >>8055974

And why do you freak the fuck out whenever anyone says they like Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser? I love the Lankhmar books, and I'm currently reading The Fifth Season, which came out nine months ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 20:28:56 No.8056505 Oh no what, Kylar Stern died? WTF

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 20:56:15 No.8056601 >>8055914 Didn't someone plagiarize that map for some other fantasy series? I remember seeing some other maps with the same geography.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 21:00:20 No.8056614 >>8056601 oh nvm resurrected again lmao just like in lightbringer with kip

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 21:27:15 No.8056686 I want to write something that will become incredibly popular, stop it half-way, throw the dogs a few filler novellas every three years or so and live off the series for the rest of my diabetes shortened life Any ideas as to how I can do this?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 21:36:00 No.8056724 >>8056614 what?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 21:37:49 No.8056729 >>8056724 gods resurrecting characters after they die

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 21:39:29 No.8056737 >>8056729 what does that have to do with the map?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 21:41:21 No.8056742 >>8056737 i quoted the wrong post

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 22:41:34 No.8056972 >>8056614 .... did you by chance get an ARC of Blood Mirror?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 22:45:17 No.8056989 >>8056972 What?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 22:45:29 No.8056991 File: 1.65 MB, 1956x2329, Modern Fant Recs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] F I R S T I R S T

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 22:50:38 No.8057010 File: 1.92 MB, 1956x2329, 1463347414436.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8056991 First is the worst, second is the best.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 22:52:57 No.8057021 File: 71 KB, 1221x1118, Ri5PZ5z.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8056989 Did you get an ARC(advanced readers copy) of Blood Mirror(the next kip )

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 22:54:50 No.8057028 >>8057010 You're not the improved anon, you're an impostor trying to shill up trolls

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 22:57:05 No.8057039 >>8057021 NDA.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 22:58:47 No.8057048 >>8057039 What? Don't you get a copy with the requirement that you give a fair review?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 23:01:30 No.8057063 >>8057048 Yeah, to the author.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 18, 2016 23:19:04 No.8057114 >>8057048 You're thinking of a review copy, and ARC is about getting feedback from readers during the editing process.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 00:05:11 No.8057252 >>8056686 Have you tried a pen and paper?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 00:29:40 No.8057339 Why is the general dead? Is it finals or something? Glad I finished school.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 00:30:17 No.8057343 >>8057339 I'm a grad student. Finals here were three weeks ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 00:55:21 No.8057426 >>8056686 appeal to the masses or be brilliant. protip: appealing to the masses isn't as easy as you think it is.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 00:58:26 No.8057437 >>8057339 Quarter schools have finals in a month

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 00:58:45 No.8057438 >>8057339 I have an exam in a few hours

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 01:05:31 No.8057458

>>8055923
Not only is Legend of Korra not a book, it's not even the best fantasy cartoon.

Shrek 2 is the funniest movie I have ever seen. Literally one of the funniest comedies of all time. It has incredible pacing and dialogue. The reference jokes are actually funny. The surreal world was so modern fantasy it actually worked. The bar of villains. The rocking score. And don't even get me started on the scene set to "I need a hero" being sung by the villain unironically and completely played straight. Shrek 2 has just overall one of the best concepts ever and is, in my book, the single greatest animated feature of our generation.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 01:09:22 No.8057471 >>8055002 In the book of the new sun audiobooks, the guy pronounces "triskele" like "tricycle

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 01:18:43 No.8057497 >>8057471 There are two versions of BoTNS audiobooks, the tape recorder one, and the digital one. >>8057339 The dated anon probably scared away the elitist anons, since I noticed his post, the threads have been getting more shitty.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 01:20:07 No.8057500 >>8057339 It's after midnight on a weeknight throughout part of the western hemisphere and the entire eastern one. Some people have jobs.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 01:32:34 No.8057524 >>8057458 Shrek 2 is a pile of shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 01:45:09 No.8057554 >>8057500 I too have a job.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 01:47:54 No.8057564 >>8057524 Not an argument.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 01:56:01 No.8057594 >>8057500 That's no excuse, you lazy sod. Pour another cup of coffee and keep posting. You can sleep when you're dead.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 02:09:10 No.8057625 File: 138 KB, 570x860, books1-1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This was quite good, I kept thinking it felt like a 21st century version of 70s anthropological sf

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 02:28:11 No.8057690

>>8057594
>coffee
Enjoy hypertension you addict faggot.

>>8057625
Is this based on that video game?

>>8057471
No joke here guys, but what is it with people who speak only English not knowing how to pronounce normal sounding words and names for shit? Everybody I know who knows a different language is fine pronouncing everything except words with "th" in them.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 03:12:32 No.8057779 >>8057339 I went through all of Legend of Korra except the final 5 episodes yesterday, so didn't read anything or found anything to talk about.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 03:19:17 No.8057789 >>8057458 Yes, but the YA romance makes me feel less lonely. And generally I didn't enjoy a series in a while like this. Also I haven't seen Shrek in ages, but it is still a pretty dank meme.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 03:21:56 No.8057796 >>8057010 >Keeping Malazan >Crossing out Black company You atleast could have tried

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 05:26:04 No.8057990 >>8057796 Stockholme syndrome.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 05:30:02 No.8057992 >>8057990 Yeah this happened to me while reading wheel of time, I started with what the fuck is this shit and then after three thousand pages it was either start to like it or go insane so i started to like it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 05:30:47 No.8057993 >>8057992 Except Malazan is way better than WoT.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 05:41:30 No.8058006 >>8057993 Wouldn't know, haven't read it. And after learning that it spawned from a D&D campaign I'm not really inclined to do so, much as I like D&D I like my fantasy to be atypical. Plus they tell me it's edgy as fuck which is another no-no.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 06:44:32 No.8058114 >>8057992 So it is like listening to Swans?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 06:54:09 No.8058136 File: 22 KB, 540x200, FB_IMG_1463642172464.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8058114 Yes, actually. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 07:03:19 No.8058151 >>8058136 Your pic related is unfunny shit

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 07:04:26 No.8058152
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>>8055950
Speaking of, Cusicesh is above normal spren but below 'god'spren (like Nightwatcher and Stormfather.)

>>8056601
No? Why do you keep asking this after being told no once already? It's based off of a Julia set, anon.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 07:29:39 No.8058195
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Finished Altered Carbon. Started Land Firt for Heroes. Here's my impression so far:

>meet a new character, let's have sex
>meet an old friend, let's have sex
>thanks for the briefing, have sex with my slave
>I need to speak with my god, better have sex
>our clan leader is bad because sex
>I should investigate that, let's pose as sex fiends
>ah, a demon, better have sex with it

I don't mind the occasional sex scene, but this is starting to read like a gay version of Twilight. Is there an actual story in here somewhere?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 07:36:22 No.8058208 >>8058195 I've only read neurancer, but I see the pattern

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 07:57:36 No.8058246 >>8058208 You're speaking nonsense. If you mean Neuromancer, that was written by Gibson not Morgan.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 08:01:03 No.8058252 >>8058246 Must have mixed up titles and authors then.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 09:27:20 No.8058412
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>>8058152
>Why do you keep asking this after being told no once already
I asked it once?
>It's based off of a Julia set, anon
What does that have to do with plagiarism?

