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Laurie Pennie, the famous author, is on this BBC programme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06s5h18/reggie-yates-extreme-uk-2-men-at-war

>> No.7470627
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7470627

Sounds cringeworthy.

>> No.7470629

No way I'm using a proxy to watch that shit.
Fuck off, OP.

>> No.7470635

>>7470627
Gamefreak really went to town on those Pokemon

>> No.7470642

>>7470629
Proxies don't even work. I have no idea how to watch BBC iplayer stuff. I just want to see my Question Time. :(

>> No.7470656

>>7470618
"famous author"

>> No.7470679

>>7470618
Reggie Yates is an utter legend 2bh lads

Did any of you see the extreme Russia episode? I bet he snagged plenty of siberian crumpet ahaha

>> No.7470715

Seems like it already starts with the assumption that feminism is righteous. It's probably not worth watching.

>> No.7470737

>>7470715
>take muh conspiracy theory seriously

>> No.7470744

>>7470737
What conspiracy theory am I referring to?

>> No.7470746

>>7470744
Just go back to fucking /pol/ you ass hole.

>> No.7470757

>>7470744
you think there's a balanced middle ground that the BBC should take between feminism and the mens' rights movement

A political and intellectual tradition vs. a bunch of reactionaries who spend longer watching youtube videos and don't read books

>> No.7470799

>>7470746
>ass hole.
This exact term is always the mark of an empty argument. Could please answer my question?

>>7470757
>you think there's a balanced middle ground that the BBC should take between feminism and the mens' rights movement
No I don't. I'm very much opposed to the men's rights movement. That doesn't mean I'm fond of feminism.

>A political and intellectual tradition
You're appealing to both tradition and authority. Just because it's had an effect on politics doesn't make its goals desirable, nor does its place in academic institutions make any of its intellectual theories valid. It just means its been accepted as part of the status quo.

> a bunch of reactionaries who spend longer watching youtube videos and don't read books
The term reactionary is completely meaningless as all notions of social progress are totally arbitrary (I'm sure you'll have some sort of Marxist response to this.)
I also don't know why you'd fault a "movement" formed under their circumstances for using a medium that suits them better. I don't think any books on the subject could meaningfully contribute to their discourse, so they're not exactly wrong in ignoring them.

>> No.7470800

>>7470757
Shit argumentation desu

>> No.7470808

>>7470618
literally who
>>7470635
underrated

>> No.7470811

>>7470808
>underrated
Literally every time that image is brought up someone makes a unown/pokemon joke. It's getting old.

>> No.7470821

>>7470757
>A political and intellectual tradition
In the last decade, who infamously is given quite a lot more good-will than it probably deserved.

When one of your key texts is written by a literal attempted murderer and is all about her own psychotic and delusional antipathy towards men, I'm not quite sure about how seriously I'd like to take it.
>a bunch of reactionaries who spend longer watching youtube videos and don't read books
You're reducing anyone who might have objections to "feminism" to its most base, fringe elements.

It's not like one would have ~2500 years of intellectual history to support ones stance on or anything.

>> No.7470828

>>7470821
>When one of your key texts is written by a literal attempted murderer and is all about her own psychotic and delusional antipathy towards men, I'm not quite sure about how seriously I'd like to take it.
>>>/r9k/
>>>/reddit.com/

>> No.7470831

>>7470811
Well, it's a silly image.

>> No.7470834

>>7470799
Feminism is based on respecting everyone's humanity regardless of their identity. I don't understand how any reasonable, empathetic person could hesitate to call themselves a feminist.

>> No.7470839

>>7470828
>critiquing feminism?!?!?
>fucking shitlord virgin nazi get the fuck out
>no talking about feminism unless to praise it uncritically
Please, please look in the mirror sometime, I don't think you'll like what you see.

