/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7400785]

ayo /lit/

is cyberpunk dead?

[Anonymous No.7400794]

Yes, and with good reason. It was a shit sub-genre.

[Anonymous No.7400799]

>>7400785
Welcome to 30 years ago.

[Anonymous No.7400805]

well, it basically happened already

[Anonymous No.7400807]

>>7400785
Cyberpunk never died. It just became real...

[Anonymous No.7400810]

>>7400807
no it did not

biopunk eventually will.

[Anonymous No.7400815]

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[Anonymous No.7400825]

Jammit, cyberpunk will never die.

>>7400794
Shock off.

[Anonymous No.7400848]

>>7400810
>no it did not
just your opinion man

[Anonymous No.7400866]

>>7400848
i assume that neural interface mask is doing wonders for your mental state.

[Anonymous No.7400873]

Name five good cyberpunk books published in this millenium. Every ofher living genre has them. Surely cyberpunk does as well?

[Anonymous No.7400879]

>>7400815
is gonna suck

[Anonymous No.7400915]

>>7400785
I'm currently writing a cyberpunkish novel set in the near future. It deals with the flaws in progressive ideologies. The world has become a 1985-like dystopia enslaved by political correctness. mass immigration. rising crime. race riots. you name it, and worst of all the cops do nothing to stop it. the rights of thugs have become more important than the rights of the people they prey on. The protag suddenly finds himself on the wrong side of things. He is branded a bigot, a radical, a terrorist.They strip him from everything he loves. He must become a fugitive. He must get revenge.

Our man joins a revolutionary cell of traditionalist hackers and disgruntled war vets. together they work out a plot to bring the system down.

[Anonymous No.7400926]

>>7400873
Genocidal organ
Dreams of Amputation
All you need is kill
The Peripheral

[Anonymous No.7400940]

>>7400785

[Anonymous No.7400958]

>>7400785
Cyberpunk is a future of the past

[Anonymous No.7400968]

>>7400926
>All you need is kill
I don't think it can be considered cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.7400972]

>>7400915
criticque?

[Anonymous No.7400994]

>>7400958
Dank Deep, Dude.

[Anonymous No.7401060]

>>7400926
>organ
obviously biopunk
>all you need is kill
not cyberpunk, action sci-fi with timetravel

[Anonymous No.7401066]

>>7400926
>Genocidal organ
>dreams of amputation

got the links for these senpai?

[Anonymous No.7401593]

>>7400785
Not only is cyberpunk dead, but 2nd wave cyberpunk is also dead.
>>7400807
>It just became real...
Worse than that. Thanks to Apple, Cyberprep became real. Be Well.

[Anonymous No.7401597]

>>7400785
Once anything appears in anime, it's dead. They feed off Western tablescraps.

[Anonymous No.7401600]

>>7401597
you mean they take inspiration from western culture and make a superior version that ends up having its own inferior western one

[Anonymous No.7401628]

>>7401600
No. They take inspiration and make it "cute" then slap a silly name on it.

[Anonymous No.7401633]

>>7400785
what are the essential old cyberpunk novels?

[Anonymous No.7401635]

>>7401628
>GiTS
>Cute
oh it you again.

[Anonymous No.7401636]

>>7401633
Early William Gibson and Bruce Sterling.

[Anonymous No.7401639]

Doesn't feel like it. Most futuristic sci-fi has cyberpunk kinda shit in it.

I just read this and even it had stuff that blends into the genre.

[Anonymous No.7401644]

>>7401635
It doesn't have the grit of western Cyberpunk, anime focuses on the gleam aspect only. Because of the Anime aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.7401672]

>>7401644
How is gits supposed to be cyberpunk?
Also, cyberpunk a shit

[Anonymous No.7401681]

Cyberpunk won't happen since society seems to be moving on a different direction.
People, countries and corporations are taking notice about how unpractical and inhuman having big clumped cities full of pollution and corruption is. 'Green' movements are gaining traction every year in every part of the world. Sure, I'd agree with the fact that countries like China reflect otherwise, but we also need to notice the fact that Hong Kong demolished Kowloon in 1993, which is a big game changer: Human rights and pollution are going to be mantained. There's also Al Gore and how he helped put the enviroment on the US sphere during the 90's also. Cyberpunk relied on certain conditions to occur, but they are not as obvious as they seemed before, centralization and extreme laissez-fair capitalism were big ones, but each day I tend to think that countries are going further from this, specially since Neoliberalism (so popular during the 80's, 90's and 2000's) has been losing ground on the Academic sector and Keynesianism is gaining some.