If both >>8055914 and the one you posted are legit, why do they have areas that are called different things? And what is up with this one?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 09:47:02 No.8058461 What is everyone reading and what do you think of it?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 09:49:31 No.8058468 >>8058461 I'm reading Book 3 of The Wheel Of Time It's been good so far but I struggle to imagine how he can possibly stretch this story for another ELEVEN books. It's mind boggling.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 09:57:37 No.8058483 >>8058006 That means you won't read Gray Mouser, because that "supposedly" spawned D&D games.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 10:05:47 No.8058501 >>8058483 That simply means that Malazan is derivative while F&GM is not, which is why I might read it someday.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 10:37:50 No.8058556

>>8058461
Just finished book 3 of Malazan. Pretty okay, if a bit brutal for my taste. Decided to only read it on weekends because hauling those monster hardbacks to work and such is a pain. That and I was pining for shorter works that I could switch up every day or two.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 10:39:40 No.8058558 >>8058468 ive not read them, but i think theres more than one story

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:40:13 No.8058675
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Just finished this.

While it did take a while to get used to the author's meme and jargon-heavy prose (I mean seriously it was ridiculous at some points and got in the way of plot delivery), I did think it was a fascinating examination of consciousness with a heavy, bleak atmosphere and unique aliens.

What does /sffg/ think of it and the works of Peter Watts?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:41:41 No.8058679 >>8058675 I'm thinking of reading it. Can you give an example sentence of that meme prose? Is it more memey than Wolfe?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:42:35 No.8058682 >>8057114 Dinosaur /female hate/2000 anon won. The classical crew gave up. Why stay in a place your not wanted? They have better shit to do, like read actual books, unlike us. We just meme all day without actually reading anything.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:44:54 No.8058686

>>8058679
You spent a bit longer in there than the rest of us," he remarked.
"That's significant?"
A jerking shrug. "Maybe your organs got a bit more cooked than ours. Maybe you just got a delicate constitution. Your pod would've caught anything—imminent, so I figure—ah."
"What?"
"Some cells along your brainpan going into overdrive. More in your bladder and kidney."
"Tumors?"
"What you expect? Rorschach's no rejuve spa."
"But the pod—"
Szpindel grimaced; his idea of a reassuring smile. "Repairs ninety-nine point nine percent of the damage, sure. By the time you get to the last zero-point-one, you're into diminishing returns. These're small, commissar. Chances are your own body'll take care of 'em. If not, we know where they live."
"The ones in my brain. Could they be causing—"
"Not a chance." He chewed on his lower lip for a moment. "Course, cancer's not all that thing did to us."
"What I saw. Up in the crypt. It had these multijointed arms from a central mass. Big as a person, maybe."
Szpindel nodded. "Get used to it."
"The others are seeing these things?"
"I doubt it. Everyone has a different take, like—" his twitching face conveyed Dare I say it? "—Rorschach blots."
"I was expecting hallucinations in the field," I admitted, "but up here?"
"TMS effects—" Szpindel snapped his fingers— "they're sticky, eh? Neurons get kicked into one state, take a while to come unstuck. You never got a TAT? Well-adjusted boy like you?"
"Once or twice," I said. "Maybe."
"Same principle."
"So I'm going to keep seeing this stuff."
"Party line is they fade over time. Week or two you're back to normal. But out here, with that thing..." He shrugged. "Too many variables. Not the least of which is, I assume we'll keep going back until Sarasti says otherwise."
"But they're basically magnetic effects."
"Probably. Although I'm not betting on anything where that fucker's concerned."
"Could something else be causing them?" I asked. "Something on this ship?"
"Like what?'
"I don't know. Leakage in Theseus' magnetic shielding, maybe."
"Not normally. Course, we've all got little implanted networks in our heads, eh? And you've got a whole hemisphere of prosthetics up there, who knows what kind of side-effects those might let you in for. Why? Rorschach not a good enough reason for you?"
I saw them before, I might have said.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:47:10 No.8058691 File: 15 KB, 224x225, the stars my destination.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the hypest /sffg/ novel? My vote's on this, shit was genuinely pulse-pounding

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:47:55 No.8058693

>>8058675
>>8058679
You haven't read a meme book until you read quantum thief , memes are a form of attack.

Just imagine how we spurdo, wojack, pepe, abloo bloo, gaia, efg, pedobear, etc, etc each other. Now imagine a book where we can use these memes to kill others... that is quantum thief .

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:49:47 No.8058701 File: 270 KB, 462x547, 1462079650203.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8058693 shit, that was on my to read list...

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:50:17 No.8058703 Any science fiction in line with Alien or Event Horizon?

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>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:56:21 No.8058718 >>8058686 I don't see memes, there might be jargon but no memes(didn't read blindsight yet). Read more good sci-fi and you'll get use to the jargon.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:57:38 No.8058724 >>8058701 It's a good book, when I finished it I thought of it as 4chan the novel.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 11:59:22 No.8058730 >>8058461 Shadow of the torturer, chapter 9. I'm actually wondering when does Severian get kicked out, since that's the synopsis for the first book, yet i'm almost halfway there and it hasn't happened yet.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:00:30 No.8058734

>>8058718
Admittedly it was a pretty tame passage compared to some parts of the book. There are some pretty bad science metaphors as well.

You'll see what I mean when you read it, though. It's a good book but I feel like it could've been even better if the prose were different. Sometimes I had no clue what was going on due to Watts' terminology.

But give it a try, maybe it's more up to your speed!

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:01:21 No.8058737 >>8058724 What about the two books /lit/ has written? I can't remember then name of the last one, but it was filled to the brim with meems.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:01:29 No.8058738 >>8058706 What is this image shppose to portray? What are those see through fade images i can't make them out? Is this some kind of new dank meme?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:01:45 No.8058739 >>8058730 What are you talking about, Chapter 9 is not even 100 pages in. If I remember right he gets kicked at around 125 pages. I'm also reading it right now btw. At around 180~ pages

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:04:17 No.8058742 >>8058739 I misremembered and thought i was at around the 90th page, but it turns out i'm only in 62. Well shit, i'm barely 1/4th in.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:06:52 No.8058750 >>8058734 >There are some pretty bad science metaphors as well This is the worst thing about the book. Soooooo many pithy rants about science shit

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:09:20 No.8058757 >>8058737 Hyperspace/w/e and a cold day in a tundra w/e? That was outer lit, i didn't touch that shit

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:10:53 No.8058760 >>8058757 Hypersphere, actually, can't remember the other one.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:14:31 No.8058767 >>8058703 Forgot to say, already read Solaris

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:19:05 No.8058786 >>8058760 The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra, pleb

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:23:54 No.8058797 >>8058738 A dino and an old man, they correctly portray your decrepit fossil fuel ass since you living under a fucking rock.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:50:07 No.8058872 >>8058675 I really, really like Blindsight, and Watts is one of my favourite authors based on the Rifters trilogy and Firefall (Blindsight and Echopraxia). I have Beyond the Rift here somewhere too, have to read it sometime...

