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Could you point me to any philosophical works that talk about the existence of the soul? Personally I'm not convinced of the existence of the soul, let alone the immortal soul.

>> No.7351857

Phaedo by Plato

>> No.7351900

>>7351854
De Rerum Natura;
it posits that the soul dies together with the body. This conception can you swallow?

>> No.7351929

>>7351854
probably every major philosopher
e.g Immanuel Kant would argue that the soul may exist because we do not have the tools to observe it.

>> No.7351954

Obviously aristotle, but you must read guidebooks or at least a good edition with many axplanatory notes etc.

>> No.7352010

>>7351929
>argue that the soul may exist because we do not have the tools to observe it.
Deadman paradox. If we have no way of observing it, and thus nobody has ever observed it, where does the idea even come from?

>> No.7352069

>>7352010
From the apparent divide between the I as perceiving subject and the me as empirical object

>> No.7352076

>>7352069
the possession of faculties in which we perceive the world = soul?

>> No.7352164

>>7352076
Not necessarily but it's enough to spur some dualistic intuition

>> No.7352169

...dude, people thought we had souls when we had no substantial conception of how biology works. Why the hell would you waste your time this way?

>> No.7352195

>>7352169
Biology sheds no light on why our behavior and mental states are accompanied by subjective experience
Reading specifically about souls seems a bit narrow but philosophy of mind is an active field of study

>> No.7352202

>>7351857
Also Alcibiades (largely thought not to actually be by Plato, however)

>> No.7352203

>>7351854
is this seriously something that educated people debate in 2015? what the fuck humanities

>> No.7352208

>>7352169
it's still a relevant question.

>> No.7352210

>>7352195
that is objectively wrong.
im sure the exact sort of person that gets triggered when scientists talk about philosophy and theology too

>> No.7352224

>>7351854
Want a description of the soul? here's one for the normies.

Ever fuck a nasty or slutty bitch? you're thinking the whole time about how you shouldn't. that's the soul. the higher thought. it's separate from the animalistic urges like those so bang out with bitches. it's the difference between the guy you are in your head, and the actions you do.

>> No.7352236

"Soul" is just a word defined as "whatever makes a living thing alive that a dead thing doesn't have." Before modern understanding of biology, the soul was commonly thought to be a physical or magical thing that literally existed in the body and left upon death. Now we can understand that it just refers to a certain arrangement of matter that allows metabolic chemical processes to continue

>> No.7352578

>>7352195
Define "subjective experience" using only formal terms.

>> No.7352646

>>7352210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0-jKmcNr_8

>> No.7352657

>>7352646
As somebody who studies neuroscience, this triggered me as fuck.

>> No.7352781

Scholastic stuff such as Aquinas's works. Based heavily off of Aristotle's metaphysics if you're into that.

>> No.7352785

Why the fuck do you care about this shit 0_0

>> No.7352989

>>7352224
Sounds like the Superego to me desu