Are women simply incapable of understanding his work, /lit/?

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Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:09:17 2016 No.7533015 [Reply] [Original]

Are women simply incapable of understanding his work, /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:14:17 2016 No.7533036 >>7533015 Want to discuss Submission? It's a fun read. If not, signal disinterest by posting a continuous flow of stale bate

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:16:00 2016 No.7533036,1 Well it's a good thing that you've found yet another thing women are incapable of accessing with their female tendril-things.

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:17:17 2016 No.7533052

>>7533036
I haven't read Submission yet, but I sure am looking forward to it. Just finished Possibility of an Island and checked out the Goodreads reviews, it seems most bad ratings are based on his (alleged) misogyny. I really enjoyed it myself, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:31:01 2016 No.7533137 Women are incapable of understanding anything XDXD (do I fit in yet?)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:35:21 2016 No.7533157 >>7533137 Why are women so terrible at handling banter? Inb4 'I'm a guy xD', you're a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:37:16 2016 No.7533173 >>7533137 Sorry if I upset you I don't necessarily believe in what I said in the OP, but I passively wanted to discuss his work and I think we can all agree that hot opinion bait generates more replies that carefully worded thought provoking arguments

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:38:50 2016 No.7533180 >>7533173 whiteknight harder she won't fuck you she is too busy riding the cock carousel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:44:03 2016 No.7533201 >>7533036 Soumission made me think less negative about Islam, to my surprise.

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:44:50 2016 No.7533205
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>>7533015
Women don't suffer enough because they live life on easy mode. Even a 1/10 woman can choose from a near limitless pool of men to love them and provide for them. They will never appreciate the loneliness and existential pain of knowing absolute failure and rejection, loss of all biological purpose, still suffering the drive, through the bitter misery of isolation. Men most repulsive can feel this for many years, or for an entire existence. The life of a woman is not even in the same category, let alone comparable in any capacity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:45:36 2016 No.7533207 >>7533180 I presumed he was a white knight himself anyway. But okay m8, you win

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:51:05 2016 No.7533223 >>7533205 well that's enough internet for today logs off

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:52:10 2016 No.7533230
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>>7533015
Women have absolutely no concept of male loneliness. They can't even experience it. The only reason a woman can be single is if she's not pretty enough for the top 10% of males (that all women want) but refuses to lower her standards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:54:01 2016 No.7533241 File: 211 KB, 504x1360, 1441722256341.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7533015 Yes. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:59:39 2016 No.7533260 >>7533230 that thing looks like a little child, obviously she'll get all the closeted pedos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:01:02 2016 No.7533265 >>7533241 she looks like she would be "down" to fuck

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:10:06 2016 No.7533308

>>7533015
He writes from the perspective of an alienated and sexually marginal men. Women literally have no way of empathizing with such people or even thinking about them, beyond passing contempt and relational aggression given upon recognition. So, yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:11:46 2016 No.7533322 i want to die i want to die i want to die i want to die i want to die

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:19:06 2016 No.7533347 >>7533260 what kinda kids you spawn senpai?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:20:43 2016 No.7533352 >>7533322 me in the shower when i suddenly remember a bad drunk in public desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:23:07 2016 No.7533361 >>7533241 Her father pays thousands of dollars to Robbie, I believe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:24:53 2016 No.7533368 >>7533241 >not fucking gengzette kahn

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:25:37 2016 No.7533373 Holy lol, normally I'm struggling to explain these home truths to lit but some posters ITT know what's what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:27:41 2016 No.7533379 >>7533241 travis got the third eye wide open

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:28:55 2016 No.7533383 File: 141 KB, 511x683, houellebecq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Michel is my role model desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:36:03 2016 No.7533411 File: 262 KB, 700x401, platform_small700.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7533015 They can't handle the sex.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:37:18 2016 No.7533417 >>7533230 >she told the Telegraph Fucking English tabloids.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:37:36 2016 No.7533420 >>7533205 >/r9k/ not even once

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:38:10 2016 No.7533423 >>7533308 Quality post >>7533322 Me too, senpai >>7533383 Same. It seems many people mistake his misantropy for more targeted hatred and get their panties in a bunch because of that

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:39:13 2016 No.7533430 >>7533411 hmmm....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:41:36 2016 No.7533439 >>7533411 It's like my actual life Except she wasn't very happy about how fast I came

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:43:42 2016 No.7533447 >>7533015 fuck you, i understand his shit >>7533308 not sure you do

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:43:59 2016 No.7533449

>>7533420
There is already some decent evidence in this thread and I have several gigs worth of stats plus various articles to make similar claims. Yes, I have no life and I'm a loser... and that's exactly the point, all you can do is try to shame me. Roasties can be repulsed but they can never feel my pain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:44:22 2016 No.7533450 File: 37 KB, 599x503, 1448750114126.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7533411 >tfw your gf's name is Valerie and you had problems with PE in the past

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:45:00 2016 No.7533456 >>7533447 You don't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:45:41 2016 No.7533460 >>7533015 go back to /r9k/ you piece of fucking garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:46:47 2016 No.7533462 >>7533447 >>7533308 (You) not sure you do do what, f𝔞m?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:47:01 2016 No.7533463 >>7533205 I could agree to some extent. I don't think all women live in easy mode, but most moderately attractive women do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:47:16 2016 No.7533465 >>7533447 There's no way you could claim to understand Houellebecq if you don't agree with >>7533308. All his writing is constructed on such themes, even his earlier poetry. You're absolutely full of shit or have no reading comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:50:27 2016 No.7533478 >>7533465 wow what a civilized post, very clearly aimed at a constructive discussion of the author, nice contribution there m8!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:52:13 2016 No.7533484 File: 1.40 MB, 1281x1113, 1449717000938-3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love how this board falls for the OP bait on a daily basis, shit's crazy man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:54:57 2016 No.7533493 >>7533484 it's a small board with high rotation, it's always new people saying the same things. you have to assume either that or everyone has problems with their short term memory and repeat themselves over and over again.

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:02:58 2016 No.7533522
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>>7533493
Women get enough victories in the real world, I'll take any excuse to shatter their allure online, even if it means demolishing the same tired arguments that I have defeated thousands of times. My energy in this pursuit is relentless because women destroyed every shred of hope I ever had, they've rejected and downtrodden me every day of my life. Keep coming whores, I'll continue to beat down your terrible rhetoric and manipulative arguments, revealing your true vile nature for all to see.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:04:40 2016 No.7533525 Are you fucking kidding, women love the hollaback. For some reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:05:31 2016 No.7533531 File: 400 KB, 3268x553, wizard revolution.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7533522 right on, brother

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:05:33 2016 No.7533532 >>7533137 Too direct in your mimicry, you effeminate being.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:06:23 2016 No.7533534 >>7533522 good job letting women control how you live

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:07:46 2016 No.7533540 >>7533465 what does that have to do with someone understanding it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:10:44 2016 No.7533546 >>7533540 Understanding the words and the plot doesn't mean you understand the character and the themes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:12:59 2016 No.7533552 >>7533230 A whole society now fulfilling their every desire as well, how can you sympathise with someone who complains of the ability to reject countless offerings of everything they've said they want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:13:22 2016 No.7533553 File: 376 KB, 469x636, 1451312128121.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7533522 ITT: Roasties getting toasted

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:16:56 2016 No.7533570 File: 91 KB, 414x550, 1451078336356.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7533553 Day of the gentleman will come soon to purify this world.

