/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.787066]

I imagine /lit/ looks like this.

[Anonymous No.787089]

not necessarily, I for one am Ásatrú....

[Anonymous No.787112]

lit is full of fat ugly fucks

[Anonymous No.787114]

>>787112
Well yes, that's obvious...

[Anonymous No.787116]

I'm no fucking atheist. HAIL ERIS!

[Anonymous No.787121]

>>787116
ALL HAIL DISCORDIA!

[Anonymous No.787122]

Muslim here. And before you make any wild accusations, yes, I am a radical terrorist.

[Anonymous No.787138]

Atheism is a religion as much as bald is a hair color. Fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.787146]

>>787138
You clearly do not understand the definition of religion.

[Anonymous No.787149]

That's not true.

[Anonymous No.787152]

>>787146
Religion is the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship,[1] usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Atheism = a lack of theism.

[Anonymous No.787155]

I Imagine /lit/ looks like this

[Anonymous No.787156]

>>787138
>>787146
>>787149
>>787152
not this again

[Anonymous No.787158]

>>787122
I lol'd.

[Anonymous No.787161]

im not fat.
and i dont look like a faggot.
woo yeah.

[Anonymous No.787162]

>>787122
And here I thought I was the only Muslim on /lit/...

[Anonymous No.787166]

but i look like this.

[Anonymous No.787170]

>>787112
everyone thinks this of every board on 4chan
it isnt true

[Anonymous No.787171]

Is considering oneself a god atheism?

[Anonymous No.787172]

>>787166
lol pretty much the same actually just not white.

[Anonymous No.787175]

>>787121
And may you climb your tower to the top floor.

[Carlos !penisASZp2 No.787183]

I believe in a different kind of god.

[Anonymous No.787187]

fucking quaker reporting in.

[Anonymous No.787203]

you guys are messed up, i'm goin back to /b/ where it's safe

[Fowlawneeshafow !o05RwazELc No.787210]

Pantheist here.
Saying gods don't exist is equivalent to saying the universe doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.787215]

>>787171
Only if you don't believe in your existence.

[Anonymous No.787216]

>>787155

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUhOjib17W4

[Anonymous No.787220]

>>787175
wat?

[Anonymous No.787256]

23 23 23 23 23

[Anonymous No.787263]

>>787210
Nope. We have solid proof that the universe exists (protip: you're living in it). God(s), not so much. Only unexplained phenomena that religious nuts will automatically attribute to magic.

[Anonymous No.787270]

>>787263
PROVE THAT I'M LIVING IN THE UNIVERSE

[Anonymous No.787279]

>>787215
I'm not very certain

[Anonymous No.787281]

Arguing with an atheist is a little like arguing with a religious fundamentalist. The best course of action is to let them think they're right and move on.

[Anonymous No.787285]

>>787270
Oh my god, you just took your first college philosophy class, didn't you? Fucking christ.

[Anonymous No.787307]

>>787270

Sure, Philosophy is fun, but let's drink beer and have sex with girls instead.

[Anonymous No.787314]

>>787285
>I can't prove that anyone is living, anyone is living in the universe, or that the universe exists, so I resort to ad hominem

fascinating tale, chap

[Anonymous No.787349]

>>787314
If you don't believe the universe exists, you're either arguing for the sake of arguing or are fucking retarded. Actually, those are pretty much the same now that I think about it.
I experience the universe in five different senses. It could all be fake and life could be some sort of dream-like state, but there's no LOGICAL reason to conclude that. I can look outside my window and see my quiet little neighborhood outside, I can hear and feel the fan oscillating ten feet away from me, I can taste the gum I'm chewing right now, and once I get hungry enough, I'll walk into the kitchen and smell whatever it is I decide to start cooking. There's no fucking reason to assume that any of these things are fake or that they don't exist when they're clearly right there in front of me.

[Anonymous No.787351]

>>787210
lol no.

[Anonymous No.787356]

>>787349
Second, I wish Nietzsche was taught second year.

[Anonymous No.787359]

>>787307
i'mokaywiththis.jpg

[Anonymous No.787379]

What if we are all secondary characters in someone elses story?