>> No.7470847

>>7470834
Butting in, but I hesitate to call myself a feminist because it's a feminine-sounding ideology and I don't care. I carry some views which may be construed as misogynist, misandrist, and misanthropic. I don't care. It's all spooks in the end.

>> No.7470860

>>7470834
>Feminism is based on respecting everyone's humanity regardless of their identity
all my keks


#killallmen

>> No.7470861

>>7470757
A far more long-running and venerable political and intellectual tradition than feminism is the idea that women are subordinate and should be kept away from important matters.

>> No.7470863

>>7470860
Nice spooks, my property

>> No.7470874

>>7470834
That was first-wave feminism. The second-wave feminism we live in now does not accord with those same beliefs of equality.

I'm an egalitarian, not a "feminist."

>> No.7470891

>>7470874
>>7470874
We're I'm third wave now. Second was about work place equality and civil rights IIRC. Now it's using post-modern theorys to find Patriarchy in your coco pops.

>> No.7470902
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7470902

>>7470874
>I'm an egalitarian, not a "feminist."

>> No.7470907

>>7470834
>Feminism is based on respecting everyone's humanity regardless of their identity.

Feminism is a very broad and complex ideology. Anyone attempting to boil it down to a point this simple can only be doing so fro political reasons.

>> No.7470910

>>7470839
>Missing the point this hard.

>> No.7470920

>>7470618

>shows all the extremes of mental 'men's rights' fags
>shows one self-victimiser on the other side
>'lol why do they think we're biased?'

It was absolute shite.

>> No.7470922

>>7470902
Nice fedora you got there, sir.

>> No.7470923

>>7470920
How do non-Brits watch BBC iplayer vids?

>> No.7470936

>>7470923
We don't, because LOL 2bh

>> No.7470942

>>7470936
;_;

All my proxy attempts don't work.

>> No.7470951

>>7470942
You might as well just jab a toothpick down your urethra while shoving your head down a toilet, same experience.

>> No.7470956

>>7470923

Fuck knows. I have to pay a TV licence for the privilege...

>> No.7471002

>>7470891

shitpost less read more

>> No.7471016

>>7470618
>the famous author, of whom I have never heard

>> No.7471017
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7471017

>feminism failed
>two centuries of women's liberation discourse and all we have to show for it is women whining like actual literal children about people being mean to them on a virtual medium where they can't be physically harmed
>the greatest project in human history
>we could have bestowed authenticity to twice as many people as ever had it
>we could have doubled the productive capacity of the species, more if you additionally factor in how much time the productive ones (men) waste dealing with whiny childlike women, on top of the latter not being productive
>instead we get this
>men pander to it because they think it showcases that they are good boys who totally support feminism
>in their subconscious (and usually in their conscious, too) they are really thinking "lol wtf is wrong with these actual children that they are scared of words hahaha just walk away from the screen nigga"
>the mass collective psychic incredulity about women being adults/humans is growing every day
>feminism will never be resumed as a project of mankind
>future misogynist eons will look back on this time with the same level of ossified misogyny that previous eons had, but HYPERCHARGED in efficiency and believability by the knowledge that the reverse actually was tried, and the results were laughable, that they practically amounted a mass psychotic episode in europe as men pretended that women acting like bratty 7 year olds wasn't ludicrous for a few generations
>the vaginas will never truly be free
>mankind will be saddled with their dead weight for eternity
>laurie penny will never make you lick her feet

>> No.7471045

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8RxL9kuBs4

>> No.7471051

>>7470618
>anti-feminism
hehe... meme

>> No.7471097

>>7471045
>>7471045
thanks

>> No.7471267
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7471267

>>7471017
>implying womanhood is lesser than manhood
>implying productivity is the sole purpose of humanity
>implying that women being adult children isn't adorable
>implying men even want women that act like men
>implying women will ever accept or actually want to be treated like men

>> No.7471276

>>7471267
Can they at least stop pretending they want that, then?

>> No.7471285

God I fucking hate Milo with his smug voice