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:20:50 2016 No.7533584
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>>7533552
I wish for a better world, I really do and I wish that women were decent, reasonable human beings. Every single interaction just further proves to me that this can only be a wish because they forever act like children, in every sense of the word. Histrionic, narcissistic, entitled children that are spoiled by everyone around them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:21:15 2016 No.7533588 >let's check /lit/, I haven't been there in ages >>7533205 holy fuck, >>>/r9k/ is here

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:23:08 2016 No.7533594 The average western woman is more narcissistic than Elliot Rodger.

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:24:46 2016 No.7533601

>>7533201
Funny you mention it, Houellebecq made it clear that upon subsequent readings of Quran his views about Islam changed. But then again he points to distancing ourselves from our Christian morality as a starting point of the fall of the Western world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:25:48 2016 No.7533604 >>7533265 Underrated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:29:35 2016 No.7533620 File: 44 KB, 679x600, IMG-20151225-WA0008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7533205 >not posting the superior version

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:31:43 2016 No.7533632 >>7533588 >implying that the greatest works of literature weren't written by men who were inspired so from having their hearts torn out by soulless harpies >>>/r9k/ has always been here in spirit. Most of the /lit/core meme books echo its sentiments.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:34:13 2016 No.7533648 >>7533546 >le women are incapable of empathy back to reddit m80

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:41:19 2016 No.7533679

>>7533632
>implying that the greatest works of literature weren't written by men who were inspired so from having their hearts torn out by soulless harpies
But there's a difference between creating a masterpiece that people will continue to enjoy through the ages and shitposting on a cambodian puppets image forum about how all women are sluts and how the universe owes you respect just because you were born.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:41:27 2016 No.7533680 >>7533648 They are incapable of empathising with the psychology of male isolation, yes. The same way that men can't truly empathise with period pain and childbirth.

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:41:56 2016 No.7533683

>>7533601
Secular modernity simply can't win a spiritual battle with a medieval socioreligious order. It's too empty and shallow. Islam--and Christianity too, for that matter--are much more powerful at drawing in people and giving them reasons to live, to exist, to act.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:46:59 2016 No.7533707 In complete honesty I have met far more "patrician" women than men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:49:50 2016 No.7533723 >>7533683 Because a significant portion of the population is still brought up to believe in fairy tales. Give it a few more decades and science will replace religion as our source of spirituality.

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:53:16 2016 No.7533736

>>7533723
That's idiotic. Science can't work as spirituality, you'd lose the main value that is always doubting the results and trying to improve them. Sciences that propose absolute closed answers tend to be positivist inventions.
Did you know that positivism, in its original use, was a religion of science with religious acts based on christianity. It sucked because it didn't have the spiritual tradition of christianity nor the cold search of truth of science.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:55:41 2016 No.7533743 >>7533707 Anything "patrician" about a woman, she most likely learned from a man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 22:02:09 2016 No.7533774 >>7533723 I dread those times. I'm not fond of fundamentalists, but I'm not a fan of fascist technocrats, either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 22:14:18 2016 No.7533828 >>7533411 which work is this? he writes a good sex scene

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 22:15:59 2016 No.7533835 >>7533493 A lot of us drink.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 22:17:01 2016 No.7533841 >>7533525 it's bukowski syndrome or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 22:22:46 2016 No.7533864 >>7533828 It's in the name of the file, Platform.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 22:38:11 2016 No.7533918 >>7533864 Thanks and sorry, I'm still holiday memejuicing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:21:10 2016 No.7535188 >>7533205 I'm a shy introvert and I get approached all the time. Maybe you're just ugly and uninteresting, just saying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:23:11 2016 No.7535192 >>7533743 And everything you know you learned from your mother or most likely female teacher.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:27:51 2016 No.7535198 Houellebecq is a hack who wants to be the next Céline and ended up as little more than an equivalent of Elliot Rodger who had taken up on hookers and blow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:29:07 2016 No.7535200 >>7533015 Only women can tell you, ask your mother.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:29:38 2016 No.7535202 >>7535198 I agree, he writes the same book over and over again, and doesn't even offer any solutions to his dilemma of 'muh western decline'. overrated.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:31:34 2016 No.7535208
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French bookseller here, it's me and 9 women where I work.
Not a single one can understand why enjoy reading this ugly misogynistic islamophobic racist.

Then pic related comes and basically says islam will destroy the world and they love his book because the author is charismatic.

For women you can't have any quality or create decent art if you're ugly. It's the same in politics or music.

Also this of course>>7533308

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:36:39 2016 No.7535218

>>7535208
Mate both are pretty shit to be honest.

>For women you can't have any quality or create decent art if you're ugly. It's the same in politics or music.
That's a load of bullshit. No one cares what a writer looks like. I know a lot of women who dig people like Sartre or Foucault, and those weren't exactly sex symbols either. Maybe you just have pleb friends.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:37:17 2016 No.7535221 >>7535202 its like no one read Map and territory

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:41:11 2016 No.7535230 File: 1.62 MB, 2448x3264, File 03-01-16 12 37 13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7535208 2084 c'est un des meilleurs livres que j'ai lu l'année passée, bien meilleur que Soumission.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:41:13 2016 No.7535231 >>7535218 Sartre was extremely successful with women so that validated him and Foucault was gay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:41:47 2016 No.7535232 >>7535228 >>7535225 >>7535223 Attends ça c'est du Houellebecq? J'ai l'impression de lire du Werber.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:45:15 2016 No.7535239 >>7535232 Pages 184, 195, 196, 197 de Soumission, oui…

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:45:34 2016 No.7535240

>>7535231
Great, how about Maupassant or Baudelaire? Are you going to counter every single example of writers women I know tend to like by suggesting that somehow sleeping with every single prostitute in Paris and catching every venereal disease known to man counts as 'validation' to women?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:47:24 2016 No.7535245 >>7535239 D'accord, je comprends mieux. En fait c'est pas parce qu'il est islamophobe, sexiste et machin truc qu'on l'aime pas, c'est juste qu'il écrit de la merde. Maurras et Céline se retourneraient dans leur tombe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:49:09 2016 No.7535250 >>7535202 C'est marrant, la façon dont tu l'as décrit le fait ressembler vraiment à Werber.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 06:55:59 2016 No.7535264 Projected impotence: the thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 07:03:16 2016 No.7535289 >>7533015 I often discuss Houellebecq with one of my friend. She acknowledges that he is hugely misogynistic but she likes his writings nonetheless. Why dont you get some less pleb female friend?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 07:04:30 2016 No.7535295 >>7535289 I'm sorry friend, but your female friends are pleb. Houellebecq's writing is mediocre at best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 07:06:42 2016 No.7535300 >>7535289 he isnt misogynistic, hes just misanthropic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 07:08:40 2016 No.7535307 >>7535295 Well, that is why we are discussing him. I don't like his prose, which is not enough poetic for me, but I still like his take on literature and on it's place in the capitalistic production' system.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 07:29:42 2016 No.7535342
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>>7533463
>I don't think all women live in easy mode, but most moderately attractive women do.
they all do, at least in their teens. many women try to always get better, and some do not know when to settle for good in time, before less men pay attention to them; which means less regular histrionism and just having the cake without eating it.

the best part is that they are aware of their future depreciation, but they choose to fight it until their late 50s in longing for the golden times.

once post-menopausal, the woman becomes more docile and discover a mild epicurism, depending on her neurosis for her previous hedonism.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 07:42:47 2016 No.7535372
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>>7535342
What a nice, unbiased and fully unsalty insight into the social dynamics of men and women. Have you ever been acquainted with one of the master thinkers of the subject? Here's an excerpt from his magnum opus, My Twisted World.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:12:09 2016 No.7535448 My ex had read more Houellebecq books than I have. I wonder what she got out of it because she's a total leftist slut.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:22:01 2016 No.7535489 >>7535448 You don't make a point of reading your enemy? I'm a leftist as well and about 90% of my reading is reactionaries. It's challenging; it helps you grow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:23:07 2016 No.7535492 >>7535208 >they love his book because the author is charismatic. I do not see the charisma. explain more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:24:54 2016 No.7535495 >>7535448 Typical right-winger, getting cucked by evil leftist women.

