/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7769980]

Are there any people with expert knowledge of some intellectual subject on /lit/? Self-taught, grad students, anything?

If so, what is your area of expertise? Would you be willing to post a state-of-your-field and maybe reading recommendations?

[Anonymous No.7769983]

i specialize in shitposting

[Anonymous No.7770004]

Dude.... It's /lit/. There are no experts here in anything other than shitposting.
Are you new here?

[Anonymous No.7770025]

>>7769980
I have only the knowledge of the residue of prejudice distilled from the conditions of the Capitalist system.

Even on the subject of myself, I am no expert.

[Anonymous No.7770032]

>>7769980
I'm no expert, but i know a bit more about educational philosophy than the average bear

Play-doh, Aristotle, John Dewey, Rousseau, Locke, Jacques Maritain, Montessori, etc

[Anonymous No.7770036]

>>7769980
phd in memeology

what would you like to know?

[Anonymous No.7770043]

Is philology still an academically credited field or has it been subsumed under the broader scope of the Language projects?

[Anonymous No.7770050]

>>7770036
hello
rato

[Anonymous No.7770150]

Actually I'm going to discuss my master's thesis in American literature in a few days. However I only rarely post here because the couple of times I've tried to make serious posts I've been memed away.

[Anonymous No.7770164]

>>7770150
What's your thesis on?

[Anonymous No.7770170]

>>7770150
>american "literature"
>master's degree

W E W
E
W

lmaoing @ ur life

[Anonymous No.7770191]

>>7770164
Post-genre literature in the 21st century. Basically I've been looking at recent works of fiction that don't fit in the traditional genre/literary divide, and how they relate to some of the issues brought up in "mainstream" literary criticism.

[Anonymous No.7770257]

>>7770191
Could you list some of the works?

[Anonymous No.7770290]

>>7770257
Sure. Almost all Chabon, all Lethem, or Oscar Wao by Diaz, or even McCarthy's The Road. And that's just to stay in the last decade, and among the most visible ones. In general, think of those authors that are generally considered "mainstream" but that use elements of the fantastic in their works.
The interesting thing is that several works of this kind have gained some following in the academia but no one agrees on how to call this thing. It's all quite fuzzy, someone goes back to Borges or even Kafka, but in general there's been some movement in that area around 2005-2009.

[Anonymous No.7770306]

>>7770290
hahahaha holy shit

what kind of shit tier uni scammed you into paying a masters? your paper sounds like the most trite and vapid thing ever. this is literally a topic that has been discussed to death by mass media articles targeted for laymen, and you're trying to write a MASTERS THESIS on it?

[Anonymous No.7770317]

>>7770290
I would be very interested in reading your thesis

[Anonymous No.7770324]

>>7770306
is it literally a topic? Literally?

[Anonymous No.7770326]

>>7770290
>considered "mainsteam" but that use elements of the fantastic
Magical realism?

[Anonymous No.7770327]

>>7770032
I'm writing my bachelor thesis on this.

Could you recommend an educational theorist/ philosopher who emphasizes the importance of creating a National identity in compulsory education?

I am looking to critique this view from the standpoint of Paulo Friere and other proponents of Critical Pedagogue.

I know there is a great deal about this from early modern philosophers but I need something more contemporary and Dewey doesn't seem nationalist enough to be a real contrast to Friere.

[Anonymous No.7770330]

>>7770306
Yeah, whatever. I was asked titles, I gave titles. That is the starting point of my work, the rest was digging into different critical sources (in particular a series of essays detailing the state of american lit post-9/11) and figuring out the points of contact. It goes a little deeper than a four-line post on 4chan.
Anyway, not that it matters. I'm sure you will contribute to the brilliant future of mankind with whatever you are doing. I should probably have written the ten-thousandth paper on Moby-Dick or something instead.

[Anonymous No.7770336]

>>7770150
>master's

let me guess, it's unfunded

dumb humanities cucks are the best.

[Anonymous No.7770339]

>>7770326
Almost but not quite. There's the big issue in academia that if you bring up magical realism half of the time someone is going to say "NOT LATINO? NOT MR".
There's certainly some points of contact in any case, as I said there's a lot of overlapping definitions being thrown around.

[Anonymous No.7770341]

>>7770330
I know it's hard to talk with that kid making so much noise. Good for you.

[Anonymous No.7770342]

>>7770336
This window will close in 3...

