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Anonymous Thu Nov 5 15:36:23 2015 No.7325223 [Reply] [Original]

Why isn't he more memey, /lit?

>tfw Tlön, Ubqar, Orbis Tertius is the greatest short story in history
>and in "history"

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 15:40:09 2015 No.7325230 Define memey? He's memed plenty here, and everywhere else really.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 15:44:05 2015 No.7325243 What are you, blind? Menard already made that thread the other day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 15:44:06 2015 No.7325244 >>7325223 He's overrated

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 16:05:52 2015 No.7325289 >>7325223 I hate it when people say he's just a great story teller and no more. He's so much more than that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 19:24:07 2015 No.7325869 That's one of the greatest stories I've ever read and one of the literary works that really got me interested in literature for the first time

Anonymous Thu Nov 5 19:29:16 2015 No.7325877

Most critics and readers are chiefly concerned with literature concerning comedy of manners and personal drama. Someone brilliant like Borges or Cisco strolls along and they don't know what to do, so they relegate them as "genre fiction" and forget about them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 20:34:37 2015 No.7326026 >>7325877 nobody relegates Borges to "genre fiction" you twat, what are you talking about

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 20:38:15 2015 No.7326035 >>7326026 Borges is fantastical writer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 20:44:29 2015 No.7326054 he's probably the biggest philosopher of 20th century. Better than all that analytic shit and SJW like Ranciere or Deleuze

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 20:46:42 2015 No.7326060 >>7326054 >deleuze >sjw

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:05:11 2015 No.7326092 >>7326060 Anything vaguely related to Marxism is "SJW" I guess. That's why Anon thinks Borges, a free market capitalist, is the best philosopher of the 20th century.

Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:06:47 2015 No.7326096

>>7325223
>Why isn't he more memey, /lit?

because people know hes "important" and "good". then they get to read him and cant manage what the fuck to think about him.

hes not quotable unless you want to sound like an obscure smartass. people like their writers material to be witty and quotable, and relatable. thats the meme material.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:07:23 2015 No.7326099 >>7326035 >>7325877 Fantasy has been one of the most significant literary modes for thousands of years

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:08:09 2015 No.7326100 >>7325223 he is overrated but Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius is THE great short story. I love it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:09:10 2015 No.7326105 >>7326100 btw >mexican >read it in original language >brety gud

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:09:12 2015 No.7326106 >>7326100 >he is overrated lol, care to explain?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:10:41 2015 No.7326111 File: 16 KB, 620x400, jorgeluisborges183425.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7326096 >Borges >Not quotable

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:15:30 2015 No.7326127 >>7326111 >brainyquote buddy, a quote from his material. not from his trademark cheeky quips

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:17:32 2015 No.7326133 File: 125 KB, 355x267, url.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7326127 Fair enough. This one is from one his stories, don't remember which but I read it recently so it's from either Ficciones or El Aleph.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:17:39 2015 No.7326134 >>7326127 Hey, that's why Oscar Wilde's a meme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:18:08 2015 No.7326137 >>7325243 teehe

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:20:12 2015 No.7326143 >>7326133 this is self-help pop psychology tier shit, friend

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:21:41 2015 No.7326146 >>7325243 >trying in an obvious manner to look that "he knows" Hello Reddit!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:23:36 2015 No.7326151 >>7326134 Wildes a meme because he was turbo cheeky. also because he described vain shit with precise skill, plebs love vain shit.

Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:24:46 2015 No.7326154
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>>7326143
It's impossible for me to please you if you keep raising the bar like a spoiled child, Anon. Also, that's the whole point of being quotable. Also, you're judging the quote out of the context of the story, so you're as bad as whatever you are complaining about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:25:40 2015 No.7326157 >>7326133 «Cualquier destino, por largo y complicado que sea, consta en realidad de un solo momento: el momento en que el hombre sabe para siempre quién es». >translations

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:29:09 2015 No.7326168 File: 12 KB, 480x360, -lit- en una cáscara de nuez.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7326157 It's an English image board, pariente.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:45:34 2015 No.7326224 >>7326168 its a literature board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 21:51:35 2015 No.7326247 File: 198 KB, 800x340, url.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7326224 ...in English.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 22:06:06 2015 No.7326294 >>7326100 >>7325223 Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius is a candidate for the greatest thing ever written, I don't give a fuck It will be even greater when the secret society envisioned in it becomes real as a result of people having read the story.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 5 22:08:41 2015 No.7326303 if he'd wrote people as well as he did systems and worlds he'd have made it pretty far up there

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 05:46:11 2015 No.7327382 File: 38 KB, 200x250, whatisahoverhand.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7325877 What's Cisco's full name? When I google it all I get is results for that shitass tech company

Anonymous Fri Nov 6 05:50:35 2015 No.7327385
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>>7326096
>not quotable
>enchanted by its rigor, humanity forgets over and again that it is a rigor of chess masters, not of angels.

