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Daily reminder the quran says Muhammad flew a donkey named lighting to israel on a night journey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq

>Al-Burāq (Arabic: البُراق al-Burāq "lightning") is a steed in Islamic mythology, a creature from the heavens that transported the prophets. Most notably Buraq carried the Islamic prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem and back during the Isra and Mi'raj or "Night Journey",[1] as recounted both in the Al-Isra surah of the Quran and in hadith literature.

>> No.7541594

Religion for actual retards

>> No.7541605

>>7541413
Daily reminder that the bible says Jesus walked on water

>> No.7541615

>>7541413
I don't see how this any more retarded than saying God created the world in 6 days, or that depending on how you live in this life you will come back as something else in your next one.

If religions pre-occupied themselves solely with moral and metaphysical claims they could be pretty cool. Religions making serious statements about the origins of the material world is cringeworthy.

>> No.7541764

He also banged an 8 year old

>> No.7541845

>>7541413
Why not teleport? Mundane miracles.

>> No.7541853

>>7541615
People keep forgetting the historical context. Back in the days, people had questions and religion gave answers. They accepted the answers because there were no (better) alternatives.

Why do some people still prefer the old answers? Maybe because it makes them feel good, their creation has a purpose, it's not a byproduct of spontanuous physical phenomena and probabilities.

Also, the Bible (or any religious book) isn't meant to be read literally. If religious shit happens, it's not the fault of the religion, but that of people that (on purpose) misinterpret the meaning.

>> No.7541861

>>7541615
it's not about it being stupid. it's just funny. it's funny that the prophet rode a donkey named lightning.

>> No.7541870

>>7541853
>Why do some people still prefer the old answers?

Because the new answers aren't actual answers and just consensus of a bunch of old wrinkly scientists; the answers change basically daily, and the only real answer is a "well, it's a mystery, but we'll get asymptotically closer to the answer"

People want an actual answer, even if the answer is wrong, so people look towards religion. Can't blame them. More productive to mix the "wrong" of religion with the "never-quite-right" of science rather than the "well what if I don't like questions?" agnosticism.

>> No.7541880

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yXqwUxyKYw

>> No.7542019

>>7541870
There's the difference between religion and science. Science offers some physical evidence, it's predictable up to a certain degree. I can't recall a moment where a fundamental theory has been proven completely wrong, they most likely get tuned to support the new evidence. It's testable.

The same can't be said about god, or any religious theory. That's why (imo) science is closer to the truth. Ofc, there are still many questions that don't have answers and probably never will. Both science and religions will provide answers from different perspectives, and both will be equally right, but will appeal to different people.

>> No.7542076

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJ31-D_Iwk

>> No.7542087

>>7541615
>>7541605
Christianity
>And God was a miracle-worker, and to prove it he walked even on the surface of water.

Islam
>Then for no reason Muhammad rode the penguin of d00m to china XDDDDDDD

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>>7541853

>> No.7542101

>>7541764
truly a diamond among men (pbuh)

>> No.7542103

>>7541861
Absolutely. THAT'S why they have a taboo about drawing the "prophet", if someone made a fresco of that shit the whole country would bust out laughing.

>> No.7542133

traveling by donkey was a pretty common practice, you can easily the idea of riding a vehicle called lighting as a pretty evident metaphor of arriving with a storm. you guys do know that the quran is supposed to be taken as a poetic text, right? i'm sure you're not making fun of limited interpretations based on not actually knowing anything about the topic

>> No.7542185

>>7541413
my horse was named lighting

>> No.7542194

>>7542133
Yeah, and we also have to read it in classical arabic to TRULY get it, don't we you stupid dhimmi

>> No.7542245

>>7541615
>pre-occupied themselves solely with moral and metaphysical claims
>literature
>whacky my-prophet-is-better-than-yours and descriptions of heaven that would look stupid as kid's cartoons
>Islam
Explaining the origins of the world, the fate of sinners as opposed to evildoers, how God deals with his creations and what will become of the world in the future, these are all tensions relieved by mythical storytelling, binding time and people together.
Islam, particularly Sunni Islam with it's legalistic attempts to legislate for common sense, is best read as humour. Example: Some men have names derived from the name of God, if they own a shop and have their name printed on the paper bag their goods are sold in, is it permitted to throw that bag in the garbage when holy words are not to be put in a dirty place? I listened to a 40 minute sermon on the details involved with this and understood that while all religions are doomed by rational thinking's power, Islam is the most repetitive and stupid of all religions in history.

>> No.7542258

>>7542194
if you lose most of the kafka's style in translation because sentence structure is much more limited in english, or you need notes to distinguish the different words hegel makes up as he goes, then yeah, it loses some of the meaning in the translation and it's possible that you'll get needlessly confused at points where an arab reader wouldn't.

>> No.7543071

>>7542087
>Jesus performing miracles

Oh look, a sensible man is providing evidence of his divinity. Seems completely logical to me.

>Muhammad performing miracles

Wow look at this weirdo, saying he performed a miracle and this somehow helps prove his prophethood? What a joke!


>no one sees the double standard

>> No.7543094

>>7543071
>Jesus performing miracles

There's no food, but God provides

>Childfucker Muhammad performing miracles

GUYS IM GONNA MAKE SPORKS SHOOT OUT OF MY EYES WHILE RIDING A WALRUS XDDD XDDDDdd

>> No.7543127

>>7543094
>there's no food
>for a party
>after saying that feeding the hungry was a waste of time because there would always be more poor people
>there is food in the same place they had a party
>later walk on a lake in bellow 0ºC temperatures
>everyone believes

>make a metaphor of him arriving with a storm, probably his army
>it's the same as shooting sporks from the eyes!

>> No.7543306

>>7543094
Muhammad, an illiterate man, wrote a book and unified hoards of opposing tribes into 1 empire. He was humble enough to call himself a prophet and to lead a decent-sized territory. He never asked to be worshipped and put the emphasis on God.

(Christian) Jesus, a man surrounded by rabbis and always reading in temples all his life, living during a time of countless other would-be Messiahs and during tense Roman imperial oppression, somehow found it within him to tell people that he was the Son of God.

Apparently he also said that his people should LET themselves be subjugated. Wow. How revolutionary.

>> No.7543324

>>7541413
Buraq is not in the Quran, it's in the Hadith (and biographies of Mohammed).

>> No.7543452

>>7542019
Science and religion aren't incompatible.