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What does /lit/ think of this?

>> No.7958011

>>7957996
NGE is supposed to be at the bottom. Past the San Andreas Fault.

>> No.7958012
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>> No.7958013

>>7957996
>tfw you've sort of hit level six with the burroughs and mcelroy
bow down

>> No.7958016

>>7957996
Cool list.

>> No.7958044

>>7957996

This is a list by someone who thinks reading is hard.

>> No.7958055

>>7958012
GR isn't more ironic than FYAD

>> No.7958065

>>7958044
This is a post by someone who thinks reading is easy.

>> No.7958082

>>7958012
A better novel for the bottom of this pic would probably be Giles Goat-Boy

>> No.7958095

>>7958012
where would Socrates be?

>> No.7958101

>>7958013
>mfw I've read every author from level 4 to 6
Get on my level.

>> No.7958204

>>7958082
>Giles Goat-Boy
Jesus Christ that sounds good.

>> No.7958206

>>7958204
It is.

>> No.7958214

>>7958095
in the white space on the right

>> No.7958221

>>7958065
yeah this. no matter how much elitism there is on this board, if we allow that reading is easy then it is not only elitism, it is also baseless. reading is not easy. reading well, anyway. it requires patience, willpower, ingenuity, nimbleness of thought, and, in extreme cases, profound feats of memory.

>> No.7958226

>>7957996
>no Hunter S Thompson
>no Murakami
>no Wolfe
Shit list my dude

>> No.7958238

>>7958226
terrible bait

>> No.7958239
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7958239

>>7957996

>MFW almost 30 and I've only got as far as level 4 thanks to 'To The Lighthouse'

>> No.7958240

>>7958226
No, you just have shit taste.

>> No.7958269

>>7958226
The top of the pic is already a bit crowded tbf

>> No.7958280
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7958280

>>7957996
How is Late Era Joyce "entirely incomprehensible" and "generally unread"? Finnegan's Wake is pretty commonly regarded as a masterpiece.

>> No.7958283

>>7958280
It's ridiculously hard to read and largely unknown to people.

>> No.7958285

>>7958280
How would you know when you can't even get the title right?

>> No.7958289
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>> No.7958298

>>7958280
>How is Late Era Joyce "entirely incomprehensible" and "generally unread"? Finnegan's Wake is pretty commonly regarded as a masterpiece.
Spoken like someone who has never read Finnegans** Wake.

>> No.7958307

>>7957996
>Theroux
>"incoherent"
>every word after "you" in that paragraph

This is all too much

>> No.7958311

>>7958289
What the fuck is the last one?

>> No.7958314

>>7958280
>'

>> No.7958318

>>7958012
where does zizek go?

>> No.7958321

>>7958226
Murakami is already on that pic

>> No.7958330

>>7958318
in the trash

>> No.7958365

>>7958311
Ray O Light is a communist party in the USA. They don't have a film making group, the term is just intentionally made to sound incredibly oddball and weird.

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>>7957996
>implying there's some direct linear correlation between degree of literary merit and how experimental and "incomprehensible" something is
>Carver at the very top
>"strive for artistic internecine" like wtf "internecine" is an adjective you stupid cunt

A total joke. This whole shit triggers me.

>> No.7958375

>>7958280
i love it when pseuds expose themselves with posts like this

>> No.7958383

>>7958371
>implying the picture is implying that
>implying Carver is experimental
>implying the maker didn't put that in just to trigger people like you

>> No.7958390

>>7958318
He isn't ironic, he's just a bullshitter

>> No.7958392

>>7958390
>>7958371
>>7958330
>>7958321
>>7958307
>>7958298
>>7958289
>>7958285
>>7958283
samefag

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>>7958392
I'm only two of those people. Honestly not sure what your criteria for calling samefag here was

>> No.7958407

>>7958371
I too was triggered. Doubly so by Eco being so far down the list.

>> No.7958409
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>>7958289
Where is Jan Švankmajer on that list?

>> No.7958418

>>7958390
>implying most high literature isn't complete shitposting

>> No.7958422

>>7958405
it's a dip, you meme

>>7958407
t. hasn't read eco

>> No.7958428

>>7958422
That was kind of a lame meme.

>> No.7958430

I read until late-era Joyce but I'd argue Andrei Bely is more of Tier 4 with William Faulkner. It's not as if Benjy's chapter in The Sound and the Fury is easy, or Absalom, Absalom! as easy to understand.

I'm not familiar with a lot of the authors in the lower level, but I think The Beetle Leg is smack in Tier 6.

>> No.7958441

>>7957996
where does Bulgakov fit into this?

>> No.7958444

Where would kant and nietzsche be?

>> No.7958445

>>7957996
How is Bolaño at the same level of difficulty as Borges?

>> No.7958455
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>>7958383
Oh so you made that pile of shit and are offended that everyone thinks it's ridiculous because you actually think it's clever or something.

>> No.7958463

>>7958455
>implying this is a new picture
How new are you?

>> No.7958469

>>7958012
>FYAD

lmao when was this made, 2005?

FYAD has been horseshit for 10 years

>> No.7958476

>>7958469
I always thought it was best in 2006-2010, but have still enjoyed it since, it's just really slow now

>> No.7958483

>>7958476
i lost any ability to enjoy it when i realised that most of the hip cool fyad faggots were actually taking the internet SO unironically that they ended up spawning tumblr

tons of them were just over-the-hill whiny slacktivists with affected typing styles

>> No.7958525

>>7958483
Sounds like you're just upset that some of them are politically engaged. IMO the pinnacle of the forum was the Zybourne Clock parodies and this thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3028383

>> No.7958600

>>7958463
How does that imply that's a new picture? Like I implied Carver was experimental? You need to spend less time on /lit/ and more time brushing up on your reading comprehension, you fucking muppet.