[Anonymous No.7770361]

>>7769980
my diary desu~

[Anonymous No.7770366]

>>7770342
I know you didn't directly say it but I think you can still get deleted for that.

[Anonymous No.7770385]

I'm a grad student in Japanese lit. Masters thesis on Yumeno Kyusaku, did comps on early Japanese detective fiction.

I added some to the Japanese lit chart years ago, and made the random 100 Jlit book recs chart, so, I vouch for both as reading recommendations. I could try to give more specific recs if anyone wants any, but I don't do much with post-war.

[Anonymous No.7770868]

>>7770327
Not him but Robert Maynard Hutchins and Mortimer Adler composed the Great Books of the Western World and advocated a liberal arts curriculum for everyone. Hutchins wrote a few essay but basically stressed the importance of at the very least having an encounter with greatness and that the great dialogue is what has founded our society and will continue to improve it, only its fallen out of flavour. This is a national identity in the sense that it represents all of western civilization but it might not be what you need. Nonetheless, I think his works are a great read and he made me feel good about reading.

[Anonymous No.7771039]

>>7769980

[Anonymous No.7771058]

>>7770385
How/why did the Japanese adopt traditional Western genres like detective fiction? Was there a certain point at which or way in which Western "forms" just supplanted more traditional ones?

[Anonymous No.7771061]

>>7769983
same here

[Anonymous No.7771070]

>>7770385
Could you post those charts?

[Anonymous No.7771110]

>>7770330

I always hear this shit. It's always people who always take the paved road rather than the overgrown trail who say it. People who realize how mediocre they are because they realize the level of difficulty involved in blowing someone's mind with the ten thousandth thesis on Moby Dick.

[Anonymous No.7771114]

>>7771110

is beyond them. Forgot to finish my clause.

[Anonymous No.7771124]

>>7769980
Self-taught PhD in broscience and gymemology (usually written as "gymemeology" by the uninitiated).

Specializing in macros, socio-behavioral gym studies, homosexual subtext in gym culture, and "hot, spicy meems".

Recommended reading:
>Brokeback Mountain
>Help! I'm Trapped in my Gym Teacher's Body!
>Achilles and Patroclus

[Anonymous No.7771130]

If you want to learn about urban hydraulic engineering, HEC-22 is the best starting point

[Anonymous No.7771133]

>>7770043
still taught in Sorbonne fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val%C3%A8re_Novarina

[Anonymous No.7771136]

>>7771124
>Help! I'm Trapped in my Gym Teacher's Body!
>this exists
sounds like my diary 2bh. except my gym teacher wasn't hot ; ;

[Anonymous No.7771153]

>>7770170
cancer
>>7770336
cancer

"we're on /lit/ here, gtfo loser literature scholar!"

[Anonymous No.7771296]

>>7771153
He's a master student you dip. That's where all the wannabe scholars go languish before they go teach high school English when they finally realize they're talentless and just wasted 5 years of school

[Anonymous No.7771316]

I'm self taught in the history of northern Italy from the late middle ages to the 18th century. I mostly started reading about them in the beginning of high school because I was fascinated by the renaissance cities like Florence and Milan, I've read about 20 books on the subject and I'm currently in my second year of college trying to pursue a history degree. I've been to most of the historic cities in northern Italy also. Florence is my favorite, I can name every historical district, bridge, church ect. throughout the city

[Anonymous No.7771338]

>>7771316
That's pretty cool. Guelph or Ghibeline, anon?

[Anonymous No.7771341]

I'm a master's student at one of the top terminal MA programs for philosophy in the US. Got accepted into Harvard's phd program for next fall.
Primary focus in metaphysics and philosophy of language, competent and interested in philosophy of science and mathematics, philosophy of mind, epistemology.

[Anonymous No.7771354]

>>7771338
Guelph for sure. Fuck those German invaders, always ruining shit

[Anonymous No.7771358]

>>7770290
Drown>Oscar Wao

agree or disagree?

[Anonymous No.7771362]

>>7771341
>Got accepted into Harvard's phd program for next fall.

That is a hell of a fucking accomplishment, anon. Give yourself a big ego boost on me.

