“Let us burn this motherf*cking system to the ground”

[Anonymous No.7388982]

>Claire Vaye Watkins joins a growing chorus against the literary default of "white male writer"

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/24/this_must_read_essay_lights_a_match_aims_for_the_sexist_book_world_let_us_burn_this_motherfcking_system_to_the_ground/

Thoughts on this article? Tbqh I'm getting sick of seeing DFW everywhere.

[Anonymous No.7388995]

I'm not clicking on Salon

[Anonymous No.7388997]

>>7388982
>salon
not even clicking this trash. shill your clickbait nonsense elsewhere

[Anonymous No.7389010]

>>7388995
>>7388997
What's wrong with salon?

[Anonymous No.7389012]

>sexist book world
not gonna read the article, but if the book world was sexist, then right now I would not have to be slogging through Karen Joy Fowler, who doesn't know how to write a sentence that is not cliche

[Anonymous No.7389034]

>>7388982
I didn't even read your post but saw it was salon, so I assumed it had to do with how white men are the source of all evil in the world.

[Anonymous No.7389035]

>>7389010
salon has written like 50 articles about DFW already and it reads like the author was furiously rubbing her clit with one hand while she typed with the other.
Not surprising since the "staff" (unpaid because it's full of pathetic loser cunts) are all college/uni- "educated" (sociology degree or something equally pathetic) or recent graduates.

Clickbait nonsense indeed. It boggles my fucking mind when people think the Huffington Compost or the Washington Compost are real news sources, learn to think you goddam sheep, and the fact you can't tell there's something "off" about salon, which is 50x worse, just signifies you are borderline retarded and should stop posting forever

[Anonymous No.7389042]

>>7389010
I know very liberal feminist people who even know Salon is mostly garbage. Just let that sink in.

[Anonymous No.7389045]

>>7389010

It's a whiny leftism website run by cunts

I'm as sympathetic to leftism as anyone but every article salon publishes is a waste of five minutes.

They also hate white people

[Anonymous No.7389051]

>>7389045
I think hating white people is justified based at least on that pic.

[Anonymous No.7389329]

https://archive.is/kukh3
here you go, faggots
>kukh3
ayy

[Anonymous No.7389330]

>>7389010

[Anonymous No.7389370]

>Let's burn this whole motherfucking system to the ground

[Anonymous No.7389387]

Friendly reminder to male readers - you owe women writers nothing
I read for my pleasure not their approval. Fuck reading Bridget Jones Diary

[Anonymous No.7389391]

>>7389329
"the ever astute Jennifer Weiner"
kek

[Anonymous No.7389393]

>>7388982

>The stunning truth is that I am asking, deep down, as I write, What would Philip Roth think of this? What would Jonathan Franzen think of this?

Externalizing the blame for her own neuroticism. Lame.

[Anonymous No.7389401]

>>7388995
>>7388997

This.

Take it to /pol/ they'll rage over anything, even clickbait.

[Anonymous No.7389420]

>>7389391
Apparently her husband's name is Adam Bonin. Talk about patriarchal.
>Jennifer Bonin-Weiner
ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.7389422]

>>7388982
We will always love DFW more than them.
And it just breaks their little hearts.

[Anonymous No.7389469]

>>7389329
>In a gloriously righteous Tin House essay “On Pandering”
>the link gives 404

Whats the point in reading someone's opinion of an opinion peace, if I cant even read the original thing?

[Anonymous No.7389488]

>>7389469
Strange, when I click it I get directed to the article at this link: https://archive.is/XNdrv

Are you browsing at work or something?

[Anonymous No.7389508]

They can never be free until they learn to not give a shit what we think of them. As long as they worry what we think of them we will always oppress them even if we couldn't care less what they do.

[Anonymous No.7389509]

>>7388982
>tfw some fuckhead on VICE tried to write a serious political diatribe on Egypt's low electoral turnout
>tfw it's your job to summarise these idiots for an actual Egyptian magazine
>tfw you quickly leave a four paragraph essay, citing about ten other factors, every contradiction in his article, and basing a pronosis of millions of young Egyptians attitude based on one fucking guy, who literally said "I've had freinds who've joined IS"
>tfw the ironically moustached tweedy hipster cunt still hasn't responded, despite four more comments calling him out
>tfw you realize he's their seemingly dedicated Middle East reporter, and his shit is coming under my new section
>tfw you are going to be ruining every article he writes for months until he learns actual journalism

I may start posting pictures of El-Sisi looking upset to his twitter.

