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>Foucault was the greatest philosopher to ever live

>> No.7308124

Whom are you quoting?

>> No.7308126
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7308126

postin in a Foucalt thread

>> No.7308128

>bugchasing pedophile

>> No.7308145

I'll take Derrida, Lacan even Deleuze over him all day

>> No.7308150

Great, now can you delete this thread and go to the philosophy board /his/ please

thank you

>> No.7308152

Foucault was a social critic, not a philosopher, and people only think he's good because for some reason every single university student starts with him. His is the most name-dropped name I've ever encountered, and it's horrifying because there's nothing substantial about his work in the first place.

>> No.7308163

>>7308152
I will begrudgingly admit that some of his stuff is kind of neat but I am of the camp that he's basically just a convenient reformulation of existing shit needlessly smeared with Parisian obscurantism.

It's weird because I think his only interesting applications are in history but then he's also at his most incompetent and lazy as an historian.

He definitely is an obnoxious thing that university students like to tout though. Like 99.5% of mentions of Foucault are the equivalent of people who have never actually read Nietzsche saying "it's, like, master morality or something."

>> No.7308177

>>7308152
>there's nothing substantial about his work in the first place.

This is why he is a great philosopher. Foucault demonstrates the inevitable superficiality of all theorising.

>> No.7308208

He regularly used the fallacy of incredulity to dismiss anything he didn't want to hear. He had no concept of philosophy.

>> No.7308210

Chomsky liked him okay, and Chomsky hates crit theory.

>> No.7308214

>>7308152
How are works like Madness and Civilization, and The History of Sexuality, and Discipline and Punish, not substantial? Foucault did for mental illness, sexuality and punishment/rehabilitation what Nietzsche did for morality.

>> No.7308226
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>>7308163
>>7308177
>>7308210
>>7308214
I wonder if you guys have read his work, and how much of it.

Have you ever read his work where he tries to deal with anything Greek?

He literally doesnt understand Greek. He will inconsistently describe what the Greek "self" meant when discussing what "caring for thyself" is.

He is just wrong on a basic level. If you tried to write a paper on this you couldnt, because he never says the same thing twice on the matter, and if you look up the actual Greek sources (Aristotle) he is just wrong.

>> No.7308230

>>7308214
His scholarship is often just actually fucking bad, like >>7308226 says. Even the people who like him use his "general ideas" while ignoring his shitty standard of scholarship.

>> No.7308237

opie here, I'm surprised at how little shit has been thrown at my blatant shitpost. Thanks for the references.

>> No.7308240

>>7308226
None of the works I've mentioned references the Greeks, except the History of Sexuality, but I've only read the first volume of that.

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>>7308226
>I wonder if you guys have read his work, and how much of it.

It doesn't matter.

Foucault, along with other post structuralists and also Zizek, have demonstrated that being a good philosophy in the modern age depends not upon whether your facts are accurate or your ideas are good, but on how well you can pose for the cameras. Derrida, Baudrillard have foreseen that in the future everyone will be too lazy to read anything other than wikipedia pages and therefore they will forever be considered better philosophers than, say, Charles Sanders Peirce because they make for danker memes.

>> No.7309955

>>7308226
can you explain this better? which work are you quoting?

>> No.7309959

/his/
/his/
/his/

sage and reported

>> No.7309964

>>7308122
>implying

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>>7308122

>> No.7309981

TL;DR me on Fucults "everything is political" meme.

Seems bullshit to me, and its implementation by so many ideologues to push their view even over facts and shit is very annoying; but i dont want to guilt by association the guy.

>> No.7310007

>>7309959
Fuck off

>> No.7310009

>>7309959
Fuck sake, now we have snakeboy promoting his sexist home board on half of all /lit/ threads.

>> No.7310044

>>7308122
Pedophilia is morally untenable

>> No.7311248

You have this thread and this thread only, to apologize for shitting up /lit/ with your philosophy bullshit. We will likely never forgive you for your masturbatory intellectual retardation, but at least you can beg for mercy from the ban hammer, which will be dropping squarely on your testicles starting Monday.

Your new containment board is called : /his/

Learn it. Love it. Leave here and go to it.

At last.

>PRAISE m00k

>> No.7312268

>>7308152
he dishonestly cherry-picked from various uncertain historical readings to construct a viewpoint that flattered his own sociopathic, bugchasing lifestyle, hoping (or knowing) that many of the passive, weak-willed followers in the Marxist/poststructuralist/radical/feminist-sympathetic academic scene, the types of weak suckers he himself enjoyed dominating and torturing, would fall for his bluff.