[Anonymous No.7771378]

>>7771362
Thanks, man. I actually got accepted to NYU as well, which is the #1 philosophy grad program in the country (Harvard's #6 as of 2015), but I've been living in a large city for the past 6 years and the smaller town appeals to me much more. And Harvard's kind of always been a dream school anyway. I feel more pride and excitement than I've ever felt before

[Anonymous No.7771382]

>>7771378
Any tips for your fellow college students?

[Anonymous No.7771383]

>>7771378
Is the Harvard Lampoon still a thing?

[Anonymous No.7771395]

>>7771378
Congrats. Sounds like you had a really successful application round, which means you had a killer proposal. Must be a smart motherfucker. Feel fucking good nigga, you get to relax for the next several years on a fellowship at a top tier school. All your hard work paid off and you know you're smart - no more proving yourself, you know you're literally top-of-the-world tier, time to just get started on your life's work now.

Enjoy that fellowship, you cunt!

[Anonymous No.7771401]

>>7771382
I went to a mid-tier undergrad institution, so keep in mind that anything's possible. Probably the most important thing is to participate in class and make friends with your professors. Don't be the obnoxious kid trying to dominate every discussion, but don't remain silent so that your professors won't even remember your name 2 semesters down the road. Letters of rec from distinguished professors are important.
Have some personality in class, don't be an autistic robot parroting what you've read.
I'd say the next biggest thing you can do is to try and present a paper at a well-respected conference while an undergrad. If it's good, faculty at better universities than your own will notice and you may even get published, which helps tremendously when applying to grad schools.
And, of course, study hard and write good papers to maintain as close to a 4.0 as possible.

[Anonymous No.7771472]

>>7771401
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.7771477]

>>7769980
Mathematics. 5 year degree but worked on PhD level papers during my last year.


Area of expertise: Used to be theoretical physics (geometrical quantization), but now I mostly work on probability, statistics, and simulation.

State of my field: Ummm, not sure what this means...

Reading recommendations:

Entry Level:
- The Road to Reality; Roger Penrose
- Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid; Hofstadter
- The Black Swan; Nassim Taleb
- Classical Mechanics: The Theoretical Minimum; Susskind
- Quantum Mechanics: The Theoretical Minimum; Susskind

Favorite Textbooks:
- Introductory Real Analysis; Kolmogorov, Fomin
- Probability Theory: The Logic of Science; Jaynes
- Gauge Fields, Knots, and Gravity; Baez, Muniain
- Modern Quantum Mechanics; Sakurai
- Constrained Dynamics; Sundermeyer

[Anonymous No.7771490]

>>7771341
>mfw I got accepted into one of the top terminal MA programs in philosophy
>mfw I plan on focussing on phil. of language as well with an interest in phil of mind
Are you me in the future?

How do you like the program? If you don't mind, can you state which one it is? Is there much freedom in it? Obviously you have a bunch of coursework to do, but is there enough mucking about you can while writing a thesis (I ask because my undergrad institution was fairly linear and rigid in course requirements (hell, I took courses with only grad students as an undergrad during my time)).

Congrats on Harvard btw.

[Anonymous No.7771497]

>>7771490
Why don't you tell me which program you got accepted to and I'll tell you what I know about it, if anything?

[Anonymous No.7771503]

>>7771497
NIU. Philosophical Gourmet claims it pretty high. It's no Brandeis or Tuft's but it gets high marks.

[Anonymous No.7771533]

>>7770327
>Paulo Freire

You're a joke

[Anonymous No.7771536]

>>7771378
>you will never be this educated

[Anonymous No.7771640]

Some rocket science. I've just started my first semester in Aerospace Engineering and STEM is surprisingly fun and I won't have to teach English to high schoolers. Seems about right.

[Anonymous No.7771671]

>>7771503
Okay, so it was between NIU and UWM for me. I went with the latter due to being from WI to begin with and I already recognized and admired the work of some of the faculty Liston, Leeds . But I think that the two schools are essentially the same as far as the masters program goes, aside from the location of course. Be prepared to work hard, deal with some airhead students if you're TAing (you meet some stellar ones as well to cancel that out) but still have some free time. Which includes academic and social, which is to say that you have a lot of choice in courses outside your specialization and also time to go out to shows and whatnot. It's a lot, but not totally overwhelming.

[Anonymous No.7771697]

>>7771671
That sounds great then. I've been dying to get challenged academically and force myself to get pushed. It sounds like it'll give me enough options to play around while still giving myself the strong breadth/foundation that my undergrad may have missed.