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:51:43 No.8058879 >>8058872 Hows Echopraxia, is it a sequel? And does Blindsight stand alone well?

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 12:58:37 No.8058895

>>8058879
Echopraxia is a sequel, but not a direct one. I don't mean there's a time skip or anything, but it involves a different "theater", so to speak. What happened in Blindsight does have a bearing in Echopraxia, though.

I think Blindsight stands well alone. There's a definite potential for continuation in its ending, but I wasn't clamouring for a sequel or anything when I had read it.

Watts talked about a possible third and final novel, but I think it might be on the backburner? I know he was disappointed a lot of people had no idea what was going on in Echopraxia, so he's probably not going straight for another one in the series.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 13:19:06 No.8058934 >>8058686 Now I'm remembering what the Rifters trilogy was like, Watts is excellent at ideas but he writes like an edgier Neal Stephenson.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 13:28:28 No.8058963 >>8055080 Don't start with Star Wars. Just don't read it at all. If you read shit like that, don't bother getting into reading. You don't have to start with the Greeks or Ulyssses but at least check out the recommended reading list.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 13:52:17 No.8059028 Thoughts on Chronicle of the Unhewn Thrown? It seems to have strong focus on mythology and gods from what I gathered, which I love. Feel free to throw me books that do those well.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 13:54:01 No.8059036 Thoughts on Chronicle of the Unhewn Thrown? It seems to have strong focus on mythology and gods from what I gathered, which I love. Feel free to throw me other books that do those well.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:00:23 No.8059071 >>8055015 >>8055023 >>8055100 >>8055133 >>8055136 I like these. I hope other Anons would share their slightly obscure recommendations as well!

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:04:56 No.8059088
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>>8058412
Oh you weren't being serious, merely shitposting in the thread. Equally as dumb but not surprising. Shame on me. Polite sage for responding.

>>8058675
I enjoyed the main character and his profession that I can somewhat relate to and even appreciate the moral stance behind it while agreeing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:07:05 No.8059096 >>8059088 I was being serious. Dont be cynical cunt all the time

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:11:18 No.8059112 So, i have started reading the Dark Tower after so many years. I've heard that Stephen dropped the ball aat some point. Is that true?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:16:06 No.8059143 >>8059112 Yes, it falls apart by the end

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:17:36 No.8059149 What's a good big, "epic" fantasy series with 6+ long-ass books that starts out interesting, doesn't drag too much in the middle, and actually comes through with a solid ending?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:51:30 No.8059276 >>8059149 >Epic series >doesnt drag >solid ending Why not just ask for them to be gold plated, diamond encrusted, and wrapped in unicorn leather too?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:52:37 No.8059281 >>8059149 Malazan, if you can get through the first book, is your only real option.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:54:12 No.8059284 >>8059149 Malazan is your only real option. You should be safe if you get through the first book and the first 1/4th of the 2nd.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 14:55:51 No.8059288

>>8055023
>Michael Swanwick
Yeah, he's great.

>Like Jurassic Park/The Lost World except good.
Pff. 'Bones of the Earth' is an obvious parody/troll novel. (Either that or he was stoned out of his gourd when writing it.)

Strangely enough, the ridiculous troll novel is the only one that won awards...

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 15:10:28 No.8059322 >>8059036 Starts good, but book 3 is an absolute disappointing mess. Not a bad first series, but it was definitely fumbled a bit.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 15:27:17 No.8059371 >>8059288 >the ridiculous troll novel is the only one that won awards But Stations Of The Tide won a Nebula and a bunch of other novels were nominated for Hugo/Locus/whatever.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 15:28:51 No.8059376 >>8059149 asoiaf is the best. Malazan will bore you

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 16:29:04 No.8059597 File: 27 KB, 398x600, panem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >the country's name is in the accusative case Didn't they test this book before they released it?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 16:30:30 No.8059605 >>8059597 Don't read that.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 16:32:16 No.8059617 >>8059605 I didn't, I just heard about it in a comment section and wanted to complain

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 16:56:53 No.8059720 File: 19 KB, 480x360, cron.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8054973 Is it too edgy to have a fantasy novel end in the protagonist eating a baby? It's a novel about cannibal fledgling gods.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 16:57:51 No.8059725 >>8059322 Hm, do you recommend it? And in what way exactly is book 3 bad, without spoiling it?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 16:59:04 No.8059729 >>8059720 Could work if you do it right, I assume there's a symbolic/ritual significance?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 17:01:00 No.8059738 >>8059729 The baby is a godling bloated on divine power provided by a priesthood so he can attract and be fed other fledling gods.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 17:09:42 No.8059769 >>8059720 Nope, if /tg/ is anything to go by liberals fucking obsess over justifying necromancy and genocide as long as it's for the "muh greater good".

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 17:26:32 No.8059823 >>8059769 Is tg liberal? I mean it's apolitically autistic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 17:27:04 No.8059826 File: 148 KB, 312x475, 8879516.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >go to /sffg/ >people claim to like prose >no one ever talks about Peter S. Beagle >???

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 17:44:25 No.8059885

>>8059725
It's a good series. I really enjoyed books one and two. Three wasn't complete garbage, kettral chapters really carry the book.

The problem was that it seemed really rushed, all the overarching plots of empire, gods and cssestrim get streamlined down in complexity compared to the prior two books.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 18:28:40 No.8059999 Is Cherryh anon still here? She's been awarded SFWA Grand Master https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO8_27e0TxY

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 19:02:32 No.8060114 >>8059999 >those quads

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 19:11:11 No.8060136 >>8059999 Yeah, I'm here. I was pretty exciting on learning about this a few weeks ago. Thanks for the update.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 19:18:57 No.8060157

I've been reading the "Blackcollar" series by Timothy Zahn recently. It's okay, kinda generic stories about ninja commandos doing guerilla war against the aliens that defeated humanity. However I'm posting because in the third book there's a part where one of the characters is imprisoned and then escapes by attacking his captors after filling his prison jumpsuit full of paper and wearing a bean bag as a helmet.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 19:20:23 No.8060161 >>8060157 >escapes by attacking his captors after filling his prison jumpsuit full of paper and wearing a bean bag as a helmet. Does it make more sense in context?

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 19:35:19 No.8060205

>>8060161
Kinda. The main non-lethal gun in the series appears to be some kind of pistol that shoots paralyzing darts like a shotgun. And apparently these guns can have their velocity tuned, so the character figured that they would be set to only penetrate his jumpsuit.

