/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7334130]

read/expected/got

[Anonymous No.7334152]

[Anonymous No.7334158]

[Anonymous No.7334161]

[Anonymous No.7334162]

>>7334161
kek

[Anonymous No.7334163]

[Anonymous No.7334168]

[Anonymous No.7334174]

[Anonymous No.7334176]

[Anonymous No.7334177]

[Anonymous No.7334178]

>Dirty old Jap.

[Anonymous No.7334182]

[Anonymous No.7334199]

[Anonymous No.7334231]

[Anonymous No.7334298]

[Anonymous No.7334302]

>>7334176
>(you)

[Anonymous No.7334303]

>>7334163
sorta
lel

[Anonymous No.7334315]

>>7334168
You're been reading in yours dreams again
it's okay though
happens to me all the time

[Anonymous No.7334328]

[Anonymous No.7334340]

[Anonymous No.7334488]

>>7334328
so you read a fighting book, you expected fight and you got fighting
ok then

[Anonymous No.7334719]

[Anonymous No.7334723]

[Anonymous No.7334727]

>>7334723
>when a nigga save your OC

[Anonymous No.7334729]

[Anonymous No.7334733]

>>7334727
What's the skeleton about?

[Anonymous No.7334734]

[Anonymous No.7334736]

>>7334177
Man some of those shorts are so fucking bad.

Gave me hope so its worth the read LOL

[Anonymous No.7334738]

>>7334733
"He was number one"

[Anonymous No.7334741]

[Anonymous No.7334743]

[Anonymous No.7334744]

[Anonymous No.7334750]

[Anonymous No.7334773]

>>7334750
And so on.

[Anonymous No.7334774]

>>7334158
So is that novel similar just to Werckmeister Harmonies or to Bela Tarr in general?

[Anonymous No.7334777]

>>7334199
Not even sure what to make of the "What I Got" section on this.

Bob Dylan, Coen Brothers, examination of a one dollar bill and a stamp?

I wonder if this makes sense if you read the book.

[Anonymous No.7334781]

>>7334168
Not sure if I got lucky or if they just fixed the error, but my copy of the penguin deluxe publication doesn't have the omission this meme is pointing out.

[Anonymous No.7334789]

>>7334777
I've read the book and mostly can't get anything in that picture

[The cats No.7334791]

>>7334130
Illuminatus! is terrible

[Anonymous No.7334792]

>>7334777
Bob Dylan because of the songs
Coen brothers because of the wacky tone
1 dollar bill because conspiracy theories
Stamp because the conspiracy theories revolve around the postal system

[Anonymous No.7334809]

oc

[Anonymous No.7334822]

[Anonymous No.7334830]

I'd comment on someone, but I've literally not read a single book ITT. I've never read any of these read/expected/got books.

[Anonymous No.7335123]

>>7334822
>reading misery porn

[Anonymous No.7335173]

[Anonymous No.7335284]

recommended

[Anonymous No.7335291]

>>7335284
>>7334809

when you just write all over the panels what they are supposed to mean you spoil the entire exercise.

[Anonymous No.7335292]

>>7334163
I don't get it? Its about sexual frustration?

[Anonymous No.7335297]

>>7334177
>Paranoia

Muh nigga

[Anonymous No.7335303]

[Anonymous No.7335308]

>>7334182
>Charges
>costanza.jpg

Brilliant. It is pretty close to Brazil though, I would say

[Anonymous No.7335318]

>>7335303
>third panel
oh my god

[Anonymous No.7335322]

>>7334729
Wait, is the Simpsons thing supposed to be a hybrid of Davie Crockett and Don Quixote?

[Anonymous No.7335327]

>>7334792
So basically what you expected and what,you got were thoroughly congruent. You are not very good at this

[Anonymous No.7335333]

>>7335303
Literally what?

[Anonymous No.7335337]

>>7335303
source of the comic plssss

[Anonymous No.7335343]

[Anonymous No.7335388]

OC to be honesto

[Anonymous No.7335408]

>>7334777
Maybe I'm not very good at this...

The pictures of Bob Dylan, David Byrne, and The Coen Brothers was an attempt to pin down the tone. I think a Bob Dylan song is the closest thing I can think of to the way Pynchon crafts a semi-surrealist story, especially Blonde on Blonde era. (the album present)

The bottom left is the conspiracy angle, but it's small, because that really isn't the focus of the book.

The bottom right is an attempt to represent the book's thematic elements, the division of a population, radical politics, and suburban repressionism, the main character being a conservative housewife who feels the weight of being trapped by tradition.

I suppose if I have to explain the picture though, I didn't do very well.

[Anonymous No.7335415]

>>7335284
is it really like five easy pieces?

[Anonymous No.7335460]

>>7335388
kek at the expectation

[Anonymous No.7335493]

>>7334168
I thought pens was in V. How fucked am I? It's all blurring together. Yikes.

