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Which philosophers consider you to be most literary and therefore still allowed in this board?

Will only continental philosophy remain on /lit/?

>> No.7315058

>>7315051
none

cya nerd
>>>/his/

>> No.7315060 [DELETED] 

>>7315051
MOOOOOODDDDDDSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

>> No.7315066

>>7315051
Personally I'd consider all philosophers with written work acceptable to discuss on /lit/.
The 2 guys spamming the threads with
>muh /his/
are a bunch of faggots ruining the board.
/lit/ has been my home for a long time and restricting the conversation on things which are clearly related to literature is purely retarded.
Thats why boards die.
I don't want /lit/ to be another board in the ashes.

>> No.7315071

>>7315051
Wittgenstein

>> No.7315084

>>7315051
>Will only continental philosophy remain on /lit/?

No philosophy will remain on /lit/ as it's completely off-topic.

>> No.7315114

>>7315051
Kierkegaard
Nietzche
Camus
Sartre
Derrida

All wrote novels/poetry/fiction

>> No.7315117

>>7315084
I really sincerely hope you die. You're a net loss for us all.

>> No.7315130 [DELETED] 

>>7315117
>m-muh philosophiez, i'm so deep and intellectual like xd

back2reddit

>> No.7315152

Lucretius. he's double banned for being one of the best poets of the Roman Republic and one of the best philosophers of all time. he's still relevant in any thread about gore sex fiction though :D

>> No.7315154

Why... can't both have philosophy?

>> No.7315161

Seneca the Younger. he's treble and /pol/ banned for writing plays in an ancient language, writing philosophy, and being a senator under Nero.

>> No.7315166

>>7315066
Honestly I have no idea why philosophy can't be discussed on both boards. I mean /his/ is obviously going to be filled with thousands of teenagers who will have little philosophical knowledge outside of Kant or the Greeks. I think it would be cool to have two distinct philosophic cultures between the two boards.

Anyways, /lit/ has developed a culture of philosophic debate and quasi-study over the years. /his/ is a virgin board that lacks any culture, hell just yesterday they had several threads dedicated to creating a loli ghost mascot. Does anyone actually think that board is going to have any meaningful discussion for at-least 6 months?

Honestly this whole "board shake up" is borderline retarded. All it is going to do is leave /lit/ a hipster wasteland, and /his/ a pseudo-philosophy board. At the same time all the "intellectuals" of /lit/'s population is going to have a mass exodus off of this board and trust me they aren't going to /his/.

>> No.7315167

>>7315154
yeah lets have cat threads here whilst we're at it.

>> No.7315168

Sade. he's allowed any way because he only ever wrote porn novels about eating shit and underage rape.

>> No.7315173

>>7315166
Just keep on posting here. Wade out the shitstorm for a few days and when the >>>/his/ shitposters and stoner kids from /his/ stop posting here, then we'll be free to talk about lit and philosophy.

>> No.7315175

1. post >>>/his/

2. report thread

>> No.7315178

Wilde. he's banned for writing about socialism and individualism, aesthetics, the Greeks, and the nature of the soul in essay form.

>> No.7315179

>>7315173
no you won't as it's completely unrrelated to literature.

>> No.7315183

>>7315166
Why the fuck would teenagers know about Kant?

>> No.7315190

>>7315179
>>7315175
>>7315167
>>>/his/

>> No.7315191

Jung, but only the Red Book should be allowed because he wrote it as fiction.

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>>7315058
>>7315060
>>7315084
>>7315130
Same retard. I'm surprised you can even read.

>> No.7315199

>>7315166
>At the same time all the "intellectuals" of /lit/'s population is going to have a mass exodus off of this board and trust me they aren't going to /his/.
where are they going?

>> No.7315200

>>7315173
>>7315166
I think our best order of approach is to just keep posting and ignore all the /his/ posters.
Eventually they'll get board and leave us be.
Until then simply ignore them and enjoy the free bumps while discussing literary philosophy.

>> No.7315203

>>7315167

That's not the point at all. /lit/ will most likely engage literature with philosophical undertones on its narrative and the implications of the moral dilemmas, assumptions, etc. on the human life. /his/ will have a more political attonation and focus more on historical continuity and its concrete impact on history and society.

>> No.7315204

>>7315166
>teenagers
>having knowledge of kant
You realise how difficult kant is to understand right? Did you know that he is taught primarily in graduate school?

>> No.7315205

>>7315183
Because when I was a teenager I read Kant and enjoyed talking about him with my friends. I mean he isn't tremendously hard to understand.

Hegal on the other hand is a whole different story.

>> No.7315209

Huxley. he's banned for writing about philosophy, French history, medical history, religious history, his acid trip, Mosley and British fascism, and for lecturing in Santa Barbara on the human condition.

>> No.7315214

>>7315205
Protip: Kant's prose is harder than Hegel's which is immensely comfy. Viel Glück!

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>>7315193
your detective skills are wasted here my friend. shouldn't you be solving real crime? :^)

>> No.7315220

Aristotle. he's banned for writing Poetics in a dead language and being a philosopher while he did it.