[Anonymous No.787387]

>>787379
we aren't even secondary, we're all merely generic background characters.

[Anonymous No.787391]

>>787285
What's the matter chump, can't do it? Yea, that's what I thought. Thanks for coming out though.

[Anonymous No.787392]

>>787387

then...who is the main character? how do we know?

[Anonymous No.787398]

>>787392
Do we need to know? I mean do background characters in literature acknowledge the fact that they're background characters? I'd assume not, but I'm not really sure. God may exist, he may not, who gives a fuck? We'll all find out some day, so I'm biding my time until it happens.

[Anonymous No.787399]

>>787391
see
>>787349

[Anonymous No.787400]

>>787349
>I experience it, therefore it must be true
>I'm fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.787410]

>>787400
I don't even know what to say. The stupidity of what you just said is just so overwhelming.

[Anonymous No.787415]

>>787155

Mom?

[Anonymous No.787435]

>>787400
It seems like you're arguing for some sort of Berkley-like idea that we can't know anything to be true. You can believe that if you want, but it's stupid too. You clearly don't believe this, because you aren't drinking gasoline of jumping off tall buildings, or picking fights with random people, because yuo believe these things are real, based on your past experiences. Experience has taught you that fire is hot, and knowledge from other people has taught you that drinking poison is bad. You believe these things, you believe in an outside world like the rest of us, and the fact you haven't killed yourself yet becuase you think that truck driving down the road really isn't there so you step in front of it, proves it.

[Anonymous No.787443]

God doesn't exist, faggots. It's not a debate.

[Anonymous No.787458]

>>787443
Right. Religious fags never seem to want to accept the burden of proof.

[Anonymous No.787481]

>>787435
Just because fire is hot, and I'll feel pain if I get burned, or I'll die if I jump off tall buildings doesn't mean we're not the collective dream of a sleeping alien.

[Anonymous No.787495]

lit kinda looks like this

[Anonymous No.787506]

>>787481
But of course, you have solid reasons for believing our existence is fake. Please share.

[Anonymous No.787510]

>>787481
>life is a dream
>die if I jump off tall buildings
Seriously, do you know how retarded you sound?

[Anonymous No.787544]

>>787481
If there are no practical consequences whatsoever, then it's not interesting/worthwhile to speculate about.

[Anonymous No.787551]

>>787481
You're arguments are fucking stupid. They're based on the assumption that anything that isn't 100% improbable is just as legitimate as the much more probable explanations. You have absolutely no reason to believe that we are living in a dream, and you have every reason to believe that the world you experience does exist (via your five senses that connect you to the world around you). There's no reason to believe that unicorns exist, but just because you can't objectively prove that they don't exist doesn't mean that it's a legitimate theory that they do. You have to have logical reasons for believing shit, not just wild assumptions because you're trying to look intellectual.

[Anonymous No.787566]

This thread has nothing to do with literature. Also, anyone who wears an atheist shirt is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.787605]

Atheism = cool
Obnoxious, "oh, you're a christian? Let me tell you why you're wrong" atheism = fucking lame

[Anonymous No.787661]

>>787605
This.

[Anonymous No.787680]

>>787551
1000 years ago we have no reason to believe that atoms or electrons existed. We have no idea how the process of crystallization in the atmosphere worked and we thought lightning was the work of gods. It was logical to believe a supernatural being was responsible for that stuff now, but now we know better. Don't pretend to assert that reality is the way it is when you only have your five senses to go by.

[Fowlawneeshafow !o05RwazELc No.787687]

It sounds like many of you do not know what pantheism is.

For shame.

[Anonymous No.787718]

>>787680
How do we "know better" if not by using our 5 senses to learn about the world? I don't understand what you're saying, because it sounds like you're saying "you can't trust anything to be real...we used to be ignorant but now we know more about reality" which is just silly.

[Anonymous No.787733]

>>787680

>has not heard of Democritus

[Anonymous No.787735]

>>787718
I'm saying we know more about the properties of our universe than we did in the past. We use our five senses for this, yes, and using the scientific method to advance our understanding is important. BUT, that doesn't give any more actual validity to the universe. Of course it's real to us, but it would seem that way when you're a brain in a vat....