[Anonymous No.7335529]

>>7335493
I think you're confused. "Pens." is the typo in GR Deluxe Edition. The joke is he bought Deluxe edition expecting GR, but got a typo instead.

I'm not sure what you mean by V. but it seems you are talking about something else.

[Anonymous No.7335542]

>>7334176
Please no, corn father

[Anonymous No.7335546]

>>7335493
Are you thinking about Stencil

[Anonymous No.7335605]

[Anonymous No.7335701]

[Anonymous No.7335732]

[Anonymous No.7335740]

>>7335732
I was really really disappointed. Boring as shit and not much more angst than Harry Potter.

[Anonymous No.7335753]

[Anonymous No.7335767]

>>7335740
It wasn't awful, and even knowing what was coming, the ending was a gut-punch. However, I couldn't shake the impression that Werther was a real creep. Another anon on here said that he'd like to read a version of it from Lotte's perspective, and I'm inclined to agree. I'm not surprised that Goethe was embarrassed by it later in life - I mean, just imagine if all your angsty teenage diary entries became an international bestseller...

[Anonymous No.7335781]

[Anonymous No.7335858]

>>7335732
Why did you expect it was going to be about mountaineering in the Renaissance?

[Anonymous No.7335909]

>>7335284
Halfway through this book right now. Had no idea it would be so delicious.

[Anonymous No.7335996]

[Anonymous No.7336164]

>>7335605
that spongebob part make me kek

[Anonymous No.7336176]

>>7334130
>fuck an apple
Explain.

[Anonymous No.7336524]

>>7335753
Went over Sartre in class and read an introductory essay in our text about him. Thought it was awesome stuff. I have a lot of his basic concepts down.

Should I jump right into Being and Nothingness? Or maybe read No Exit?

[Anonymous No.7336535]

>>7335781
incredible

[Anonymous No.7336536]

>>7334163
Fucking chriiiiiist

[Anonymous No.7336544]

>>7334152
But Huck Finn is the real Classic.

[Anonymous No.7336547]

>>7334723
That Spongebob reference is actually quite funny

[Anonymous No.7336553]

>>7334750
>it goes
>it goes
>it goes
>it goes

[Anonymous No.7336663]

>>7336176
Not much to explain, a character fucks an apple as part of a secret society initiation

[Anonymous No.7336669]

>>7334177
>codename kids next door

thought the same thing

[Anonymous No.7336675]

>>7336663
How do you fuck an apple? How was it described?

[Anonymous No.7336678]

>>7336675
It's a big apple and he fucks a hole in it

[Anonymous No.7336688]

>>7335996
that´s so fucking right

[Anonymous No.7336897]

[Anonymous No.7336921]

>>7334130
anyone got a template?

[Anonymous No.7336971]

>>7335996
>>7336688
what does this mean

[Anonymous No.7337002]

>>7336971
It's really not clever at all. I wouldn't be surprised if the one reply was the poster.

He thought the book would be about sex but it was more about a road trip.

Wow, oooh, ahhh -- witty

[Anonymous No.7337019]

>>7337002
I chuckled quietly. Heh, I whispered. Not even kidding.

[Anonymous No.7337022]

>>7336971
it's not a book about sex, it's essentially about a fucked up road trip around America

[Anonymous No.7337094]

>>7337022
>>7337002
thank you, my 0+2 family

[Anonymous No.7337149]

>>7336921
Are you really this laxy?

[Anonymous No.7337179]

>>7336897
holy shit kek

[Anonymous No.7337200]

To clarify, it's sort of a piece of shit, but hard to judge how big.
There's definitely some genius in there.
More contemplative and human than most of Pynchon's other work.

[Anonymous No.7337222]

Went in bone dry.

[Anonymous No.7337261]

[Anonymous No.7337301]

reposting my OC

[Anonymous No.7337332]

>>7334809

I fucking loved the Rastafarian space colony so much

[Anonymous No.7337335]

nobody on this board reads King because he is shit so nobody will ever get this

[Anonymous No.7337336]

>>7335909

Each one is better than the last one, though it's sort of hilarious watching Updike try to figure out black people in the next one

[Anonymous No.7337383]

>>7335753
has anyone here read "the wall" by him? is it good?

[Anonymous No.7337395]

[Anonymous No.7337396]

[Anonymous No.7337403]

[Anonymous No.7337410]

>>7334822
I met that guy
He was a cunt

[Anonymous No.7337418]

[Anonymous No.7337425]

>>7335292
Parts of it. Good read though.

[Anonymous No.7337438]

>>7335292
After a certain point every character introduced is described by the length of his penis.

[Anonymous No.7337440]

>>7337383
It's a very mediocre collection of short stories imo. Would not recommend. Read some of Camus short stories instead if you're into the whole existentialist fiction thing because they are miles better.

[Anonymous No.7337471]

>>7335337
did you sign up for 4chan yesterday?

