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Assuming I wanted to just fuck up my entire life as badly as possible what philosopher should I read?

>> No.7256675

>>7256663
>I wanted to just fuck up my entire life as badly as possible
read YA books

>> No.7256677

Schopenhauer.

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>> No.7256681

>>7256663
Neechy, Schoppy, Stirner, Marx, etc.

Take your pic. Almost any philosophy will fuck your shit up if you're the kind of idiot who just blindly follows it.

>> No.7256682

>>7256677
This and Bethooven too

>> No.7256688

>>7256681
>Almost any philosophy will fuck your shit up if you're the kind of idiot who just blindly follows it.

Basically this yeah

>> No.7256690

Aquinas

>> No.7256697

>>7256681
Implying anyone can understand more than 15% of shit they wrote. Bunch of spooks. That philo-drivel can now be generated with AI and would make more sense.

>> No.7256730 [DELETED] 

zizek. snort coke, i hear it helps zizek.

>> No.7256738

>>7256663
Derrida

>> No.7256745

>>7256690
Furthest from actual answer right here

>> No.7256748

Does Ayn Rand count?

>> No.7256754

Aquinas, Augustine, Boethius, Luther

>> No.7256756

>>7256663
PKD tbh

>> No.7256759

Sartre

>> No.7256761

Schopenhauer.
If you really want to fuck it up stop right before you get to the saint stuff.

>> No.7256772

Fuck that nonsense OP. Read all the philosophy, ALL OF IT.

You'll either fuck your shit up or ascend to a higher plane.

>> No.7256851

>>7256748
I'm pretty sure this could actually get you far in life kek, assuming you live in a more capitalist nation

>> No.7256869

>>7256759
Why Sartre?

>> No.7256873

>>7256738
Jej. This.

>> No.7256876

>>7256851
>assuming you live in a more capitalist nation
so, pretty much anywhere except north korea?

>> No.7257013

Cioran, Zapffe, Ligotti

>> No.7257029

You don't even really need a specific person OP. If you really wanna fuck your life up spin a bottle and whatever philosophical idea it lands on, follow it. You'll do tons of damage.

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Perfect.

>> No.7257038

>>7256851
She ended up on welfare herself so no, it won't get you shit.

>> No.7257043

>>7257038
She was clearly not compatible with her own philosophy, kust like Nietzsche and his Ubermensch

>> No.7257096

>>7257013

Isn't it amazing that Cioran didn't off himself?

>> No.7257102

>>7256663
Hegel. You will never be cured from the ensuing schizophrenia.

>> No.7257119

Berkeley, then someone like J L Mackie who spends a lot of time arguing very convincingly against theism

>> No.7257130

>>7257038
As far as she was concerned they took her money so she took it back.

>> No.7257131

>>7256663
My Twisted World, by Elliot Rodger.

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Camus really

>> No.7257140

>>7257038
I'm not a fan of the Rand, but she wasn't on welfare but on social security. The difference is that she had been paying social security taxes her whole life and therefore could justify accepting since she was just getting her money back.

>> No.7257148

Srs question, what psychologically or philosophically could be used to describe the desire to fuck up your life?
Suicide is obvious but the desire to tarnish your name and fuck up your relationships just for the humiliation and pain seems odd

>> No.7257153

>>7257148
Just to add, notes from underground is an obvious comparison for this feel but I'm just trying to understand why we feel it

>> No.7257159

>>7257148
Masochistic aka Self-Defeating Personality disorder. It used to be in the DSM along with schizo etc, but it was removed because battered wives associations protested.

>> No.7257162

>>7257148
Personally, I think it comes from a spiteful desire for control. If you ruin yourself, you can't be ruined by chance or others. You got there first.

>> No.7257180

>>7257159
That's what it's called but >>7257162 raises a good point. Maybe a combination of desiring control and self hatred. Why not exert your control to destroy something you hate.
But why not just kill yourself? Why insist on humiliation when control and destruction are both found in suicide

>> No.7257190

>>7257135
Literally the topest kek I've had at any image this week.

>> No.7257227

>>7256697
actually, people just pretend to comprehend it
theres a bot written that can randomly generate Computer Science research papers that get past through peer reviewed institutions of publication

>> No.7257246

the eastern philosophers, for sure.

you'll fuck up your life and feel noble/enlightened doing it.

>> No.7257326

>>7257246
Zen Buddhism & Capitalism or Christian Humanism & Socialism; you can pick only one.

>> No.7257330

Read Zappfe's The Last Messiah

That shit fucked me up for months. Fuckin' real life snow crash.

>> No.7257911

Albert Caraco

>> No.7258439

>>7256663
cyrenaics

>> No.7258456

>>7256663
Timothy dexter, tbh.

>> No.7258919

Diogenes

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>>7256663
Casanova, in audio books for instance. Women are no match for you, so they will destroy you.

>> No.7259184

>>7256697
Wow, you are an authentic retard!

>> No.7259201

>>7256663
You should exclusively read continental philosophy from the 20th century.

>> No.7259727

Kant

>> No.7259778

Die Philosophie auf das Letzemenschen, herr Kant.

>> No.7260589

>>7258456
FIRST IN THE EAST FIRST IN THE WEST THE GREATEST PHILOSOPHER IN THE WESTERN WORLD

>> No.7260594

>>7256682
Beethoven is a philosopher?

>> No.7260598

I would say Nietzsche because you will feel such a lack of self-actualization it will stir you into doing some crazy shit that may get you killed or arrested

>> No.7261197

>>7256663
Hegel, as he's an idiot who cannot into map/territory dichotomy.

>> No.7261988

>>7256759
FUCKING IDIOT FUCK YOU

>> No.7262312

>>7256663
This is all entry lvl shit. try Roy A Sorensen's thought experiment on for size. That shit will make you reevaluate existence itself.

Non-philosophy wise you should fucks with COmte de Lautreamont