[Anonymous No.787737]

>>787680

>"Don't pretend to assert that reality is the way it is when you only have your five senses to go by."


>does not know that all modern technology is an extension of the human senses

[Anonymous No.787739]

>>787735
>paul feyerabend laughs at your 'scientific method'

[Anonymous No.787746]

>>787737
Okay....and that proves the universe exists, how?

[Anonymous No.787751]

>>787680
Again, you're going off assumptions. You apparently assume that someday we'll be able to prove that reality as we know it doesn't exist, and that therefore makes your assumptions valid. It doesn't. If someone thousands of years ago thought everything was made up of atoms because of the singular reason "uhhhhhhh, you can't prove it's not!", then yeah, they'd be fucking retarded too. And I'll assert that reality is the way it is because five senses are all we have to go by, they're the only way we can experience the world around us. Unfortunately for you, you don't have any fucking senses to perceive how fake reality is, you don't have any tools that measure the unreality of your world. You just have these stupid, stupid assumptions based on absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.787756]

>>787605

And what about the other 99% of Atheists who don't even bother to engage you?

[Anonymous No.787757]

>>787735
ok i'm done arguing with kids now. you can't say we know more about the world, and we can't know anything about the world, and believe both things.

[Anonymous No.787758]

>>787737
since when is shit like quantum teleportation an extension of the human sense

[Anonymous No.787760]

>>787751
Yep, just assumptions. So until you can prove you're not a figment of my imagination your accusations are meaningless.

[Anonymous No.787762]

>>787756
I counted that as just "atheism"

[Anonymous No.787764]

>>787746

i think solipsism is a bit retarded. I pondered over the whole idea for a bit, and ill admit i struggled over it for a while but then it hit me. If im some semi-amnesiac god who likes to torture himself by not being rich and happy, and im the only thing in existence, what in gods names defines what i am? You can't have backgrounds without foregrounds or innies without outies or Me's without others- and thats when i became a hindu.

Yes your a brain in a vat, and that vat is your body, and whose existence is supported by the whole universe- get with it cartesianfag.

[Anonymous No.787765]

>atheism is a religion
>atheism by definition a lack of religion

[Anonymous No.787767]

>>787758

telepathy, bitch

[Anonymous No.787769]

>>787757
Yes you can. For example, the structure or even the existence of DNA wasn't known until decades ago. It's helped us enormously in understanding ourselves. These are properties of the universe we're coming to understand. Now, WHAT the universe is can never be known, which is what I'm arguing. You can't say we're not a video game.

[Anonymous No.787770]

>>787765
>atheist by definition is a lack of belief in God

[Anonymous No.787771]

>>787765
Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities

from wikipedia

>further rebuttal
However, religious and spiritual belief systems, such as some forms of Buddhism, that do not advocate belief in gods have also been described as atheistic.

[Anonymous No.787774]

>>787769
>For example, the structure or even the existence of DNA wasn't known until decades ago.
the shamans would disagree with you.

[Anonymous No.787776]

>>787760
No, until YOU can prove that reality isn't reality, YOUR accusations are meaningless. The burden of proof isn't on me, motherfucker, you're the one who hasn't offered so much as a SHRED of evidence to support your views, which are the illogical views not supported by life experience in the first place. Just give me one GOOD reason why anyone should even begin to suspect that life isn't anything more than a dream. And AGAIN, "You can't prove it isn't!" isn't a fucking reason.

[Anonymous No.787781]

>>787770
which is a religious concept...

[Anonymous No.787782]

>>787769
First you were saying that we can't know the universe exists outside of ourselves (brain in a vat), now you're saying that we can know things about the universe, but not at some metaphysical level. And if you want to assert that the universe is something other than it appears to be, you're going to have to provide evidence. Yes, I can say the universe isn't a video game, because there's no evidence that it is.Furthermore, you also know the universe isn't a videogame, because you act, in your day to day life, the same as i do, assuming the unvierse is real.