[Anonymous No.7337496]

>>7335767
Either you need to read it again or you've got the feelings of a normalfag

[Anonymous No.7337497]

>>7334130
Are you fucking autistic? None of the authors (or 'heroes' of the book) were libertarians (in the american sense).

The book sends a very post-anarchist, post-left message

[Anonymous No.7337499]

>>7334177
>tfw no group to play Paranoia with now that I've read PKD, Papa Pynch, RAW and Burroughs

[Anonymous No.7337506]

[Anonymous No.7337510]

>>7337506
Probably the most disappointed I've ever been by a canon book

[Anonymous No.7337514]

>>7337506
haven't read it, but I laughed

[Anonymous No.7337530]

>>7337510
I'm actually enjoying it, but Pessoa is very much in love with his own genius and a lot of the sentiments are very affected. Despite that, a lot of the entries are quite poignant and he describes a malaise that is quite identifiable, if a little dramatic.
I think using a heteronym is his excuse to write without self-conscious editing.

[Anonymous No.7337532]

>>7337506
kek

[Anonymous No.7337559]

>>7337506
I got thru 1/2 of the book in about a week and shelved it

I'll probably take it out sometime down the road, but after a while his incessant whining, self spite, and contradiction become a drag

it's like a collection of elegantly written /r9k/ posts

[Anonymous No.7337572]

>>7334719
The guy at the book shop told me this was a good place to start with DFW, I'm having difficulty enjoying the amount of meta commentary, is this a reoccurring theme in his body of work?

[Anonymous No.7337577]

>>7337572
Yup, dude can't look away from his own writing for too long

[Anonymous No.7337614]

>>7337572
Oblivion and Girl With Curious Hair don't have endnotes like that

[Anonymous No.7337619]

>>7337577
>>7337614

Thanks senpai

[Anonymous No.7337624]

>>7337506
It's so true. I like the first half of the book but later on it gets really tedious. His whining actually inspired me to better myself so I wouldn't end up like him. Still, I would consider this book useful as a study of loneliness and disconnectedness. I think it'd be good for a Psychology class.

[Anonymous No.7337626]

>>7334744
>Someone finally saved my OC
Sorry you read that book. I tried to warn you.

[Anonymous No.7337627]

>>7337619
just go chronologically senpai

[Anonymous No.7337631]

>>7335343
>That scene when Gilgamesh repeats ...He provided for his friend
Also does anyone have one for Gromenghast?

[Anonymous No.7337639]

>>7335303

that comic was a little bit too rich for me if I'm honest

[Anonymous No.7337649]

>>7334750
lmao

[Anonymous No.7337658]

>>7337301
>I love you
>not delivered
kek.
Other than that, your expectation is spot on, really. How much did you know about it before you read it? All it needed was a pic for Septimus.

[Anonymous No.7337659]

>>7337496
Not that anon but what Werther is feeling is pretty normal, right? Trying to fight those feelings is pretty much life, isn't it?

I mean, I want to kill myself over all kinds of girls every day. People I "just want to be happy" that I can't stand being happy with someone else.

If this isn't normal the book is probably ok, if it's not: Werther never knew sorrow.

[Anonymous No.7337666]

>>7337659
>If this isn't normal the book is probably ok, if it's not: Werther never knew sorrow.
There are too many negatives here for me to understand what you're saying. The feelings of Werther are "normal" for any beta male, only he lacks the self-control to snap out of his downward spiral; a beta without brakes. Albert is the prototypical alpha/normie. I believe Goethe intended to show the end result culmination of an unchallenged beta line of reasoning.

[Anonymous No.7337668]

>>7337336
It gets better than this?
>tfw excited

[Anonymous No.7337669]

>>7337666
Based Mephistopheles trips

[Anonymous No.7337676]

>>7337666
This is good - and one of the reasons Goethe came to hate it, too many people romanticized Werther (even taking up his clothing style) and committed suicide, instead of looking at Werther's broken motivations or seeing through Charlotte's bullshit

[Anonymous No.7337692]

>>7337676
In this sense, it's somewhat similar to Dostoevsky's Notes from the Underground, in that it portrays an extreme and broken aspect of personality (The underground man overanalyses too much) and pulls the character through dilemmas to the ultimate conclusion of his "faults".

[Anonymous No.7337855]

[Anonymous No.7337940]

>>7337222
I went in bone dry as well, and didn't make it very far.

[Anonymous No.7338012]

tbvh

[Anonymous No.7338040]

>>7335767
It's an ironic book - the "young" is supposed to cue you in that Werther doesn't know sorrows - but Werther was written so sympathetically people took it at face value. Goathe was based as fuck, so late in life he basically understood that it should have been written in a Modernist/Postmodern way we're used to, like White Teeth. Any good book is going to include a fragment of the authors genuine experience shaped by form. He was embarrassed by his bad artistry, which didn't check his content enough.