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Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:28:00 2016 No.7535510

>>7535500
To be honest all the women who ever tried to read 50 Shades of Grey put it down in disgust after 5 pages in because it was too badly written. There's nothing wrong with enjoying good smut though, try Les Onze Mille Verges or Juliette (yeah the French are the best at it).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:30:05 2016 No.7535515 >>7535510 >To be honest all the women who ever tried to read 50 Shades of Grey put it down in disgust after 5 pages this did not happen

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:30:38 2016 No.7535519 >>7535515 all the women I know*

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:31:46 2016 No.7535523 >>7535519 yeah and all the women I know are >140IQ nobel prize winning feminists who are also immortal see how this works?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:33:27 2016 No.7535528 >>7535523 Well I'm sorry I have non-pleb friends, what can I say. For the record my girlfriend does have a 145+ IQ but I don't think it means much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:33:43 2016 No.7535530 >>7535489 every leftist I know (aka every person I know that isn't me) completely insulates themselves from right wing thought they have no idea what's going on anymore and it's very funny

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:34:47 2016 No.7535533 >>7535530 Except for your ex? I'm seeing a discrepancy here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:35:54 2016 No.7535537 >>7535533 I am not who you're replying to that being said Houllebecq is hardly a full representation of the new right

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:36:03 2016 No.7535538
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>>7533683
>Christianity
only at the end of the life.
people will never reject hedonism beforehand. it is impossible for women, and hardly done for men, since they remain betas for quite a long time, whereas men suffer far more.
this human nature is galvanized with the faith of the liberals and libertarians, as a social tool to make people adhere to their doctrine, in technology to improve our pleasures and decrease our pains.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:37:22 2016 No.7535540 >>7535530 To be fair right-wing thought is hard to find except forums where people call you nigger faggot on the internet, seduction sites and fringe places where people fetishize Evola and Spengler.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:38:40 2016 No.7535546 >>7535540 come on lad we're not on the comment section of BuzzFeed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:39:01 2016 No.7535547 >>7535539 >unironically posting redpillcomics That's a whole new level of cuck you've reached here. Are you Asian by any chance?

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:43:44 2016 No.7535561 >>7535539 >Woah, fuck!! fuck itz 1:00 I don't care whether you agree with it or not, these comics are fucking funny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:47:49 2016 No.7535569 >>7535300 this familia

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 08:57:02 2016 No.7535588 File: 71 KB, 396x385, 1437660689371.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7535372 >not linking true master thinker of the subject >pic related stay clueless brother

>>	Constantine !!m+/90K/qoQS Sun Jan 3 08:59:31 2016 No.7535596 I think he's incapable of understanding his work, to be honest. He sees the problems of the empty sexual hedonism the West has been pursuing, but he also sees sexual hedonism as vital to distinguishing Western culture from Islam.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 09:02:58 2016 No.7535604 >>7533015 Who's the guy? I'm backwards. I wish to sympathize so hard with him my mind shall explode and my panties won't be better than anyone else.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 09:03:44 2016 No.7535606

>>7535540
>right-wing thought is hard to find
>except forums where people call you nigger faggot on the internet
But such forums aren't hard to find at all. And Spengler and Heidegger and Harold Bloom (whose spite for Harry Potter etc. has been quite exceptional from Obama-era liberalism) are still taught in university, while Houellebecq's getting the front page of editorials everywhere. One can just google rightwing literature or use some 'books like this' engine or ask a professor and they'll get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 09:06:07 2016 No.7535614 >>7533620 Rei is worst girl though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 09:28:49 2016 No.7535668 >>7535604 >why is the most relevant author of the 21st century i mean come one!

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 09:30:51 2016 No.7535675

>>7535668
>most relevant author

Just because you know of him doesn't mean he's in any way relevant.

Most of his books were quickly forgotten, they all repeat each other anyway since Elementary Particles. Submission had the "luck" of being published close to Islamist terror attacks, so it was severely overhyped.

He's dreck

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 09:32:00 2016 No.7535680

>>7535606
>Spengler and Heidegger and Harold Bloom are still taught in university
Not everyone attends the appropriate courses. Ironically most of the right wing tards on these forums where people call you nigger on the internet are actually STEMlords with little to no background.
>Houellebecq's getting the front page of editorials everywhere.
He's a writer, not a thinker. And a bad one at that. Céline is a better writer, and Zemmour a better troll (even though he's not a thinker either).
>One can just google rightwing literature or use some 'books like this' engine or ask a professor and they'll get it.
Yeah do you go to 8gag's /leftypol/, reddit's /r/socialism, /r/communism or RevLeft on your own?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 09:32:18 2016 No.7535681 File: 54 KB, 210x180, pleb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7535668 >the most relevant author of the 21st century wow

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 09:47:09 2016 No.7535723 >>7535675 Every author has someone saying this about them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 10:44:30 2016 No.7535858 >>7533449 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0oxDpJr8po

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 10:50:12 2016 No.7535876 >>7535675 >>7535681 the ideological bankruptcy of liberal secular society, the anomie of the people living in its ruins, foreign ideology gathering strength to take over the disillusioned west, it's all there mates relevant as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 10:51:11 2016 No.7535880 >>7535876 zzz

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 10:52:28 2016 No.7535884 >>7535880 like him or not, he is relevant. who would you consider a more relevant author today?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 10:59:14 2016 No.7535896 >>7535876 >muh degeneracy >muh decline of the west >fun is evil and should be banned >people should have actual values (and I mean my values) >the west will crumble soon How long have been people saying that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:00:42 2016 No.7535900 File: 16 KB, 233x280, b60.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7535896 >implying fun shouldn't be banned

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:02:07 2016 No.7535904 >>7535896 2400~ years at least

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:04:40 2016 No.7535916

>>7535876
Far better books on the traditionalism meme have been written. Zemmour's The French Suicide is better at driving its point home, for instance (though he still writes like ass and copied 90% of his half-assed arguments from Soral, minus the antisemitic part since he's Jewish himself).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:08:19 2016 No.7535927 File: 1.26 MB, 720x404, america needs to be destroyed asap.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7535896 you're right dude everything's fine haha! just do a little dance and tell yourself it's all going to work out!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:11:41 2016 No.7535941 >>7535927 Because saying the West will not crumble totally equals "everything's fine". And learn punctuation along with logic, retard. This is not /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:12:47 2016 No.7535947 >>7535927 you're so insecure it literally made me wince

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:14:42 2016 No.7535949 >>7535941 >>7535947 keep dancing friends

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:30:31 2016 No.7535995

>>7535927
I had a dream where I was back in school and Bernie Sanders was my English teacher. The entire lesson consisted of him showing the class slideshows of attractive women wearing hijabs. When I complained that this didn't have anything to do with the class he handed me a halal-vegetarian cookbook and told me to "find myself".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 11:58:42 2016 No.7536084 Every time I try to read Submission I just think to myself "why not just read Bukowski instead of robotmilleneuf and actually enjoy myself"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 12:02:05 2016 No.7536091 >>7536084 >reading for enjoyment

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 12:07:36 2016 No.7536117 >>7536091 That's a bad thing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 13:08:54 2016 No.7536322 File: 18 KB, 320x320, 1447301211541.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7536084 le enjoy reading meme

ON WOMEN 1/9 Sun Jan 3 14:10:22 2016 No.7536519
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SCHILLER'S whole comprehensive poem Würde der Frauen, with its effects of antithesis and contrast, fails, in my opinion, to express what is truly to be praised in women as well as do these few words of Jouy: Sans les femmes, le commencement de notre vie serait privé de secours, le milieu de plaisirs, et la fin de consolation. Byron says the same thing with more pathos in Sardanapolis.

