/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7343473]

>Reminder it is better to write than to type
Also what does the handwriting of /lit/ look like?
>pic related
Also graphology is a hoax and bullshit.

[Anonymous No.7343799]

>>7343473
while i think youre a faggot, i do in fact write and think in long hand. typing is doc prep and clean up.
not always, but frequently - usually, in fact, except for when i think its crutch.
still think your opinion is for faggots.

[Anonymous No.7344944]

>>7343473
Your handwriting's shit senpai

[Anonymous No.7344947]

>tfw you never learned how to write cursive

[Anonymous No.7345030]

I am struggling to improve my handwriting (and no, I'm not an illiterate American)
Anyone got any tips for improving? How can you write neatly with acceptable speed?

[Anonymous No.7345056]

>>7344944
>>7344947
Cba to change it for you guys
>>7345030
I'm not sure why you want to improve it.
Also post your handwriting

[Anonymous No.7345060]

>>7344947
I don't know how that's even possible. Your usual writing should eventually turn cursive because you need to write fast sometimes and contrary to the ridiculous, absurd belief that cursive is flowery and full of pointless flourishes, cursive is in fact what format writing becomes when you write a lot very fast.

If your handwriting is still like that of a computer's it just means you don't write with your own hands enough.

Also, OP is a fag. I too believe it's better to hand write but it's stupid as shit to act smug and superior because you do it. It just helps you remember and organize thoughts more efficiently (on top of the strong impression made by the symbolic and imaginary qualities of writing with pen and pape)

[Anonymous No.7345167]

>2015 ANNO DOMINI
>amerifags still dont know how to write cursive

[Anonymous No.7345179]

I type faster than I can hand-write. My typing is able to keep up with my thoughts. Hand writing causes me to get hung up on particular words, or worse to forget the rest of phrases while I'm jotting. Being not-used to hand writing, my hand becomes sore quickly.

Moreover the editing capability of word processors is extraordinary: copy and paste, undo, redo, move this paragraph out of the way for now, bring it right back in etc.

The risk with word processors is that one get hung up on the text layout (this can really, really have strong effects on poetry composition, usually not for the better). You are also restricted to writing inside at your desk, whereas a notebook can follow you out into the rain and into the hay field.

Fortunately, one is not restricted to either or. I'm not sure why I just wrote all this, it's obvious. I'm not sure why this thread exists either. oh well!

[Anonymous No.7345239]

I tend to remember notes better handwritten than typed. I'll only type them if I don't have my notebook handy.

[Anonymous No.7345248]

I like to compose longhand as well

[Anonymous No.7345284]

>>7345060
I'm basically saying it's better to formulate work writing it out and then you can transpose it to the computer

[Anonymous No.7345304]

[Anonymous No.7345523]

>>7345056
Rate me m8

How to improve?

[Anonymous No.7345544]

My handwriting is horrible, so I don't write by hand.

I don't write by hand, so my handwriting is horrible.

[Anonymous No.7345546]

>>7345239
7/10, the second line weirds me out
>>7345248 uhh
>>7345304
you've got flair, a little more tidyness would do you good

[Anonymous No.7345549]

>>7345523
Use a pen you fucking savage

[Anonymous No.7345561]

>>7345549
No u

[Anonymous No.7345605]

>>7345523
Follow this guy>>7345549
Also your handwriting is pretty although later you get sloppy in sentences, but good poem. But I can't talk smack my writing is scribbles and squiggles. I'm op
>>7345544
Post
>>7345304
Fascinating style, it's like its own defined art
>>7345239
Basic cursive, not your own style in English as it is not your first language >>7345248
You story reminds me of kerouac and your writing feels like a forest, certain letters tall and skinny like a tree probably like yourself

[Anonymous No.7345637]

>>7345605
>that last comment

[Anonymous No.7345661]

>>7345544
>>7345605

I think I win.

Hope you people can use it to feel better about yourselves.

[Anonymous No.7345691]

>>7345661
I can't see anything

[Anonymous No.7345716]

>>7345691

[Anonymous No.7345726]

>>7345716
You have the perfect handwriting for a dying man

[Anonymous No.7345737]

>>7345726

well that's uplifting.