[Anonymous No.787787]

>>787781
what the fuck, prophetic weather conditions is a religious concept but the 8'o clock weathermen on channel 23 isnt a defacto catholic

[Anonymous No.787788]

>>787781
>nonbelief in god
>religious concept

Seriously, are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.787789]

>>787776
lol why u mad bro? When did I ever say that life being a dream was a fact and that I had proof for it? Of course I don't. The option is there and it's entirely possible. Do you always get this angry when someone has a different opinion than you? lol

[Anonymous No.787798]

>>787787
>channel 23
>i see what you did there

[Anonymous No.787801]

>>787782
Your argument about me not jumping off buildings and stuff isn't valid because just because life might be a video game doesn't mean it doesn't have consequences. People die in games. If we're all the figment of OP's imagination, maybe he's a cruel bastard who likes people to feel pain when they get burned or die when they get hit by a truck.

[Anonymous No.787815]

>>787789
>no proof
>it's an option
Nope, you have to have at least a little proof before you can consider something possible. You can't say "I've never seen a centaur before, but it's entirely possible that they exist. Why? Well, because you can't prove they don't exist." Gather evidence before you consider possibilities. Reality is reality, plain and fucking simple.
And it's not that you have a different opinion, it's that you have a retarded opinion, again, based on nothing.

[Anonymous No.787823]

>>787801
Yeah, but it's a video game, dude, the consequences are fake too, you'll just respawn in another life.

[Anonymous No.787828]

>>787823
Maybe. Reincarnation might be onto something.

[Anonymous No.787830]

>>787787
I'll break it down as simply as possible
a=without
theism=religion

[Anonymous No.787832]

>>787828
Scientific experiment here: You try it out and report back to us if it works.

[Anonymous No.787836]

>>787830
>Theism in the broadest sense is the belief that at least one deity exists

learn to google, bro

[Anonymous No.787838]

>>787815
>thinks reality is a simple relationship of senses and cognition.
>thinks cognition accurately reflects reality.

[Anonymous No.787839]

>>787815
lol, man you have no imagination. A FACT IS A FACT IS A FACT END OF STORY NO ROOM FOR ANYTHING ELSE!!!! Dream a little bit man. It's improbable that something that centaurs exist because it's hard for us to imagine something alluding our sights for so long. Same with any mythical creature, we assume we would've found it by now. However, for something as grand as the nature of the universe, we might still be in the early stages in our understanding.

[Anonymous No.787850]

>>787839
alluding our sights
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[Anonymous No.787853]

>>787839
But if you have not even a sliver of evidence, you're deluding yourself. Probably because you're weak and will never amount to anything, and thus cannot measure value by its only standard, yourself. Good luck failing, untermensch.

[Anonymous No.787856]

>>787836
that actually bolsters what I said, thanks.

[Anonymous No.787859]

ITT people not realizing that our "lives" are a facade and that real life is just the passing on of our genes.

[Anonymous No.787863]

>>787850
I think you meant to greentext that.

Also

>no argument
>point out spelling mistakes instead
>claim victory

[Anonymous No.787867]

no that's /r9k/.

[Anonymous No.787869]

>>787853
So much hate. I hope you're not this hateful to everyone who disagrees with you.

[Anonymous No.787880]

>>787856
>Religion (Latin religare, "to bind") is the belief in and worship of a god or gods
okay, so far so good
>, or any such system of belief and worship, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs
oh and a loss for your argument.

[Anonymous No.787891]

>>787880
>or any such system of belief and worship

Are you arguing that this means having any sort of belief in something makes it a religion? Like if I believed in gravity, does that make me a gravitist?

[Anonymous No.787896]

>>787891
since you don't worship gravity, no. don't bring semantics into this.

[Anonymous No.787906]

>>787896
So please to explain what atheists worship? Apparently I've been doing it wrong :P

[Anonymous No.787908]

>>787906

My boner

[Anonymous No.787914]

>>787908
I can assure you, sir, they do not.

[Anonymous No.787917]

>>787914

Looks like it's time to Evangelize

[Anonymous No.787928]

I was an atheist before I was smart.
My parents weren't stupid.