>The very first
>Of human life must spring from woman's breast,
>Your first small words are taught you from her lips,
>Your first tears quench'd by her, and your last sighs
>Too often breathed out in a woman's hearing,
When men have shrunk from the ignoble care
Of watching the last hour of him who led them.
>Both indicate the correct viewpoint for estimating the value of women.

ON WOMEN 2/9 Sun Jan 3 14:11:49 2016 No.7536525
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>>7536519
One needs only to see the way she is built to realize that woman is not intended for great mental or for great physical labour. She expiates the guilt of life not through activity but through suffering, through the pains of childbirth, caring for the child and subjection to the man, to whom she should be a patient and cheering companion. Great suffering, joy, exertion, is not for her: her life should flow by more quietly, trivially, gently than the man's without being essentially happier or unhappier.

ON WOMEN 3/9 Sun Jan 3 14:13:37 2016 No.7536531
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>>7536525
Women are suited to being the nurses and teachers of our earliest childhood precisely because they themselves are childish, silly and short-sighted, in a word big children, their whole lives long: a kind of intermediate stage between the child and the man, who is the actual human being, ‘man’. One has only to watch a girl playing with a child, dancing and singing with it the whole day, and then ask oneself what, with the best will in the world, a man could do in her place.

ON WOMEN 4/9 Sun Jan 3 14:16:02 2016 No.7536536
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>>7536531
n the girl nature has had in view what could in theatrical terms be called a stage-effect: it has provided her with super-abundant beauty and charm for a few years at the expense of the whole remainder of her life, so that during these years she may so capture the imagination of a man that he is carried away into undertaking to support her honourably in some form or another for the rest of her life, a step he would seem hardly likely to take for purely rational considerations. Thus nature has equipped women, as it has all its creatures, with the tools and weapons she needs for securing her existence, and at just the time she needs them; in doing which nature has acted with its usual economy. For just as the female ant loses its wings after mating, since they are then superfluous, indeed harmful to the business of raising the family, so the woman usually loses her beauty after one or two childbeds, and probably for the same reason.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:19:26 2016 No.7536545 [DELETED]

>>7535884
Relevant to what? Current events? "the world we live in"?

You can experience "current events" live through newsfeeds and comment sections, blogs and imageboards. How many people in this thread are literally exclaiming how much "houlle-e-beck-q totally understands me and knows whats up!" -- a sentiment that betrays the fact that you're being fellated and not challenged to look at yourself and your world.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:21:06 2016 No.7536552 i don't get who's actually arguing with the womenhating robots in this thread, it doesn't seem like something women would bother to do

ON WOMEN 5.0/9 Sun Jan 3 14:21:40 2016 No.7536555
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>>7536536
The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and more slowly does it mature. The man attains the maturity of his reasoning powers and spiritual faculties hardly before his twenty-eighth year; the woman with her eighteenth. And even then it is only reasoning power of a sort: a very limited sort. Thus women remain children all their lives, never see anything but what is closest to them, cleave to the present moment, take appearance for reality and prefer trifles to the most important affairs. For reason is the faculty by virtue of which man lives not merely in the present, as the animal does, but surveys and ponders past and future, from which arises his capacity for foresight, his care and trouble, and the anxiety he so frequently feels. As a consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, woman has a smaller share of the advantages and disadvantages these bring with them: she is, rather, a mental myopic, in that her intuitive understanding sees very clearly what is close to her but has a very narrow field of vision from which what is distant is excluded; so that what is absent, past or to come makes a very much weaker impression on women than it does on us, which is the origin of their much greater tendency to squandering, a tendency which sometimes verges on madness. Women think in their hearts that the man's business is to make money and theirs is to spend it: where possible during the man's lifetime, but in any case after his death. That the man hands over to them for housekeeping the money he has earned strengthens them in this belief. – Whatever disadvantages all this may bring with it, it has this good effect, that woman is more absorbed in the present than we are, so that, if the present is endurable at all, she enjoys it more, and this produces that cheerfulness characteristic of her through which she is so suited to entertain and, if need be, console the care-laden man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:24:14 2016 No.7536559 >>7535896 They have been saying that a lot. They have also been right a lot.

ON WOMEN 5.5/9 Sun Jan 3 14:24:19 2016 No.7536561

>>7536555
To consult women when you are in difficulties, as the ancient Teutons did, is by no means a bad idea: for their way of looking at things is quite different from ours, especially in their propensity for keeping in view the shortest road to a desired goal and in general what lies closest to hand, which we usually overlook precisely because it is right in front of our noses. In addition, women are decidedly more prosaic than we are and see no more in things than is really there, while we, if our passions are aroused, will easily exaggerate and indulge in imaginings.
It is for this reason too that women display more pity, and consequently more philanthropy and sympathy with the unfortunate, than men do; on the other hand, they are inferior to men in respect of justice, honesty and conscientiousness: for as a result of their weaker reasoning power women are as a rule far more affected by what is present, visible and immediately real than they are by abstract ideas, standing maxims, previous decisions or in general by regard for what is far off, in the past or still to come. Thus, while they possess the first and chief virtue, they are deficient in the secondary one which is often necessary for achieving the first. – One must accordingly say that the fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for, as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning. Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one. To make use of it at every opportunity is as natural to her as it is for an animal to employ its means of defence whenever it is attacked, and when she does so she feels that to some extent she is only exercising her rights. A completely truthful woman who does not practise dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them. – But this fundamental defect which I have said they possess, together with all that is associated with it, gives rise to falsity, unfaithfulness, treachery, ingratitude, etc. Women are guilty of perjury far more often than men. It is questionable whether they ought to be allowed to take an oath at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:25:19 2016 No.7536563 >>7535896 good books about this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:26:00 2016 No.7536564 >>7536545 You can look at pedos on the news as well, doesn't mean that Lolita is a superfluous book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:27:01 2016 No.7536567 >>7536552 white knights

ON WOMEN 6/9 Sun Jan 3 14:27:51 2016 No.7536570
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>>7536561

To take care of the propagation of the human race nature has chosen the young, strong and handsome men, so that the race shall not degenerate. This is the firm will of nature in this matter, and its expression is the passion of women. In antiquity and force this law precedes every other: so woe to him who sets his rights and interests in the path of this law: whatever he says or does they will, at the first serious encounter, be mercilessly crushed. For the secret, unspoken, indeed unconscious, but nonetheless inborn morality of women is: ‘We are justified in deceiving those who, because they provide a meagre support for us, the individual, think they have acquired a right over the species. The character and consequently the well-being of the species has, through the next generation proceeding from us, been placed in our hands and entrusted to our care: let us discharge that trust conscientiously.’ Women are, however, by no means conscious of this supreme law in abstracto, only in concreto; and they have no way of giving expression to it apart from their mode of action if the occasion presents itself; and then they are usually less troubled by their conscience than we suppose, because they are aware in the darkest recesses of their heart that in violating their duty to the individual they are all the better fulfilling their duty to the species, whose rights are incomparably greater.
Because fundamentally women exist solely for the propagation of the race and find in this their entire vocation, they are altogether more involved with the species than with individuals, and in their hearts take the affairs of the species more seriously than they do those of the individual. This gives their entire nature and all their activities a certain levity and in general a direction fundamentally different from those of the man: which is why dissention between married couples is so frequent and indeed almost the normal case.