Not as memey as "God is dead", I suppose. Am I an obscure smartass now?

Anonymous Fri Nov 6 05:50:41 2015 No.7327386

>>7325223

>tfw Tlön, Ubqar, Orbis Tertius is the greatest short story in history

Intellectually interesting, emotionally barren. Not all that profound either. I was writing papers with extremely similar themes in philosophy, as a sophomore in high school.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 09:32:27 2015 No.7327870 >>7327382 >What's Cisco's full name? This the one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cisco#Bibliography

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:29:42 2015 No.7329610 >>7327386 I'll bet you were.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:33:15 2015 No.7329618 >>7326168 que significa "jacten" ?????

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:37:07 2015 No.7329629 >>7329610 The ideas put forth in Tlön, Ubqar, Orbis Tertius really aren't groundbreaking. They're presented in a palatable and interesting way, but they're not profound.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:39:14 2015 No.7329637 >>7327386 >sophomore u can say th9t again jej

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:40:11 2015 No.7329642 GLORIFIED LOVECRAFT

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:41:08 2015 No.7329644 >>7329642 No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:42:58 2015 No.7329648 >>7325289 He is a great experimentalist, story teller and philosopher- especially of the postmodern condition.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:45:07 2015 No.7329657 File: 23 KB, 620x348, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is he the poor man's Borges?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 19:55:31 2015 No.7329684 >>7326096 What the fuck is relatable or quotable for that matter in Gravity's Rainbow? HARD MODE: No rhymie whimies

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 20:00:48 2015 No.7329699 >>7326096 Your entire posts reeks of literature as a pursuit in vanity. Absolutely disgraceful anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 20:45:16 2015 No.7329815 >>7325223 I don't read translations, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 21:20:29 2015 No.7329913 >>7329618 boast

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 21:22:34 2015 No.7329920 >>7329657 No, that's Bioy Casares.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 21:26:49 2015 No.7329931 >>7325223 you thought you were real clever there, huh that story is far from his best

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 21:34:59 2015 No.7329965 >>7329699 But anon is complaining about people who enjoy literature for vain reasons...

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 21:36:27 2015 No.7329973 >>7329920 Can't Calvino be another poor man's Borges though? Like an economy class Borges?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 21:52:33 2015 No.7330023 File: 37 KB, 303x424, Cuando se eyacula con tanta vigor que todos los hombres en todos los tiempos y espacios y en todos los mundos lo sienten.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 21:55:29 2015 No.7330035 I've never read Borges before, but I'd like to start soon. Where should I begin with him?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 22:04:01 2015 No.7330053 >>7330035 pick up any short story collection that at the very least includes: >tlön ubqar orbis tertius >the library of babel >the circular ruins >the lottery in babylon ficciones is the most common one I think

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 22:15:31 2015 No.7330076 File: 38 KB, 417x363, borges21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7330053 Anon all the stories you listed ARE from Ficciones.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 22:18:00 2015 No.7330084 >>7330076 I know, but I assume they have been published in other constellations, too

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 22:32:42 2015 No.7330134 >>7330053 Thanks, will do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 22:38:23 2015 No.7330148 File: 35 KB, 680x848, 704.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7330084 >published in other constellations

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 23:41:03 2015 No.7330277 >>7329657 No, that's Umberto Eco.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 6 23:42:23 2015 No.7330281 >>7329973 Calvino is a worthwhile successor to Borges

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 00:55:50 2015 No.7330439 File: 45 KB, 400x324, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7325223 >Borges allegedly never had sex throughout his entire life Another one! Come here little guy, you're going on the wall next to Ravel and Bruckner. Don't be shy now

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 00:59:38 2015 No.7330452 >>7330439 Ravel died a virgin? You can't be serious

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 01:11:40 2015 No.7330476 >>7330452 I cant confirm it but Bruckner is a lock. There was some speculation based on a few articles an anon pieced together in a /classycool/ thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 02:19:46 2015 No.7330566 >>7329931 Fits my masturbatory mood. what are better stories by him, then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 14:37:59 2015 No.7331795 >>7330035 Be sure to buy the Collected Fictions edition, which includes all his fictions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:56:36 2015 No.7333070 Bump for Borges

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