>> No.7958604

>>7957996

>Lowry somehow level 4 despite level 0 clearly establishing YA fiction as being level -1
>Woolf and Pynchon anying below level 2

>> No.7958622

>>7958444
neitzche level 1
kant level 2

>> No.7958623

>>7958604
The bait is f**king real

>> No.7958695

>>7958622
>kant harder than neitzche

>> No.7958712

>>7957996

joyce is shit

>> No.7958715

>>7958012
is gravity's rainbow good

>> No.7959001

>>7958715
Yes.

>> No.7959034

>>7958012
please, FYAD is entirely accessible to most 4chan users

>> No.7959053

>>7959034
Only the ones who watch Sam Hyde.

>> No.7959120

>>7958289
Brakhage being higher up than Mekas and Anger horribly triggers me. Besides, where are Tsukamoto, Ishii, Robert Todd?

>> No.7959161

>>7958095
I believe you needed to have written books to be on the list.

>> No.7959288

>>7957996
>> talented readers

You have a talent... for reading?

>> No.7959291
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>> No.7959300

What is this supposed to be measuring? Literary merit? Complexity? How much time you have to waste?

>> No.7959524

It's fucking idiotic.

>> No.7959533

No Proust

waste of time

>> No.7959598
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>>7957996

Nabokov and Sorokin are meme authors in Russia.

>> No.7959607

>>7958409
Just watched that, it's pretty great. Thanks!

>> No.7959623

>Joyce is incomprehensible

How the fuck did this person figure out how to use a computer, let alone use paint?

>> No.7960027

>>7959533
look better memester

>> No.7960170

>>7959300
It's really just a measure of how hard or experimental the authors are.

>> No.7961136

>>7959623
"Joyce (late era)" refers exclusively to Finnegans Wake, while "middle era" is Ulysses. The Joyce of Dubliners and Portrait would probably be around levels 2-3.

>> No.7961581

>>7961136
this

>> No.7961630

>>7957996
>no Rulfo
Fucking pathetic anglocentric chart to be honest, my dear relative

>> No.7961640

>>7958289
Where is Duras?

>> No.7961682

>>7958012
kill yourself

>> No.7961697

Is Eliot ts or George?

>> No.7961904

>>7961697
George, I think.

>> No.7961990

>>7958082
>Giles Goat-Boy
The literary equivalent of Frog Fractions.

>> No.7962001

What is considered late era Nabokov

>> No.7962101

>>7961990
I don't know what that is.

>> No.7962114

>>7962001
Pale Fire, I think.

>> No.7962193

>>7961990
OK I looked this up and that's a fair point

>> No.7962238

Rankings: fine, useful.

Sidebar that says what the rankings mean and implies that harder means better: dumb.

>> No.7962627

>>7959161
It's an irony list

>> No.7962628

>>7962001
>>7962114

pale fire is mid-late, ada is late

>> No.7962646

>>7959607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDpssHE0R4

>> No.7963120

>>7957996
>no shakespeare

>> No.7963122

>>7957996
awful list

>> No.7963315

>>7957996
>Conrad barely at the top of "Level 0"

I hope this is i r o n i c.

>> No.7963326

>>7963315
The list is a measure of difficulty and experimentation, not quality.

>> No.7963687

>>7963326
Read the descriptions of the levels, they obviously promote the idea that harder is better.

>> No.7963749

>>7957996
It's shit

>> No.7964241

>>7958204
It is.

>> No.7964268

>>7958289
I'm not even a cinephile by any measurable margin and yet I like Debord, Isou and post-66 Godard

>> No.7964285

>>7958012
Gravity's Rainbow is no more ironic as The Simpsons, fucking kill yourself

>> No.7964297

>>7957996
> no Salinger

>> No.7964431

>>7964297
Salinger is not even in the water.

>> No.7964481
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7964481

>>7958371
but it is an adjective ?

>> No.7964554

>>7957996

Shakespeare?

>> No.7964592

strange, weird, experimental ==/== deep, intellectual, valuable

go back to your abstract art galleries you pretentious plebs in disguise

>> No.7964845

>>7958012
Confirmed for never having read Gravity's Rainbow

psychedelic =/= ironic
in fact GR is maybe most at fault for being too blunt and unsubtle with its values

>> No.7964871

No Mann? Shit list.

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>>7957996
Claiming joyce is the best literature in history is a bit of a fucking stretch lmao.

>> No.7964885

>>7958012
This image was made by a moron who thinks he's smart for following lol so random twitter accounts

>> No.7964906

>>7964879
>innacessability = quality

yikes we found another

>> No.7964912

>>7964879
>an anime fan posts judgement on quality

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>>7964906
>>7964912
trolled

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>>7964879
Who cares dude its just books.

>> No.7964967

>>7958012
>filthy frank
someone post the "I'm 16 and my humor is so fucking superior" image

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>>7964967

>> No.7965053

>>7964981
George Carlin was a great comedian before he decided to become an Atheist prophet.

>> No.7965099

>>7964885
The worst thing about it is the creator of the image doesn't realize that dril is easily more ironic than anyone listed in WT 2 or 3, and is only put so high because he's the most popular one

>> No.7965111

>>7964981
Is Weird Twitter in here somewhere, because I'm not looking for it