>> No.7312302

>>7308145
I do not understand why the anti pomo crowd groups all pomo philosophers together. Like between those three the only one even similar to Foucault is Deleuze.

>> No.7312307

>>7311248
fuck off senpai god

>> No.7312310

>>7308122
>>7312307
Back to your board, /his/panics

>> No.7312358

>>7308540
>being a good philosophy in the modern age depends not upon whether your facts are accurate or your ideas are good, but on how well you can pose for the cameras

So just like the Greeks then ? They had the theater instead, but same thing.

>> No.7312360

>>7308122
>>>/his/

>> No.7312367

>>7312360
fuck off

>> No.7312369

>>7308122
>>>/his/

>> No.7312373

>>7312369
>>7312360
>>7312310
samefag

>> No.7312375

>>7308145
>>7312302
Derrida is a hack, Lacan a charlatan and Foucault is a sociologist. Deleuze is the only serious philosopher for consideration here.

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>>7309959
>>7311248
>>7312360
>>7312369
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.


I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little >>>/his/ thread up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the >>>/his/
. The "epic" >>>/his/, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about a >>>/his/ Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic >>>/his/
NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is ">>>/his/" You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

>> No.7312379

>>7308163
>"it's, like, master morality or something."
hearty kek

>> No.7312383

>>7312377
cool down and take a vacation

may i suggest lovely >>>/his/

>> No.7312387

>>7312377
nice use of pasta, could use some work
>>7312383
>>>/c/

>> No.7312389

>>7312387
those lame series of shots in the dark were copypasta? lol, he thought it was so badass he saved it.

>> No.7312393

>>7312389
...what? That's probably one of the most common pastas on this entire site. Where are you from?

>> No.7312397

>>7312393
here for 2 yrs and /v/ recently, never seen it (shrug)

>> No.7312406

i'd bang him

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>>7312373
Try again.

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>>7312377
french have the biggest penises of all

>> No.7312460

>>7308226

>Implying you have to base any of your writing on anything that has been said by the Greeks.

>> No.7312464

>>7308214
'
Cause his methodology is rigged. Applying case studies to universal rules have never worked out for the good. Nevertheless, there is still an interesting line of thought in his over-complicated thinking.

>> No.7312499

>>7308226

>to deal with anything Greek

Who gives a fuck.

Stop having a hard on for pederasts who said semi-profound shit every now and then.

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I take issue with Foucault's stuff on the modern state being "super duper" successful at disciplining its units ( citizens ), leading to a self-disciplinary citizenry.

To be quite honest with you senpai, that seems to have been achieved even more successfully in Asia than in Europe, for thousands of years. So Freud should have looked beyond Anatolia, like most westerners should, for a change.

Caucasians ( I count sandniggers among them ) can achieve greatness for 200 years ( and some civil wars and strife inbetween ), before collapsing into oblivion, and only to be remembered by the ones that follow that decide to not let everything rot away.

>> No.7312515

was he really a bug chaser? Proof?

>> No.7312545
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>>7312416
science is truth

>> No.7312548

>>7312545

Modern science confirmed for keks.

>> No.7312567

i like foufou, but he's kind of a historical revisionist. like he establishes his points/opinions and then either finds, or shapes data from the past to support his argument rather than the other way around.

>> No.7312575
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DUDE

POZZ MY NEGHOLE LMAO

>> No.7312588

>>7312575

>he literally had a criminal boyfriend

Typical Chad cum guzzling faggot.

>> No.7312794

>>7312358
Style precedes philosophy

>> No.7312799

daily reminder that if you are bald you can never qualify as a philosopher

>> No.7312815

>>7312375
How should I start with Deleuze?

>> No.7312819

>>7312815
Start with the nail clippers

>> No.7312840

>>7308122
>>>/his/

>> No.7312882

>>7312815

Difference and repetition

>> No.7313006

>>7312840
fuck off, history is shit already, we should had kept philosophy on /lit/

>> No.7313141

>>7308122
it was Hegel
/thread

>> No.7313164

>>7313006
>>>/his/
>Saged
>3..2..1

>> No.7313189

>>7312545
So what that is telling me is, that I should sneak attack my girl when she isn't looking(rape), to get the tightest vagina possible?(might even be able to enter her cervix)