>> No.7315224

>>7315216
Nice photoshop.

>> No.7315233

>>7315216
>thinking a 'screenshot' proves anything
how new are you

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>>7315224
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion
seek mental help anon

>> No.7315239

>>7315236
>using wikipedia as a source

>> No.7315244

There are two doors now: one that says Philosophy and one that says Literature. And instead of just knowing that people will rely on their common sense and judgment to determine where a thread goes, they're throwing a huge tantrum and protesting the existence of the doors, saying we should merge them.

If universities can have a Philosophy department that's separate from an English department, we can have a /his/ and a /lit/. It's not complicated.

>> No.7315247

Jostein Gaardner. he's banned for writing a better novel about a teenager dying of cancer than John Green could ever hope for but making the mistake of putting thought into it and making it an argument about empirical reality.

>> No.7315250

>>7315244
The door doesn't say philosophy, it says history and philosophy is not history.

>> No.7315253

>>7315244
>There are two doors now: one that says Philosophy and one that says Literature.
Wrong.

>> No.7315255

>>7315247
he's also banned for Sophie's World which is clearly philosophy trying to sneak past the censor and mathematics trying to use the Lewis Carroll defense. How can we put up with that shit?

>> No.7315256

>>7315250
This is how philosophical debates get started, when so many of them could be ended before they begin if somebody would only say, "Come on, man."

>> No.7315258

Lewis Carroll. he's banned for logic puzzles, mathematics, and debating the death penalty.

>> No.7315260

>>7315258
This is your Vietnam, isn't it?

>> No.7315261

>>7315244
You're trying to throw a bunch of people from the Literature door into the History door. Don't complain about inertia, it's only a law of the universe.

>> No.7315267

>>7315244
>protesting the existence of the doors, saying we should merge them

Philosophy has been part of /lit/'s culture for years (because it's largely part of literature in the first place).

It's like wanting to remove porn from /b/ because specific porn boards exist.

>> No.7315269

>>7315260
Gore Vidal is banned here for his political outbursts, historical novels, and philosophical tone. You'll have to speak louder if you want me to hear your nambypamby objections over the sound of napalm burning air.

>> No.7315271

>>7315261
Yes, the abbreviation is /his/, but it's a board called History & Humanities whose sticky names "philosophy" explicitly. Come on, man.

>> No.7315275

George Orwell. He's banned for writing about socialism (Which obviously belongs on >>>/pol/)

>> No.7315277

>>7315271
Yes, the sticky has "philosophy" in it but 98% of threads and posters are there for history. Step up.

>> No.7315280

Swedenborg. he's banned for being right while a religious prophet, his philosophy, influencing Kant, and writing poetry in New Latin which nobody has read since Goethe. it's fine to still discuss his influence on Stephen King, so it's no real loss.

>> No.7315283

Fyodor Dostoyevsky. He's banned for incorporating subtle existentialist themes into his fiction.

>> No.7315284

>>7315261
pHIloSophy

>> No.7315286 [DELETED] 

>>7315277
/b/ is the random board but they have the same threads every single day

you can change that son. unless you got banned for being a shitposter over there like you are over here.

>> No.7315288

>>7315260
Weathering the storm of /his/posters is becoming a crucible for me

>> No.7315289

Camus. he's banned for talking about the Algerian war, being an aburdist, and getting too close to Sartre.

>> No.7315290

>>7315271
>>7315256
>so many of them could be ended before they begin if somebody would only say, "Come on, man."
>Why have philosophical debates they involve too much questioning and fun, just shut them down if the initial premisses appear strange.

>> No.7315291

Proust. he's banned for being a Dreyfusard.

>> No.7315296

Zola. he's banned for the entirety of his work being an argument for biological degeneracy being the source of human emotions as opposed to a religious sense of soul.

>> No.7315300

>>7315296
and for writing J'accuse, of course. and being a lawyer generally. That motherfucker should >>>/his/

>> No.7315302

Wagner. he's banned for being a philosopher and his essays are influenced by Schopenhauer to a sickening extent.

>> No.7315304

Dostoevsky involved philosophical questions of God and man's nature in his works. I guess /his/ should be the only place where "crime and punishment" and "the brothers karamazov" can be discussed.

>> No.7315305

Seneca. he's banned for his plays which demonstrate the principles of stoic philosophy.

>> No.7315308

If this thread isn't deleted for being off-topic, it should be deleted for being HORRRIBBLEE.

>> No.7315310

Rumi. he's banned for being Muslim, philosophical, and political.

>> No.7315323

Omar Khayyam. he's banned for writing philosophy, writing mathematics, writing calendars, writing religious poetry, and, sin of all sins, mathematical philosophy. his persian is also kind of outdated compared to farsi.

>> No.7315324

Ian McEwan. he's banned for his novel Saturday, an exposition of millennial politics and a search for meaning in the modern world.

>> No.7315332

Lao Tzu. he's banned for writing philosophy, writing poetry in an ancient language, and his blatant anti-authoritarianism.

