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[Anonymous No.7289266]

Why aren't there any contemporary right-wing philosophers like Zizek?

[Anonymous No.7289270]

Zizek will be right wing in 5 years

[Anonymous No.7289302]

>>7289270
If the average lefite understood what Zizek was saying they would probably call him a right wing bigot

[Anonymous No.7289326]

i tihnk he is famouse by his eccentric personality.

[Anonymous No.7289338]

>>7289326
well fashioned

[Anonymous No.7289340]

who's the Zizek of the left?

[Anonymous No.7289342]

I spend a large part of my time listening to zizek saying nigger and chuckling to myself.

[Anonymous No.7289347]

>>7289302
this

zizek is a traditional christian

[Anonymous No.7289359]

>>7289302
>I found there, on the central square (Václavské náměstí), a café that miraculously worked through this emergency. I remember they had wonderful strawberry cakes, and I was sitting there eating strawberry cakes and watching Russian tanks against demonstrators. It was perfect.

[Anonymous No.7289362]

>>7289266
a conservative zizek would be someone who deals mostly with leftist ideas but reverses them into far right ideas, defends fascism and figures like hitler in a tongue in cheek manner, acknowledging them as historical failures, but proposing a new, updated fascism, and (this is crucial) plays with the distinctions between high and low culture.

the joke of zizek is that he injects high abstract theory into low culture, proving its relevancy. but perhaps the conservative (anti-abstraction) version would instead inject low culture into high abstract theory, proving its banality.

[Anonymous No.7289363]

>>7289359
*CLASSIC* Mr. Snuffleupagus. Just classic.

[Anonymous No.7289368]

>>7289359
>you will never chill in a cafe with big Z while civil unrest and violence erupts around, calmly eating strawberry cakes and coffee whilst discussing the ideology at play.

feels like i've been sublated

[Anonymous No.7289376]

>>7289362
>a conservative zizek would be someone who deals mostly with leftist ideas but reverses them into far right ideas, defends fascism and figures like hitler in a tongue in cheek manner, acknowledging them as historical failures, but proposing a new, updated fascism, and (this is crucial) plays with the distinctions between high and low culture.
literally Nick Land

[Anonymous No.7289377]

>>7289266

the ironic meme pages on facebook are the right-wing Zizek

[Anonymous No.7289447]

>>7289368
>feels like i've been sublated
how so?

[Anonymous No.7289478]

There's lots of capitalist trash that parade as right-wing if you want that. If you want actual right-wing philosophers get into Dugin, Benoist, Scruton or any of the communitarians who are the analytic conservative schoo(Taylor, Macyntire and Bell).

True right-wing thought will come from the East, as Zizek and Heidegger have said.

[Anonymous No.7289587]

>>7289478
but Europe is undergoing a right wing renaissance right now
UK, Switzerland and Poland have all had overwhelming victories for the right
you could argue it was spurred by the East if you catch my drift

[Anonymous No.7289600]

>>7289478
>True right-wing thought will come from the East
could you elaborate on this or point me to some texts

[Anonymous No.7289781]

Because the current environment of academia, which is where philosophy thrives, is dominated by Marxist to Social Democratic ideologies and values and any who divert from this are cast out as Heretics.

[Anonymous No.7290164]

Nick Land

[Anonymous No.7290345]

>>7289266
Stefan Molyneux could be considered right wing on some social issues, he's an atheist and an anarchist so instead of using law or religion to preach against degeneracy and hedonism and sexual promiscuity he uses reason and historical evidence about what happens to societies and childhood psychology and all that, also for all you lefties on here he has good arguments against the economic and philosophical implications of leftism

[Anonymous No.7290355]

>>7290345
this thread is about philosophers

[Anonymous No.7290360]

>>7290345
this thread is about people who could possibly be considered intellectual

[http://www.fdrliberated.com/st(...) No.7290378]

>>7290345
this thread is about people who weren't BTFO by philosophy grad students

[Anonymous No.7290393]

>>7290355
Stefan Molyneux's occupation is hosting his podcast/YouTube show in which he self describes as being the biggest philosophy show, he talks about all topics from relationships to psychology to economics to drug addiction to economics to politics, what else would you refer to him as?

[Anonymous No.7290399]

>>7290378
>>7290360
>>7290355
He asked about right wing philosophers, I provided a name and explained why I feel he is
ITT: Why are leftists such douchebags?