[Anonymous No.7338093]

[Anonymous No.7338104]

>>7338093
Is bloom actually a kek or is that just him getting taunted in his dreams near the prostitutes?
I could never tell.

[Anonymous No.7338332]

r8

[Anonymous No.7338353]

>>7338104
He really is a kek. Molly cheats on him.

[Anonymous No.7338356]

>>7338104
>Is bloom actually a kek or is that just him getting taunted in his dreams near the prostitutes?

Are you seriously telling me you didn't catch any of the signs? Re-read Ulysses.

[Anonymous No.7338357]

>>7335333
I assume he meant
Shitty modern fetish writing.

[Anonymous No.7338365]

>>7337200
>The Sound and The Fury

I'm actually thinking of reading this book now.

>>7338093
There aren't enough mentions of breakfast to warrant that last panel if I may be so frank.

[Anonymous No.7338471]

>>7334719
Sauce on that ass?

[Anonymous No.7338489]

[Anonymous No.7338494]

>>7334178
hehehe

[Anonymous No.7338498]

>>7338489
What is the green haired thing on the bottom right?

[Anonymous No.7338505]

>>7338353
>>7338356
Yea I know molly cheats on him, but he is also seeing prostitutes; or that was what i understood.

Isn't full kek like when your girl is cheating and you just don't do shit about it like a beta? I guess he is at least kek in some respect, but usually I think of a relationship where both parties are cheating as just a failed relationship rather than a kek relationship.

Like you wouldn't call swingers keks despite it still being degenerate

[Anonymous No.7338510]

>>7338093
Confirmed for having read only the first 60 pages.

[Anonymous No.7338513]

>>7338505
No that's a wittol.

[Anonymous No.7338517]

>>7338498
A lemming.

[Anonymous No.7338529]

[Anonymous No.7338533]

>>7338510
this is a meme thread dude, you're supposed to present the memiest parts of the book

[Anonymous No.7338658]

>>7334161
dont know how you got Pynchon. Mao II is not funny at all.

[Anonymous No.7338692]

>>7338533
> memiest part of the book
> breakfast
There's literally a porn parody of Shakespeare with a fu-manchu Chinaman called Eg-Lin Ton

[Anonymous No.7339018]

>>7338489
That describes the most surface level reading possible
I seriously think most of /lit/ doesn't 'get' the book at all despite claiming to love it

[Anonymous No.7339024]

>>7337658
I first read it in a lit class in highschool and I was pretty excited about it so I read about it a bit before starting. And yeah, Septimus is a big omission, and the war in general. Probably could have added something about Dr Bradshaw like pic related

[Anonymous No.7339067]

[Anonymous No.7339094]

>>7337572
Pretty much.

>>7334719
Jesus, The Depressed Person and Octet with the footnotes.
Also, where's Bewitched r34 in this picture?

>>7335388
I hath* nothing to say
But pretty much yup

>>7336897
Lies.
There are no locusts in this picture.

>>7337396
>Ever thinking anything but a very limited number of Poe stories are actually horror

[Anonymous No.7339103]

>>7339067
The pic on the right always evokes some one of a kind emotion within me

The tree seems so poor and they seem so poor but also kind of happy for what they have in such a genuine and lighthearted way, more than I ever have in my redundant overly complex and overanalytical useless life

They are the true heroes and being unaware of actually subscribing to existentialism is what makes them our saviors

[Anonymous No.7339126]

>>7339018
I just tried to make it "funny".
Also, I don't know how to represent better the essence and core of the book in a single pic.
I mean, how would you depict the control/paranoia/the book deconstructing itself/causality/psychological development stuff?
The pic wouldn't be very appealing to the average /lit/ user.
(Besides, English is not even my mother tongue)

[Anonymous No.7339214]

>>7339094
>Jesus, The Depressed Person and Octet with the footnotes.
the depressed person is really amazing, the footnotes didn't bother me at all.

octet was cool, the parts where it got meta were a bit lazy but worth it i guess.

>Also, where's Bewitched r34 in this picture?
i don't remember the part you're talking about, only really vaguely. a character has a fetish for when she wiggles her nose? i never watched that show so it didn't really stick with me

>>7338471
i think i searched "ass" on bing images

[Anonymous No.7339307]

>>7339103
This is just reverse classism: all the same, you are just taking a (real or not) determination of a person, idealizing it, and reducing all his being to that single characteristic.

[Anonymous No.7339321]

>>7337530
The heteronym from the book of disquiet is the one most similar to himself actually, unlike the other big 3 heteronyms (Campos, Caeiro, Reis) who are pretty much completely different characters.