>> No.7315334 [DELETED] 

you are THIS mad

>> No.7315336

>>7315308
it's hilarious desu desu senpai baka desu yo

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>>7315324
>>7315323
>>7315310
>>7315304
>>7315302
>>7315296

>post yfw these fags are actually being dead serious

>> No.7315339

>>7315334
well, we don't have to unban any of them you can just >>>/his/ if you want to discuss them

>> No.7315340

Excellent slam poetry, my man.

>> No.7315344

Tale of the Gengi. obvious non-fiction, written in an ancient language, details sociological structures, ought to stay banned.

>> No.7315345

>>7315344
Actually you could get a lot of japanese classic lit banned because they're just huge diaries lol

>> No.7315348 [DELETED] 

>>7315337
>these
>fags
>plural

>> No.7315349

sei shonagon. all that bitch did was write lists in a dead language, and it's just a huge diary

>> No.7315350

>>7315051
Let's just ban everything that has any smidgen of philosophical themes.

So we can discuss only Rand's work.

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>>7315332
Chuang Tzu. he's banned for his stories which advocate a care free approach to life and an absence of striving for happiness.

>> No.7315354

>>7315351
i don't know why we ever allowed it. we can't have been that in love with butterfly.

>> No.7315359

delete /lit/ why don't we

>> No.7315360

>>7315350
Objectivism is philosophy. Its just very bad philosophy

>> No.7315365

>>7315071
Based Witty

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>>7315350
The average /lit/ poster, the day philosophers were /his/ shitposted off the board.

>> No.7315368

>>7315359
Why would we do that to be honest pham?

>> No.7315369

Luke Rheinhart. barely hidden zen philosophy, and he hid it behind a philosophy of chance, which is worse than philosophy, it's math. Banned forever.

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>>7315354
"To be truly ignorant, be content with your own knowledge." - Zhuangzi

Ironically applicable to the many "fiction only" plebs attempting to rid the board of enlightened philosophical discussion.

>> No.7315372

Anthony Burgess. banned for writing puns in dead languages, being a philologist, writing non-fiction and philosophical fiction. don't not ever mention Beethoven or his name again on this board.

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I told the mods not to delete this thread and they actually listened the absolute madmen

>> No.7315377

Tolkien. if you want to read runes, go to >>>/his/

>> No.7315382

>>7315372
You're impressively well read for somebody who's profoundly retarded.

>> No.7315387

>>7315051
Herman Hesse. He's banned for his many references to religion and eastern mysticism.

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>> No.7315397

Jack Kerouac. he's banned for using his fiction to bring Buddhist philosophy to a western audience.

>> No.7315398

>>7315382
I prefer the term /b/tarded, thanks.

>> No.7315400

>>7315382
He is both funny and astute. Thats the kind of guy we need on this board. Not an idiot /his/poster like you

>> No.7315402

>>7315395
All the authors we can no longer discuss here thanks to /his/

>> No.7315403

Hesse. he's banned for writing eastern and western philosophy.

>> No.7315406

>>7315400
>wanting pure meme posting

>> No.7315411

>>7315403
he even wrote about monte verita, he's a subversive anarchist influence.

>> No.7315417

Kafka. he's banned for his writings on Otto Gross, known Stirnerist and affiliate of Freud.

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>>7315387
>>7315403
Snap.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. He's banned for exploring the concept of free will and choice.

>> No.7315422 [DELETED] 

>>7315400
>He is both funny and astute.
>the same joke ad infinitum
technically you're the /his/ poster since you belong on /his/

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>>7315402
I would like to argue with you, but I could be banned for arguing/discussing philosophy.
So I will have to resort to using pure literature.
Read, The Man in the High Castle and/or Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

That is all I can legally say.

>> No.7315431

C S Lewis. banned for The Screwtape Letters, The Four Loves, and general religious philosophical undertones.

>> No.7315432

how are there even people who want philosophical discussion removed from /lit/? it seems to me that an interest in philosophy naturally follows from an interest in literature.

>> No.7315434

>>7315432
philosophy is not literature. it does not belong here.

>> No.7315438

Voltaire. banned for writing politcal tracts, philosophy, and jokes about Jesuits.

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>>7315422
Making a hard judgement on the basis of one poorly researched and very recent sticky post, rather than critical reasoning to assess the evidence.

>> No.7315442

Rilke. his letters to a young poet are shining examples of philosophizing trying to hide itself in another genre, he ought to be dug up and shot for his crimes against literature.

>> No.7315446 [DELETED] 

>>7315432
it attracts low effort shitposts like the one we're in

>> No.7315454 [DELETED] 

>>7315441
>wwaaahhhhh gimme back my stirner memes- I mean my "high level philosophy discussion"
>>>/his/

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>>7315432
>how are there even people who want philosophical discussion removed
They feel insecure about their own reading ability and don't want to seem challenged by more difficult material.

>> No.7315456

Rushdie. banned for his political and religious non-fiction work, and his general philosophical tone.