It just feels like a very silly and out of place scene.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 20:32:28 No.8060396 >>8059036 F U C K A D A R E U C K A D A R E

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 20:37:02 No.8060410 >>8060396 Muh stronk womayn empress Muh half genocidal elf babby

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 20:43:07 No.8060428 >>8060410 Don't forget about the whore and F R A T R I C I D E R A T R I C I D E

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 20:45:36 No.8060436
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How do I tell the reader something about a fantasy character without doing a big "Concerning Hobbits" style info-dump? The first thing that happens in my story is a half-human guy contacts the protagonist - I need to explain that he's half-human, what the other half is, and how that makes people react to him, without derailing the scene he's a part of. Best thing I can think of is to have a random yokel stare and ask "what the heck are you?", but it seems like a cheap trick. Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 20:56:52 No.8060480 >>8060436 Try the caught shopping route. Protagonist asks why furry-human is buying something, have half-human explain it's because his fur requires extensive maintenance.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 21:08:19 No.8060523

>>8060480
Cheers, that actually works really well - my main guy's a trader, who might conceivably have armor with multiple neck holes in his wagon, and I can have all the other customers leave in a hurry to reflect how regular humans view hydra-people.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 21:09:56 No.8060527 >>8060523 *which is, of course, what the hydra-guy wanted so he and MC can get on with what they're scheming.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 21:17:09 No.8060553 >>8060157 >Zahn That guy is so prolific it's hard for me to believe the books are any good.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 21:33:45 No.8060605

>>8060553
The Blackcollar books are apparently the first ones he had published, and while they're not the best scifi ever I've found them entertaining enough. (and it's not like you're really going to drag a Hugo award out of "space ninjas.") The only other book I've read by him was The Icarus Hunt, which was ages ago but IIRC it was a sort of a slow-burn thriller about a space smuggler contracted to take a cargo ship to Earth.

I've heard that apparently his Thrawn books are the only parts of the Star Wars EU that aren't shit. Now to be fair, I don't know if that just means he's a good writer, or a competent writer compared to the usual EU authors.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 21:47:41 No.8060654
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This talk of space ninjas got me thinking.
Is there any book that is basically Naruto(jutsus will be replaced by symbiotic technologies) in space?
Bv Larson and Neal Asher are the closest I've seen to this.(no anime)

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 22:33:55 No.8060830 >>8054973 >Obscure sci-fi The Administrator series by Taku Mayumura. It's more interesting than good, but it's solid and it's always fun to science fiction from a country that doesn't produce much of it.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 22:42:09 No.8060862

>>8060654
>"You may have defeated my pupils and shamed my dojo. But do you think you can stop my 'Lunar Demon' cyber-jutsu?" said the ancient black clad man. The mobsters went quiet in terror at the mention of the lost martial art of Earth Command, suppressed by the victorious Martian Empire after the inner worlds war.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 22:52:48 No.8060898 >>8059826 I've been looking at this or Mirror Kingdoms to start with him, which would you reccomend?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 22:54:01 No.8060905 >>8058468 lol shit expands, you've got a looming way to go. It's worth it though.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 22:54:51 No.8060907
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>>8054973
>Any obscuremaybenotsogreat authors you'd like to share?
Gerard Klein. Overlords of War was a fantastic ride. There was, like, this monster that could naturally time-travel that got bred for cavalry use, and this dimension where alien gods keep humans and force them to continually fight to show them the futility of war, except this time-traveling cavalry can break out whenever they want.

Also Patricia Anthony. Cold Allies had this video game nerd running a tank drone against Arabs invading France. There was a really cool scene where the soldiers his drone is with get nerve-gassed and he can't do anything about it.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 22:56:38 No.8060910

>>8055023
You sound like you haven't actually read anything by Sanderson. His characters suck, his prose sucks, but his ideas and originality are just fine.

AND sandersonfags never go on about how their nihilist fantasy is so great because it subverts things.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 22:57:14 No.8060913

Anyone got any good recommendations for something celtic-ey or mythological sort of?

Maybe something similar to like Lavondyss or Mythago Wood but crossed with Lord Dunsany or Clark Ashton Smith?

Or should I just read more Leiber?

Fuck I don't even know what I want.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:00:23 No.8060928 >>8059826 Only ever read The Last Unicorn. Was good.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:01:15 No.8060932 >>8059096 They're maps of the physical world and Platonic ideal world. In Platonic ideal world, water and land swap places. And I didn't notice the Julia set, that's really cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:01:53 No.8060935 >>8060862 FUND IT

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:04:17 No.8060945 >>8060913 Perhaps you would like "The Wizard Knight"

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:05:09 No.8060950 >>8060913 >Or should I just read more Leiber? How far along are you? I'm just finishing up Swords Against Death.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:06:42 No.8060954

>>8060898
Mirror Kingdoms is a good sampler - it has stories from Sleight, two other anthologies, and ones related to his Last Unicorn and Innkeeper's Song novels. From there you can figure out what you like best - of course, the drawback is the other short collections will all have at least one story you've already got in MK.

Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:08:36 No.8060969

>>8058691
>that scene where he's makin' romance with the industrialist's daughter while Earth is getting nuked
>tearing that dude out of the Martian sensory deprivation colony and having a child telepath break his mind
>that burning man that pops out of nowhere the whole time
Loved it.

For more modern hype SFF, Golden Son was pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:11:10 No.8060981 >>8060605 >The Icarus Hunt That was pretty fun. All I remember was the bro-alien sending his psychic ferrets to scout ahead. Zahn's pretty much a budget Alan Dean Foster, isn't he?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:12:45 No.8060986 >>8060913 Lloyd Alexander, the Prydain chronicles. Also a lot of Diana Wynne Jones' stuff. >muh YA They're good authors.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:30:41 No.8061041 File: 45 KB, 294x475, The_Dreaming_Tree.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8060913 Cherryh did a set with elements of celtic myth. They're not my favorites, though I've not read the edition with revisions and a new ending.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 19, 2016 23:37:53 No.8061067 >>8061041 >They're not my favorites By this I mean that anything Cherryh is recommended, but I wouldn't call these particular works representative of her aesthetic. Rather, pre-80s Cherryh lacks some of her later polish.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 00:23:18 No.8061191 >>8060954 How does it compare to Sleight of Hand?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:00:13 No.8061308 I want to like Brent Weeks' work but it's hard, I love the plots but it's impossible to read them I keep getting disgusted by all the rape and how he handles women it's nauseating

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:02:28 No.8061315 >>8061308 Yep. The worst part is that he's clearly trying to write good female characters, but every time he has to introduce some sort of hardship for them he just defaults to rape or something that clearly has a rapey subtext.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:17:20 No.8061359 >>8061191 I'd recommend Mirror Kingdoms, it's a bit longer (400+ pages vs a little under 300) and has more variety, like a "best of" rather than a standard anthology. You can't go far wrong with either, though.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:22:02 No.8061369
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>>8061308
>I keep getting disgusted by all the rape
He's clearly thinks that he's Le Edgy McEdgy when he writes rape but it actually comes across as tryhard fanfiction tier cringe.