[Anonymous No.7389511]

>>7389509

I like your dedication. Go for it, follow your dreams and principles.

[Anonymous No.7389512]

>>7389010
They write articles solely for clicks

[Anonymous No.7389519]

>>7388982

This is one of those clickbait internet drama threads from /pol/ (that's all /pol/ is these days).

MODS PLEASE

[Anonymous No.7389524]

>>7389519
It's got pics of Franzen and Walrus though. And that is all that white men read.

[Anonymous No.7389526]

>>7389488
>The requested URL /blog/41314/on-pandering.html was not found on this server.

Thanks for the archive link though.

[Anonymous No.7389553]

>>7389509
Do you acknowledge that Muslims are a cancer upon the West?

[Anonymous No.7389627]

>>7389526
I don't know why your computer is fucking up buddy. Here's the direct link: http://www.tinhouse.com/blog/41314/on-pandering.html

[Anonymous No.7389678]

>>7389393
>Externalizing the blame for her own neuroticism

First world feminism in a nutshell.

[Anonymous No.7389738]

>>7389553
Not at all, and I'm a Catholic/Agnostic. The Egyptians I've met are incredibly funny and relaxed people, their sense of humor is basically 4chan's (no, I'm not joking either; imagine hearing regular holocaust jokes in a working office or on your first day, being told that the burger you just ate may give you Hepatitis C [which wasn't a joke, they just wanted me to eat it first before telling me about the health scares, and warning me not to fuck the local girls without condoms]).

I think Islamism is a cancer however, and Egypt is evidence of that with Morsi's disastorous rule (Egyptians are very much against all forms of political Islam now). The religion itself is neither particuarly good or bad, perhaps a bit violent, but it can be read in so many fantastic and beautiful ways, just look at Arabia in the 13th C when it was THE most advanced area of the world, or even the behaviour of devout men like Saladin compared to the Crusaders. I think the Bible's message of love is more appealing to me, but faith can be taken in far too many directions to paint a particular book with one brush. There are worrying aspect of Islam, and there are good ones; what Muslim countries lack is a proper education to embrace the positive elements.

[Anonymous No.7389740]

>>7389045
>They also hate white people
There is literally nothing wrong with this. Do you think it's wrong to hate cis men aswell?

[Anonymous No.7389744]

>>7389738
>The Egyptians I've met are incredibly funny and relaxed people, their sense of humor is basically 4chan's (no, I'm not joking either; imagine hearing regular holocaust jokes in a working office or on your first day, being told that the burger you just ate may give you Hepatitis C [which wasn't a joke, they just wanted me to eat it first before telling me about the health scares, and warning me not to fuck the local girls without condoms]).

The whole world except American and Western European university campuses makes jokes like that.

[Anonymous No.7389746]

>>7389740
sometimes i pretend i don't exist though, would i still be a cis and what should i do about it :/ ???

[Anonymous No.7389753]

>>7389744
Unfortunately, my whole world has been America and Europe up until that point. They've certainly kept unbelievably relaxed, the security at Cairo we're cracking jokes about my passport and just waved me through with a grin - I can see why they've been helpless at taking Daesh out, you'll routinely see policemen napping even when there's a significant risk a battered old van could drive past and spray them to bits. I mean, for fucks sake, they blew away eleven pickinicking Mexicans with apache canon fire by mistake, and then two separate government offices immediately blamed eachother for it.

[Anonymous No.7389794]

>>7388982
human stupidity is unfathomable

[Anonymous No.7389798]

>I wrote Battleborn for white men
>BURN THE WHITE MEN DOWN!

haha oh my jesus, family.

[Anonymous No.7389851]

So, why don't they just stop reading white male literature and start reading beautiful, perfect, literature written by women and PoCs?

Or is it not enough that they stop reading things that they don't like, do they want to force white men to stop reading literature they like and start reading crap by women and PoCs?

Why do some people hate the free market of ideas so much?

[Anonymous No.7389856]

>>7389740

>There is literally nothing wrong with this. Do you think it's wrong to hate cis men aswell?

>Do you think it's wrong to hate cis men aswell

>Do you think it's wrong to hate

Yes. Yes I do think it is wrong. If you're preaching Hate then you ARE wrong.

[Anonymous No.7389861]

LITERALLY LOLING AT THE PRIVELEGE IN THIS THREAD LIKE OMG CAN U NOT

[Anonymous No.7389864]

>>7389861

Fuck off Mira :)

[Anonymous No.7389872]

"And my evidence suggests that men read do books by women."

