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I heard this book was very difficult, but when I saw it in the library today I read the first couple pages and it was delightful. The prose literally delighted me. Should I check it out next time I go?

>> No.7823770

yes, it's great

>> No.7823771

>>7823762
hell yeah man. mann is a master. and the best part is after you finish that mammoth he has three other door-stopper masterpieces in Dr Faustus, Buddenbrooks, and Joseph & His Brothers.

>> No.7823782

>>7823762
Yes: it is one of the greatest masterpieces in all of history. William Gass, author of another one of the greatest masterpieces in all of history--The Tunnel--even put ranked 25 in his "Fifty Literary Pillars."

>> No.7823783

It isn't really difficult but nonetheless an absolute masterpiece. shit will hit the fan once Settembrini appears

/teamnaptha/ here desu

>> No.7823786

>>7823782
*ranked it

>> No.7824012

ulysses tier

>> No.7824022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BE0_noMsqE

>> No.7824114

Best translation?

>> No.7824122

>>7824114
Woods

>> No.7824185

I hate when people describe books as comfy but
man is that book comfy

>> No.7824220

Really good book. Only difficulty comes from the conversations with Settembrini and Naphta but if you've taken any European history class it should not be that difficult to see what they are saying. Classical allusions throughout, but not really a ton. It's accessible and totally comfy.

>> No.7824265

It helps to be familiar with Platonic dialogues too.

>> No.7824328

>>7823782
Damn Gassposter, this is your most shameless plug yet.

>> No.7824357

>>7824328
I admit, it doesn't match my normal post quality, but I was eating a double bacon cheeseburger while wrote it.

>> No.7824794

>>7823762
Why is it considered difficult? Is it the prose?

>> No.7824828

>>7824357
Was the cheese double or the bacon? It both? Malnourished shit-worlder here.

>> No.7824847

>>7823783
Peeperkorn 2bh.

Memery aside, that whole chapter went WHOOSH over my head. I had no idea why Mann decided to include Peeperkorn. To show that hedonism wasn't a philosophically tenable position in the 20th century? Would like some input here.

>> No.7825008

OP are you >>7824833?

I've read Doctor Faustus not long ago, now I'm planning to do Buddenbrooks->Magic Mountain->Joseph.

Also, there are charts displaying the 'right' reading order for certain authors, like Hemingway or Mishima. I think if anyone of you, who knows Mann well would make a chart like those, that would be good guidance for others, who are just getting into Mann.

>> No.7825038

How much/what Schopenhauer?

>> No.7825058

>>7824794
Long dialogues on intellectual subjects, no real plot to speak of. It's easy to read compared to the other modernists but it's can be a long and boring read for some.

>> No.7825460

>>7824828
Double pattied with four pieces of bacon under the top bun and four pieces on top the bottom bun. It was a little too salty, so I'd give it a 7/10.

>> No.7825772

>>7825460
I...didn't know such things existed upon this Earth. Life hard in slavistan, comrade.

>> No.7825785

>>7825008
death in venice -> (optional) tonio kroger -> buddenbrooks -> magic mountain -> mario and the magician -> doctor faustus -> joseph -> (optional) felix krull (either confessions or the original unfinished short story) -> (optional) holy sinner

slot in his other short stories as needed.

>> No.7825837

>>7825772
Why live in such a place, anon?

>> No.7827422

What a fucking hideous circlejerk this thread is. Sadly, this book is nothing special

>> No.7827438

>>7827422
t. a pleb

go back to wanking it over infinite jest

>> No.7827446

>>7824185
you'll never just dick around for years in a comfy sanatorium with a microcosm of the world around you