Also atheism is the lack of religion, not a religion in istelf.

[Anonymous No.787931]

Atheism is like an iMac. It doesn't do shit, uninformed people buy into it and it will cost you dearly in the end.

[Anonymous No.787937]

>>787931

Pascal's wager earns you an automatic fail. If you want to troll, learn to do it correctly.

[Anonymous No.787938]

>>787931
Troll harder

[Anonymous No.787945]

>>787931
DEVIL GONNA GET US!

[Anonymous No.787948]

>>787906
i don't know what you worship. maybe an ideal of scientific advancement. maybe nothing. But your atheism does not preclude a lack of religion. If we were to move beyond defintions from wikipedia, in order to escape such semantic traps, you would see this.

[Anonymous No.787952]

>>787948
So are you saying it's impossible to not worship something? Because that's essentially what you're saying. If atheism isn't a lack of religion then we can't escape it at all?

[Anonymous No.787955]

>>787948
People like you should have a whole separate internet.

[Anonymous No.787961]

Atheism is a lack of belief in god/gods. It's not a lack of religion. You can have a lack of belief in god/gods and still be a Buddhist.

[Anonymous No.787962]

>>787952

No matter how you try to escape it, a longing for God is not a belief but a human condition.

[Anonymous No.787976]

>>787962
Yeah, don't try to tell me what I long for. K? K.

[Anonymous No.787984]

>>787962
What does that have to do with atheism being a religion or not? Under your own admission you said atheists worship "maybe nothing." And in that definition you yourself pulled up you said a religion must believe in a god (nope) and worship it (nope) I fail to see how atheism meets those requirements.

[Anonymous No.787989]

>>787138
fuck you

do you see what you do to /lit/? fuck you

[Anonymous No.787995]

>religion troll thread
>120 replies

When I go to see the wonderful Wizard, I'm going to wish for a brain for /lit/.

[Anonymous No.788000]

>>787995
CAN YOU PROVE THAT BRAINS EXIST

[Anonymous No.788005]

>>787984

Atheism is a religion because it relies on a bunch of assumptions like nothing created everything which cannot be proven. Ah, but when a religion is proven (like by the work of Christian apologetics) it becomes reality. You should read their work, very interesting. Makes you want to think.

[Anonymous No.788006]

>>788000
PROVE THAT BRAINS DON'T EXIST

[Anonymous No.788008]

>>788005
2/10. You had me going for minute, but still too obvious.

[Anonymous No.788010]

>>788005
Atheism has nothing to do with trying to explain how the universe began. That's science, which is completely separate. Atheism is just the rejection of religion as a legitimate source of truth. That's it.

[Anonymous No.788012]

>>788006
PROVE THAT EXIST DON'T BRAINS

[Anonymous No.788021]

>>788012
BRAINS DON'T EXIST THAT PROVE

[Anonymous No.788024]

go back to r9k plz.

[Anonymous No.788026]

>>788021
EVORP TAHT TSIXE T'NOD SNIARB

[Anonymous No.788057]

You all niggas...

[Anonymous No.788061]

I don't wear glasses, I' m not fat and I' don't have greasy hair.

But I am an atheist. But not an obnoxious one.

[Anonymous No.788082]

[Anonymous No.788102]

>>787146
>>787138
actually he's dead on.
herrr.

[Anonymous No.788106]

wtf does this have to do with books?

[Anonymous No.788134]

>>788106
Books have been written on the subject. See >>788044

[Anonymous No.788143]

>>788082
isnt it kind of egocentric and prideful to say the entire universe was created for one species?

[Anonymous No.788145]

>>788143
Learn2sarcasm?

[Anonymous No.788149]

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cannot face palm hard enough

[Anonymous No.788313]

[Anonymous No.788320]

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[Anonymous No.788336]

>>788313
>>788313
>>788313
this and hindu gods are the hottest. I think there's even a few trap gods in hinduism. fucks yeah!

[Anonymous No.788418]

>>788057
amidoinitrite?

Seriously /lit/. I thought better of you. Can't you tell a thread filled with trolls from a thread filled with morons?