ON WOMEN 6/9 Sun Jan 3 14:30:10 2016 No.7536577 [DELETED]

>>7536570

Men are by nature merely indifferent to one another; but women are by nature enemies. The reason is no doubt that that odium figulinum which with men does not go beyond the bounds of the particular guild, with women embraces the whole sex, because they are all engaged in the same trade. Even when they simply pass in the street they look at one another like Guelphs and Ghibellines; and when two women meet for the first time there is clearly more constraint and pretence involved than in the case of two men: so that when two women exchange compliments it sounds much more ludicrous than when two men do so. Further, while a man will as a rule still preserve some degree of consideration and humanity even when addressing men very much his inferior, it is intolerable to see with what haughty disdain an aristocratic woman usually speaks to women who are beneath her (I am not referring to servants). The reason for this may be that with women all differences in rank are far more precarious than they are with us, and can be altered or abolished much more quickly, because in our case a hundred different considerations are involved, while in theirs only one is decisive, namely which man they have succeeded in attracting. Another reason may be that, because they are all in the same profession, they all stand much closer to one another than men do, and consequently strive to emphasize differences in rank.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:31:11 2016 No.7536580 >>7536563 the collapse of complex societies

ON WOMEN 7/9 Sun Jan 3 14:31:13 2016 No.7536581
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>>7536570
Men are by nature merely indifferent to one another; but women are by nature enemies. The reason is no doubt that that odium figulinum which with men does not go beyond the bounds of the particular guild, with women embraces the whole sex, because they are all engaged in the same trade. Even when they simply pass in the street they look at one another like Guelphs and Ghibellines; and when two women meet for the first time there is clearly more constraint and pretence involved than in the case of two men: so that when two women exchange compliments it sounds much more ludicrous than when two men do so. Further, while a man will as a rule still preserve some degree of consideration and humanity even when addressing men very much his inferior, it is intolerable to see with what haughty disdain an aristocratic woman usually speaks to women who are beneath her (I am not referring to servants). The reason for this may be that with women all differences in rank are far more precarious than they are with us, and can be altered or abolished much more quickly, because in our case a hundred different considerations are involved, while in theirs only one is decisive, namely which man they have succeeded in attracting. Another reason may be that, because they are all in the same profession, they all stand much closer to one another than men do, and consequently strive to emphasize differences in rank.

ON WOMEN 8.0/9 Sun Jan 3 14:33:55 2016 No.7536589
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>>7536581
Only a male intellect clouded by the sexual drive could call the stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped and short-legged sex the fair sex: for it is with this drive that all its beauty is bound up. More fittingly than the fair sex, women could be called the unaesthetic sex. Neither for music, nor poetry, nor the plastic arts do they possess any real feeling or receptivity: if they affect to do so, it is merely mimicry in service of their effort to please. This comes from the fact that they are incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything whatever, and the reason for this is, I think, as follows. Man strives in everything for a direct domination over things, either by comprehending or by subduing them. But woman is everywhere and always relegated to a merely indirect domination, which is achieved by means of man, who is consequently the only thing she has to dominate directly. Thus it lies in the nature of women to regard everything simply as a means of capturing a man, and their interest in anything else is only simulated, is no more than a detour, i.e. amounts to coquetry and mimicry. One has only to observe how they behave in the theatre or at operas and concerts, e.g. the childish unconcern with which they go on chattering away during the most beautiful parts of the greatest masterpieces. If it is true the Greeks refused to allow women into the theatre, they did the right thing: at least one would have been able to hear what was going on. – Nor can one expect anything else from women if one considers that the most eminent heads of the entire sex have proved incapable of a single truly great, genuine and original achievement in art, or indeed of creating anything at all of lasting value: this strikes one most forcibly in regard to painting, since they are just as capable of mastering its technique as we are, and indeed paint very busily, yet cannot point to a single great painting; the reason being precisely that they lack all objectivity of mind, which is what painting demands above all else. Isolated and partial exceptions do not alter the case: women, taken as a whole, are and remain thorough and incurable philistines: so that, with the extremely absurd arrangement by which they share the rank and title of their husband, they are a continual spur to his ignoble ambitions.

ON WOMEN 8.5/9 Sun Jan 3 14:35:00 2016 No.7536590
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>>7536589
They are sexus sequior, the inferior second sex in every respect: one should be indulgent towards their weaknesses, but to pay them honour is ridiculous beyond measure and demeans us even in their eyes. – This is how the peoples of antiquity and of the Orient have regarded women; they have recognized what is the proper position for women far better than we have, we with our Old French gallantry and insipid women-veneration, that highest flower of Christian-Germanic stupidity which has served only to make women so rude and arrogant that one is sometimes reminded of the sacred apes of Benares which, conscious of their own sanctity and inviolability, thought themselves at liberty to do whatever they pleased.
Woman in the Occident, that is to say the ‘lady’, finds herself in a false position: for woman is by no means fitted to be the object of our veneration, to hold her head higher than the man or to enjoy equal rights with him. The consequences of this false position are sufficiently obvious. It would thus be a very desirable thing if this number two of the human race were again put in her natural place in Europe too, and a limit set to the unnaturalness called a lady at which all Asia laughs and which Greece and Rome would laugh at too if they could see it: the consequences for the social, civil and political life of Europe would be incalculably beneficial. The European lady is a creature which ought not to exist at all: what there ought to be is housewives and girls who hope to become housewives and who are therefore educated, not in arrogant haughtiness, but in domesticity and submissiveness. It is precisely because there are ladies that European women of a lower status, which is to say the great majority of the sex, are much more unhappy than they are in the Orient.

ON WOMEN 8.5/9 Sun Jan 3 14:37:11 2016 No.7536596 [DELETED]

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>>7536590
In our monogamous part of the world, to marry means to halve one's rights and double one's duties. But when the law conceded women equal rights with men it should at the same time have endowed them with masculine reasoning powers. What is actually the case is that the more those rights and privileges the law accords to women exceed those which are natural to them, the more it reduces the number of women who actually participate in these benefits; and then the remainder are deprived of their natural rights by just the amount these few receive in excess of theirs: for, because of the unnaturally privileged position enjoyed by women as a consequence of monogamy and the marriage laws accompanying it, which regard women as entirely equal to men (which they are in no respect), prudent and cautious men very often hesitate before making so great a sacrifice as is involved in entering into so inequitable a contract; so that while among polygamous peoples every woman gets taken care of, among the monogamous the number of married women is limited and there remains over a quantity of unsupported women who, in the upper classes, vegetate on as useless old maids, and in the lower are obliged to undertake laborious work they are constitutionally unfitted for or become filles de joie, whose lives are as devoid of joie as they are of honour but who, given the prevailing circumstances, are necessary for the gratification of the male sex and therefore come to constitute a recognized class, with the specific task of preserving the virtue of those women more favoured by fate who have found a man to support them or may reasonably hope to find one. There are 80,000 prostitutes in London alone: and what are they if not sacrifices on the altar of monogamy? These poor women are the inevitable counterpart and natural complement to the European lady, with all her arrogance and pretension. For the female sex viewed as a whole polygamy is therefore a real benefit; on the other hand there appears no rational ground why a man whose wife suffers from a chronic illness, or has remained unfruitful, or has gradually grown too old for him, should not take a second.
There can be no argument about polygamy: it is a fact to be met with everywhere, and the only question is how to regulate it. For who is really a monogamist? We all live in polygamy, at least for a time and usually for good. Since every man needs many women, there could be nothing more just than that he should be free, indeed obliged, to support many women. This would also mean the restoration of woman to her rightful and natural position, the subordinate one, and the abolition from the world of the lady, with her ridiculous claims to respect and veneration; there would then be only women, and no longer unhappy women, of which Europe is at present full.