[Anonymous No.7290402]

>>7290393
None of the topics you mentioned are philosophical per se though

[Anonymous No.7290406]

>>7290399
>He asked about right wing philosophers
It's an insult to philosophy to call Molyneux a philosopher

Try Nietzsche. Also Zizek is much further right than most think, OP thinks that because he's socialist he must be left-wing, which is the most retarded conflation ever made.

[Anonymous No.7290409]

>>7290393
i call him somebody without PhD

[Anonymous No.7290410]

>>7290402
He's an objectivist/empiricism and applies that philosophy to a variety of topics

[Anonymous No.7290414]

>>7290393
>Stefan Molyneux's occupation is hosting his podcast/YouTube show in which he self describes as being the biggest philosophy show, he talks about all topics from relationships to psychology to economics to drug addiction to economics to politics, what else would you refer to him as?
He fits perfectly the description of a sophist.

He couldn't hack academia and preys on weak minds.

He's a philosopher like Sam Harris is a philosopher, in other words, he's an idiot, his books are worthless and nobody serious in philosophy considers him seriously.

[Anonymous No.7290418]

>>7290410
>objectivist
Ayn Rand is not taken seriously by any philosophers.

>empiricism
He couldn't even attempt to grapple with great minds like Locke or Hume.

[Anonymous No.7290424]

>>7290418
Look I don't agree with everything he says and I don't take Universally Preferable Behavior as seriously but I definitely think he has great capacity to perform in intellectual conversations and debates, have you ever even watched his videos or have you just listened to snippets of him when he sounds a bit extra ridiculous or silly?

[Anonymous No.7290426]

People look to philosophers to reveal truths about life. If you believe truth is common sense and pre-established, who needs a philosopher?

[Anonymous No.7290428]

>>7290399
insulting opposition is trademark leftist inellectual behavior, this has been true at least since Marx, but probably extends further back

[Anonymous No.7290438]

>>7289447
sorry, I meant cucked.

[Anonymous No.7290460]

I'm not well versed in it, but Anarcho Capitalist stuff could be thought of as a "right wing zizek". I've got a friend who really likes Tom Woods. I listened to his "4 things the state is not", he's got a kind of joking tone similar to zizek.

Also, John Stossel of 20/20 fame (now with Fox News, sadly), now on Fox News, has a kind of "lifting the veil" technique, but does it with a Libertarian emphasis.

[Anonymous No.7290462]

>>7290410
STEMfags are empiricist too and that doesn't make them smart

[Anonymous No.7290465]

>>7290428
such an exclusive rare trademark you found there.

[Anonymous No.7290466]

>>7290424
>have you ever even watched his videos
I've watched probably 10-20 and took him very seriously for a few months. Then I went through a revelation.

>>7290428
Kekkin' hard at this.

Hegel, possibly the most important right-wing thinker of the past 300 years, was a condescending person I can remember

[Anonymous No.7290488]

>>7290428
I can't tell if you're on my side or not because they insulted him with names and didn't actually present an argument about anything he particularly has said or believes in anrgumentnything also everyone belittled me for attempting to answer OP's question by bringing up Stefan, I recoiled back by calling them douchebags because they actually acted like it initially

[Anonymous No.7290498]

>>7289266
There are, they just aren't publicized like the sniffler is.
Zizek himself particularly wants to gulag Sloterdijk.

[Anonymous No.7290504]

>>7290488
Well, according to UPB, which is a very shitty hack version of Kant, then we should universalize our moral principles. Since Molyneux is a baby who bans people from his forums and encourages his trolls to mock them for even being related to things he doesn't like, I figured it's only honoring his moral system to do the same to him

[Anonymous No.7290528]

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/

[Anonymous No.7290536]

>>7289600
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singaporean_communitarianism

There also neo-confucianism and various other types of neo-asian traditionalism(hindu extremism). Zizek mentions this in almost all his books. The communist project might be undermined exactly because of this right-hegelian asian Ideology that shows how to actually do capitalism with a human face(of which social-democrats and SJWs only fail at).

[Anonymous No.7290642]

>>7290528
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/05/cyberbll.html

This was a fantastic read, I always forget about TLP and then some good anon reminds me of it

[Anonymous No.7290654]

>>7290504
I'm not even a big fan of UPB, all I did here was justify why he could fit OP'S criteria, I didn't call them doucbebeags for being leftists, I called them doucbebeags because they literally acted like it and I called them out on it, they just insulted him and his ideology by calling him names and trying to degrade him without actually presenting an argument against him, just irrationally appeals to feelings by calling him/objectivism silly without saying why

[Anonymous No.7290685]

>>7290654
>just irrationally appeals to feelings by calling him/objectivism silly without saying why
All conversation is an irrational appeal to feelings, you just like to pretend that there's some metaphysical weight on conversation that doesn't go how you want it to.