[Anonymous No.7345751]

>>7345726

I'm dead inside, so I guess it fits.

[Anonymous No.7345794]

>>7345737
>>7345751
:')

[Anonymous No.7345952]

>>7345605
got pretty analytical there on my forestlike handwriting, I'll take it of course

[Anonymous No.7345965]

>>7343473
Sounds like what a potential serial killer would say...

[Anonymous No.7346115]

Rate me

[Anonymous No.7346120]

>>7346115
your poem is okay and the handwriting is legible

I guess you're .... 32

[Anonymous No.7346138]

>>7346120
Thanks. 21

[Anonymous No.7346140]

r8 me m8

[Anonymous No.7346152]

>>7345060
>you need to write fast sometimes
No. I type fast instead.

[Anonymous No.7346169]

My teachers actually complained so much about my handwriting I had to go to special classes in high school, they didn't help much.

[Anonymous No.7346179]

>>7346140
It's very readable! the poem is shit though, but you knew that. I'm sure you can write something good though.

[Anonymous No.7346190]

>>7346169
Looks very similar to mine when I'm writing quickly. And I know the struggle.

[Anonymous No.7346205]

>>7346179
You're right. Someone told me in a critique thread the poem was pretty, but deep down I knew it was absolute shit. Your comment proved my dark little intuition to be true.

I should stick to prose.

[Anonymous No.7346213]

>>7343473
>>Reminder it is better to write than to type
i cant really write 10 of my stories and ship to publishers to get my shit published, can i? not unless i want to not sleep for a few days.

[Anonymous No.7346217]

>>7346205
Read the first four lines out loud, do you notice anything?

>He sheds it and slips
>on a new white wifebeater

That tastes like tiny round rocks in my mouth, I garble marbles.

Poetry is for everyone, please try again.

[Anonymous No.7346225]

>>7346213
copy machines exist my friend

[Anonymous No.7346228]

>>7346120
Thank you. Nah, I'm 21. Why 32?

[Anonymous No.7346230]

Typing is faster faggot
Handwriting is for notes and frivolous paperwork

[Anonymous No.7346232]

>>7346213
>>7346225
OCR exists. Although it probably won't work unless you have impeccable handwriting.

[Anonymous No.7346234]

>>7343473
My writing has been shit my entire life and I haven't bothered to fix it because as long as I can read it, that's good enough.

[Anonymous No.7346235]

[Anonymous No.7346239]

>>7346234
The writings of a mad man
Seek help immediately
>>7346235
Pube on paper: disqualified. Go back to >>/r9k/

[Anonymous No.7346249]

only slightly related, but is it actually true that everyone with autism has nigh-identical handwriting? I've heard they all have that tall, narrow, slanted look and yet to see an example to the contrary

[Anonymous No.7346266]

>>7346249
Actually I have mild autism. Found out earlier this year when I went and got a psych evaluation.
This was mine
>>7346234

Here's another example of my fine work.

[Anonymous No.7346267]

>>7346239

[Anonymous No.7346270]

why is it better to write than to type

[Anonymous No.7346276]

I can't read cursive

When my mom left me notes as a kid, it all looked like squiggly lines to me.

[Anonymous No.7346283]

>>7346228
looks like you were taught cursive and dropped it over an amount of time, like some kind of post-parochial school situation, which is increasingly more common among older people

[Anonymous No.7346285]

>>7346217
I'm sure I have next to no sense for poetry. What about this one?

[Anonymous No.7346289]

>>7346266
did they make you take a MMPI2?

[Anonymous No.7346290]

First drafts longhand, revisions in MS word. For obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.7346300]

>>7346283
Interesting... I was taught cursive in kindergarten and that was it. I was in the same school district k-12.

