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MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE

>> No.7759730

Hegel?

>> No.7759739

>>7759665
He has no style, he has no grace

>> No.7759742

>>7759730
Spirit

>> No.7759743

>>7759665
By Snowqueens Icedragon.

>> No.7759773

Hegel was a feminist because gender is irrelevant to spirit

>> No.7759777

>>7759665
when i understand him, he's brilliant. when i dont, it's hogwash.

its usually hogwash

>> No.7759783

>>7759665
That isn't a picture of Ciet's girlfriend.

>> No.7759786

>>7759783
Is this the start of an ebin new meme?

>> No.7759795

>>7759786
This is the start of whatever you want it to be.

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>> No.7760045

>>7759743
>>7759783
Who?

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7760049

Does anyone have the full image?

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>>7760045
>He doesn't know about tc, ciet, or oxford girl

>> No.7760270

How to into Hegel?
Into German Idealism?
Idealism in general?

>> No.7760508

>>7760270
You literally have to start with the Greeks

>> No.7760865

>>7760270
Also you want to start reading Kant.

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>>7759665

>> No.7760945

>>7760270
Do these >>7760508 >>7760865
But also read earlier modern philosophy. Especially Descartes and David Hume. The only Kant you probably need to read is the Prolegomena. Then read The Phenomenology of Spirit.
Also beware that German Idealism is not Pure Idealism. Two different animals.

>> No.7761094

>>7760945
What's the difference between idealism and German idealism?

>> No.7761121

He was a pretty good philosopher for his time, he took note of the highest developments in natural science and mathematics, analytic philosophers like to accuse him of being wrong about evolution and logic, when these developments didn't even exist in his time. Serriously underated.

>> No.7761126

>>7760922
He's not Austrian, he's Bavarian.

>> No.7761142

>>7760270
Read his History of Philosophy, not only is a great intro to his system, but it also forces you to start to with the Greeks. It's a win win.

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>>7760270
to the big boy's way:
Nietzsche (TSZ, AC etc.)
Plato
(optional) : Wittgenstein, Popper, Russell
Kierkegaard
Heidegger
Heraclitus
Derrida
Hegel (the Reason in History, then only PoS)

>> No.7761755

Hegel makes way more sense when Kierkegaard explains him and he's a better philosopher overall too.

>> No.7761787

God, I wish you guys knew about this young philosphy teacher in my country who loves Hegel and wrote about him. He's fucking mind blowing. Too bad he doesn't write in English.

>> No.7761800

>>7761327
why nietzsche

>> No.7761801

>>7761787
What country?

>> No.7761815

>>7761801
Can't tell, I'm afraid. Eastern Europe.

>> No.7761824

>>7761815
Why not

>> No.7761829

>>7761815
baltic

>> No.7761832

>>7761755
why is kierkegaard a better philosopher? (serious question)

>> No.7761882

>>7761824
I have social anxiety, I'm afraid someone might discover me. It's Romania anyway.

>> No.7761889

>>7761882
Don't be foolish, we are not /b/.

>> No.7761915

>>7761832
Hegel writes in a way that forces the reader to read fast in order to understand him but purposely makes reading fast as difficult as possible so that the only people who can understand him are people who have no business learning these things. He's evil.

>> No.7761944

Anyone know about Hegel's relation to Hermeticism?

>> No.7761959

Into Hegel reading list?

>> No.7761979

>>7761944
It's bullshit.

>> No.7762049

>>7761327
>no Kant
>no Fichte
>no Aristotle

>> No.7762323

Hur, reality is mental hur dur.
We are good experiencing and redeeming himself lol.

>> No.7762739

>>7761094
When people refer to "Idealism" there are two strands of philosophy that are in the wings here.

You have the Neo-Platonic/Aristotelian leaning Idealism exemplified in Leibniz's interpretation of Plato whereby the material reality of the world is never denied but the objective reality of "Ideas" are asserted. (German Idealism ultimately finds its roots here through the lens of Kant)

and you have the pure Idealism of someone like Berkeley who denies the existence of a material world and that nothing but mind (infinite in God and finite in man) is actually existent.

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7762827

>when you let the world spirit take the wheel

>> No.7762846

>>7762323
literally proven by quantum physics

>> No.7763140

>>7761882
>>7761815
>>7761787
E din Cluj? Că știu personal câțiva "tineri hegelieni" de pe acolo.

>> No.7763227

>>7762846
what is

>> No.7763332

>>7762846
How is the mental universe proven by quantum physics, butt munch

>> No.7763338

>>7762739
Where does Hegel and absolute idealism fit in?

>> No.7763386

>>7763332
>mental universe

Hegel is not a subjective idealist. That's ridiculous.

>> No.7763391

>>7763338
Absolute Idealism is an innately Hegelian animal and, just to confuse you more, is in no way isomorphic with Berkeley's subjective idealism or Kant's transcendental idealism.

It's mainly influenced by the works of Fichte and Schelling (though again, they have their own conception of "idealism" that's unique to their own respective systems) but is ultimately best understood through the lense of Hegel himself and not any of his contemporaries or future commentaries (Hegel is famously construed in a myriad of often conflicting ways, it's best to form your own opinion of his work)

>> No.7763412

>>7763386
Muh, we are God redeeming himself.
-Hegel

>> No.7763414

>>7763391
How would you describe him, oh idealist master?
You know so much, and I am a novice

>> No.7763427 [DELETED] 

>>7759739
He has no style
>remarkable indeed
>he has no grace
this one's on you, anon

>> No.7763429

>>7763414
I'm far from an idealist master, just taken a few relevant classes at uni, but if I had to give you a recommendation it would be read Hegel yourself.

He's definitely one of the most polarizing thinkers I've encountered and he is not someone you want to relegate to Wikipedia scholarship: push through Hegel on your own, it's difficult but it's worth it.

>> No.7763443

>>7763429
Which philosophy, idealist or not, do you subscribe to

>> No.7763468

>>7763443
I'm horrible with questions like this because I always seem to be drawn most towards what I'm currently learning and I pick and choose aspects of cohesive systems and adopt them into my life in a méli mélo of personal ideology that probably won't work for anyone but me.

That being said, I'm just a shitty Wittgenstein fanboy when it comes down to hard analytic stuff

>> No.7763473

>>7763468
>>7763443

Petty identity (MY philosophy) games and general sophism out.

>> No.7763502

>>7763468
Where should I start with Hegel?

>> No.7764223

>>7762846
THIS IS WHAT HUMANATIESFAGS ACTUALLY BELIEVE