You can just skip the pages though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:42:36 No.8061416 File: 61 KB, 800x600, GRI APPROVED.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8061308 >>8061315 >>8061369

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:45:29 No.8061426 >>8061308 >implying lightbringer sluts didn't want it They can't resist that Prisim dick

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:47:27 No.8061432 >>8061416 >gri Oh boy you fags brought back the gay anon. I thought we got rid of him

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:47:46 No.8061434

I'm working on my own medieval-ish fantasy novel.

I have a thing in there that can grant any wish. It's not going to be used as a MacGuffin, but it will be an important point.

Would it be pretentious to call it the Heart of Darkness? My second choice is the Atom Heart.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:55:22 No.8061456 How many memes did sffg spawn?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 01:58:44 No.8061466 File: 181 KB, 600x600, 1459121916632.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8061416 Gavin and Dazen sitting in a tree. K I S S I N G

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:00:36 No.8061477 >>8061434 Center of oblivion, quark of nothingness, seed of infinity, womb of emptiness.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:01:01 No.8061478 >>8061456 >Gay, Rape and Incest >Not Literature, Reported >Meme Wolfe... >...and his follower, Absolute Aram >ROTHFUSS IS SHIT SANDERSON IS ANIME

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:03:13 No.8061482 >>8061466 The god king fucked his kids, there is tonnes of GRI in Night Angel. But lightbringer?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:06:26 No.8061492 >>8061478 Don't forget dinosaur, women can't write, little girl protagonist, is malazan good, charts

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:06:51 No.8061494 >>8061478 >>Meme Wolfe... was even more popular when this general didnt exist wolfe was in every other thread back then

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:07:30 No.8061496

>>8060913
Morgan Llywelyn's not too bad. I mean okay, some of her stuff is bad, but I definitely recommend Finn Mac Cool because it's pretty kickass. Decent prose and characters, stellar plot.

>>8061456
Dinosaur, 2000, the pedo who asks for little girl characters

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:08:24 No.8061498 >>8061482 Unless you count The Logan'ing of Dazen aka Gavin Original by his identical twin brother there isn't much G or I in Lightbringer. NA, on the other hand, is up to its neck in GRI.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:25:43 No.8061544

>>8060935
Okay so there's no guns in space because (to borrow from David Drake's Surface Action/The Jungle and Battle Angel Alita) Earth's atmosphere got blown up by terrorists so the protection of the space stations/dome habitats became so paramount that possession of firearms became a automatic death sentence. So the various thugs and warriors of the solar system had to resort to fists and blades for plying their trade.

Eventually this developed into complex and secretive schools of martial arts derived from the half-remembered ways of Old Earth, each developing their own secret killing techniques and bionic combat enhancements in the hopes to best their opponents. However as time went on and the other planets were colonized, these techniques were gradually forgotten or where suppressed when the schools were destroyed during wars.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:35:09 No.8061572

>>8061494
As he should be. I figured out There Are Doors this week. I only need like 7 or 8 more flashes of insight. (Evil Guest, Sorcerers House, Land Across, Castleview, Wizard Knight, Borrowed Man - can I solve them, or will they forgive me if I fail?)

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:35:53 No.8061576 >>8061492 Those only showed up the last few weeks

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 02:41:22 No.8061588 Any books with little girl villains?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 03:07:23 No.8061636 >>8061588 little girls are a spook

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 03:07:24 No.8061637

>>8060605
>I've heard that apparently his Thrawn books are the only parts of the Star Wars EU that aren't shit.
Not true. X-Wing books are pretty good too. And the Revenge of the Sith novelization is better than the movie (not really an amazing feat, but still)

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 03:08:34 No.8061640 >>8061492 >women can't write This one is true though, not a meme. It's like saying "the sky is blue is a meme"

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 03:10:50 No.8061644 >>8061640 when you're 25 you'll wake up one day and it'll hit you when you see yourself in the mirror "wait... maybe i was the meme all this time?"

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 03:12:07 No.8061647 >>8061644 Actually that happened when I was 27

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 03:21:20 No.8061669 File: 106 KB, 600x378, Pepe ID Card.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8061647 >Actually that happened when I was 27

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 03:24:34 No.8061674 >>8061669 Someone made a meme out of my face but it's not posted anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 04:16:52 No.8061736 >>8061674 M-marc? Is that you?

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 04:21:37 No.8061746

>>8060945
I'll look it up
>>8060950
Read all the Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser stuff, but none of his other works
>>8060986
Loved the Prydain chronicles when I was a kid
Haven't read any of Diana Wynne Jones' stuff, might as well read Howl's Moving Castle though everyone says its good
>>8061041
I'll check that out too

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 04:24:40 No.8061749 >>8061496 Read Finn Mac Cool it was enjoyable, haven't ever read anything else by Llywelyn might as well get back to it

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 04:55:16 No.8061793 >>8061674 >not posted any more I'll have to fix that when I get wifi

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 05:08:35 No.8061817 Any science fiction with a little girl protagonist?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 05:13:49 No.8061829 >>8061817 Honestly unironically really kill your fucking self.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 06:56:15 No.8061987 >>8059376 >asoiaf is the best He asked for something with a sold ending. ASoIaF is beyond saving at this point and won't be finished within the next 10+ years.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:19:16 No.8062015

>>8061308

It's not even the rape that is the worst, of course rape IS bad and very bad it's vile but the threat of rape is even worse than rape itself it completely takes away all agency from the woman and she has to submit to the patriarch instead of being able to apply herself ,and of course it also humiliates her and causes extreme emotional distress and humiliation that it's vile and gross and disgusting and horrid, it's fucking wrong and it should never appear in any book it's just wrong on so many levels

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:23:02 No.8062019 >>8061817 the marvelous land of oz tip is actually a girl... or possibly they persuade him, err, her of it later

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:29:34 No.8062027 >>8061817 Yes the novel I'm writing right now. It has a 7 year old little girl protag. It may or may not be... well..

