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Current events with ISIS have led me to investigate Islamic theology (on a very cursory level), and it amazes me how rich and divergent different interpretations and texts can be, and how they sometimes interconnect with Christian and Judaic texts, each of those religions with their own rich histories. It's nuts how it's all almost this grand narrative linking these three major religions with a mind boggling amount of offshoots.

And what really amazes me is that it's all complete bullshit. How does something like this happen? How does something so obviously bullshit evolve and grow into the richness of Abrahamic theology?

>> No.7356894

What makes it 'obvious bullshit'?

>> No.7356897

>its all complete bullshit

Except it isn't

>> No.7356907

>>7356889
They have faith and conviction. You don't.

>> No.7356912

>>7356894
The prophets, the miracles, the messiah, the histories, the genealogies. Come on, you can't really read that stuff and think "yep, don't see anything wrong with that. All totally reasonable to me."

>> No.7356918
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>>7356894
>>7356897
>no prophets for ages
>God's actual fucking son comes back
>SAYS there will be no more prophets
>literally God's SON telling you there will be no more prophets
>half a millennium passes, everyone is cool with this because they're not retarded
>suddenly some random asshole
>"HEY GUYS, I'M A PROPHET! LOL BUT I'M ALSO A SPECIAL MAGICAL PROPHET WITH NO PRECEDENT AND NOT ATTESTED IN THE BIBLE :D BTW THERE CAN BE NO MORE PROPHETS AFTER ME :/ BTW MY BAND OF ILLITERATE CHILD RAPISTS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE, AND GOD TOLD ME IN MY SLEEP THAT I CAN FUCK ALL YOUR WIVES AND YOU ALL HAVE TO OBEY ME, TRUE STORY BRO :P LOL"
>wow this guy seems legit

>> No.7356949

>>7356918
That's not a proof

>> No.7356957

>>7356912
It's mythology faggot. Minotaurs and hydras and shit don't exist either but it's high art designed to create the religious experience within you.

>> No.7356961

>>7356889
We've had like six threads on this already. I'll sum them up for you
>people agree that Islam is a retarded religion for uneducated desert savages
>butthurt Muslim comes in and starts whining about how he ignores key verses in the Qu'ran that endorse social oppression and the murder of nonbelievers, so this proves that Islam is a religion of peace
>everybody calmly points out that Islamic extremism is tolerated at alarming degrees inside Muslim communities and that the Qu'ran lends itself more easily to violent interpretations than other faiths
>butthurt Muslim blames the West for the fact that many members of his religion follow these teachings of the Qu'ran and kill gay people and behead infidels, says that more government money should be spent on integrating his moronic people into greater society and that it is their fault members of his faith want to kill everybody
>everybody calmly points out that God probably isn't real, Islam is an idiotic ideology built upon legitimizing war and oppression, and that nobody wants to be around butthurt Muslims if there's a possibility of being killed by them/smelling them
>nothing is resolved, and butthurt Muslim probably runs away to his iman or joins ISIS, who knows

>> No.7356984

>>7356961
>>7356957
These don't address the point of my thread, though, which is how does such a detailed mythology with such ardent followers originate and evolve, flowering into varied and competing interpretations? The same could be asked of Greek mythologies, but since we currently live in a world of Abrahamic religions I thought it would be more relevant.

>> No.7356993

>>7356918
Are you OP? If so, do some more reading. If not, 6/10 bait. Keep working on it.
>>7356961
(You)

>> No.7357005

>>7356993
>Are you OP?
no, I'm OP and I didn't make that post you're replying to.

>> No.7357445

>"My opinion is objective truth and I shouldn't critically overthink it"
>"Why do intelligent people researching that subject disagree?"
Flawless argumentation there OP. Leaving church right now

>> No.7357477

>>7356918
Don't go spearheading the bait, /lit/.

>> No.7357483

>>7356889
>And what really amazes me is that it's all complete bullshit. How does something like this happen? How does something so obviously bullshit evolve and grow into the richness of Star Wars/Sonic The Hedgehog/Pokeymons
Would you like people to be interested in different bullshit, because it's going to be bullshit whatever the form?

>> No.7357494

While this is obviously a troll thread and will probably descend into butthurt Commies sticking up for Islam for some zany reason or another...

The reason so many people bought into Muhammed despite Christ saying there would be no more profits is because many of Muhammed's early followers were Pagans and as such did not give a single fuck about what Christ said.

If some guy came to you and said "Convert to New-Confucianism or die", would it matter in the slightest to you if Confucianism said "Yeah, nah, Confucius was the last prophet to come along, there will be no more"?

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>>7357494
prophets* hurr

>> No.7357505

>>7357494
Your post quality could really improve from lurking moar. You believe a lot of crazy shit about yourself and others and your prose is not yet honed enough to contain that.

>> No.7357539

>>7356918
Bear in mind he conquered the shit out of what must have seemed like the whole world to those peasants eyes. It's pretty easy to spread a really silly belief system if you have complete control over an area - look at the Kim family.

>> No.7357588

>>7356961
>the Qu'ran lends itself more easily to violent interpretations than other faiths

>Deuteronomy
>13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
>13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
>13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
>13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
>13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
>13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
>13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
>13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
>13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
>13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
>13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.