ON WOMEN 9/9 Sun Jan 3 14:40:07 2016 No.7536601
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>>7536590

In our monogamous part of the world, to marry means to halve one's rights and double one's duties. But when the law conceded women equal rights with men it should at the same time have endowed them with masculine reasoning powers. What is actually the case is that the more those rights and privileges the law accords to women exceed those which are natural to them, the more it reduces the number of women who actually participate in these benefits; and then the remainder are deprived of their natural rights by just the amount these few receive in excess of theirs: for, because of the unnaturally privileged position enjoyed by women as a consequence of monogamy and the marriage laws accompanying it, which regard women as entirely equal to men (which they are in no respect), prudent and cautious men very often hesitate before making so great a sacrifice as is involved in entering into so inequitable a contract; so that while among polygamous peoples every woman gets taken care of, among the monogamous the number of married women is limited and there remains over a quantity of unsupported women who, in the upper classes, vegetate on as useless old maids, and in the lower are obliged to undertake laborious work they are constitutionally unfitted for or become filles de joie, whose lives are as devoid of joie as they are of honour but who, given the prevailing circumstances, are necessary for the gratification of the male sex and therefore come to constitute a recognized class, with the specific task of preserving the virtue of those women more favoured by fate who have found a man to support them or may reasonably hope to find one. There are 80,000 prostitutes in London alone: and what are they if not sacrifices on the altar of monogamy? These poor women are the inevitable counterpart and natural complement to the European lady, with all her arrogance and pretension. For the female sex viewed as a whole polygamy is therefore a real benefit; on the other hand there appears no rational ground why a man whose wife suffers from a chronic illness, or has remained unfruitful, or has gradually grown too old for him, should not take a second.
There can be no argument about polygamy: it is a fact to be met with everywhere, and the only question is how to regulate it. For who is really a monogamist? We all live in polygamy, at least for a time and usually for good. Since every man needs many women, there could be nothing more just than that he should be free, indeed obliged, to support many women. This would also mean the restoration of woman to her rightful and natural position, the subordinate one, and the abolition from the world of the lady, with her ridiculous claims to respect and veneration; there would then be only women, and no longer unhappy women, of which Europe is at present full.

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Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:42:49 2016 No.7536610

>>7535208
What makes Houellebecq a great FRENCH writer is that he is pathetic. Let's be honest, France is not what once was. He embodies the times and he knows it.

>>7535289
This. I know a qt who likes to read Borges and Houellebecq and is specifically fascinated by Platform.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:45:37 2016 No.7536623 >>7536519 >>7536525 >>7536531 >>7536536 >>7536555 >>7536561 >>7536570 >>7536581 >>7536589 >>7536590 >>7536601 tl;dr

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:49:14 2016 No.7536639 >>7535596 He tried to convert back to Catholicism, mostly out of ironic, aesthetic reasons but couldn't. So he really has no answers and is aware of this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:50:32 2016 No.7536641 >>7535916

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:51:11 2016 No.7536642 >>7533036 It is awful. Easily his worst book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:53:23 2016 No.7536648 >>7536563 Peter Hitchens. You don't even have to have similar political leaning as the author; the simple fact he drives liberals to hysteria is hilarious.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:54:56 2016 No.7536656

>>7535927
bernie is based

that /pol/ rallied behind trump and not rand paul is a sign that they finally jumped the shark and went to shit, and that the redpill is no longer a viable "pill" or worldview

literally a bandwagon ideology of stale forced memes

/pol/ is dead

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:55:30 2016 No.7536659 >>7536580 thanks anon >>7536648 I know and somewhat like the guy, will look his works up, thanks what about some (modern conservative) fiction by the way?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:56:04 2016 No.7536665 >>7535221 That's the exception. Soumission is a real step backwards. That Huysmans vehicle is such bs and contrived

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:56:05 2016 No.7536666 >>7536656 Libertarianism is a stale forced meme.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 15:01:04 2016 No.7536689 It's like from a Houellebecq online generator. Muh dry middle aged woman etc. Embarassing tbqh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 15:01:51 2016 No.7536693 >>7536656 cuck detected

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 15:20:54 2016 No.7536769 >>7536623 It's from Schopenhauer, I only needed the word "Teutons" and "inferior" to guess that.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 15:26:10 2016 No.7536792
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I can see it everywhere, and especially the part about a mans burden of performance, and the ridiculous imbalance in dating options for plain Jane vs. that of some guy.

I find that I enjoy a lot of misogynistic texts and redpill rhetoric. Yet at the same time I have no bad feelings towards any girl or women when I interact with her. It's hard not to agree with biological reasoning and its shows why people would act selfish (cunt-ish). But this exactly sort of relieves me from hating on anyone.
I conclude that I just enjoy reading about "the others" and how life's unfair - but this all merely makes me more protective, not mean towards chicks irl.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 15:34:33 2016 No.7536828 >>7536792 Who is this semen demon desu senpai?

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 15:39:55 2016 No.7536856
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>>7536792
The big bad woman-haters Niechy and Schoppy(of which the latter makes an entrance in this thread) were at least aware that their schematizations of women come from their own vantage point in history and time, and in more narrow terms their personal issues and demons.

There are and never will be the women of men's imaginations, though going a step further there aren't any men that resemble what we imagine men to be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 15:42:45 2016 No.7536871 >>7533522 You value women far too much. By letting them have this much control over you, you're putting them on the same pedestal they experience daily in their real lives.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:10:06 2016 No.7537009 File: 75 KB, 650x390, Houellebecq-Michel.PNG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did he intentionally get ugly? Perhaps through surgery?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:13:05 2016 No.7537026 File: 31 KB, 429x410, 1423873824869.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7533241 >that smug little shit taking advantage of some downie girl

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:14:06 2016 No.7537031 >>7537009 he looks like a walking corpse now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:18:35 2016 No.7537053 >>7537009 Try having a diet of nothing but cigs, wine and tv dinners for almost a decade.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:19:08 2016 No.7537054 File: 19 KB, 480x360, mean_guys.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7536856 Do you mean the idolized driven, skilled, efficient and determined man, or the masculine leader, capable Chad? Or both?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:23:06 2016 No.7537067 >>7537053 It really only started to get noticably bad a couple of years ago. That must be when he exchanged the upper half of his teeth for a bigger nose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:23:43 2016 No.7537073 >>7533383 >>7533584 Does he blow dry his hair on hot for like 3 hours a day or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:27:04 2016 No.7537079 >>7537067 http://www.parismatch.com/Culture/Livres/Le-prix-Goncourt-2010-peut-il-echapper-a-Michel-Houellebecq-Matthias-enard-153073 That's how he looked 5 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:30:38 2016 No.7537096 >>7533015 MEAT'S BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:30:42 2016 No.7537097 >>7537079 he basically just grew his hair out and continued smoking. He could have more favourable pictures taken of him if he wanted Im sure but he probably thinks this was will get him talked about/have a more defined image

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:30:50 2016 No.7537098 File: 195 KB, 1053x765, 1449717000938-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7537054

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:33:54 2016 No.7537107

>>7537079
Looks like he was still in the intermediate stage there, just before everything really went to hell.

