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Post comfy philosophers, lads.

>> No.7842673
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eastern champion coming through

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8. The Art of Life

Yen-Ping-Chung asked Kuan-Yi-Wu as to cherishing life.

Kuan-Yi-Wu replied: “It suffices to give it its free course, neither checking nor obstructing it.”

Yen-Ping-Chung said: “And as to details?”

Kuan-Yi-Wu replied: “Allow the ear to hear what it likes, the eye to see what it likes, the nose to smell what it likes, the mouth to say what it likes, the body to enjoy the comforts it likes to have, and the mind to do what it likes.

“Now what the ear likes to hear is music, and the prohibition of it is what I call obstruction to the ear.

“What the eye likes to look at is beauty; and its not being permitted to regard this beauty I call obstruction of sight.

“What the nose likes to smell is perfume; and its not being permitted to smell I call obstruction to scent.

“What the mouth likes to talk about is right and wrong; and if it is not permitted to speak I call it obstruction of the understanding.

“The comforts the body enjoys to have are rich food and fine clothing; and if it is not permitted, then I call that obstruction of the senses of the body.

“What the mind likes is to be at peace; and its not being permitted rest I call obstruction of the mind's nature.

“All these obstructions are a source of the most painful vexation.

“Morbidly to cultivate this cause of vexation, unable to get rid of it, and so have a long but very sad life of a hundred, a thousand, or ten thousand years, is not what I call cherishing life.

“But to check this source of obstruction and with calm enjoyment to await death for a day, a month, or a year or ten years, is what I understand by enjoying life.”

Kuan-Yi-Wu said: “Since I have told you about cherishing life, please tell me how it is with the burial of the dead.”

Yen-Ping-Chung said: “Burying the dead is but of very little importance. What shall I tell you about it?”

Kuan-Yi-Wu replied: “I really wish to hear it.”

Yen-Ping-Chung answered: “What can I do when I am dead? They may burn my body, or cast it into deep water, or inter it, or leave it uninterred, or throw it wrapped up in a mat into some ditch, or cover it with princely apparel and embroidered garments and rest it in a stone sarcophagus. All that depends on mere chance.”

Kuan-Yi-Wu looked round at Pao-Shu-huang-tse and said to him: “Both of us have made some progress in the doctrine of life and death.”

>> No.7842706

>>7842645
Seneca

"Disaster is Virtue's opportunity. Justly may those be termed unhappy who are dulled by an excess of good fortune, who rest, as it were, in dead calm upon a quiet sea; whatever happens will come to them as a change."

>> No.7842879

>>7842706
that sounds rather grim rather than comfy

>> No.7842892

What causes the rift between stoics and epicureans?

>> No.7842934

Read based Epicurus

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>>7842645

I'm stretching the definition a bit but it still works

>> No.7843081

>>7842892
Stoics: There is a divine order that you can or can not conform to, but you should conform to it because that's the way of nature maaaan

Epicureans: There's a bunch of atoms and shit, no particular order or greater scheme but good feels feel good and bad feels feel bad, so you should maximise good feels and minimise bad feels by not longing for superfluous stuff and enjoying little basic things and cultivate wisdom and chill with your friends and don't get caught up in drama.

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>>7842694
Good stuff. That picture really works in this websites format as well.

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If it's not pic related then there are none.

>> No.7843299

>>7843155
freddy 'nervous breakdown' nai-e-tse is anticomfy

>> No.7843726

>>7843299
>Looking over his elegant writing style
The man could write a paragraph about my torture and i'd still read it next to a fire wrapped in a blanket.

>> No.7843744

>>7842706
>Seneca
>"Disaster is Virtue's opportunity. Justly"
What does he mean by that specifically? That the attainment of virtue can only happen if you have endured disaster?

>> No.7845358

>>7843744
Yes. People who never have trouble in their lives are unequipped to handle misfortune. He also uses the metaphor of Fortune testing only the worthy in the same way that military commanders give the most dangerous missions to the best.

Stoics.