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i.e George Orwell, Herman Melville

>> No.7412281

David Foster Wallace

>> No.7412288

I've heard this about Melville somewhere, is there any truth to it?

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Kafka as well I believe

>> No.7412296

>>7412275
Stirner

>> No.7412306

>>7412288
He died poor after Moby Dick and now that book gets its dick sucked.

>> No.7412307

>>7412288

Moby Dick wasn't widely received as a masterpiece until he was a good 30 years dead

Dante also had a delay in being recognized, though that's mostly because he finished Paradiso soon before his death and he was in exile

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>>7412306
>>7412307
didn't he write bartlebly in the depth of his disillusionment?

>> No.7412323

>>7412306
Deservedly. His short stories are also very good.

>> No.7412333

>>7412275
I think you mean e.g. not i.e. Or at least e.g. works better here

>> No.7412342

>>7412323
The prose were good; especially when they drifted into American Shakespeare-esque voice. But there was too much crap about cetology and what are the different parts of a ship.

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>> No.7412372

Auden did nothing wrong

>> No.7412389

>>7412342
>Reading Cetology
>thinking it's about whales

You need to go reread friend

>> No.7412397

>>7412389
What was it about?

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>>7412389
I was reading a novel, not a textbook in cetology 101.

>> No.7412425

>>7412397
>>7412411

The chapter is metaphorical of how librarians catologued books and subjects in the 19th century.

Interesting? Probably not.
Good prose? Sure.

>> No.7412431

>>7412425
I found it interesting because I like whales and I'm autistic, but what's the reason Melville would use that chapter as a metaphor for that?

>> No.7412434

>>7412431
Probably because he was autistic and wanted to find a way to write about cataloging without actually talking about cataloging.

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>>7412389

fuck you it was about whales

>> No.7412442

>>7412290
Some of his best stuff wasn't even published until after he died so yeah

>> No.7412457

>>7412442
Weren't those fragments and unfinished though?

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>>7412389
Merica fuck ya~!

>> No.7412489

>>7412457
But they included The Castle and The Trial

>> No.7412512

>>7412275
>>7412288
Melville's Typee was a big hit in his lifetime

>> No.7412519

Moby-Dick has an entire chapter dedicated to a single dick joke. It's a masterpiece.

>> No.7412520

>>7412457
Some, like Amerika, were certainly unfinished, but from what I remember the majority of his stuff was unpublished when he died. He supposedly didn't want any of it published and actually told his friend to burn it all when he died. I also seem to remember reading that he was still revising a lot of it when he died, but it seems unfair to say they were unfinished in the sense that they form coherent and complete stories (unlike Amerika), and seems like he was the type who would have kept revising until he died no matter how long he lived.

>> No.7412540

>>7412519
Don't forget the fart joke towards the beginning.

>For as in this world, head winds are far more prevalent than winds from astern (that is, if you never violate the Pythagorean maxim) . . .

>yfw Pythagoras came up with "beans, beans, the more ya eat, the more the more ya fart . . . "

>> No.7412584

F. Scott Fitzgerald

>> No.7412654

>>7412540
>about to start reading Moby-Dick once the semester ends
>getting hype
>read this
>hype is at maximum

oh i am ready

>> No.7412666

Sylvia Plath

Her manner of death made her famous.

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Albert Camus, he died with not many friends and opposed popular ideas. He gained popularity because he was a real nigga and resonated with future generations.