/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7361738]

where's the english pdf version of this book?

[Anonymous No.7361810]

implying a eurasian unitarian would want his book translated into the language of the enemy

welcome to geopolitics freak

[Anonymous No.7361902]

bump~

[Anonymous No.7362082]

Bump

[Anonymous No.7362135]

Dugin is based as fuck.

Fuck America and its fag empire.

[Anonymous No.7362868]

bump

russian is fine too

[Anonymous No.7362882]

>>7361738
This thread happened a month ago. Some helpful anons tried their best, but the fact is there are no official translations yet.

The pdf is available in russian around the net tho

[Anonymous No.7362889]

>>7361738
Hasn't worked has it tbqhwy

[Anonymous No.7363195]

Bump. At this rate I'm waiting for a fan translation like with Mother 3 :P

[Anonymous No.7363205]

If you want it you'll have to pay for a translation; only CIA and other western intelligent agencies have an english version right now

[Anonymous No.7363458]

bump

>>7362882
really? tried asking a couple other places and still couldnt find it

[Anonymous No.7363830]

bump hype

[Anonymous No.7364489]

bump

anime

[Anonymous No.7364570]

so instead of bumping could we talk about what we know of this guy?

is this the mastermind behind the next world war?

[Anonymous No.7364603]

>>7364570
Well we could claim to know more about this guy if we could get his works translated into English by some concerned linguistic soul.

Other than that, he is pretty influential and was part of the push behind Russia's annexation of Crimea. His Geopolitical Ideas regarding the Eurasian landmass looks like it will be one of the many fault lines which will help contribute to WWIII

[Anonymous No.7364616]

May or may not have seen this already, but some of his thoughts, spoken in the Queen's English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uSuwYcqSsY

[Anonymous No.7364632]

do you guys think that the potential for russia (as opposed to, say, china) to become the united states' number one rival for global hegemony is a good reason to learn the russian language?

[Anonymous No.7364644]

>>7364632
I don't see a bipolar balance of power, at least for some time. What I do see is the emergence of a multi-polar world with region spheres of influence and regional powers such as Russia and China which might be the basis of an eventually bipolar conflict similar yet different from that of the Cold War. Oh and I wouldn't say to learn Russian or any particular language in any instance.

[Anonymous No.7364785]

Does anybody have a link to Russian version?

[Anonymous No.7364885]

>>7364616
>the Queen's English
He's clearly speaking American.

[Anonymous No.7365111]

bumpu for russian version even ;___;

[Anonymous No.7365680]

>>7364885
Papa Dugin would tell us Western Imperialist fools that he is simply speaking Russo-Anglo language because Russia is best empire!!!

[Anonymous No.7365745]

>>7364785
>>7365111
The original russian text is linked in the wiki article on it.
http://www.arctogaia.com/public/osnovygeo/
If you want a shitty translated version just open a section & press the translate button on chrome or copy & paste into translate. It'll be shit but if you've watched enough of his talks & read some articles from his site or generally on the subject of the text (http://www.4pt.su/en/content/aleksandr-dugin%E2%80%99s-foundations-geopolitics))
you should be able to figure out the bad translations.

[Anonymous No.7365749]

>>7364632
Russia has massive demographic problems (alcoholism, drug use, birthrate problems on par with Japan) and its wealth and power ebb and flow along with the oil markets. China and to a lesser extent south america is the future.

[Anonymous No.7365754]

>>7365749
All of those things are improving in Russia. Birth rate especially.

[Anonymous No.7365770]

>>7365754
We shall see. But they have other problems as well, like personal corruption and exclusivity of power (which tends to breed production malaise).

I'm not anti Putin or Russia, at least he is honest about things that US politicians are not, but that doesnt mean they are on China, India or Brazil's trajectory. And lets face it, the US recovery has been far better than Europe's.

[Anonymous No.7365786]

>>7365749
India is the future.

[Anonymous No.7365904]

China will rise slowly but surely. There will be some contention from India and some lobbying to see India move more into the US sphere of influence while Russia will remain a regional actor and thorn to US actions in the MENA region while the Chinese sit back and revel at the troubles the U.S runs into on the international stage.

[Anonymous No.7365910]

>>7362135
>America
>empire
They dont even have any colonies.

[Anonymous No.7366601]

>>7365910
Yeah but they do plenty that would fall under the guise of neo colonialism

[Anonymous No.7367035]

bump~

>>7365745
thank you f@m , appreciate it

[Anonymous No.7367096]

bamp

[Anonymous No.7367592]

There is another thread where we are getting someone to give us a copy of Dugin that they have in there school library.

