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7322981 No.7322981 [Reply] [Original]

Okay forreal hold on, don't ban me. Is this literature? When do works go from being X to literature?

Like Romeo & Juliett obviously wasn't literature when it came out, but then eventually it did.

So
a) is this literature?
b) more generally, when does a work become literature?

inb4 massive shitstorm and we get banned. Please keep it together /lit/

>> No.7322984

>>7322981
It's /lit/ until you invade Poland, then it's /pol/.

>> No.7323086

>>7322981
You should ask when does a piece become art, and use the example of somebody's random stick figure sketch compared to the mona lisa.

The safest/least exciting answer is that it's a social consensus on what we recognise as artistic.

>> No.7323157

>>7323086

Well yeah that's the question but it's really hard to say.

>> No.7323173

>>7322981
If it's a book it's literature. this is the only objective standard to determine what literature is. anything else is the second rate opinion of a smug liberal crybaby who wants /lit/ to be his hugbox

>> No.7323285

>>7323173

Seems kinda true. Anything someone doesn't like will be deemed to not be "literature."

>> No.7323592

You seem to be implying that the greatest work of the 20th century might not be literature? Why?

>An Austrian laments over the death of his country; weeping, he grasps a pistol and fights for his brothers in Munich.

>> No.7323597

>>7322981
yes

if we can discuss much more dangerous books like the bible or the ego and it's own here then i don't see why mein kampf would be banned

>> No.7323861

Literature is any work, short or long, which is nearly exclusively composed of a written language.

>> No.7323863

It's certainly literature--but certainly shit.

>> No.7323865

>>7323285
Tell that to the people who want philosophy off of /lit/

>> No.7323867

>>7322981
Has anyone here actually read Mein Kampf?

Is it really as boring as people say?

>> No.7323879

>>7323867
chapters about ww1 and his propaganda/speech principles stand out. rest is shit. quality fluctuation betrays what he really cared about.

>> No.7323901

>>7323867
I was bored once when reading the book. If that qualifies as "boring" i don't know, but the book did change me. It would be weird if it didn't, being as it's basically the manifesto of the most important figure in recent human history.

>> No.7323934

/his/ was a fucking mistake

>> No.7323940

Mein Kampf isn't really a standard book. It was written by Rudolph Hess while Hitler was in prison and dictated his thoughts to Hess. It wasn't even edited.