I find the difference in his eyes the most noticable of all. Very striking in his younger years, now they're so dulled and receded into his skull. He does look a lot more friendly these days, I think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:35:05 2016 No.7537112 File: 1.99 MB, 1372x1025, JUSTE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7537107 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:37:36 2016 No.7537118 >>7536536 Nice

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:39:56 2016 No.7537126

>>7537098
>>7536792
>>7536601
I really don't get the narrative of "guy has to pay and entertain for girl who then rewards him with sex". Is that how people usually date and get romantically involved? I just always go with the "meet up with acquaintance, get drunk, hook up" route which pretty much never fails if she's into me, and I never paid for a girl's date ever. Am I missing something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:41:02 2016 No.7537129 I honestly wish I could just go gay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:42:29 2016 No.7537135 >>7537126 I have no sexual capital, I am also literally autistic. I am disposable

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:47:10 2016 No.7537143 >>7536601 Thank you very much anon for posting this, Im saving it all. Is it from Schopenhauer? What book? What page? If you got that information

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:48:09 2016 No.7537148 >>7537126 >if she's into me Well no shit it works Now try being some high-functioning autist with shit genes and taking the same route

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:50:49 2016 No.7537154

>>7537135
Well, anon, Houellebecq's literary guru,
Louis-Ferdinand Céline, once wrote this: “If you aren't rich you should always look useful.”

That was in 1930 and still applies today. If you can make yourself look busy, occupied and competent (you needn't be), then all will be well.

I'm ugly/passable myself, it's just that I invested in nice clothes (second hand, barely worn), I get a haircut once a month and shower daily, practice rhetorics/arguments online and by myself. I started at the absolute rock bottom, given my family's history, and now I began to reach the surface.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 16:55:33 2016 No.7537168 File: 268 KB, 962x642, Schopenhauer on women.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7537143 Not that anon, but there is Schoppenhauers short essay "On Women" which might be it. The text is online of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:00:16 2016 No.7537182 >>7537168 Thank you anon!

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:06:54 2016 No.7537199

>>7537126
If you make a tinder account, you'll get a few matches a day and you'll have to start over 90% of conversation. On the other hand, any girl has an unworkable load of guys messaging her - I've fucked fat girls off tinder and when I look at their profile I see so many people writing them - if I put myself in their position I wouldn't write them all back either, simply chose the ones who are most sympathetic.
Here you have the small scale version of how the picture looks irl too - guys offer an interesting personality and looks to a girl, and she says yes or no.

It's good for you if you're chosen by girls, but the tl;dr is that all girls (even with physical disability) have some people who want to fuck them (even if she would never go with her pursuers). The Houellebecq kind of character are anons who would have to pay for sex, for no girl is (literally) opening up for them. No fertile woman can be such a creature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:13:33 2016 No.7537224 File: 46 KB, 308x482, 1451527134712.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw i'm a 27yr old virgin who is going to lose his virginity to a prostitute and then kill himself

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:18:14 2016 No.7537244

>>7537168
ABSENCE OF GENIUS
Nor can one expect anything else from women if one considers that the most eminent
heads of the entire sex have proved incapable of a single truly great, genuine and original
achievement in art, or indeed of creating anything at all of lasting value: this strikes one
most forcibly in regard to painting, since they are just as capable of mastering its
technique as we are, and indeed paint very busily, yet cannot point to a single great
painting; the reason being precisely that they lack all objectivity of mind, which is what
painting demands above all else. Isolated and partial exceptions do not alter the case:
women, taken as a whole, are and remain thorough and incurable philistines: so that, with
the extremely absurd arrangement by which they share the rank and title of their husband,
they are a continual spur to his ignoble ambitions. They are sexus sequior, the inferior
second sex in every respect: one should be indulgent toward their weaknesses, but to pay
them honour is ridiculous beyond measure and demeans us even in their eyes.
>even in their eyes
that is the best of all: the most retarded you are, the most you give women respect and treat them as equals. The most you treat them as equals, the most they disregard you. Why? Cause they are biologically prepared to be sexually attracted to a Man. Not a man, but a Man, one that is capable of treating them as what they really are. Its funny how good this works, at least for me. You got to be sure of who you are in relation with them and treat them accordingly.
Being beta means being stupid enough to be a feminist without knowing it. That's absurd! It isn't. You act like a feminist? Then you are a feminist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:21:09 2016 No.7537252 >>7537244 correction: I've used >most instead of >more >englishnotevensecondlanguage.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:27:14 2016 No.7537281 >>7537224 Don't kill yourself I'll cry

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:28:02 2016 No.7537284 >>7537224 Don't kill yourself I'll cry

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:28:36 2016 No.7537286 >>7537224 why would you attach the value of your life to a social category? do you think angels sing when the metaphysical condition of "virginity" is lifted? you are spooked my friend

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:30:58 2016 No.7537299 >>7537224 >fuck a prost >kill self why the fuck would you do it in this order? kill yourself, then fuck virgin Mery!!

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:34:25 2016 No.7537312

>>7537148
>>7537199
I'm a shy introvert, have less friends than fingers, am into weird autismal crap like Dwarf Fortress and some girls still found a way to dig me. Unless you are horrendously ugly, someone will be into you sooner or later. You have literally no excuse.

Also, Tinder is a shit example because it fundamentally twists the social dynamics of men and women by turning it into a sick market ruled by supply and demand. You say you fucked fat girls off tinder; why the hell would you do that? The reason this kind of girl can afford to carefully handpick her partners is because of all the desperate guys in heat like you ready to lower their standards for the sake of getting laid. You would do the same if you were in her place, obviously; and if the guys weren't desperate and ready to do all the work, they would put up a lot more effort toward guys. I've seen them doing it in real life (seeing as I'm literally unable to pick up a girl in any sense or form). It's not rocket science.

>The Houellebecq kind of character are anons who would have to pay for sex, for no girl is (literally) opening up for them. No fertile woman can be such a creature.
That's simply wrong. If you meet people and aren't horribly ugly (I'm talking about birth malformations or something), sooner or later someone will take an interest in you. Even the nerdiest, weirdest people I know have eventually found a girlfriend. On the other hand, I know many not-so-pretty girls who are overlooked by everyone because they happen to be shy as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:38:03 2016 No.7537332 >>7533308 this is so obviously true it's hard to believe people don't realize it

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:39:49 2016 No.7537340

>>7537312
>talking from guys perspective:
>for a girl to take interest in you

found your problem: you lack understanding.
you know yin and yang? its not you who has to attract interest. the girl has to show you that she deserves you, and you could or not kindly satisfy her by letting her suck your cock, and then MAYBE if you will you could even get yourself inside her.
your perspective is faggotic as fuck

think more, fap less.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:42:42 2016 No.7537350 >>7537286 The virginity is just one symptom of my issues, by no means the major one, I'd just like to feel the sensation of a vagina at least once, I'm a little curious after all this time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:42:51 2016 No.7537351 >>7537340 Then again with the "reward with sex" narrative. Why do you only meet girls who hate sex?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:45:03 2016 No.7537359 >>7537351 hum you read me wrong. not that im going to help you. you gotta learn by yourself how to read, son.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:46:26 2016 No.7537367 File: 793 KB, 939x859, GreatLostBearWTF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7537350 are you Spanish?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:47:43 2016 No.7537372 >>7537350 greentext your issues if you feel like it will read will judge will soften judgement for you I swear for god (lost G capital letter in Vietnam)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:48:27 2016 No.7537375 >>7537359 Write more clearly then. Opacity of meaning was never a substitute for wit or intelligence

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:50:40 2016 No.7537381

>>7537375
It always was. And I just used it. Deal with it.
You got to reread with new eyes, absent previous judgements, and find a different angle. It will be easy for someone that is criticise opacity of meaning being used as a substitute for intelligence.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:51:41 2016 No.7537388 >>7537381 >that is criticising fixed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:54:47 2016 No.7537398 >>7537367 no but im a PSYCHOPATH :^)

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:55:26 2016 No.7537400

>>7537375
they are a continual spur to his ignoble ambitions. They are sexus sequior, the inferior
second sex in every respect: one should be indulgent toward their weaknesses, but to pay
them honour is ridiculous beyond measure and demeans us even in their eyes.
>even in their eyes
that is the best of all: the most retarded you are, the most you give women respect and treat them as equals. The most you treat them as equals, the most they disregard you. Why? Cause they are biologically prepared to be sexually attracted to a Man. Not a man, but a Man, one that is capable of treating them as what they really are. Its funny how good this works, at least for me. You got to be sure of who you are in relation with them and treat them accordingly.
Being beta means being stupid enough to be a feminist without knowing it. That's absurd! It isn't. You act like a feminist? Then you are a feminist.

this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:57:25 2016 No.7537406 >>7537398 >:^) no you're probably not. I asked if you were Spanish because of the way you used "The": >The virginity is (...) >La virginidad es (...)