>> No.7315458

>>7315051
ALL ARE ALLOWED IF YOU REFER TO THEIR WORKS

>> No.7315460

Sean O'Casey. banned for his obviously politically motivated The Plough and The Stars. nothing but a work of political propaganda, there should be riots.

>> No.7315462

>>7315446
This thread is a shitpost or at least exceptionally shitposty due to the resent board turmoil and the fact that this thread has de facto become the containment/discussion thread of said turmoil.

But I mean the philosophy threads on /lit/ for the past few months haven't been terrible or altogether great. Philosophy is ingrained into /lit/ anyways, it seems like we are suck with slightly above average content on /lit/, or high school tier content on /his//

>> No.7315464 [DELETED] 

>>7315382
being legitimately autistic has it's advantages

>> No.7315467

Hunter S Thompson. banned for being non-fiction reportage, his letters on felony murder, and inventing a philosophy of journalism.

>> No.7315471 [DELETED] 

>>7315462
and rather than let the quality of /lit/ improve the high school phil posters want to drag us down with them.

>> No.7315474

Solzhenitsyn. banned for non-fiction, political inclinations, and being more a historian than a writer.

>> No.7315476

>>7315441
Isn't that Pure Ideology? Smh

>> No.7315478

Vasily Grossman. banned for writing about the eastern front and Stalingrad.

>> No.7315480

>>7315434
philosophy is heavily intertwined with literature and has been a part of the board's culture from day one.

>> No.7315482

Emmett Grogan. banned for his autobiography moving from fiction to non-fiction upon his death.

>> No.7315485

W H Auden. banned for philosophical writing on the Romantics and the 20th century condition of man and aesthetics.

>> No.7315487 [DELETED] 

keep going dude it's till funny and I don't quite get the point yet.

I'm convinced mods dictate site policy on the whims of whichever autist can hold his breath longer during his tantrum

>> No.7315491

deQuincy. banned for writing journalism, social commentary, and a philosophical treatise on murder as one of the fine arts.

>> No.7315496

Judith Kerr. banned for writing non-fiction about Hitler. you can still discuss her books about Mog, the forgetful cat :3

>> No.7315500

Charlotte Brontë. Banned for writing in the 19th century (A historical period of time).

>> No.7315506

>>7315051
I guess ones that are still alive? Chomsky, Zizek etc... I don't think any of them care to assess the literariness of any of us, nor do they have any strong feelings about us being on this board nkr the existence of 4chan in general

>> No.7315514

>>7315500
no, she's allowed. Mary Wollstonecraft is not allowed, nor is Mary Shelley or Percy Shelley, for their political writings.

>> No.7315517

H. G. Wells. Banned for socialist ideology. Also, speculatory description of time travel and its potential ramifications.

>> No.7315518

Earl of Rochester. banned for all his work relating to the Restoration court, but his sex poems without historical references are allowed.

>> No.7315520

>>7315183
>>7315204
I was studying Kant at 16.

When I started seriously writing at 18, I considered my non-fiction to be very much neo-Kantian. I revised them a bit and included them in my first book, which was published when I was 23.

It's called not being a moron who let themselves be dictated by public schools and ageist lies.

>> No.7315523

Edmund Spenser. banned for the Fairie Queene and phi.

>> No.7315525

>>7315506
>I guess ones that are still alive
Correct. Once they are no longer with us, they become part of /his/tory.

Every book adapted for screenplay also becomes banned, as discussion must be relegated to /tv/.

>> No.7315533

John Berger. banned for being an art critic, supporting the Black Panther Party, being a philosopher, general political writings, writing about Spinoza in fiction, writing about Picasso, and generally being a Marxist humanist. Fuck your Man Booker prize, John, we see right through you.

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>>7315520
Very respectable.

Pic related: A great philosophical work also written by a man of 23.

>> No.7315537

Swift. banned for his philosophical and political writings.

>> No.7315541 [DELETED] 

/lit/ has never discussed half of these fags anyway.

quit pretending /lit/ was ever good.

>> No.7315543

Lucian. banned for writing in a dead language, making every one of his characters a philosopher, it's practically fanfiction, and *AND* he clearly called one of his works a true story.

>> No.7315545

>>7315520
That is very swell my autistic friend. I think what he meant was that Kant would not be a likely candidate for a philosopher that edgy teens are versed in. You could have said Nietzsche or Chomsky or Marx but you said Kant like an autist with no comprehension of reality

>> No.7315547

>>7315541
i don't have to make you feel better about yourself

>> No.7315548

>>7315541
I wager you that every one of the authors named on this page /lit/ has discussed at least once, or mentioned in passing.

>> No.7315559

Doestoevsky. banned for taking large sections of Underground Man from a 19th C. psychology text.

>> No.7315562 [DELETED] 

>>7315548
one guy making a thread about it that gets 1 reply "yeah I read it ti's good." and the it gets ignored because everyone else is busy trying to prove/disprove god in the 1200000000 christpost of that day doesn't count

>>7315547
you already did though

>> No.7315566

>>7315562
>gets ignored because everyone else is busy trying to prove/disprove god in the 1200000000 christpost of that day doesn't count
we've banned doestoevsky for plagiarism, and tolstoy for anarchist christianity, there shouldn't be any christposting left.

