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Are "gravity's rainbow" and "infinite jest" actually worth reading or are they just a board meme?

>> No.7523854

board meme, like what neutral milk hotel is to mu.

>> No.7523857

No, they're both great, worthwhile books that you should pick up as soon as possible. Not memes.

>> No.7523869

Are tgese questions worth answering or are they just a board meme?

>> No.7523944
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>> No.7523945

Infinite Jest is definitely worth reading.

>> No.7523954

Whatever the Great Sage Bloom and founder of the Western Cannon has to say concerning their literary merit.

>> No.7524089

does anybody have a chart for reading plan for Mishimia, Stefan Zweig, Dickens or DFW?

>> No.7524103

Worth the read. Most people are just memeing or trying to sound patrician or whatever, but IJ in particular is not as great as people make it out to be.

Besides, out of lit, where things actually matter they are considered great books.

Read if only so you can be properly condescending

>> No.7524941

>>7523850
>Harry Potter
>Hitchhiker's Guide
Yep, this list is a joke.

>> No.7524974

>>7523850
I personally got less out of Infinite Jest than I put in

DFW likes to draw passages out. I feel that the original meaning those passages have is weakened due to this distending

I recommend DFW's short stories more than IJ, because it seems that his rambling style works more in concentrated bursts than it does stretched out over 1,000+ pages

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>>7523850
>Harry Potter, the Hitchhiker's Guide BEFORE The Count of Monte Cristo

>> No.7525276

i haven't read infinite meme yet, but gravity's rainbow was definitely an extremely worthwhile book

>> No.7525550

>>7523850
>not a single feminist classic
>instead, fucking Harry Potter

Male supremacy is one of the overall biggest problems of humanity.

>> No.7525556

>>7525260
the count is 60% filler, it's not even a good dumas slave labor book.

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>all this hate towards The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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>> No.7525603

>>7525550
>feminist
>classic

Plath and Woolf were hacks. The list as it stands is fine.

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>>7524941
>not acknowledging the immense influence both of these series have had on modern culture

>> No.7525612

>>7525550
harry potter was written by a woman

>> No.7525616

>>7525603
1. you're wrong, probably illiterate
2. what about Alcott? Beattie? Lamott? Porter? Wollstonecraft? Hurston? Smith?

oh that's right. you're illiterate.

>> No.7525618

>>7525603
>what is Millett
>what is Dworkin
>what is Beauvoir
>what is Greer

>>7525612
Anon pls. A book written by a woman doesn't automatically become feminist.

>> No.7525626

>>7525616

>>7525603

and for chrissakes, what about Gertrude fucking Stein? this board is sickening. this isn't even a feminist thing, this is about rudimentary familiarity with american literature.

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>>7525618

>A book written by a woman doesn't automatically become feminist.

Actually, fuckface, all books written by women are technically rape.

>> No.7525632

mother fucker, what about Donna Tartt? my god

>> No.7525637

>no middlemarch

absolutely disgusting.

>> No.7525641

>>7523850
Board meme.
In actuality, they're shitty pretentious novels that hipsters suck up.

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>>7525627

Well meme'd my friend, well meme'd.

>> No.7525676

>>7525618
Why do you feel so strongly that the language board must exhort "feminist" literature if it means to be cultured? Feminism is, after all, only one political ideology among many --what sense of propriety then supports shoehorning it into a list of user's favorites? Why not champion Maoist literature, or Anarcho-capitalist literature, if you intend to cull underrepresentation? Should we make efforts to balance the list about all partisan axes?

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>>7525676

Politics dominates all spheres of life anon. And gender/sexuality politics in particular are the private made into the political. It gives you an insight that perhaps nothing else can give you, and addresses issues that are still very highly relevant in our day.

Besides Dworkin's writing is simply based. Less sure about the rest.

And of course there's a fair share of shilling into it. I have to say /lit/ continues to be one of the overall best boards without any influence by me anyway though so maybe I'm being needlessly annoying.

>> No.7525712

Gravity's Rainbow is a classic. Equal to Moby Dick, the Divine Comedy, Madame Bovary etc.

Infinite Jest is a lot of middle class moralizing.

>> No.7525715

>>7525712
pynchon is a hack that won't be remembered

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>>7525704
>I'd like to be God's editor. I have a few revisions I'd like to make.
Every time.

>> No.7525951

>>7523850
gravity's rainbow is worth reading

>> No.7525959
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>>7525951
Why tho

>> No.7526208

>>7525626
>>7525704
Cuck

>> No.7526268

>>7525607
so why isn't space odyssey there

>> No.7526348

i used to read a lot of books by women. i couldnt ever find any current world woman who was sensitive and heartfelt as i was, then i started reading rough and tumble male novels, i started getting laid.

all in all, if you want to get laid, read man books. if you want to be a throbbing whiny loser that women walk all over because you have no distinguishing masculine qualities (which they secretly get wet for), then just read the wiminz.

>> No.7526372

>>7526348
7/10 would kek again

>> No.7526692

Where can I actually get an affordable, not shit copy of Gravity's Rainbow?

>> No.7526722

>>7526692
alibris, get the penguin edition with the blueprints on the front. find the isbn on a place like amazon then just enter it into the search bar in alibris and you should be able to find one for one or two bucks + 3.99 shipping.

>> No.7526732

>>7526692
actually, i can't find the isbn on amazon so here's the one from my copy: 9780140188592 it's about 6 bucks including shipping on alibris.

>> No.7526740

>>7524089
>DFW
Oblivion -> Brief Interviews -> IJ -> Pale King
Oblivion gets you used to his prose, BI to his structural experiments. IJ is of course the meme novel. Pale King is his last book, released posthumously, and would have been better than IJ, had it been finished properly. Broom of the System can be read at any time, as it was his first book, but it's basically just a remake of Lot 49. Still good though. Essays can also be read at any time. Haven't read Curious Hair yet, so I can't comment on that one; I assume it's just juvenilia like Broom

>Mishima
Patriotism (short story) -> Confessions -> Temple -> Sea of Fertility
This is just a simple progression based on page count. Sea of Fertility is a tetralogy. Haven't read Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea, but I assume it would go alongside Temple.

>> No.7526742

>>7523854
Doesn't mean much, NMH is good damnit

>> No.7526748

>>7523850
Gravitys Rainbow is perhaps the greatest novel written by an American, other than moby dick.

>> No.7526758

>>7526732
This one?
http://www.amazon.com/Gravitys-Rainbow-Classic-20th-Century-Penguin/dp/0140188592/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451627419&sr=8-1&keywords=9780140188592

>> No.7526766

>>7526748
>>7525715

>> No.7526785

>>7526758
ayup. but use alibris.com. fairly cheap stuff. i posted the isbn up there.

>> No.7526917

>>7526785
man alibris is great
if only i didn't have to pay $20 per item to ship it to where i live

>> No.7526983

>>7523850
>Image
huh, i thought Gene Wolfe and BotNS were more of a meme than they evidently are.

>> No.7527075

>>7523850
Of course they're actually good books.

And yes, they are also meme books.

Do you even know what meme means you fucking idiot?

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>>7525712
>Gravity's Rainbow is a classic. Equal to Moby Dick

>> No.7527108

rolling