[Anonymous No.7339325]

[Anonymous No.7339347]

>>7335388

JSYK - "Nothing" in Shakespeare's time was pronounced similar to "Noting", so the play title is a triple pun:

>People are making a big deal over a misunderstanding, i.e. nothing
>People are "noting" or "eavesdropping"
>Whereas men have "something", women have "nothing"... Shakey's makin another cunt joke

[Anonymous No.7339353]

>>7337395

kek'd at the old man in the supermarket

[Anonymous No.7339389]

>>7337261

what the fuck has ganesh got to do with buddhism, you silly gentleman

[Anonymous No.7339396]

>>7339389
A lot. The Vedas and Hinduism in general had a huge influence on the development of Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.7339403]

[Anonymous No.7339424]

>>7339403
ayy good 1 m8

[Anonymous No.7339425]

>>7339307
But when you're looking at sub-100IQ late teens americans, you can pretty much tell that the 'single characteristic' is actually a huge chunk of their entire personality. They can't be *that* complex, even if you go by the assumption that every human being is in a way very intricate down there.

All I'm saying is reduction of some very complex mind would be way more detrimental and simply inaccurate than the one done here.

[Anonymous No.7339431]

>>7339403
I kekked

[Anonymous No.7339432]

>>7338529
So you when expecting to be abused, and came out sad and alone?

[Anonymous No.7339442]

>>7337335
lol this is kind of accurate

[Anonymous No.7339445]

>>7339396

but ganesh is just a big old goofy elephant guy who rides a rat, buddhism is all about reaching enlightenment and lotus flowers floating around on lakes and trasncendentalism and pacifism and whatever. trust me, i know religions, as you can probbably see

[Anonymous No.7339448]

>>7338357
Its the comic that I was "laterally what"-ing at

[Anonymous No.7339455]

>>7339425
>They can't be *that* complex


It's not about complexity in terms of pure personality, but it's that a person is never this abstract and fixed 'thing', an object; there is always a gap, a free distance in which a person can deny, affirm or change him or herself irregardless of those mere objective contingent circumstances.

[Anonymous No.7339462]

>>7339103
it was taken at a hospital

[Anonymous No.7339470]

>>7337403
Why did you expect Panic at the Disco?

[Anonymous No.7339482]

>>7339455
Another point is that, by judging a person to be a mere X instead a complex self, you're eo ipso reducing him to that determination, i.e. both of you are destined to be confined to your respective finite bodies and characteristics; this is the denial of the reconciliation and recognition which would imply a bigger context of meaning for those determinations themselves.

[Anonymous No.7339489]

>>7339482
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/se/abstract.htm

[Anonymous No.7339494]

>>7336675
motherless dot com slash 5C665C7

[Anonymous No.7339545]

>>7339214
Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed Octet. The Depressed person was okay, I understood what it was going for but I didn't love it. It's just the footnotes often didn't seem justified as footnotes, but as part of the story itself, and could have been incorporated without much issue. They ended up being like half the page, which made it kind of funny, rather than serious.
I really enjoyed Interviews. That book was a lot of fun. Or... whatever you'd call it.

Naw, one of the Interviews is with a guy who had an adolescent fantasy about wiggling his nose and stopping time, or something to that effect, and banging one of the people at his mothers gym. It's the only interview I remember not being in the film.

[Anonymous No.7339552]

[Anonymous No.7339553]

>>7338040
>the young can't know sorrow

[Anonymous No.7339741]

[Anonymous No.7339746]

>>7335701
>dat ending

[Anonymous No.7339760]

>>7338332
>Not adding that the Swiss are cowards who flee at the first sign of a strong enemy

[Anonymous No.7339774]

>>7337506

[Anonymous No.7339793]

>>7339741
That movie... the feels... I had that painting on my wall until... fuck, man...

[Anonymous No.7339837]

>>7334152
>>7334163
>>7334178
>>7334182
>>7334199
>>7334723
>>7334741
>>7334750
>>7334822
>>7334830
>>7335388
>>7335732
>>7335753
>>7335996
>>7337301
>>7337335
>>7337396
>>7337506
>>7338332
>>7339067
My sole aim in reading is to understand these panels and laugh with my fellow /lit/erati

[Anonymous No.7339858]

>>7339837
That implies most of those are funny when they are not

[Anonymous No.7339885]

>>7339858
Don't be such a debbie downer.

[Anonymous No.7339892]

>>7334340
Is that all you got from it? The "what I got" panel is really only half of it

[Anonymous No.7341082]

>>7337383
It's pretty cool

[Anonymous No.7341273]

>>7339793
sorry butwhat movie?what painting?

[Anonymous No.7341341]

>>7341273
Probably one of the Solaris movies (Tarkovsky's or Soderbergh's)

For the painting, I don't know

[Anonymous No.7341350]

>>7341341
I know it's not hip, but I enjoy both Solaris'
Russian QT is Qter though

[Anonymous No.7341362]

>>7341350
I've been planning to see them for over a year

[Anonymous No.7341368]

>>7336524
Start with his novels

[Anonymous No.7341373]

[Anonymous No.7341393]

>>7336524
>>7341368
His fiction isn't really that connected. If anything you'd want to read BN first to get an understanding of some things he alludes to in his fiction. But anyway I don't think you can really just jump into BN without some background in phenomenology. Probably just read a guide first/in conjunction, there's a good one by Sebastian Gardner

[Anonymous No.7341398]

>>7341350
I actually prefer the Murrican movie even though I saw it later. Hate the generic Soviet hysterics in Tarkovsky's version.