Do people even edit things anymore before they shit them onto the internet?

[Anonymous No.7389884]

>>7389856
>that opinion
>that use of capital letter
Hahahahahahahahaha fuck off and die.

[Anonymous No.7389890]

Sexism & the image of women as secondary to men will not die until desire itself dies.

The one with more desire has more power because he is more worried. Men tend to desire more than women—& who can blame either of them?

The only error lies in assuming that both sexes are identical... such an idiotic mistake!

[Anonymous No.7389894]

>>7389890
Reddit tier. Please go away.

[Anonymous No.7389911]

>>7389884

>that opinion

What of it?

>that use of capital letter

The "H" was an autocorrect accident and lack of proof reading after changing it. It originally came out "Haye" which I've never used before. The ARE because when I worded it out, I naturally emphasized that word, so that's how I wrote it.

>Hahahahahahahahaha fuck off and die.

Yeah, nice. You seem like a good sort. How about being constructive and supportive and see how that works out for humanity, rather than being sour and miserable.

[Anonymous No.7389918]

>>7389911
>What of it?
You think that oppressed people aren't allowed to hate their oppressors.

[Anonymous No.7389942]

>>7389890

>The one with more desire has more power because he is more worried.

So heroin junkies are among the most powerful people on the planet.

Dude what.

[Anonymous No.7389943]

>>7389918
How do cis white men oppress you exactly?

[Anonymous No.7389946]

>>7389943
Zey our our new 'joos', to be vrank. Zey are filthy liar und should be ashamed and kept in ghettos.

[Anonymous No.7389948]

>>7389943
You claimed that hate is categorically wrong, which would mean thar oppreased people's hatred of their oppressors is wrong.

I don't hate men or white people BTW.

[Anonymous No.7389963]

>>7389911
I'm not >>7389948 by the way. I'm a different anon - I just see people bitch and moan about 'cis white men' and can't work out why anyone would be so bitter.

[Anonymous No.7389964]

>>7389918

It's not that I don't think they aren't allowed, it's that they shouldn't. "If You Wanna Make The World A Better Place...I'm Starting With The Man In The Mirror."

Oh I just ignored the fact that you used the word oppressed. It wasn't out of malice I just don't understand the whole cis/SJW/tumblr" thing.

Also it's 1:00 in the morning and I've got to be at work in 6 hours so I'm going to bed, but I'll be back on first thing tomorrow morning.

Good night.

[Anonymous No.7389970]

hatred isn't an invalid emotion
c.uck ideology

[Anonymous No.7389973]

>>7389964
>If I act kindly to the upper class I'm sure they'll stop exploiting me!

[Anonymous No.7389993]

>>7389973

>men are upper-class by definition

Feminism is the bastard child of Marxism, and the useful idiot of capitalism. Blame the men as a group while the rich fuck you in the ass :)

[Anonymous No.7389998]

>>7389993
I didn't mean that. I was talking about oppression in general, so I used a different example this time.

[Anonymous No.7390014]

>>7388982
>"...fantastic piece for Buzzfeed earlier this year"

It hurt to read that.

[Anonymous No.7390017]

>>7389998
We are distracted from oppression by oppression.

[Anonymous No.7390040]

>>7390014
SJWs really are just a bunch of intellectual circle jerkers in their own insulated bubbles, aren't they?

[Anonymous No.7390122]

>>7390040
>intellectual
more like unemployable

[Anonymous No.7390138]

>>7390122
>>>/g/
>>>/sci/
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.7390143]

>>7388982
Yes yes! White males are evil cultural oppressors who must be stopped! We need to burn white culture to the ground so that we can rebuild it in a more progressive and inclusive fashion! Hehehe!

[Anonymous No.7390152]

>>7390143
Fuck off /pol/.

[Anonymous No.7390160]

>>7390143

[Anonymous No.7390167]

>>7390143

Finding 6 white people making virulently racist statements is impossible though :^)

[Anonymous No.7390176]

>>7390152
>post relevant quotes that make you uncomfortable
>WAAAAH WAAAAH GO BACK TO POL!!!!11!!1

>>7390167
Find me ONE Caucasian academic with as much prominence as either Susan Sontag or Time Wise making an overtly racist statement like calling an entire group of people "cancer" or celebrating their "extinction."

Do it, I dare you.

The double standard is obvious.

[Anonymous No.7390190]

>>7390176
i love how you think those quotes are relevant.

[Anonymous No.7390194]

>>7390143
Lol, all white. I doubt they actually said that. Now back to /pol/ with you!