One quick question: different schools but, how was the logic requirement? I'm a turbo autist and love formal logic so I'll try to test out of taking the course, but I want to know how difficult the requirement is. I kill it at doing proofs (propositional, predicate, and modal) but metalogic still runs me in circles sometimes.

[Anonymous No.7772038]

>>7771358
Might be. Oscar Wao was interesting to me for the use of multiple genre traditions, but it's very possible that Diaz works better on shorter forms.

>>7771110
It was a figure of speech, so no need to get offended. At least what I did was a bit of original research (as worthless as a uni thesis might be) instead of a paint-by-numbers "gimme a degree" work.

>>7771296
Some of your assumptions escape me. You probably think I'm in the US, but I'm not
>Inb4 Yuropoor
Yeah, whatever. As I said, any attempts to have a meaningful discussion are memed to death.

[Anonymous No.7772046]

>>7770385

I read someone post here once that Japanese narratives tend to revolve around stasis and action as opposed to normal Western progression; this is something that can be seen in their movies especially. What do you think about that?

[Anonymous No.7772793]

>>7771533
Why?
Because I'm writing about someone you disagree with?

This is my first forays into the field, and to be honest critical pedagogue seems to be an ideal form of education in a pluralist democracy.

[Anonymous No.7772812]

B.Sc in Cognitive Science, which is a sort of interdisciplinary field (analytical philosophy, computer science, psychology). I'm a jack of all trades since i didnt specialize, but by god did we read Meditations in every class. I've probably read like 70% of the modern work in AI theory.

Any paper by Haugeland would be a good place to start for computational AI, and from there you can see the better theories.

Pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.7772821]

>>7772812
At Edinburgh university cognitive science wss for people who weren't bright enough to do psychology

[Anonymous No.7772829]

>>7772821
I find a lot of people who don't know what they're doing major in psychology...

[Anonymous No.7772873]

>>7772812
>undergrad
>"i've probably read 70% of the modern work in AI theory"

yea ok bro lol. i also used to say i've read 70% of the western canon cause i thought high shcool readings lists were the extent of the canon :)

[Anonymous No.7772907]

I'm very knowledgeable in music/music theory. It's not very /lit/ though.

[Anonymous No.7772962]

>>7772907

Yeah but everyone who knows music theory acts like an expert before they even grow out of tonality

[Anonymous No.7772970]

>>7772962
>grow out of tonality

>IMPLYING

[Anonymous No.7772971]

>>7770150

>American literature

This is a thing now?

[Anonymous No.7772973]

>>7772970
If you don't speak twelve-tone and set theory don't talk to me

[Anonymous No.7772974]

>>7771378

>Harvard
>Yale
>Worth a shit nowadays

Enjoy your student politics.

[Anonymous No.7772977]

>>7772970

Sadly, I know anon.. should they ever..

[Anonymous No.7772983]

>>7772973

Ever coming out of the cave, anon?

[Anonymous No.7772986]

>>7772974
butthurt ivy league reject detected

[Anonymous No.7772999]

>>7772971
Have you not read Moby Dick?
Give me one reason why it doesn't count as literature.

[Anonymous No.7773010]

>Hurr lit is full of plebs
>"Actually I study X"
>lol ur a faget

/lit/ in a nutshell.

[Anonymous No.7773025]

>>7769980
Hi I'm from /s4s/ and I study memes.
Would you be so kind to explain me the science behind the "subvocalizers" meme?
Much obliged.

[Anonymous No.7773031]

>>7772973
I used to write what I called Schoenberg Surprises. Now I'm more into writing stupid simple folk songs.

[Anonymous No.7775001]

>>7772812
>I've probably read like 70% of the modern work in AI theory.
Right, and I've read 70% of philosophy. You must be such a fast reader you break the speed of sound turning pages, or you're just lying.

[Anonymous No.7775052]

>>7770036
hello,
rato

[Anonymous No.7775065]

>>7771124

I get the impression you're pretty active on twitter

[Anonymous No.7775509]

>>7770327
most educational philosophers I know of consider the idea of teaching to just cater to the state's idea of "ideal citizens" kinda dumb.

Rousseau's Emile does kind of follow somewhat of that tread and it is essential educational reading

Jacques Maritain's Education at the Crossroads follows a path more about creating self identity and one that can mesh with others (to prevent WWII-like scenarios from happening again; the book was written during early parts of 1940-41