[Anonymous No.7341570]

>>7334130
Yes I know it's a pleb book, but the amount of praise it got I was expecting more than a young adult novel.

[Anonymous No.7341609]

>>7334130
yes RAW was one cooked sonuvabitch

[Anonymous No.7341721]

>>7337332

>tfw you will never get high and float around with space rastas

[Anonymous No.7341841]

>>7341570

>new york times bestseller!!!111
>Quote from USA Today
>Surprised at how dissapointing the book was

You should have seen that shit from miles away tbhfaм

[Anonymous No.7341852]

>>7334744

Is it really that bad? I keep bumping it down on my list without quite knowing why... I should just forget about reading it?

[Anonymous No.7341857]

[Anonymous No.7341858]

>>7336897

10/10

[Anonymous No.7342125]

>>7339837
Here's one for Lowry.

If you haven't read In Ballast to the White Sea, you are missing out on one of the greatest modernist novels

[Anonymous No.7343979]

[Anonymous No.7344002]

>>7335284
started this yesterday and I'm really liking it
I feel as though it takes Updike a while to really flesh out his characters

[Anonymous No.7344004]

>>7334130
Accurate

[Anonymous No.7344006]

>>7339837
Feels pretty good when you have read a good chunk of litcore

[Anonymous No.7344034]

>>7334741
explain?

[Anonymous No.7344041]

>>7334130
I will say this: you just don't get the references, The book is as thick as Ulysess, but you need to know a lot of stuff if you want to decipher it, and the majority of it is the material that the enlightened fedoras of 4chan would never touch, let alone understand. For starters, there's a reason chapter are named after the Sephiroth, and if you know your Kabbalah, you'll understand them more.
Another example, the whole scene with the golden apple actually explains in perfect detail one of the key elements of sex magick and sexual tantric practices.
It's written like a campy novel, but if you're not an autist and can understand symbols and multiple metaphors at once, it's a joy to read.

[Anonymous No.7344089]

This thread dead?

[Anonymous No.7344333]

>>7334830
>The Sun also Rises
>C.uck Tales
>bullfighting

couldn't be more accurate

[Anonymous No.7344337]

>>7341841
y'know 'tbhfam' but itself gets past it right.

[Anonymous No.7344341]

>>7335996
I kek'd

[Anonymous No.7344346]

>>7339470
that screenshot is from their video 'I write sins not tragedies'

[Anonymous No.7344352]

>>7334743
What is with that weird subtitle on the cover? That is not really what the book is about.

[Anonymous No.7344368]

>>7334130

[Anonymous No.7344465]

>>7337261
om motherfucker

[Anonymous No.7344795]

>>7343979
pls explain, I have the same version.

[Anonymous No.7344898]

OC here

[Anonymous No.7344932]

>>7335343
Gilgamesh is the ultimate bro-tier book.

[Anonymous No.7344956]

>>7344932
>>7344932
How so?
And could you also tell me why they use that max stirner caricature to trump arguments and similar things? Kind of a newfag but still haven't figured that out.

[Anonymous No.7344966]

>>7344956

[Anonymous No.7345006]

>>7343979
Haha not bad.

[Anonymous No.7345038]

>>7344956
Spooks.

[Anonymous No.7345120]

>>7344898
how do I into Irving? found Garp and Prayer for cheap. which one to start with?

[Anonymous No.7345209]

>>7345120
Honestly couldn't tell you. That's the only book I read by him and didn't like it

[Anonymous No.7345388]

>>7344956
>newfag trash
>doesn't even know about Gilgamesh of all things

I remember when newfags at least went through the /a/ filter first. You'd know about the bromance then.

[Anonymous No.7345410]

>>7335767
>werther was a real creep

you claiming this by today standards. at the time just the fact that he didn't just beat the shit out her in order to make her his wife was something that qualifies you as a fine person. I read it when I was 16 and I was deeply touched. and by the way at the end of the book Lotte goes to his house and tease him to death. She ain't innocent.

[Anonymous No.7345809]

>>7334723
Oh fuck. That Quentin's face.

[Anonymous No.7345816]

>>7344368
How did you not inadvertently see the movie first?

[Anonymous No.7345843]

>>7337335
Jesus Christ, that's so fucking accurate I damn near lost my goddamn mind.

[Anonymous No.7345863]

[Anonymous No.7345873]

>>7345863
good

[Anonymous No.7345921]

>>7345816
I didn't even know there was a movie untill I finished the novel. Damn good movie too, on par with the book

[Anonymous No.7345933]

What does 'OC' mean?