[Anonymous No.7390204]

>>7390190
I love how you think your post has content.

>>7390194
>Jews
>white

LMAO

[Anonymous No.7390219]

>>7390204
Back to /pol/ with you. This is /lit/.

Jesus. Why has there been so many board jumpers lately?

[Anonymous No.7390225]

>>7390204
>accusing people of shitposting
>while shitposting

true /pol/etariat

[Anonymous No.7390232]

>>7390219
>>7390225
>JIDF shillposts without content

btw here's the sources for those quotes from earlier:

>you’re on the endangered list.

>And unlike, say, the bald eagle or some exotic species of muskrat, you are not worth saving.

http://www.timwise.org/2014/07/white-noise-immigration-antiracism-and-the-spreading-of-a-neo-nazi-meme/

>The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballets, et al., don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history…. [her italics]

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2007/aug/16/notes-on-susan/

Still waiting for some comparable quotes made by Caucasian academics.

[Anonymous No.7390245]

>>7390232
/pol/etariat indeed.

[Anonymous No.7390249]

>>7390245
Are you an Australian Jew?

[Anonymous No.7390255]

>>7388982
>an opinion piece about another opinion piece

wew. journalism has really gone to shit

[Anonymous No.7390257]

>>7390249
A British Christian. The fuck are you interested?

[Anonymous No.7390267]

>>7390257
>yfw

[Anonymous No.7390277]

>>itt: people keep validating the /pol/tard by replying to it

zzz it's almost like /lit/ wants to be a shithole

[Anonymous No.7390283]

>>7390267
Takes a jew to post this.

[Anonymous No.7390284]

>>7390277
Excuse you but I am a cis-gendered male and my pronoun is "him" not "it."

Check your privilege and stop oppressing me.

[Anonymous No.7390295]

New article just published on The Guardian website:

>World Book Night criticised for all-white 2016 giveaway list

>Fifteen-strong roster called ‘a sadly wasted opportunity to be truly diverse’ as space is found for Carol Ann Duffy and Matt Haig but not a single BAME author

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/nov/25/world-book-night-criticised-all-white-2016-giveaway-list

[Anonymous No.7390307]

>>7390295
That's a trash list anyway tbqhwy.

Also what the fuck is a "BAME"?

[Anonymous No.7390309]

>>7390307
BIG

[Anonymous No.7390311]

>>7390295
They are right, Carol Ann Duffy shouldn't be there - she's an awful poet.

[Anonymous No.7390316]

>>7390311
lol @ ur #fragilemasculinity

[Anonymous No.7390323]

>>7390295

>I have a dream, that one day, people will be judged not by the content of their character, but by the colour of their skin.

[Anonymous No.7390324]

>>7390323
kek

[Anonymous No.7390325]

>>7390323
>let's be inclusive by accentuating our differences

[Anonymous No.7390327]

>>7390323
#retweeted
#upvoted
#subscribed

[Anonymous No.7390328]

>>7390325
>let's be inclusive by only including white people

[Anonymous No.7390334]

>>7390328
>lets make inclusiveness rather than performance the goal of a competition

[Anonymous No.7390335]

>>7390328

[Anonymous No.7390337]

>>7390316
I'm a weedy little bisexual who spends all his time in the library. I'm not sure I have any masculinity.

[Anonymous No.7390340]

>>7390143
You're insane.

[Anonymous No.7390348]

>>7390334
But it wasn't about an award. I was about giving away free books.

[Anonymous No.7390349]

>>7390340
If pointing out Academia's rampant hypocrisy of preaching tolerance while simultaneously bashing whites makes me insane, then I take it as a compliment.

[Anonymous No.7390367]

is Salon a false flag to convert me to Salafism?

[Anonymous No.7390374]

>>7390367
Yes.

[Anonymous No.7390377]

>>7388982
Oh no not this again.
CMON KIDS LETS GO BACK TO SEGREGATION!

[Anonymous No.7390379]

>>7390349
>he thinks majority-white academia 'bashes whites'

It's almost as if racists are too stupid to go to university and see for themselves

[Anonymous No.7390389]

[Anonymous No.7390390]

[Anonymous No.7390395]

>>7390379
I graduated five years ago (I was the last class that was required to read Milton and Shakespeare before they were removed from the curriculum for being "too old, white and male.") and if anything the situation has gotten worse since then.

If anything, the fact that universities are majority white yet this anti-white rhetoric is still pushed in every "social sciences" department is evidence of a systematic effort to destabilize and deconstruct white culture.