MEMES and ART

[Anonymous No.7414099]

When will memes be acknowledged as art by the art community?

I mean, most memes nowadays have more influence than the art community itself.

Shouldnt the art community embrace the memes for their own survival?

If you can't beat mememakers, better join them, right?

Or should it be the mememakers that should try to get into the art industry?

[Anonymous No.7414123]

>>7414099
viper yourself

[Anonymous No.7414139]

>>7414123
Oh I think I detect a meme!

You are referencing a meme in which a rapper called "viper" is seen on a picture with the text "kill yourself". Within this context you mean, OP needs to kill himself without actually saying it, but only referencing it.

Very clever, indeed you sneaky little memester.

[Anonymous No.7414146]

That kid must be homeschooled, no way he'd survive out in the real world.

[Anonymous No.7414149]

>>7414123
>>7414139
lol xD

this is why i love you /lit/ :3

[Anonymous No.7414150]

>>7414139
viper yourself 2: not enough venom 4 deez fags

[Anonymous No.7414162]

>>7414146
You don't ironically wear clothes with memes illustrated on them?

[Anonymous No.7414194]

>>7414099
>art community
Is that even really a thing anymore? I know there's art students in college. I know there's a ponzi scheme in the big galleries, but that mostly affects a tiny number of blue chip artists and a large number of hopeful does who get pumped up as a young artist and then dropped after first exposure. I know there's figure drawing classes full of wine swill in housewives all over America. But none of that sounds like a community.

[Anonymous No.7414205]

Un-ironically, this is my favorite song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4G8IlNYgws

[Anonymous No.7414226]

>>7414205
I unironically like to ironically post the word "memes" on here.

[Anonymous No.7414566]

>>7414194
>>7414194
This. There are local art scenes, usually at the city level, but not much beyond that.

[Anonymous No.7414588]

>>7414226
Who's this semen demon?

[Anonymous No.7414592]

>>7414226
...damn he really was just a big dork, wasn't he? If I didn't know who that was I would assume they played a lot of Dungeons and Dragons and attempted to learn fire dancing a few times in a futile attempt to not seem like such a sweaty clod.

[Anonymous No.7414610]

>>7414205
Why "unironically" has come to mean "ironically"?

Is it because you cannot announce irony, ever, or it ceases to be irony?

[Anonymous No.7414615]

/lit/

Mods

[Anonymous No.7414643]

What do you think the first memes to be displayed in museums will be? O RLY owl and chocolate rain are essentials, Numa Numa guy too

[Anonymous No.7414650]

>>7414643
Bane?

[Anonymous No.7414653]

>>7414643
Pepe

[Anonymous No.7414698]

>>7414643
there will be dissertations written around baneposting

and yes I believe there will be a pepe showcase, with all the variety, I believe that can be of interest to the arty normalfags

[Anonymous No.7414713]

>>7414643
Bernie Sanders

A reddit meme gone too far

[Anonymous No.7414738]

>>7414643
tfw will be there, it's a narrative method of its own which captures the whole mindset of a subculture.

Spurdo will probably get a place too, it's a very fertile meme and it has a unique form of comedy, I think; the closest thing I can think of like it is SBaHJ.

[Anonymous No.7414748]

>>7414713
First meme to become president of a superpower. Can you imagine it?

Memes will have taken their place over women in our society's hierarchy.

[Anonymous No.7414750]

Art in itself is a meme. Internet memes are isolated in themselves, but don't provide much insight on human nature. Think of internet memes as a "tweet" of the art world. Although it may seem relevant, they're too condensed and not valuable enough to actually transmit something of substance.

[Anonymous No.7414774]

>>7414748
>>7414713
Trump is also a meme and he's more likely to win. We have memes competing with other memes to take control of an imperialist, jingoist, arrogant, nuclear-powered nation.

[Anonymous No.7414781]

>>7414750
>Internet memes are isolated in themselves, but don't provide much insight on human nature

I disagree with you. I believe tfw guy and sadfrog are the primal yearnings expressed in their most naive, pure form.

[Anonymous No.7414787]

>>7414774
KOJIMAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.7414800]

>>7414750
>Think of internet memes as a "tweet" of the art world. Although it may seem relevant, they're too condensed and not valuable enough to actually transmit something of substance.
Eh, I think that overstates it. Memes (and most forms of media that are actually relevant nowadays - tweets, vines, instagram, youtube, etc) may have have been compressed into the smallest utterances that could be conceivably meaningful as a result of two centuries of capitalism and technology interacting with media, but what these atomic bits of communication lack in depth in any individual instance they make up for in being a part of a distributed, collaborative art project.

For example, the frog pictures alone have been altered so many fucking times that, taken together, they actually kinda do tell the story of what it's like to be a low, disgusting, excluded sorta person. It's just distributed story-telling (and if the stories memes tell are stupid, it's because the makers - which is everyone - are stupid.)

[Anonymous No.7414803]

>>7414099
>>art
>art
>art
>>>/his/art

3...2...1

[Anonymous No.7415438]

>>7414162
Was monkey trouble actually taken seriously as a meme by normalfags?

[Anonymous No.7415452]

>>7414774
Neither will win senpai

It's going to be Hillary

[Anonymous No.7415461]

>>7414099
>tfw atheists are just memes

[Anonymous No.7415471]

>>7414748
Women are a meme

[Anonymous No.7415476]

>>7415461
>slave morality

The worst meme of all

[Anonymous No.7415483]

>>7415438
There are no normal fags, there are only the memes and the memed

[Anonymous No.7415485]

You got it backwards

Memes aren't art

Art is actually just a meme itself. At least in the Kantian sense. He says what makes art special is that it allows a "quickening" of the mind that puts one into this dimension of mental play where one can reflect on human elements. Memes pull this off no problem although more benign or specific, they evoke an emotion or moment completely directly.

[Anonymous No.7415491]

>>7415476
>leslavemoralitymeme

[Anonymous No.7415547]

I think this has been said but "art" is already a meme. Because of this hierarchy, it doesn't work the other way around.

[Anonymous No.7415837]

Weed is a meme.
Some artists use weed to create art.
Memes are used to create art.

Dude art lmao.

[Anonymous No.7415868]

>>7414099
they already are ...

[Anonymous No.7415935]