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:31:54 No.8062034 >>8062015 Some books deal with the theme of rape. For example, Severian through the journey realises how it's pretty bad actually.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:37:53 No.8062041

>>8061308
>>8062015

you don't like rape? i consider you to check this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gor

:3

as sapkowski wrote about that circle, other fantasy heroes save kingdoms, kill dragons, look for artifacts while john norton's heroes do nothing but rape

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:42:12 No.8062048 >>8062041 Oh my god I feel physically fucking sick from reading about Gor what the FUCK

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:43:06 No.8062050 >>8062015 >>8062048 Your impression of an angry tumblrina is not funny and is fooling literally no one, I advise to promptly kill self.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:45:36 No.8062053 >>8062041 I accidentally read Time Slave (dollar bin), Sapkowski had some real weird fixations. Terrible author

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 07:45:46 No.8062054 File: 32 KB, 448x253, 1456999964893.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8062048 >triggered by vaginas anon gets tired of being ignored (You)

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:19:28 No.8062102 >>8061674 Are you Maurice from /krg/?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:29:25 No.8062115 The threat of rape always makes me incredibly hard, just knowing that she is about to have penis enter her makes me so stiff it hurts. Nothing is hotter than clamping your girl's neck, and entering her from behind without permission.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:30:01 No.8062117 File: 47 KB, 478x342, mfw_plebs_misinterpret_wolfe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8062102 No, he's Marc Aramini, writer and person on whom the first lit absolutely haram is based on. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:32:48 No.8062120 >>8062115 I hope the next girl you fuck has vagina dentata. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina_dentata

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:37:33 No.8062127 File: 131 KB, 1024x732, 9313737_orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8062115 >anon is proud of the fact that no girl would ever willing fuck him KEKKED E K K E D͏

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:39:45 No.8062130 >>8062117 >mfw my OC became a meme sorry, Marc, I never intended for this to happen.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:39:59 No.8062132 >>8062120 Spoilers, that doesn't exist >>8062127 Pretty sure he is into domination, which is quite common.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:44:52 No.8062137 File: 11 KB, 452x111, tales of the otori.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any good Japanese-inspired fantasy? I was thinking of reading Tales of the Otori, anyone read?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:45:13 No.8062139 >>8061492 >dinosaur One retard spamming something isn't a meme, unless we're talking abatap levels. >charts Don't think sffg started charts.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 08:51:01 No.8062148 >>8061572 >I figured out There Are Doors this week What is there to figure out in There Are Doors? As far as Wolfe goes it seems pretty simple.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 09:05:31 No.8062171 >>8062130 >made a meme >never intended the meme to become a meme That's not how it works man. >>8062148 Also his worst. Everything else he wrote was much better.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 09:09:58 No.8062174

>>8062137
The only Japanese-themed fantasy I've read was the Lotus War series which I dropped after the second book. It's a steampunk fantasy thing with airships and shit and a fuckton of "Industrialization is ruining the environment", which I don't disagree with, but when it's portrayed as literally turning the air into mustard gas, the propaganda is too blatant to be readable.

Maybe try some anime? I hear Mushishi is pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 09:11:34 No.8062175 >>8062137 Best Japanese fantasy is untranslated.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 09:25:42 No.8062192

>>8062174
List of good Eastern themed shows:
Mushishi
Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away
Mononoke (different work than the princess, it's similar to Mushishi, but has longer arcs and is much darker in themes and atmosphere, so murder, abortion, incest etc. )
The Last Airbender and Legend of Korra
Natsume

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 09:29:25 No.8062196 >>8062192 Wow dude you sound like an anime pro. I bet your amount of watched shows is in the double digits, truly a master of knowledge...

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 10:03:37 No.8062251 File: 51 KB, 296x475, Cyteen_Rebirth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8061817 I know you're not a real person, but if you were, you might like Cyteen. It's loli af, in the common parlance. Have a cat smiley :3

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 10:22:28 No.8062284 >>8062192 >this triggers me Avatar is a western cartoon drawn and animated in an eastern style.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 10:25:09 No.8062288 >>8062139 I know for a fact that it's more than one person dinosaur posting. I did it more than once because yall get autistic when it happens. It's fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 10:28:11 No.8062299 >>8062251 Does her senpai/oni-san do lewd things with her?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 10:45:28 No.8062364 >>8062299 I don't remember exactly. She's definitely manipulative in that vein. The dirty old woman she is a clone of did so with a vulnerable young research assistant. The loli clone then fixates on him. She's quite cozy with the bodyguards as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 11:06:07 No.8062410 >>8062284 It was animated in Korea. And I said shows, not anime so no reason to be triggered. >>8062196 Any actual problem with giving a few recommendations to the other anon? If he'd already seen it, great, if not he may find something he likes.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 11:14:31 No.8062429 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PQo3FGqBg Has anyone even read this guys book and can say what they think? He has some decent advice but I'm unsure.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 11:33:02 No.8062483 >>8062364 Cozy as in benis in vagoo?

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 11:39:27 No.8062510

This general is lacking in memes. Where is the conan and gene wolfe fags?

Did the "...is anime, ... is shit" anon leave?
Where is all the fun posting?

Why isn't the dated anon splerging? Where is the bakker countdown anon?

Where is the furry artist shill?
Why isn't there talk about females can't write?
The only one being consistent is the lolifag.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 11:54:50 No.8062559 >>8062410 >It was animated in Korea. I guess that means The Simpsons is an anime too since they outsource their animation to Korea too :^)

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 11:55:41 No.8062562 >>8062510 We don't need memes all the time. It can get tiresome. >Where is the furry artist shill? Was that actually a meme? Do you mean that furries in space thing?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 11:55:55 No.8062564 >>8062559 It makes them almost anime. Koreans are basically Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 11:57:26 No.8062572 >>8062483 Do... do I have to spell it out for you senpai?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 12:33:26 No.8062662 File: 829 KB, 1116x1380, the chart of cthulhu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Which of these are good and which are shit?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 12:39:06 No.8062683 >>8062662 they are all shit

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 12:46:01 No.8062707

>>8062572
Yes basically. I never read her so I don't know her stance on sexual explicit works in her novels. I don't even know if she is against "oldxyoung" sex, even if the young person is really a old person in a clone body asking for the dicking.

I want sex scenes like in Prince of Nothing and asoiaf, not cut to black and all the hints show that they had sex.

Not the pedo anon btw.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 12:53:46 No.8062722

>>8062662
Anything based off of Lovecraft is shit. Like how Delany is popular because he called blacks bulls and the n word. Lovecraft is popular because he hated/feared blacks and hated/feared squids, which can be a metaphor for asians, seeing as that is a large part of their diet.

And during his time the hatred of Asians and Blacks were paramount.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 14:04:01 No.8063073

>>8062722
>Lovecraft is popular because he hated/feared blacks and hated/feared squids, which can be a metaphor for asians, seeing as that is a large part of their diet.

That isn't really fair, he didn't like a lot of white/European ethnic groups either.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 14:25:17 No.8063160

>>8062707
>I want sex scenes like in Prince of Nothing and asoiaf
Ah, okay. Cherryh isn't generally explicit in her treatment of sexual encounters. Cyteen is a little different since sexual development is an important facet of the story, but I don't remember exactly how far it goes. Honestly, that kind of descriptive account isn't to my taste, so it doesn't make a strong impression on my memory of the book.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 14:49:02 No.8063250 >>8063160 Totally tangential, and not really related to sex scenes at all, but where do you recommend getting into Cherryh? I prefer novels, and only really like short stories when they're part of serial adventures about the same character(s).

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 14:55:17 No.8063277

>>8062148
not just insanity, but SUICIDE. At United Health center where he is detained, Walsh the fight manager, North the psychotic, Green, and Klamm the super-ego or absent father figure are all parts of his personality just as Lara/Tina/Marcela are the fractured goddess/feminine principle. Even at the Grand Hotel where North decides to kill Green, the flags are of a double headed eagle and a griffin, composite beasts (as Green/Adam K. Pine is.)