[Anonymous No.7367597]

>21st century
>russia being relevant
>mfw the chinks colonize their vast wasteland

[Anonymous No.7367616]

>>7367592
which thread?

[Anonymous No.7367622]

>>7367616
It's a general thread on Russian Lit. It's getting a decent amount of traffic and I am keeping my eyes on it at the moment.

[Anonymous No.7367666]

>>7367622
>>7362682

4pt has a lot of dugin on it but his main works are still hard to find. I remember seeing a seeded torrent for the fourth political theory. bookz, #bookz, most torrent sites & several of the online book sites on Tor don't really have anything in the english language. I'm always keeping an eye out for his works, but they're hard to come by. Unfortunately I don't really have the time to learn russian...

[Anonymous No.7367673]

>>7365786
DESIGNATED

[Anonymous No.7367797]

>>7367666
So what exactly is 4pt? I hear it mentioned a lot around here when it comes to Papa Dugin related matters.

[Anonymous No.7367874]

>>7367797
http://www.4pt.su/en
Articles related to dugins thought, on dugin, or by dugin, some of the english ones aren't completely pro dugin, but they elaborate objectively. I've only read a handful of articles but I hope it helps.

[Anonymous No.7367880]

>>7367797
dugin fan site

[Anonymous No.7367889]

>>7367597
>>7365904

In the 1970's Japan was expected to do the same.
They'd return as an even greater menace, an economic powerhouse, slithering between our fingers and dominate the rest of the world economically and therefore politically.

That's the time of Blade Runner's conception, when it was believed in the near future it wouldn't be impossible to see a the US's west coast Asianized to the point it might as well be Tokyo.
Now Japan has stagnated and is unlikely to be anything the 1970's expected it to be. Expectations haven't been met, at all.

All this "China is the world power of the 21st century" is laughably short sighted.
China has faced two tendencies in its history. One of centralization and one of fragmentation.
It has been fragmented as much as it has been united.
The Communist Party is in constant crisis management. Not so much now over its development ( although it is slowly but surely showing cracks ), but about its image domestically. The constant censoring of any message coming abroad about itself, signifies a deep insecurity. They're one of the handful of nations that blocks Facebook and Google for Christ's sake. Most dictatorships don't give a fuck about it, because they know they're in the saddle... Chinese communists don't seem so confident.

So no. Let's wait and see.
Russia shows a martial culture unlike any other of the developing nations. World history has proven that in the long run this matters much more than any 'growth' ( which in nowadays economic system is just a collapse in waiting ).
Chinese men are pussified mostly and the women are going through their own sexual revolution, without a moral backbone to keep it all in check ( thanks Cultural Revolution ).

[Anonymous No.7368064]

>>7367889
>Russia shows a martial culture unlike any other of the developing nations

Yeah but this is basically irrelevant when dealing with other great powers because of nukes. Okay, they can get a port on the Mediterranean, bully Ukraine, Belarus, etc. But an actual war with a real country just leads back to MAD. Any amount of élan can't make up for that. Then demographics, output, oil prices, puts them in a bad spot.

I agree China is just waiting to disintegrate though. I read somewhere they have 500 protests a day of varying sizes (an estimate obv).

[Anonymous No.7368087]

>>7368064

It isn't irrelevant. It's the perfect platform to bring about the expansion of the military.
Which is exactly what's happening in Russia now.

If a huge military was irrelevant because of nukes, the USA wouldn't have a budget that dwarfs the next 10 greatest military powers in the world.
It isn't to bully leftists, it's because it's actually needed to maintain an empire.

[Anonymous No.7368118]

>>7367889
this

most importantly though, china has more or less good relations with the us, because of how integrated our economies are. the complete oppose can be said about russia.

in conclusion, i'm learning russian. be back with that dugin translation in a decade or so. keep bumping this thing.

[Anonymous No.7368226]

>>7367592
that was me. Unfortunately not in English, sorry

[Anonymous No.7368230]

>>7365910
You don't need colonies to be an empire. America is by far the largest and most aggressive empire that has ever existed. They have their fingers in every pie and their throbbing member in every orifice.

[Anonymous No.7368497]

>>7367666
thanks
my russian is rusty and in shambles

maybe ill attempt a translation though (if you see one pop up in like a year remember this post)

[Anonymous No.7368693]

>>7368497
You'd be a legend and a Rock Star among the Dugin crowd so that's worth something at least.