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:59:08 2016 No.7537415

>>7537381
Okay, I mistook you for the other guy. I guess you're giving me advice on how to attract girls? That's cool I guess, but I can get by pretty well without going through some sort of dominance roleplay bullshit.

>>7537400
Well I dunno man I'm not alpha but I still get approached. Maybe your theory is bullshit and biology doesn't work that way, just saying

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:02:04 2016 No.7537427 >>7537415 >dominance roleplay bullshit >I'm not alpha but >I get approached >your theory >biology doesn't work that way kek I'm done talking to you. for fucks sake aren't you stupid. Im out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:03:01 2016 No.7537430 >>7537367 English >>7537372 I can't, thanks anyway

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:06:52 2016 No.7537438

>>7537427
Or maybe I am interesting to some girls, who knows? I'm not saying I'm a fuck magnet or anything, simply that some girls tend to approach me at various occasions. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one to whom that happens. Why justify all this with bullcrap "biologcal" theories when a very simple explanation exists: women get horny too, and I must be not so repulsive to some of them.

>I'm out.
Yeah go back to rooshforums or heartsite or whatever shithole you belong to. Pick a biology book on your way out while you're at it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:10:17 2016 No.7537446 >>7537438 ok guys, just hope its b8

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:16:26 2016 No.7537474 >>7537438 >implying sexual attraction is not biological wew

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:20:04 2016 No.7537480 >>7537438 >being THIS retarded fuck off. /lit/ is for wise gentlemen, not for kids.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:24:46 2016 No.7537493 >>7537143 It's from the Hollingdale translation of Schopenhauer's Essays.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:27:01 2016 No.7537505 >>7537493 thx

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:30:04 2016 No.7537516

>>7537446
>>7537480
>still no argument
great

>>7537474
that's not what I said. i was referring to this line
>they are biologically prepared to be sexually attracted to a Man. Not a man, but a Man, one that is capable of treating them as what they really are

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:30:34 2016 No.7537518 [DELETED]

>>7537312
I invited the fattie on tinder for a walk because I did it anyway. I'm 29, she a 21yo fat virgin and I got with her because she made it clear she would suck my cock.

>>7537415
I'm a good looking assertive guy with a science degree and I get approached maybe one a year. Extremely tough to say no there.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:31:39 2016 No.7537523

>>7537312
I invited the fattie on tinder for a walk because I did it anyway. I'm 29, she a 21yo fat virgin and I got with her because she made it clear she would suck my cock. Extremely tough to say no there.

>>7537415
I'm a good looking assertive guy with a science degree and I get approached maybe one a year.
I've no idea where you live or how tall/special/sexy you are, but it's not normal, no.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 19:03:23 2016 No.7537677 >>7535542 LSKDjflskJdflkj;;sFjls

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 19:44:03 2016 No.7537804 >>7535539 >cawk my fucking sides

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 19:45:57 2016 No.7537810 >>7535675 Then name one that hasn't been 'forgotten' that isn't Harry Potter, a classic or some other crap. 'The Martian' will be virtually unknown in 5 years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 19:47:12 2016 No.7537814 >>7537438 you're physically attractive. thats the explanation. thats biological.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 19:48:58 2016 No.7537822 >>7535680 >Céline is a better writer I've read every single book by Houellebecq, adore his style, but I'm only halfway through 'Journey to the End of the Night' and have to agree.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 20:15:50 2016 No.7537898 >>7533015 I first read Hollenbecq on the recommendation of a German girl I knew, back in 2001.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 20:16:56 2016 No.7537902 >>7533015 What makes you think you understand it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 20:22:32 2016 No.7537917 >>7537902 >>7533447 samefag

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 20:41:29 2016 No.7537999 >>7533620 this is just reminding me of the time radical anime marxism goons who want to abolish capitalism and the state got hardcore owned by a bunch of gamers on twitter good times, good times

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 01:40:48 2016 No.7539049
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>>7537438
>>Or maybe I am interesting to some girls, who knows? I'm not saying I'm a fuck magnet or anything, simply that some girls tend to approach me at various occasions.
there are two cases, discriminated by the number of approaches:

-you are handsome and numerous girls approach you, claim to want to pay you drinks, give you what they see as little gifts or help you; the girls giggle or are shy

-you are below them on the beauty scale, or at best, at the same mark as them: in knowing that most men are spineless erotomaniacs, in hardly refusing a free shot at a girl, if they manage to stop being emotive as soon as a girl talk to them, the girls feel confident enough to approach you : you are a safe bet for her.
The talk of the girl is far straighter than for the above case.
Of course, this situation happens far less than the one above.

So ask yourself: do the girls who approach you are above you on the beauty scale ? are they girls that you would have noticed in an heart beat, if they did not come to talk to you ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 02:48:42 2016 No.7539273 >>7533707 Damn, I gotta agree with this. I have 3 female friends who read literature, compared to 0 male friends. And I have way more male than female friends.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 04:33:18 2016 No.7539505 >>7533015 Read Schopenhauers essay on women. I hate to be that guy but he's mostly right. Women are like grown children and most are incapable of logical thought. According to him, the European female ought to not exist, and I somewhat agree.

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 05:50:29 2016 No.7539629

Sons Of Anarchy. (not spoilah).
Jax and Clay.
Jax- I don't know. She's a surgeon, Clay. She's in that room saving lives every day.
Clay- And your point?
Jax- Well, that's the opposite of everything I am.
Clay- Ah, that's your guilt talking.
Jax- I don't know. Maybe.
Clay- She's a chick. Don't complicate it.
You gotta make a decision, son. She's either in or out.

Clay > Jax

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 05:51:50 2016 No.7539634 File: 86 KB, 520x500, 1451863533888.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7539049

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 06:09:04 2016 No.7539676
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>>7539273
>mfw could quite possibly have hooked up with at least two girls on new years
>mfw straight up chose not to
When you're given the chance to stay pure and unsullied without even having to make the hard choice of turning down attractive women, why do you complain?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 06:12:55 2016 No.7539682 >>7539676 >stay pure and unsullied >catholic spooks are still strong in the American's mind

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 06:14:28 2016 No.7539686 >>7539682 Not even religiously motivated, I just think sex actually has value. Why would I fuck a girl I didn't love?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 08:30:14 2016 No.7539976 >>7539686 only betas live through women

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 08:32:28 2016 No.7539981 >>7539976 How is refusing to have sex with women you don't care about living through women?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 08:33:56 2016 No.7539985 Profoundly depressed desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:16:42 2016 No.7540623 >>7539686 low test, m8?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:42:11 2016 No.7540683 >>7536828 phryne

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