>> No.7315593

Baudelaire. banned for writing critiques of Wagner and Delacroix amongst others, writing The Painter of Modern Life, writing philosophy, and general tendency to epater la bourgeoisie.

>> No.7315601

Delacroix. banned for writing art criticism, inspiring the Romantics, writing travelogues, and writing non-fiction about Chopin's writing.

>> No.7315607

>>7315601
Dude, we get it. You are just wanking yourself off about your knowledge of authors at this point

>> No.7315610

>>7315051
Ayn Rand

>> No.7315614

>>7315607
Coleridge. banned for writing philosophy on the suspension of disbelief and other crimes against fiction.

>> No.7315615

>>7315607
No I think he should keep going. Really drive the point home.

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>>7315607
I'm enjoying it. This is far more entertaining than the usual DFW shitmemes. Ironically, there's more /phil/ related threads on /lit/ now than there has been for a while. Enjoy your backlash.

>> No.7315623

Beckett. banned for writing plays that are so philosophical some of them don't even contain words.

>> No.7315637

>>7315623
continue

>> No.7315639

Flann O'Brien. banned for his newspaper column The Cruiskeen Lawn, his use of dead languages, his philosophical writing, his scientific writing, and his leaked state secrets.

>> No.7315640

RH Benson. banned for religious writing, predicting WWI, and being endorsed by the pope.

>> No.7315642

Vaclav Havel. banned for his aburdist writing, his political philosophy, and freeing Czechoslovakia from from Communism between plays.

>> No.7315652

Nabokov. banned for writing Notes on Prosody; criticism of literature; writing Speak, Memory, an obvious attempt at non-fiction autobiography; writing on the Cold War for The New Yorker; and for writings on lepidoptery. His pedophilia books we can still talk about.

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>>7315652
Fuck /his/ posters

>> No.7315660

Mayakovsky. banned for writing Talking with a Taxman about Poetry, for creating agitpop posters, for writing criticism, for political motivation, and for writing travelogues, sometimes barely disguised as poetry. He also never wrote a novel in his life.

>> No.7315667

>>7315051
It makes me sad that philosophy is being pushed off this board. I don't expect the retards on /his/ to generate any meaningful discussions on philosophy.

>> No.7315668

>>7315660
>never wrote a novel in his life
>>>/his/

>> No.7315670

Sorry, I forgot to ban Voltaire for writing about Leibniz. dig him up and ban him for Candide again.

>> No.7315674

>>7315668
no then I'd have to write details about his life not work, like him being found with this poem in his pocket when he shot himself in the gutter outside his exlover's flat

>Past one o’clock. You must have gone to bed.
>The Milky Way streams silver through the night.
>I’m in no hurry; with lightning telegrams
>I have no cause to wake or trouble you.
>And, as they say, the incident is closed.
>Love’s boat has smashed against the daily grind.
>Now you and I are quits. Why bother then
>To balance mutual sorrows, pains, and hurts.
>Behold what quiet settles on the world.
>Night wraps the sky in tribute from the stars.
>In hours like these, one rises to address
>The ages, history, and all creation.

>> No.7315693

Antonin Artaud. banned for his correspondence with his editor, for his manifesto of the theatre of the absurd, for his writing for avantgarde films, for his Mexican ethnography and peyote trip reports, for going back to the manifesto to write The Theatre and Its Double, and for the anti-American sentiment he was first banned for in real life.

>> No.7315705

Peter Brook. banned for writing The Empty Space, and using non-fictional sources as the basis of plays. Who gives a shit if he's the director of the Royal Shakespeare Company during the first English production of Marat/Sade, Marat/Sade are both still >>>/his/

>> No.7315743

Mandeville. banned because everyone knows it's not about bees.

>> No.7315752

DH Lawrence. banned for communicating with Bertrand Russell and writing his own introductions.

>> No.7315760

Requesting DFW, Pynchon and Joyce

>> No.7315786

>>7315760
no, those are staying; they have no philosophical or historical value.

>> No.7315790

>>7315786
hahahaha

>> No.7315801

>>7315199
/po/

>> No.7315810

Percy Bysshe Shelley. banned for writing Ozymandias, for influencing Karl Marx, for driving Tolstoy to anarchy, for speculating on metaphysics, for writing political tracts, for fucking Mary Shelley because she was Godwin's daughter, for his philosophy, and for being a vegetarian and annoying about it.

>> No.7315813

>>7315801
too much paper to do anything else really.

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>>7315417
>>7315417

I like this guy. Keep posting these.

>> No.7315843

Blake. banned for believing he was talking to historical and religious figures, for wearing a Phrygian cap, for illustrating Wollstonecraft, for being a Swedenborgian, for supporting the French Revolution, and for writing religious ecstasies.

>> No.7315882

Milton. banned for obvious fanfiction, religious devotion to giving the Devil the best jokes, for writing an attack on censorship before publication, for writing philosophical defenses of cults, for writing endless tracts on legalizing divorce when his wife turned into a bitch, for believing in Paradise after she left, for writing history, and for writing free verse which is never a good idea any way.

