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What's the ideology where people want to go back to nature, or they believe that mankind has strayed from its "natural state" and must return there if it is to be happy? Is that called a thing?

>> No.7392640

>>7392634
It's called Filthy Hippieism.

>> No.7392644

>>7392634
cite sources or go to /his/

>> No.7392645

>>7392634
anarchoprimitivism

>> No.7392648

>>7392634
Anarcho-primitivism

>> No.7392649

>>7392644
let's give him a chance -- he's not being a dick, he just doesn't know anything

>> No.7392652

there were no ideologies in the "natural state"

you started it wrong

>> No.7392655

>>7392634
Taoism

>> No.7392659

>>7392649
no one knows anything

>> No.7392666

>>7392634
I think megaricism and cynism,Iam not sure however...

>> No.7392669

>>7392659
as an absolute, yes
relatively, do we know what the term other people use for an idea is, thereby making it easier for someone to research further, of course we know

>> No.7392714

>>7392634
Taoism.

>> No.7392719

>>7392634
Taoism

>> No.7392722

>>7392659
I know that no one knows everything.

>> No.7393831
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7393831

think twice before signing up

>> No.7394776

>>7392634
sounds a bit like what Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote about the "natural man"

>> No.7394794

>>7392634
A lot of philosophy can lead you to that because it's just true. We're crowded and dissociated. Living like this is new to us.

>> No.7394815

faggotry

>> No.7394817

>>7394776
this is the only right answer

op is clearly referring to rousseau's formulation of the idea and not any others, however similar they might be

for contrast, see hobbes

>> No.7394851

Romanticism

>> No.7394872

>>7392634
Rousseau and he was bat shit insane

>> No.7394882

>>7394794
>We're crowded and dissociated. Living like this is new to us.
This.
People say civilization, as we know it, has been around for 1000s of thousand of years so we should be used to it but that's nothing compared to the many 100,000 years we've spent as hunter-gatherers.

>> No.7394885

>>7394882
You never spent a day as a hunter-gatherer, you feeble-minded ingrate.

>> No.7394888

>>7394882
Are you of the opinion that hunter-gatherer societies have not developed over that period? Because they did, both sociologically and technologically (and for that matter physiologically). The hunter gatherers of Europe do not equate to the San. Existence as a human is an unnatural and painful state of being, however it is done.

>> No.7394890

if you are by any chance thinking of something like walden, thoreau was a transcendentalist

>> No.7394899

>>7394885
Maybe you should actually learn to read posts before you try to do your best impression of some 19th century nobleman, you fuckwit.

>>7394888
Do you think we've developed to handle civilization in just the past few 1000s years when hunter-gatherers had 100s of thousands of years to get used to their lifestyle?

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7394907

We long to get back to Eden, to the natural state of grace that the LORD created us in.

>> No.7394911

It's called: drastic measures taken to avoid taking responsibility for my life

>> No.7394936

>>7394911

Projection, the post.

>> No.7394967

>>7394911
>needing to take responsibility for something you didn't choose to have
honestly m8

>> No.7394973
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7394973

petty-bourgeois idealism, you doofus

>> No.7394975

>>7392648
>>7392645
These two are the correct answers.

>> No.7394980

>>7392634
In literary terms, you're probably wanting to learn about "pastoral." Read Virgil's Eclogues (and Hesoid's Theogony as background). And then for criticism, the three classics are:
- William Empson, Some Versions of Pastoral
- Raymond Williams, The Country and the City
- Annabel Patterson, Pastoral and Ideology: Virgil to Valéry

Good luck, OP. You have much reading ahead!

>> No.7394981

>>7394936
never hit: the post
>>7394967
>i le didn't choose to live MOM!

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7394984

>>7394980

>> No.7394990

>>7394981
>i le didn't choose to live MOM!
So you don't really have a retort besides flaccid meming?

consider me btfo, can't argue with that 2bh

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7394994

>>7394984

>> No.7395014

(anarcho)primitivism

basically a return to band society, not tribe society.

original commieism

>> No.7395020

>>7394981
>>i le didn't choose to live MOM!
This is a sound argument not to feel indebted to anyone to be honest.

>> No.7395021

>>7394990
a meme response deserves a meme response friend