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Books About Fascism Anonymous Wed Mar 16 22:51:13 2016 No.7820508 [Reply] [Original]

Can anyone recommend some books about the history of fascism?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 22:51:59 2016 No.7820511 1984

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 22:53:21 2016 No.7820520 soumission

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 22:53:58 2016 No.7820522 Crippled America.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 22:59:15 2016 No.7820536 >>7820508 I always think that building looks like the storefront of a shitty fashion label

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:00:04 2016 No.7820538 >>7820511 I have read 1984, very good book >>7820520 Do you mean Submission by Michel Houellebecq? Sounds interesting >>7820522 I'll look into it, thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:01:10 2016 No.7820543 >>7820511 1984 is about Communism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:01:27 2016 No.7820545 Haven't read it but there's an A Very Short Introduction book on fascism if you weren't already aware.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:03:21 2016 No.7820550 File: 1.12 MB, 1280x1280, 1456962612435.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] a e s t h e t i c s

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:07:29 2016 No.7820568 Has anyone read A History of Fascism, 1914-1945 by Stanley G. Payne? Just found it after googling around. >>7820545 Nice, I'll check that out too >>7820550 Right? Fascists are so stylish

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:10:13 2016 No.7820574 File: 54 KB, 736x1250, 1449278131660.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7820568 http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm You should read this before anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:19:42 2016 No.7820612 >>7820543 Orwell was a socialist who hated authoritarian regimes. Retarded Americlap "libertarians" have completely perveted the meaning of 1984.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:26:24 2016 No.7820640 >>7820574 Will do, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:30:35 2016 No.7820654 The Plague - Albert Camus

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:38:51 2016 No.7820682 >>7820654 are you being clever?

>>	PPPPPPPLLLOJJU Thu Mar 17 12:12:13 2016 No.7822113 read Giovanni gentile

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 12:15:05 2016 No.7822129 >>7820612 Libertarian in quotes, why? How have they perverted the meaning of 1984?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 13:03:48 2016 No.7822253 >>7820612 Orwell himself said the book was about communism gone wrong. It was a critique to his own chosen ideology.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 13:08:15 2016 No.7822263 A Road to Serfdom by Friedrich A. Hayek is the best one I've read so far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 17:26:32 2016 No.7823124 bump.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 19:03:30 2016 No.7823413 >>7820508 This building is ripe for parody.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 19:09:14 2016 No.7823427 >>7820543 What's the difference?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 08:44:04 2016 No.7825051 thanks for the suggestions /lit/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 09:05:05 2016 No.7825072 >>7820612 The type of socialism that Orwell was afraid of was very popular with the left in his time. It's only delusional BernieBros and CorbynCucks who think that mainstream leftism has always been as soft and liberal as it is now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 10:05:53 2016 No.7825165 "Fascism is meaningless... it is impossible to define Fascism satisfactorily" -George Orwell, 1944 http://orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc >what did he mean by this? >what did he really mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 11:33:16 2016 No.7825387 >>7820508 Il fascismo in tre capitoli, Gentile Anything by Renzo De Felice

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 14:33:05 2016 No.7825909 Any fiction books with fascism?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 14:44:26 2016 No.7825934 >>7820568 Yeah it's pretty good and gives a nice historical analysis of all the major Fascist movements in Europe. Payne can get too bogged down in details sometimes and bombard you with inconsequential facts but still worth the read imo.

Anonymous Fri Mar 18 14:55:25 2016 No.7825952

>>7820520
This has nothing to do with the history of fascism, if you are referring to Houellebec...

>>7820508
A really easy read is Stephen Hicks' "Nietzsche and the Nazis" which outlines how Nietzsche's ideas may or may not have influenced the Nazi movement.

It's concise, and the full pdf is online.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 14:59:47 2016 No.7825966 >>7825165 >what did he mean by this? It is over used and over simplified in order to label more things as it. >what did he really mean by this? All of the above plus "I don't get it".