The reasons as to why the world is turning more green are mysterious as I see it, on one hand you can accuse corporations of making a big campaign to sell earth-friendly goods with increased price, while on the other there might be a sincere feeling of preserving Earth. We might not know, but I can take for certain that cyberpunk might not be a thing that we will see during the XXI century. Post-apocalyptic and/or more Dictatorial scenes are more plausible (and romanticized on media and forums) considering the current geopolitical situation.

I'm not trying to put Cyberpunk out of discussion, it might happen eventually, but it's quite far from these times and this results on being talked less and losing the spotlight to other more near and plausible scenarios, specially with how bio-technology and genetics are advancing.

Sorry for the long/autism post.

[Anonymous No.7401775]

>>7401681
Hey no probs man, I didn't read it anyway. You cool.

[Anonymous No.7401798]

Fancy yourself a cyberpunk?

[Anonymous No.7401811]

>>7401681
Good post, interesting thoughts.

[Anonymous No.7401814]

>>7401644
80s cyberpunk anime was pretty gritty. Bubblegum Crisis, AD Police, Genocyber, Cyber City Oedo, stuff like that.

>>7401681
On the other hand I've seen some writing about how "Africa is Cyberpunk", since you've got stuff like multinational megacorporations (China/US/Euro) hiring child soldiers to guard their strip mines/oil facilities and paying them with prepaid cellphone cards. Or pirates hijacking oil/gasoline tankers and then selling the cargo. And the Nigerian princes of course.

[Anonymous No.7401833]

>>7401814
>Bubblegum Crisis
How's that cyberpank? It doesn't even have virtual reality and the protagonists are fucking superheroes.

[Anonymous No.7401840]

>>7401798

>>7391949

...Cyberpunk's protagonists are hackers, rockers, and other cultural rebels, clinging to a cult of individualism in a culture characterized by corporate control and mass conformity...

[Anonymous No.7401845]

>>7401840

...A distinct cyberpunk fashion of its own has emerged in recent years...

[Anonymous No.7401849]

>>7401845

>>>...multifunction "tech ninja" fashion

[Anonymous No.7401852]

>>7401798

As a wider variety of writers began to work with cyberpunk concepts, new sub-genres of science fiction emerged

>>7391968

>"see" what others may be able to see

[Anonymous No.7401859]

>>7401852

>>7391968

>>/lit/thread/7387980#p7391968

[Anonymous No.7401872]

Cyberpunk's protagonists are adept at appropriating the materials of popular culture and making them speak to alternative needs and interests

[Anonymous No.7401876]

>>7401872


Recontextualisation is a process that extracts text, signs or meaning from its original context (decontextualisation) in order to introduce it into another context.

Openness has been linked to both artistic and scientific creativity

[Anonymous No.7401890]

Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the World Wide Web, too, was inspired by the free associative possibilities of the brain for his invention

[Anonymous No.7401914]

You can live cyberpunk life pretty much, that is if you really want that. It's not as "cool" as movies or books show it, but most things isn't. Apple walled garden is not the only way.

[Anonymous No.7402579]

I'm thinking of writing a ridiculous cyberpunk novel set in futuristic dystopian Israel witn a militant government, where arabs are kept in ghettos and practice meta-islam which will be some cyber-psychic-whatever higher level of Islam, that'll help them fight the establishment.

sounds pretty much the same as today though

[Anonymous No.7402754]

>>7401681
Interesting thoughts - anyone wishing for Robo-Communism?

Marx insinuates it, with the idea of captalism needing to refine machienry for a proletariat state.

[Anonymous No.7403327]

>>7402754
The problem is that with capitalist society, the workers that machines replace are simply dumped from their jobs. So theoretically to achieve total communism/socialism, there's first going to be a point where there are large numbers of unemployed people who are highly technically skilled, which provides fertile ground for cyberpunk stories.

[Anonymous No.7403355]

>>7402754
as Doug Stanhope said, the ultimate goal of a society should be to reach 100% unemployment, and have all work automated
is disagree of course

[Anonymous No.7403379]

>>7402579
already written