>> No.7315925

Emerson. banned for writing essays on self reliance, transcendentalism, poetry, giving lectures, for talking to utilitarians, for talking to frat houses as though they were scholars, for giving lectures to Freemasons on the Philosophy of History, for ethnography of the English, and for being recognised by Nietzsche.

>> No.7315934

>>7315925
>the Philosophy of History
the >>>/his/ of >>>/his/

>> No.7315946

Longfellow. banned for writing historical poetry, for translating political fan fiction, and for making Poe jelly.

>> No.7315960

Thomas Carlyle. banned for writing buddhist fan fiction, obvious reference to philosophers historic and contemporary and imaginary, for writing history on Schiller, for scooping Kierkegaard, for giving John Ruskin too much of an ego, for dabbling in mathematics, and for advocating fascism and slavery. he had a good work ethic for a buddhist

>> No.7315980

Lafcadio Hearn. banned for being a newpaperman, for being too immoral for the Enquirer, for writing about creole and voodoo culture, for being a weeb creepypasta writer, for writing tracts as a female slave, for changing religions more times than a Wiccan and writing books about them, and for being one of the sole Western sources on the history of Meiji era Japan.

we are, however, still allowed to discuss that one time when Blofeld quotes him in You Only Live Twice, and James calls him out on it.

>> No.7316195

Bulgakov. he's banned for writing a biography of Moliere, for barely hiding his desire to revive Goethe's metaphysics, for writing religious and atheistic arguments, for anticommunistic sentiments, for writing a history of Stalin in Bantumi, and for being a HG Wells/Mary Shelley fanfiction writer.

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>>7315179

>> No.7316214

>>7315205
>>7315214
Kant is hard to read, Hegel just doesn't make fucking sense.

>> No.7316216

>>7315244
History and Philosophy are also two differnt studies. And most of the time Philosophy gets closer to literature than History. Pretty sure we can still talk about the philosophic themes on Yukio Mishima, Herman Hesse, Bataille, Artaud or Nietzsche.

>> No.7316221

>>7316214
This reminds me.

Solomo Friedlander. totally banned for writing Kant for Kids, for making a fictional version of Oswald Spengler, for writings on Schopenhauer in his youth, for studying archaeology and history, for writing books about magic which were barely disguised Hegelianism, for writing children's stories about Fichtean dialetics, for humiliating Erich Maria Remarque, for siding with Stirner, and for self-identifying as Kant crossed with Chaplin.

>> No.7316306

I really want philosophy to be allowed on this board :( hiro my god emperor pls

>> No.7316313

Christina Rossetti. banned for discussing social problems, gender roles, salvation and other philosophical ideas in allegory, and for writing Catholic non-fiction including on Dante as though he weren't fanfiction. She is a corrupter of the youth and parents would be wise to not let their children read her goblin stories.

>> No.7316316

Why is /his/ called /his/ if it is about humanities as a whole?

>> No.7316318

>>7316316
we're not allowed talk to you about Hegel >>>/his/

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>>7316318

>> No.7316401

Sterne. banned for Tristram being nothing more than muh opinions and not even having the courtesy to use words at all times in his fiction, for writing political romance, for sermonizing, for self resurrecting after death, and for writing travelogues while diplomatically immune from being prosecuted for the sentimental abasement of readers.

>> No.7316439

Bloom. obvious non-fiction, we can still talk about his one novel.

>> No.7316470

Boccaccio. banned for writing in a dead language, religious overtones, historical depictions of both Venice and the Black Death, philosophically advocating chivalry and chastity while writing porn, writing Arthurian fanfiction, using numerology, pretending folk songs are fiction, and general plagiarism of previous philosophers' narrative conceits.

>> No.7316472

>>7316470
*Florence
fuck, i'm getting tired

>> No.7316475

>>/his/

>> No.7316477

>>7316472
u r mentally ill

>> No.7316485

>>7316477
ikr, imagine the expanse i'll give it on every fiction post on this board if someone touches one serif on my philosophers' fiction texts

>> No.7316491

Patrick Hamilton. banned for writing about gaslighting before psychologists knew it was a thing.

>> No.7316499

>>7315204
I studied Kant in high school and again in the first semester at uni. Graduate school kek

>> No.7316508

>>7315051
Philosophy is a cancer on this board

>> No.7316516

>>7316508
Galen and Hippocrates are both banned for writing in a dead language and, about cancer, medical practice, and theory. Please do not bring them up again.

>> No.7316525

Edwin Abbott Abbott. banned for writing a biography of Bacon, a philology of Shakespeare, theological non-fiction, and mathematical/geometric romance.

>> No.7316562

Takami. banned for writing alternative history, political narrative, anti-authoritarianism, stealing terms from boxing, and promoting manga.

>> No.7316568

you should be banned, on the grounds of being a ginormous weirdo

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There's a whole section of Stephen Hero dedicated to Papa Joyce's aesthetic vision.