[Anonymous No.7346301]

>>7346276
>be 15
>mom and dad takes a vacation for themselves for a week during summer
>leaves a note
>it's written in cursive
>all squiggles to me
>fuckit.jpeg
>decide to stay the night at a friends house
>they ask me if I don't want to stay the whole week, they'll cook dinner for me
>not just mac & cheese all week
>fair enough, friend has a ps2
>play FFVII all week
>come back home
>parents comes home
>screaming from their bedroom
>the note said
>"remember to take your brother out of the crib and feed him five times a day"
>tfw

[Anonymous No.7346305]

>>7346276
>be 15
>mom and dad takes a vacation for themselves for a week during summer
>leaves a note
>it's written in cursive
>all squiggles to me
>fuckit.jpeg
>decide to stay the night at a friends house
>they ask me if I don't want to stay the whole week, they'll cook dinner for me
>not just mac & cheese all week
>fair enough, friend has a ps2
>play GTA all week
>come back home
>parents comes home
>screaming from their bedroom
>the note said
>"remember to take your brother out of the crib and feed him five times a day"
>tfw

[Anonymous No.7346310]

>>7346289
>>7346289
Nah. I took two different tests (one of which was an IQ and apparently I did so well on it they didn't want to tell me my result) and the other was just a general "how much does this apply to you" test.
Then I talked to the guy for about 2 hours.
His job is to figure out whether or not people have certain mental shit (for legal purposes) and I wasn't really surprised by the result so I'm operating off of the basis he is right

[Anonymous No.7346312]

Ooh I wanna join!
First poem in years that I wrote the other night.

[Anonymous No.7346315]

>>7346267
Is that a portrait of me? That's awfully kind of you anon!

[Anonymous No.7346324]

>>7346285
Far better! Not sure about the contractions, are you from the south or something? But really, that's not bad.

[Anonymous No.7346333]

>>7346315
You're welcome

[Anonymous No.7346336]

>>7346324
I think maybe he's just writing in dialect, but I dunno. I thought the same thing though about the contractions. They send the right message but they're like misplaced in the words

[Anonymous No.7346338]

>>7346310
why would they with hold IQ scores?

[Anonymous No.7346343]

>>7346336
The first poem made me think it was about the south, with the beating of wives and whathaveyou, and I thought they actually worked better there: with the theme.

[Anonymous No.7346344]

>>7346324
Oh cool, thanks anon.
>are you from the south or something?
If by south, you mean South Australia, then yeah. So >>7346336 is right. I was writing it in dialect.

[Anonymous No.7346346]

>>7343473
Print...

[Anonymous No.7346349]

>>7343799
>think in longhand
Nga wtf

[Anonymous No.7346351]

>>7346338
Like I said. I went there for legal purposes. It's for a whole court thing I'm going through. I don't know if that gives them a legal reason to withhold them but they politely declined to tell me what they were and left it at, "It was extremely high." That's also the reason they gave for withholding it.
I didn't push it but I'm sure if I had asked they would have had to give it to me

[Anonymous No.7346352]

>>7346346
...and cursive.

[Anonymous No.7346354]

>>7346346
That's actually kind of cool.
>>7346352
Not so much

[Anonymous No.7346356]

>>7346351
why didnt they give you an MMPI-2?

[Anonymous No.7346450]

>>7345605
>not your own style in English as it is not your first language
You're spot-on about the style--I've always had a poor hand--but English is actually my first. The Russian at the end was an exercise.

[Anonymous No.7346481]

Help /lit/.... How in the actual fuck do you improve handwriting?
I think professors are grading me harsher because they can barely read my essay responses. Is there some resource where I can learn something I might have not solidified when actually learning how to write? Like move your arm not your hand or some shit?

[Anonymous No.7346551]

>>7346356
No idea.
They weren't looking for anything in particular as I recall.
Just seeing if I had anything out of the normal (and thus qualified for mental health court)

[Anonymous No.7346562]

>>7346551
what, did you try to rearrange a police officer's utility belt alphabetically?

[Anonymous No.7346583]

I majored in nonsense

[Anonymous No.7346602]

>>7346562
Long story, but basically I was aware of something my best friend had done, unbeknownst to me he had been doing things in such a way that incriminated me, and I got fucked over as a result.
I stopped talking to him needless to say.

After some investigation by my lawyer, we have a decent amount of evidence in my favor and the Prosuctor doesn't have much but it still isn't 100% I'll win if I take it to trial, so we are trying to take an alternative approach so I don't get felonies on my record.

[Anonymous No.7346623]

[Anonymous No.7346626]

>>7346583
If you're gonna write that sort of stuff, you need a fountain pen or it will always look like chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.7346643]

>>7346583
Psychology?