[Anonymous No.7345935]

>>7345863
I am having trouble thinking of a worse 18th century writer than De Sade. How he interposes philosophical musings with pornographic scenes is one of the most awkward and cringeworthy things I have cone across. A true bore from a true boor

[Anonymous No.7345939]

>>7345933
Like the show, you idiot

[Anonymous No.7345959]

>>7337395
kek

[Anonymous No.7346143]

>>7336524
go nausea then plays then b&n

[Anonymous No.7346223]

>>7345933
Own content.

[Anonymous No.7346226]

>>7346223
It's "original content"

[Anonymous No.7346227]

>>7346226
Sorry.

[Anonymous No.7346231]

>>7346227
It's OK. Don't beat yourself up about it.

[Anonymous No.7346238]

>>7334174
Best book ever
>I'm not being sarcastic I love this book

[Anonymous No.7346262]

>>7335343
That shit made me sad when Enkidu dies. Sad in a manly way

[Anonymous No.7346306]

>>7341570
Well this is fucking weird...
My roommate has been trying to get me to read this book since we moved in together.
>he's played every assasin's creed
>all he wears is cargo shorts or plain blue jeans
>he has a goatee and hair like that pic
>he spent over 120$ on the Deadpool Omnibuses and even the Minibus
>he frequents Reddit and 9gag constantly while whining that 4chan is a terrible site

Super eerie

[Anonymous No.7346313]

>>7346306
>goatee


If you consider anything close to a friend to this guy you should drug him with some sleeping pills and shave his sorry face.

[Anonymous No.7346314]

>>7336897
(WHAT'S THE YAMS?)

[Anonymous No.7346317]

>>7346313
consider yourself*

[Anonymous No.7346782]

>>7338658
Just like Pynchon. Go back to watch your youtube poop videos.

[Anonymous No.7346793]

>>7334734
The kafka thing has me a little baffled.

[Anonymous No.7346813]

>>7346314
THE YAMS IS THE NIGGER THAT NIGS

[Anonymous No.7346819]

>>7337506
Is this good or no?

[Anonymous No.7346908]

>>7334130

[Anonymous No.7346977]

>>7337396
This is true about most 19th century horror. Genre novels were a lot less focused back then, which I kind of like.

Some of the most memorable parts of Frankenstein and Dracula have no bearing on the overarching plot.

[Anonymous No.7347204]

Here's some OC on House of Leaves.

[Anonymous No.7347847]

>>7346908
is the sikh a reference to Through the Gates of The Silver Key?

[Anonymous No.7347905]

>>7346819
muh dreams, muh pain and muh intelligence get a bit tiring after a while. i still like it tho.

[Anonymous No.7348060]

>>7347204

[Anonymous No.7348062]

[Anonymous No.7348069]

[Anonymous No.7348360]

>>7348062
Why were you expecting gay stuff from the book? I remember reading this a few years ago, but it's supposed to be a (fictional) account of the actual burning of the temple, so I don't see how muscle men would come from that.

[Anonymous No.7348382]

>>7339545
oh yeah i remember that one. yes.

the footnotes are apropos in the depressed person because they reflect the chaotic, disorganised mind of the depressed person, and how difficult she is to deal with.

[Anonymous No.7348401]

>>7338658
That's Pynchon?

[Anonymous No.7348464]

>>7345935
The image of De Sade is so much more important than his actual writing, which unfortunately is fan fiction-tier.

[Anonymous No.7348522]

>>7348401
It's an artist's rendering of how old he potentially looks now.

I'm serious.

[Anonymous No.7348561]

>>7335343

[Anonymous No.7348590]

Going through an old EHD and found one of I made like 6 years ago

[Anonymous No.7348602]

>>7335343
You should add Joseph Joestar and Caesar Zeppeli to the last panel.

[Anonymous No.7348640]

>>7334178
I bought this book about two years ago, but it somehow ended unattended in my bookshelf. As I already finished All Quiet In The West, this is going to be my next read. Quite frustrating how sex sells sometimes...

[Anonymous No.7348643]

>>7345935
What do you think of Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom? I agree with you (and with >>7348464) on the whole, but I thought that this movie was truly great. Atrocious but great.

[Anonymous No.7348654]

>>7338012
Wut

[Anonymous No.7348681]

>>7348360
>gay stuff

Those are the arms of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Carl Weathers, and I'm pretty sure it's just supposed to signify masculine friendship like the one they had in Predator.

[Anonymous No.7348684]

>>7348643
The film is fucking trash, it's a juvenile masturbatory exercise from an admittedly otherwise very talented director.

[Anonymous No.7348685]

>>7348681
1980s action films are peak homoeroticism desu

[Anonymous No.7348711]

>>7348062
Yes, this is not man mode Mishima. Still good though.

[Anonymous No.7348743]

>>7334777
>Bob Dylan, Coen Brothers, examination of a one dollar bill and a stamp?
Jews

[Anonymous No.7348749]

>>7348743
Would be easier, if he wanted to convey the idea of Jews, to use the happy merchant meme.