[Anonymous No.7290746]

There are contemporary right wing philosophers. What would being "like Zizek" mean?

[Anonymous No.7290787]

>>7290654
I love being a doucbebag

[Anonymous No.7290873]

>>7289359

[Anonymous No.7290983]

>>7290685
Of course all conversations are, but in these circumstances a supposed intellectual/philosopher was being criticized on his ideals without any actual argument or reasoning as to why, just name calling lol

[Anonymous No.7290993]

>>7290983
>name calling is an invalid method of argumentation

kek, so much pure ideology here m8

[Anonymous No.7291013]

>>7290993
So whoever comes up with the most insults against the opponent and his ideology wins independent of actual critiques on the ideology itself? Pls stop the trolling, this board is for those over the age of 18

[Anonymous No.7291055]

Peter Sloterdijk is a great right-wing philosopher.

I was actually taken aback when I first read his works. But in his elaborate and thick style of writing, the continuity of real German thought lives on.

I highly recommend his works.

[Anonymous No.7291179]

>>7291055
i only know who this is because zizek recommended him

[Anonymous No.7291223]

Moldbug is fun if you don't mind reading 10 paragraphs for something that takes 1 sentence to express.

[Anonymous No.7291226]

>>7291220
Come at me brah

[Anonymous No.7291229]

>>7291055
>>7291179
*SNIFFLING INTENSIFIES*

[Anonymous No.7291308]

>>7291013
The intellectual rabble is full force today.

[Anonymous No.7291838]

>>7290746
having a funny accent and being a meme

[Anonymous No.7291854]

>>7290746
Some combination of a neo-Hegelian, psychoanalytic, critical theory, etc. bent, with perhaps insights into micro-socioeconomic interactions. And Scruton is certainly not it.

[Anonymous No.7291968]

>>7289266
Because anyone that has a handle on the socio/ psychoanalytics that Zizek does, you realize that child labor, corporation funded civil war in third-world countries, and widespread poverty are necessary evils of capitalism.

Then you unapologetically make large sums of money and stay out of the public eye.

[Anonymous No.7292197]

>>7289359
He has a child

[Anonymous No.7292239]

we already answered this and it's Nick Land
without the popularity and meme speak though

[Anonymous No.7293064]

>zizek
>right-wing
Mate.

[Anonymous No.7293308]

>>7291968
sounds clever, but nope. you can be an idiot fucktard and do that bb.

[ΟΥΤΙΣ No.7293365]

>>7291854
Scruton is a neo-Hegelian, although his aesthetics are more informed by Kant.

Psychoanalysis and critical theory aren't really conducive to right-wing thought. The psychoanalytic perspective puts sex at the root of too much to be congruent with the right, and critical theory has some of the same criticisms as the right, but it still clashes with it.

[Anonymous No.7294112]

Alexandr Dugin? Alain de Benoist?

[Anonymous No.7294688]

>How NRx thinks is a critical index of what it is.

>Outside in is probably ‘postrationalist’. What it certainly is, however, is disintegrationist. It translates the caution against rationalist hubris — dubbed reservationism by Moldbug (in the link provided) — as a general antipathy to global solutions (and their attendant universalist ideologies). To be promoted, in the place of any Great Answer, is computational fragmentation. Whenever the research program meets an obstacle, divide it. “When you come to a fork in the road, take it.” Or at least, since selection is inescapable, defend the fork (as such) first, and the chosen path only secondarily.

>Delegate selection to Gnon. To do so not only husbands resources, but also maximizes overall experimentation. Intelligence is scarce. It is needed, above all, for tinkering well. Global conceptual policing is an exhausting waste, and an unnecessary one, since territorial distribution, or some effective proxy, can carry it for free. Security capacity is needed to fend off those determined to share their mistakes. Using it, instead, to impose any measure — whatsoever — of global conformity is a pointless extravagance, and a diversion.

>Whether articulated as epistemology, or as meta-politics, NRx is aligned with the declaration: There is no need for us to agree. Refuse all dialectics. It is not reconciliation that is needed, but definitive division. (Connect, but disintegrate.)

>Think in patches. Eventually, some of them will work.