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>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 15:24:55 2016 No.7826035 >>7822129 They misinterpreted the meaning from "authoritarian states are bad" into "leftism always leads into authoritarianism"

Anonymous Fri Mar 18 15:30:05 2016 No.7826050

>>7820508
Just look up a uni course reading list. When it comes to histories of a subject /lit/ always seems to recommend tangenitally related books plus stuff that's actually part of the subject.

IIRC Roger Griffiths is a major current historian of fascism, though there are obviously hundreds of others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 15:31:16 2016 No.7826054 Varieties of fascism - weber

Anonymous Fri Mar 18 15:32:02 2016 No.7826057

>>7825165
authoritarian regimes with reactionary roots are inherently based on fear rooted in contemporary boogeymen and thus, a fascist regime in one place could justify their authority in their fear of one boogeyman (for example, commies) while one other fascist regime would base theirs on fear of say, an aggressive neighboring country.

fascism is and has always been about fear, which varies from culture to culture and is thus impossible to universally define.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 15:34:44 2016 No.7826064 >sit down to email myself a note about reading Gregor's book on gentile, "Giovanni Gentile: Philosopher of Fascism" >check /lit/ because i have brain damage >see this thread Gregor looks neat

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 19:18:41 2016 No.7826666 >>7826035 Well it does.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 19:25:50 2016 No.7826691 >>7820508 Not sure if it's what you're looking for but Homage to Catalonia

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 19:41:55 2016 No.7826748 >>7826057 That can be said about any ideology when you're looking in from the outside. A stupid and worthless comment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 19:46:22 2016 No.7826763 >>7820612 how can socialism be non-authoritarian, if it involves the theft and redistribution of wealth?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 19:47:31 2016 No.7826766 >>7820574 i wanna fuck that statue

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 19:50:21 2016 No.7826772 >>7825072 nobody is more of a cuckold than the prole who lets the bourgeosie exploit him and take his wealth If Trump instituted prima noctae, his supporters would be lining up to let him fuck their wives

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 20:03:04 2016 No.7826809 >>7826763 >theft and redistribution of wealth The masses seize control of the means of production, you mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 20:05:09 2016 No.7826817 >>7826772 B-B-But, he kicked those stupid brown people out of our country. I have no issue with my pure wife being taken by a pure, aryan beast like Trump!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 20:07:43 2016 No.7826822 >>7826809 "the masses" being the cadre and disposing of those means of production as they see fit

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 20:10:02 2016 No.7826831 >>7826822 No, the workers would take over and give the means of production to all. >implying Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism and Maoism are actually socialism and not just social democracy with death squads

Anonymous Fri Mar 18 20:21:41 2016 No.7826854

>>7826831
>give the means of production to all.
how?
and who's "the workers"? popular insurrection or the former employees themselves? what about non-urban agrarian workers? what about subsistence farmers? shall they forcibly be incorporated into the socialist system?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 20:26:27 2016 No.7826865 Anderson's "Imagined Communities: Reflections on the Origin and Spread of Nationalism" is pretty amazing

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 11:16:40 2016 No.7828441 loving these suggestions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 15:13:20 2016 No.7829114 >>7820508 A Doctrine of Fascism - Giovanni Gentile. Literally wrote a book defining Fascism at Mussolini's request.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 15:19:04 2016 No.7829134 >>7826831 >implying social democracy has no relationship with socialism >implying socialism is even possible

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 15:35:00 2016 No.7829188 >>7826666 Did you forget anarchism or are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:15:05 2016 No.7829985 >>7829188 >or are you retarded? signs of a great discussion here.

Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:22:42 2016 No.7829996

>>7826057
Wait, fear is a natural and universal human emotion and has been a product of every state in history at some point. How would 20th century liberal captialism and communism have survived without the boogymen of each other and fascsm?

What constitutute the fear of todays liberal states? Threats to neoliberal economic prosperity

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