[Anonymous No.7348803]

>>7338658
why wuld that mean it read like pynchon
you think he expected it to read like mao's writings?

its because you think its about mao and then its about bill gray (that his name?) who is basically thomas pynchon as a voicebox for delillos ideas

[Anonymous No.7348806]

>>7334741
You're an idiot. Have you at least read it in the original?

[Anonymous No.7348822]

>>7335740
>>7335767
This is /lit/'s level of literary criticism.

Seriously, you shouldn't bother to post this kind of stuff. It's not worthy it. It makes you look like children.

[Anonymous No.7348964]

>>7348062
Is that ulillia?

[Anonymous No.7348976]

>>7348964
now you remind me

[Anonymous No.7348981]

>>7348976
woah..... it's actually good??

[Anonymous No.7348994]

>>7334328
FISTICUFFS

[Anonymous No.7349048]

>>7348681
Well, >>7348062 had "notsogay.jpg", so I just assumed the muscle men were there to represent homosexuality.

[Anonymous No.7349059]

>>7348711
Which ones are Man Mode Mishima? I know he became muscular later in life, but that's the only Mishima text I've read so far. Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.7349063]

>>7348822
>literary criticism
>implying these posts were supposed to be actual critiques

[Anonymous No.7349113]

>>7348069
Third panel should have homoeroticism, a fire, and a pile of board games...

[Anonymous No.7350020]

>>7334130
Damn, is that true? I wanted to read it. Is Prometheus Rising good?

[Anonymous No.7350081]

>>7334130
Haha I've read that book like five times. Fukken saved. This image is a work of art

[Anonymous No.7350109]

>>7341273
The painting is a thing by Leonid Afremov a dude who makes the same painting over and over because I mean it works you know I mean I'm not complaining it's just an observation and I'm glad there are so many paintings like that because they're beautiful but at the same time it is kind of disappointing in a sense since you'd expect more greatness to come out of him than that but whatever the dude's making money from his art most people can't say that and it's not like his art is bad either like i said it's just disappointing a little i guess

[Anonymous No.7350115]

>>7349113
I was too lazy to google for wargaming pictures, tho I wish this game to exist.

When Udo compared generals to writers was the climax of the book

[Anonymous No.7350119]

>>7349059
Sun and Steel, Kyoko's House, He who fell in grace with the sea, Runaway Horses, My friend Hitler

[Anonymous No.7350131]

>>7350020
Prometheus Rising is good. It may be that everything in the book is bullshit, but, at least, is interesting bullshit.

Don't know about Illuminatus, though. After reading PR, I didn't get interested in reading Illuminatus. I'm more inclined to read Joyce than anything else. Since RAW takes more from Finnegans Wake and Ulysses than his own books.

[Anonymous No.7350135]

>>7337497
Are you fucking autistic? They explain left-libertarianism versus the American, Randian right-libertarianism which Celine believes to be not real libertarianism. Left-libertarianism is social anarchism. Did you neglect to read the appendices?

[Anonymous No.7350147]

>>7334177
How shitty is Slow Learner? Just picked it up from my uni library because I was going through his books in chronological order by publication date, so I have this to get through, then Vineland, which is apparently also shit, before I get to M&D

[Anonymous No.7350154]

>>7337261
>thinking there is actual Buddhism in any Hesse
Your What I Got should have just been Nietzsche and Jung or something

[Anonymous No.7350155]

>>7350020
that... didn't make you want to read it?

RAW's zany rambling story that feels like it was written unedited on a collection of Denny's napkins while he was stoned out of his gourd is incredibly fun, squeeze in some convincing conspiracy theorism and historical fiction and it's pretty good

there's definitely some pro-capitalist propaganda underpinning everything though. pretty sure that's robert shea. it never calls itself such and insists it's totally not left OR right wing, but it pretty much vouches for anarcho capitalism without ever having the guts to outright say it. they have one character introduce themselves off the bat as essentially an ancap and of course she's a super hot babe who fucks the left wing main character until he sees she's really hip and knows what's up after all!

[Anonymous No.7350192]

>>7335322
It was that episode about the founder of Springfield and the founder of Shelbyville founding two differents towns because the latter wanted a town where you could marry your cousin.

If I need to explain the joke further you should read one hundred years of solitude

[Anonymous No.7350296]

>>7337506
I read in original

[Anonymous No.7350306]

Used to be a thread like this would be all crap. But now most are hilarious.

>>7338533
>this is a meme thread dude, you're supposed to present the memiest parts
u go2a lrk mre

[Anonymous No.7350344]

Fresh OC.

[Anonymous No.7351194]

>>7334130

[Anonymous No.7351902]

>>7346314
The yams are THE POWERS THAT B

[Anonymous No.7351919]

>>7350154
The Buddha does make an appearance, though, and is a recurrent thought on Siddhartha's mind on his quest for enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.7352219]

>>7351194
Pretty much...