[Anonymous No.7346670]

>>7346643
Hah. Nah. I've been to a few really shitty schools and I'm never giving another dollar to any college.

>>7346626
I have a turkey feather I could slit.
I probably should invest in an ink well.

[Anonymous No.7346873]

>>7346305
kek

[Anonymous No.7346879]

>>7346115
best handwriting in the thread

[Anonymous No.7346912]

>>7343473
Just read the bottom for best reference.

[Anonymous No.7347121]

>>7343473
>Reminder it is better to write than to type
it's not.

[Anonymous No.7347140]

>prefer writing, but hate transcribing everything to digital when I'm finished

FUCK

[Anonymous No.7347159]

Bask in my handwriting anon's.

[Anonymous No.7347162]

>>7347140
I find it gives you a chance to revise again, and gives you a better feel for it.

[Anonymous No.7347322]

>>7347159
I remember this from /ic/. Not the same anon, the real guy was way more humble.

[Anonymous No.7347455]

>>7347322

All those feathers in me arse have made me a right pea(cock)

[Anonymous No.7347514]

>>7345060
This. OP reminds me of that writer in Mao II who only wrote novels on typewriters and refused to move on to computers, even for all the flaws in typewriters. Not embracing new advances is close mindedness in its own >right

[Anonymous No.7347520]

So do you guys have signatures? I made one when I was angsty in middle school, but I felt stupid using it for serious documents and credit cards as I grew up so I just stuck to writing my name in shaky cursive.

Am I bound to that autism for life? When do I transition to a flashy, official looking signature that my parents and all other old people seem to have?

[Anonymous No.7347521]

>>7346140
>>7346179
It's very decent as song lyrics though.

[Anonymous No.7347524]

>>7347520

You need to recognize that signatures aren't "read" they're "recognized"

The letters aren't supposed to be legible, they're supposed to aesthetically pleasing.

[Anonymous No.7348045]

>>7347159
>>7347455

Holy titfuck, go back to the sixteenth century Galileo

[Anonymous No.7348066]

>>7343473 your hand writing manages to look worse than mine wtf senpai? Why u shake so much

[Anonymous No.7348304]

>>7344947

[Anonymous No.7348338]

>>7346481
Exactly that. Move your arm, not your hand (wrist).

[Anonymous No.7348343]

>>7346912
Oh wow that's great! How did you learn to do it?

[Anonymous No.7348344]

>>7347455
how

[Anonymous No.7348353]

This is the only example I have handy.

[Anonymous No.7348361]

>>7348344

I just stuck to the cursive I learned in primary school.

[Anonymous No.7348375]

>>7348361
You sound like you went to a great primary school!

I remember being told I had good writing in primary school, but I remember that I was a slow writer, and learning to keep up with everyone else made me sloppy

[Anonymous No.7348386]

>>7348361
the nutritious salad, the leather bound journal, the pristine black pen and luxuriously slanted cursive. raised lettering. pale nimbus. very impressive

>>7346912
you write like someone with artistic ability

>>7348375
you have high estrogen levels

[Anonymous No.7348400]

>>7348386
>you have high estrogen levels

I don't think that's true

[Anonymous No.7348413]

>>7347159
>>7347455
A real shame it's fucking unreadable you dunce.

[Anonymous No.7348418]

>>7348375
It was private and the teacher had a ruler.
>>7348386
Thanks Patrick.
>>7348413
I can read it just fine, that's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.7348424]

>>7343473
lmao, retarded americans dont learn cursive as basic handwriting. We in Belgium never learned anything other than cursive

[Anonymous No.7348459]

>>7348400
curvy letters imply curvy hips

[Anonymous No.7348645]

In catholic schools they teach the Palmer method but most abandon it by the time they get to highschool/university. I had to reteach myself

[Anonymous No.7348895]

>>7348343
I didn't really "learn" it. Since I was a teen, I just chose to adapt my handwriting to simulate a style that has appealed to me.

>>7348386
Thank you, I really like the mathematics and small, sparse style of yours. I am an artist, not of great ability, but I do try to have appealing handwriting.

[Anonymous No.7348951]

Here's a bit from my commonplace book.

[Anonymous No.7348957]

>>7348951
And here's some from about a year later. I doubt I'm improving; I really need to try harder.