You know, what it means, right?

>> No.7316572

>>7316568
Banning is not related to literature, >>>/qa/

>> No.7316577

>>7316571
it had bad depth perception?

>> No.7316581

>>7316571
It belongs on /his/ for the arts belong to the humanities.

>> No.7316596

Cao Xueqin. banned for writing autobiography, for claiming truth is fiction, for writing about contemporary society, for making obvious philosophical overtures and open references to daoism and zen. at least he designed modern Chinese for us, otherwise we'd need to ban him with the rest of the classics for writing in a pointless language.

>> No.7316611

>>7316581
>arts belong to the humanities.
I bet that the wonderful art critique we had had here is going to be much more rare there if it'll be had at all. And if you believe it didn't exist, search the archives. It was there, and it was beautiful.

>> No.7316631

DFW banned on the grounds that New Sincerity sounds suspiciously like a philosophy of life, and worse, influenced by Buddhist ideas

Joyce, banned for setting his novels in the socio-cultural milieu of early 20th century Dublin, and that one line about history being a nightmare. Sounds like >>>his author to me

>> No.7316634

>>7316611
And it was off topic and shitposting.

You people saying >it's not philosophy board it's history board are blatantly ignoring the & Humanities portion, and you're doing it on purpose. The sticky even designates that board as the board for philosophy, clearly. Your only argument is
>waaah i don't like that board, it's not le gud :(
Maybe if you whiny retards made more threads about philosophy on your containment board instead of whining about not having any good threads on your containment board, you'd actually idk have threads on your containment board??

>> No.7316638

>>7316631
>mfw DFW, Pynchon and Joyce memers now want to be included
>mfw my face shows no mercy
Sorry, you get to say you're thoroughly unbanned on /lit/
It's all the rest of canon is the problem.

>> No.7316653

Hilton. banned for writing Jesuit fanfiction, buddhist and feminist inclinations, and inventing ShangriLa

>> No.7316662

Calvino. banned for writing ethnography, for using tarot cards instead of words, and for breaking the fourth wall. He's more >>>/x/ than /his/

>> No.7316668

>>7316634
Fuck you, fuck Hiro, and fuck the mods.

>> No.7316672

>>7316634
The problem is that you give a single fuck about the opinions of the moderators when they are clearly completely incompetent. But you're probably happy you don't have to read any more boring stupid philosophy and can post DFW memes in peace now.

>> No.7316674

Borges. banned for biblical and mythological references, for philosophizing, for his conundrum which claims writers write their own prehistory and therefore history, for writing on randomness, time, and historical events, and for sharing his prizes with Beckett.

>> No.7316678

>>7316672
This is the problem: /phil/ posters insist that if it's not philosophy, then it's shit; they are out of touch and downright contemptuous of what the board's primarily about, which is literary art.

>> No.7316681

>>7316678
DFW is shit though. He has no discernible talent. This guy called Bloom from /his/ told us so.

>> No.7316683

>>7316678
The board is about literature. Philosophy is literature.

>> No.7316695

Dylan Thomas. banned for writing his autobiography as a dog, for never writing a novel, for writing philosophy and poems about donkeys to a ridiculous extent, for contemplating the morals and methods of poisoning your husband, for writing literary critique, and for raging against death.

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I was banned the other day for posting a thread about Emerson and Heidegger. Another one of my threads was just deleted. The moderators on this board are in over their heads and unworthy of their power. If you want a true commander of /lit/, someone who will kick in the door so that the whole rotten edifice will come tumbling down, rise up and force Mr. Hiroyuki Nishimura to place the crown upon my head and together we will usher in a golden age of literary discussion.

>> No.7316727

>>7316724
no, twigs, just no.

>> No.7316728

>>7316724
I'd vote for you twiggy

>> No.7316733

>>7316724
hahahahahahahha no

>> No.7316734

>>7316724
how do you even contact emperor hirohito

>> No.7316736

>>7316734
He pops into threads at random. It's rather annoying.

>> No.7316743

>>7315114
Wittgenstein was pretty much a linguist, surely he's allowed too?
mods pls

>> No.7316763

>>7316743
we had to ban Tolkien and Burgess for being philologists, i dunno if we're allowed linguists =/

>> No.7316868

Hemmingway's nonfiction for writing about his vacations abroad all the time.

>> No.7316894

>>7315534

I remember, when I was in my late teens, I had finally worked my way into the bedroom of a schoolmate I had a crush on since my pre-teen years. He was a brown skinned, confident athlete with an air of cool and an incredible body that I couldn’t wait to discover. Everything was going swimmingly in our newfound courtship, until I unzipped his pants for the first time. After a fair amount of eager fumbling and foolish adolescent foreplay, I took off his pants, only to find attached this tiny, almost inconceivably small resemblance of a raisin - a miniscule currant from the most malnourished Saxifragaceae bush. I had taken my previous boyfriend from flaccid to firm before, so it wasn’t the mere fact that my beau nouveau wasn’t yet erect that was disappointing. It was the brutal reality that there wasn’t even enough flesh to be noticeable when fully hard. At his most erect point, he couldn’t possibly have been more than a baby thumb length's long or wide. That was one of the most disappointing days of my life. The second most disappointing day was when I actually wasted a whole two hours reading Otto Weininger’s “Sex And Character”. To avoid posttraumatic depression, I have to try hard not to think about those valuable minutes of my life that I will never be able to replace.