>Then [Green] held the gun ... . He twisted it up and back. It fired - its flash half-blinded him, and the sound of the shot was deafening. ... He heard his own nose break, a terrible sound; something had invaded his head and was working destruction there. He gasped for breath, drew in blood and spat it out. More blood was streaming down his face.

The final fight between Sailor Sawyer with his dragon tattoos and the boxer Joe Joseph (when North tries to muscle in to take the kind but delusional Walsh's place as the manager, then kill Klamm BY AIMING HIS GUNS AT GREEN) is all a metaphorical struggle for the reunification of Green's/Adam Pine's personality (Attis dies under a pine tree at the end of his holy week, which begins March 15th - Lara leaves Green on March 14th). Capini's Italian restaurant (the "little head" or "from the head") is in both worlds because it is a literal representation of Green's head (regardless of the pagan/Christian subtext of Italy). He is the only one in both worlds, until he can take action to end his access to one or the other.

To make his delusions real, he has to leave behind this life. Green wonders "If he was not in fact dead," considering his disbelief in Purgatory as a child. "[B]ut perhaps he had been wrong, as he had been wrong about things so many times since, wrong about a whole series of wrong choices that had seemed likely never to end - until at last Lara had chosen him. Did they have fires in Purgatory? No, they had fires in Hell."

When he first goes looking for Walsh, he finds North in the room, who calls for "Mama" in his sleep (Green is depressed from the death of his mother), and North teaches him how to pick the lock where he has a vision of Lara/Tina/Marcela and the desk which is the climax of the "real" part of the narrative and leads to the final depression.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 14:56:19 No.8063280

>>8062148
Sheng asks him if he believes he is in Paradise or Hell at the start (though it is still just a delusional system) and Green chooses Paradise, though the dragon of flame from the match and the dragon of smoke from Sheng's pipe seem to fight in the air, just as Joe Joseph and dragon tattooed Sailor Sawyer will fight at the end (the dragon match starts the fire which blows up the theater, bringing the fires into the picture). The sailor lover who owned the vital desk of Lara as Leucothea (a mortal woman in myth who drowned in insanity, as her children did, and then was transformed into a sea goddess) was named Blazing Billy/William - she likes the name William, even though North is the only contemporary character of that name and seems to have nothing to do with her (save that he is the violent and self-destructive part of Green's personality). The fight between innocent Joe Joseph and Sailor Sawyer is the fight between the child and the dragon, Green and North - the same man.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 15:01:47 No.8063295 >>8063250 >I prefer novels As in, not part of a series?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 15:13:30 No.8063341 >>8063295 As in, not short stories or novellas. It's fine if it's the beginning of a series, as long as it's interesting enough to pull me in from the beginning.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 15:59:53 No.8063502

>>8063341
For SciFi I'd start with The Pride of Chanur. A space opera with hardsf flavoring, from the alien's perspective.
For Fantasy I'd start with Fortress in the Eye of Time. Semi-epic fantasy with a focus on character development. Three main POVs with the main focus on a guileless summoned revenant.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 17:30:36 No.8063840 >>8055023 >saying "Tolkeinian" when you mean "Gygaxian" or "Brooksian" baka desu senpai

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 17:59:01 No.8063944 We were especially dead today. Is /sffg/ actually a bunch of normies, going out on a friday night? Disgusting. Don't ever talk to me or my thread again.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:04:12 No.8063967

>>8063944
I have nowhere to be tonight, anon.

Tomorrow night, on the other hand, I do.

And in a week or two I'm getting together with some friends who are happily married and raising a child together. We'll likely drink a reasonable amount, talk, and maybe watch a movie.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:10:14 No.8063988 >>8063967 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:11:50 No.8063997

>>8063967
>homosexual abuse of a child
disgusting
>>8063944
Yeah, not much to talk about. Read some Napolen of Notting Hill. Confused, but amused.
Studied for most of the day. Didn't go anywhere because of a storm. Was supposed to grab a beer with a friend, will do so tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:12:43 No.8064002 >>8063997 >homosexual They're a man and a woman. And the child isn't being abused. What?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:13:24 No.8064006 >>8064002 yeah keep telling that to your faggot friends

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:14:51 No.8064014 >>8064002 >I'm getting together with some friends who are happily married and raising a child together That's usually the codeword phrase for abusive homosexuals who bought a child. In this case it wasn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:16:55 No.8064022 >>8064014 Seriously? I was just trying to rub it in to that anon what kind of normies hang out in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:17:12 No.8064024 >>8063997 >not liking Stephen King wew lad >>8063944 Headed out to rock climb, but seriously fuck 2000 dude and dinosaur dude.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 18:20:27 No.8064036 >>8064022 Of course normies hang out here, who do you think are sandersonfags? >>8064024 What King? This is Chesterton.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 19:29:48 No.8064189 >>8064024 >>8058706

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 19:32:34 No.8064194

I read some book when I was 10 or 12, I never got to finish it because I lost it or something on a road trip but I can't remember what it was called.

>flashes back and forth between past and present
>sword dueling is like fencing with offhand daggers for disarming
>MC gets captured and forced to work in a mine
>wants revenge on the people that did that to him
>some portion of the planet has magic aurora borealis type shit, might have been toxic

plx help poor boy find book

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 19:32:50 No.8064197 File: 34 KB, 238x400, Call_of_Madness.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8063944 It's just been too dead to hang around, senpai.

Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 20:32:49 No.8064421

Can anyone recommend some fantasy that's D&Dish but good? What I mean is, four or five people on an adventure together, fighting monsters and shit, maybe trying to get rich or maybe trying to save the world or something else, I'm not picky, but not the Drizzt novels or anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 20:38:29 No.8064437 >>8064421 Guardians of the Flame.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 21:06:27 No.8064497 File: 93 KB, 318x474, Guardians_of_the_Flame.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8064437 I second this.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 21:12:38 No.8064511 File: 15 KB, 300x451, 1b0c765cfc460058a60d838e2315c5e2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What would you consider the difference between dark fantasy and outright horror?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 21:14:48 No.8064519 >>8064511 Is there any intent to create wonder besides in service of fear, at all? If so, it's probably dark fantasy. If not, it's probably horror.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 20, 2016 23:29:38 No.8064951 Does the lore of the Halo universe stay good after the plot of Halo 3? It's one of my favorite sci-fi settings.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 01:18:30 No.8065171 >completed my first short story a year and a half ago >in the time since I've only written 4 >i've started nearly 12 God I suck at this

Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 01:51:36 No.8065233
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>>8062137
It's not Japanese-themed but I finished this up a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty good. Basic premise is there was a lawless area that a not-Chinese guy went into with army and conquered and the main character is one of his secret policemen. After emperor's son succeeds him, the new emperor gets assassinated and the main character goes into retirement. Decades later conspiracies threaten to destroy the empire, so the dead emperor's sister gets him to come back and try to help stop everything from falling apart.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 02:05:16 No.8065265 >>8063967 Christ

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 02:24:50 No.8065307 >>8064189 >>>/b/ is that way kiddo >>8064036 I meant about homosexual abuse of a child, which is what about half his works are about. >>8064437 >>8064497 I third this. Much better than you'd expect. >>8065171 >completed Better than most of us.

Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 02:43:59 No.8065326

New Alastair Reynolds book blurb:
>The galaxy has seen great empires rise and fall. Planets have shattered and been remade. Amongst the ruins of alien civilisations, building our own from the rubble, humanity still thrives.

>And there are vast fortunes to be made, if you know where to find them ...

>Captain Rackamore and his crew do. It's their business to find the tiny, enigmatic worlds which have been hidden away, booby-trapped, surrounded with layers of protection - and to crack them open for the ancient relics and barely-remembered technologies inside. But while they ply their risky trade with integrity, not everyone is so scrupulous.

>Adrana and Fura Ness are the newest members of Rackamore's crew, signed on to save their family from bankruptcy. Only Rackamore has enemies, and there might be more waiting for them in space than adventure and fortune: the fabled and feared Bosa Sennen in particular.

>Revenger is a science fiction adventure story set in the rubble of our solar system in the dark, distant future - a tale of space pirates, buried treasure and phantom weapons, of unspeakable hazards and single-minded heroism ... and of vengeance ...

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 04:20:46 No.8065459 >>8058412 Why the fuck is the part corresponding to the Purelake mountainous? It's supposed to be six feet deep at the most, so its inverse should be fairly flat.

Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 04:24:24 No.8065467

>>8058675
I went on a binge of this dude's stuff a while back. It's all pretty good though I liked Echopraxia and the Rifters books less than Blindsight.

What are some similar authors? I've been kind of craving some more of that weird jargon-heavy hard science fiction stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 04:46:54 No.8065495 Anyone know something with a cool little girl as deuteragonist?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 04:48:18 No.8065499 File: 213 KB, 400x540, Messiah.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8065495 Why don't you just read Endymion, desu?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 04:51:44 No.8065502 >>8065499 Never heard of it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endymion_%28Simmons_novel%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endymion_%28Disraeli_novel%29 Which one? Also it better be as good as Shinsekai Yori

Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 05:04:19 No.8065519

>>8065502
No it's sadly pretty shitty compared to the rest of the Hyperion books.

It's barely like SSY at all other than the fact that both has a loli 'Messiah' (and that's where the similarities end completely, in fact it's much closer to Gundam than it is to SSY given the ships and the heavy focus on space magic allowing the power of UNDERSTANDING bridging space and time). The first part of Hyperion is very mythos orientated and has a whole bunch of references to things like Dying Earth.

Hyperion in itself is very much a scifi although admittedly it goes straight into dystopia in Endymion which is why the latter is arguably worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 06:59:29 No.8065694 File: 36 KB, 200x146, I know that Feel.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8064194 His dark materials? That plot sounds so generic it's not even funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 07:04:45 No.8065699 Well, I must admit some of the Blood Mirror twists did surprise me. I do feel like he's bloated it a lot so he had no choice but to make it into a 5 book series but that's probably a lack of foresight

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 07:06:51 No.8065703 >>8065699 Post cut off I wanted to say it's a really good book so far, he seems to be improving in his writing

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 07:07:19 No.8065704 >>8065699 >anon has an ARC RRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 07:33:44 No.8065735 >>8065704 It's definitely worth the wait. I'm glad he didn't wait until the last book to show us black AND white luxin drafting in PoV.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:15:46 No.8065799 >>8065704 I want an ARC so bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:26:59 No.8065821 ARCs are a spook

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:28:15 No.8065822 >>8065821 Please don't be rusing, upload pls ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:31:33 No.8065828 >>8065822 I might after he's made public announcement about it, or the publisher, and if some reviews to build up hype come out, I don't want to be the first.

Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:39:01 No.8065841

>>8065828
True anon. I'm glad to hear that his writing is improving though.

Man I wont deny the fact that I want to read it so bad but I just know that the instant I finish it I'll want to read more and the earlier I start the longer I have to wait for the next one. Books are worse than drugs.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:40:47 No.8065843 >>8065841 >I just know that the instant I finish it I'll want to read more and the earlier I start the longer I have to wait for the next one. Books are worse than drugs. Amen to that

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:45:17 No.8065850 >>8065735 >I'm glad he didn't wait until the last book to show us black AND white luxin drafting FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I have to wait till November fuck you anon and the horse you rode in on.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:46:01 No.8065852 Is Lightbringer good? I'm a bit suspect because the author has another series of the name "Night Angel" and it seems like he is a Reddit esque author in the vein of Riyria and Broken Empire. Is it more of that variety or actually better?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:47:48 No.8065855 >>8065852 Prose is bare bones but the plot is twisty and full of fun suffering.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:48:55 No.8065858 Can't wait to read the next Greg Egan. He's the best living sci-fi writer. G R E G R E G

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:49:19 No.8065861 >>8065855 So Sanderson except dark?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:49:26 No.8065862 >>8065850 >October 25th 2016 I-it'll come right? ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:49:35 No.8065863 >>8065852 It's a very good series, plot is godly, characters are so-so, some idiots are put off by the rape and how he deals with women

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:50:29 No.8065865 >>8065852 You might not like it, because you're always bitching about rape. >tfw no cannibal King to serve Why live?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:51:13 No.8065867 Any books where a loli gets raped?

Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:51:57 No.8065869

>>8065861
It's Sanderson except Sanderson doesn't have sex and Weeks deals with sex/rape in a cringe tier teenage fashion but don't worry you can page through it if you don't like it.

Night Angel doesn't use Sanderson's magic system though and I feel it's inferior to Lightbringer.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:52:30 No.8065870 >>8065861 Brent Weeks is GRI APPROVED. Sanderson doesn't even come close to the approval's minimum standard.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:54:46 No.8065874 >>8065867 Black Jewels Trilogy Please try to keep your dick out of your hands.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:57:36 No.8065880 >>8065869 >not wanting a sentient symbiotic armor who you can speak to Next thing you're going to say is that you don't want the extended life and healing capabilities it gives you.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 08:59:07 No.8065883 >>8065880 Just because it's inferior, it doesn't mean that I didn't love my hardcopies to death. ;_;

Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 09:04:34 No.8065897

>>8065883
Do you think the armor is alien in origin?

What you think happened to Ezra? You think we will get a sequel for Night Angel or maybe a prequel?
Michael J Sullivan did something like that, after the books ended he wrote prequels in the same world.
Imagine prequels with durzo.

Who hyped for AGE of Myth next month?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 09:17:53 No.8065921 >>8065920 >>8065920 >>8065920 >>8065920 NEW THREAD

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 21, 2016 12:28:46 No.8066441 >>8065858 Where to start with him? Permutation City?

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