[Anonymous No.7349449]

>>7348951
>>7348957
What kind of journals are those?

[Anonymous No.7349465]

>>7349449
Not him but probably moleskin desu my family

[Anonymous No.7349485]

>>7349449
>>7349465
Yep, Moleskine, the large & ruled kind.

[Anonymous No.7349500]

I haven't practiced handwriting for very long, I got these Sheaffer pens about ten years ago, and just got refills recently...

I like to leave a bit of space for digesting.

[Anonymous No.7349515]

>>7349485
I've heard they aren't as good as they used to be. First pic of yours has a lot of bleed through, but the second pic doesn't. Different pens?

Just to comment on your writing though, it didn't look like it's improved much to me. No offense I hope. One thing I did to improve my handwriting was relearn cursive. Experiment with different scripts and methods.

[Anonymous No.7349546]

>>7349515
I wouldn't know how they used to be, I only started keeping them in 2014 (as a New Year's resolution). But yeah, there's certainly bleed-through; I thought I saw more in the second picture, myself. I use a Lamy Safari for almost every page, since I leave it attached to the closing-band on the journal.

I was thinking of switching to a different type of journal, but it would ruin the consistency of having a lot of them lined up and pretty to look at. And in some way, I like the messiness of the bleeding.

I do still know and use cursive (for notes that actually need to be written quickly), but it's just as bad looking as my print. I think what I might do is buy one journal to dedicate to handwriting improvement and practice. Cursives, alphabets, scripts and copying letter references into it. Having a journal to fill is the best kind of motivation I give myself; I use them for to-do lists too.

[Anonymous No.7349655]

>>7343473
The questions of a schizophrenic.

[Anonymous No.7349667]

>>7348361
Jesus, I swear that handwriting tells me so much about who you are as a person.

[Anonymous No.7349674]

My handwriting didn't change from preschool until i went to college. For some reason I never bothered to develop my own style.
Now i write everything in print. Perhaps because I'am a STEMer.

[Anonymous No.7349684]

>>7349655
My handwriting changed countless times throughout my teens. I didn't really consciously make the decision, it simply happened.

[Anonymous No.7349700]

>tfw people think I take notes in Arabic

[Anonymous No.7349765]

It's shit but you'd be surprised how much it's been improved

[Anonymous No.7349771]

>>7349546
>Having a journal to fill is the best kind of motivation I give myself; I use them for to-do lists too

I agree. I have a hard time keeping it. I mostly use it for to-do lists and keeping myself on track for the day. Sometimes i write entries but I keep it too a minimum. Too often I cringe while rereading them.

I'm looking for a new journal though... I am just using walmart teir lined books right now and would like to upgrade for that aesthetic you speak of.

By the way, how many pages do you fill in a day on average?

[Anonymous No.7350372]

>>7349667

Please do, I want to know.

[Anonymous No.7350504]

>>7345661
>>7345716

Luke?

[Anonymous No.7350524]

>>7349500
>>7349765

>>7348361
that is incredibly sexy

mine is absolute shite guys i know

[Anonymous No.7350591]

>>7343473
1/5inch grid for reference

>>7349500
2fancy4me

[Anonymous No.7350599]

>>7345030
there is but one answer: practice. it sounds pretty lame, but if you got some pages of cursive practice sheets, coined them, and devoted an hour a day for a month, you would see improvement. it is but a matter of doing.

[Anonymous No.7350613]

>>7350504

Who dis?

[Anonymous No.7350695]

>>7348361
Who the fuck writes this nice and how do you do it

[Anonymous No.7350927]

>>7350591
You have really similar handwriting to me.

Those engineering drafting classes really helped me write neater and more consistently

[Anonymous No.7350973]

>>7348386
oh my god, it even has a watermark.

[Anonymous No.7352678]

>>7350613

Just your friendly neighbourhood spiderman.

Any word from the job interview? What was it for again? Lab tech?

[Anonymous No.7352726]

>>7345179
When your write something without consciously thinking about it you should do so in a smooth, steady flow - one letter per heartbeat, one word per breath - then what you write will read like a transcription of what your soul says.

Don't forget to edit.

[Anonymous No.7353735]

>>7352726
hurr durr
>one sentence per bowel movent