>> No.7316905

>>7316678
This faggots again? Lay off it dude, no one's questioning your precious literary taste, we just want to discuss philosophical themes by people who didn't feel like dressing them up in a narrative. Are you this autistic that you can't understand why someone would rash on you for wanting a philosophy-free board when there's just as much. memeing with bona fide literature threads?

Christ almighty this nigga really thinks the group of posters trying to discuss shit like aesthetics and ethics are dismissive of true art. Give me a break

>> No.7316910

Doesn't all fiction have a semblance of reality within it?

As such they should go on /his/.

>> No.7316913

>>7316910
it's a plot to get us to only read Tao Lin, because even though he just ripped off gmail conversations, he happened in the past 25 years.

>> No.7316974 [DELETED] 

>>7315051
>>>/his/
saged
Hidden
3...2...1

We don't give a fuck about who is most "literary" once it's about a book you can discuss it, if it's not FUG OFF. /lit/ is not the "thoughts" board go to humanities for that.

>> No.7317001

Can we get one on Shakespeare?

>> No.7317007

>>7316316
>Why is random called /b/ if the letter b isn't in random at all?
>Why is pokemon called /vp/ if the letter v isn't in pokemon at all?
>sage

All of you cunts need to fug off.

>> No.7317598

>>7317001
It'd prob be pretty hard to separate all the historical and political works out. Most of them are based on real or mythical kings and queens, so it's >>>/his/

>> No.7317621

>>7317598
>historical


>>>/his

>> No.7317629

>>7316221
>writing books about magic which were barely disguised Hegelianism
Not surprised. Magic and Hegelianism are the same magnitude on the Bullshiter scale.

>> No.7317642

>>7316724
I kind of dislike you, but I support your cause.

>> No.7317673

>>7316894
what a proper use of memery friend

>> No.7318242

Based Hiroyuki has brought back canon! No more Vietnam! Praise our heavenly sovereign!

>> No.7318499

>>7315520
but isnt 23 standard for most publishings? just write a masters thesis that isnt retarded and itll probably get published

>> No.7318621

>>7315667
just ignore it til it goes away

>> No.7318893

I don't care about the rules, there is simply no way I'm going to try to talk about philosophy with those people:

>>>/his/98136

>> No.7319067

>>7318893
read the fucking sticky :D

>> No.7319154

>>7319067
>read the fucking sticky :D
read the fucking sticky :D

>> No.7319182

>>7319154
XD we won, quote kierkegaard at will

>> No.7319194

>>7319182
"The tyrant dies and his rule is over, the martyr dies and his rule begins." - Me

>> No.7319252

>>7319194
Hi, Alex. How does it feel to be dead?

>> No.7320424

>>7318893
that thread actually makes me happy because yet so many people in it are so mind twistingly dumb, they're on /his/, not /lit/. feels nice.

>> No.7320429

>>7315066
>long time
A few weeks is not a "long time".

>> No.7320434

>>7315114
Derrida didn't.

>> No.7320437

>>7320429
upvoted

>> No.7320475

>>7319182
You didn't win, if its about a book you can stay.

If it's abstract shit like "what if", you will bet saged, reported and banned.

>> No.7320533

>>7320475
>You didn't win, if its about a book you can stay.
Which is exactly what we were fighting for so we didn't have to deal with idiots telling us to go to >>>/his/ for discussing philosophy books, religious writings, or non-fiction books.

>> No.7320781

>>7320533
We have no problem when you guys dicuss on topic shit, but most of you don't, we are not here for your wondering thoughts.

>> No.7320829

>>7320781
m8, your post isn't worth a bump, it contains no books. i know you're not planning an endorsement of the thread by doing so, so i conclude you're new. either that or very fucking lazy about board quality.

your "we" and "your" shit is therefore mixed up- it's also often a common linguistic tell that someone is alone and/or female to use the royal "we" to try to display support which is not present. just sayin

i think you'll find that while you might want to claim you do not have a problem with on topic shit - which patently isn't the case since you bumped the thread with your self-defensive shit to revive it from page five where i left it - there certainly were people claiming that /lit/ is solely for novels, and that all the things i just described here >>7320533 should go to >>>/his/

your "us" and "them" mentality isn't good for the board. and it's transparent. you make this kind of post because you have nothing else to post. not even tidbits about how to write a weakling or a woman trying to be offensive while aware of their concealed inadequacy. no need to save rave this thread, it was a means to an adequate end, not some glory for the board.

>> No.7322066

>>7315183
I was taught kant in high school. Get rich parents, idiot

>> No.7322934

>>7315786
lol

>> No.7322940

>>7315183
Because they didn't drop out of school, unlike you, apparently...