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ITT we discuss paintings and books related.

This landscape is unusual in its elevated, almost bird's-eye point of view. Such an angle can be seen as an attempt to look at the world in the Japanese way, natural for an artist obsessed with Japan. However, we cannot speak of serious influence here: Van Gogh's view was individual and came from his own impressions. The dynamism distinguishing this canvas is alien to Far Eastern landscapes. The painting has an enormous internal energy. The crossing diagonals forming the borders of the fields and the ploughed furrows, the contours of the roofs, the row of cypresses - such vectors strain the composition, but not so much as to disturb the unity of the whole. It is a study from nature. The colouring of the painting and the action of the figures show us that it was executed in autumn, a time when Van Gogh worked not only on the hospital grounds, but outside them as well.

>> No.7246640
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>artist obsessed with Japan.
Was van Gogh the original weeaboo?

Pic related is a sculpture made by time-travelling Greeks who came to the 20th century. There, they saw modern art that they reproduced here.
It also looks nice imo.

>> No.7246723

>>7246640
van gogh first came into contact with japonism via other artists in paris who had been influenced by japanese art for years, so I wouldn't say so. He did really become an enthusiastic weeabo though.

>> No.7246742

>Such an angle can be seen as an attempt to look at the world in the Japanese way.

What's the Japanese way ?

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>>7246742
i think the japanese way, in this context, was to depict things in an impersonal or "distant" way, which is also what van gogh is creating with this bird's eye pov. I guess. Don't know if that's what the op meant exactly.

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>>7246765
it's strange, even this kind of stuff has an impersonal feeling to it. There's never any real expression in their faces.

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No gay shit

>> No.7247687

>>7246640
>obsessed with
No, that's only what certain orientalists propound. We do know that there was a certain fashion for Japanese amongst painter of the time, but it was more like inspiration than influence.

>> No.7247697

>>7247687
Ernest pls go

>> No.7247703

>>7247697
meant for>>7247647

>> No.7247709

>>7247647
i like to watch bullfights while being cuckolded

>> No.7247744

>>7247647
>when the cuck gets fed up.jpg

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>> No.7248040

>>7247780
>>7247803
I hate Norman Rockwell. He's a talented painter, but it's all so fucking whitewashed, so middle class.

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>>7247647
bruh

>> No.7248102

>>7248040
he is a product of his time

should he have painted something 'worthwhile' instead of 'wasting' his talents?

believe it or not, if you step back from your modern amerocentric point of view, you would realize his paintings encapsulate a specific and unique point in world history

are you disappointed in vermeer for painting boring ol' dutch people just hanging about, wearing common clothes and doing common things? he should have painted space aliens instead

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>>7248040
here's something he did that was a little darker.

>> No.7248168

>>7248102

This is the exact reason why I think the Art Deco style of architecture makes me very... uneasy (not the best word to describe it, but the closest I've been able to find). Seeing buildings in that style and prominently displaying that art always unsettle me. It's too much of a perfect snapshot of a time period and, to me, it makes me very uncomfortable seeing it carried over into today's life.

>> No.7248225

I started oil painting again, but all I can paint is dicks and phalic objects

I try to paint fruit in classes and all I see is big banana dicks, if model comes for nude poses all I can paint is dick shaped bodies, if teacher takes us outside to paint landscapes I paint dick shaped trees and clouds. The class said I have a problem during critique, but there was one couple that liked my work; some very strange people in a sense of how they dress (baggy black clothing) and how they behave towards others (open and very seductive). Anyways I decided to stop participating in that workshop because the instructors can't help but give us subjects with phallic shapes.

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>>7248225
>mfw

>> No.7248738

>>7248116
Still not a fan of it. Even at its darkest, it's too cut and dry.

>>7248102
Is he a good representation of his epoch's attitudes? Definitely.

Do I like him for it? Not one bit. If I despise the values of a generation, it's likely that I'll hate its personification.

>> No.7250662

>>7248225
This.

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>> No.7251710

anyone have hist of the use of ratios within composition I could look into?

I like seeing analytic notations over paintings of how the composition allows objects/subjects to complement one another.

>> No.7251731

>>7248040
Is white washed and middle class supposed to be bad?

>> No.7251737

>>7251731
it is quiet boring

>> No.7251743

*quite

>> No.7251761

>>7251737
And black washed lower class is much more exciting I presume.

>> No.7251915

>>7251761
yes because it focus on the lower class which is a step away from the narcissistic decadence it had become through the classical era (a painting of master and his kids/church commissioned work). This also allowed for more creative techniques because the painter was painting for himself and was not steered by some wealthy patreon.

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>>7251710
in the west, we've always used the Golden Mean. The East has other traditions, but I'm not familiar enough to remember what they were called.

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Munch

Fav tbh

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Klimt, beautiful

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D. Rivera

this wall is several stories tall, and the other three walls of the room are done in the same style.

makes quite an impression on a detroit suburbanite, particularly when you're like seven y.o. the first time you go, I'll tell you.

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The Garden of Earthly Delights kills me. It heavily inspires many concepts in my writing.

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>>7252104
Since Michigan has cut Detroit out of the union, by nullifying it's representation, I say it's up for grabs.

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How many years would it take me to be able to paint like this?

>> No.7253561

>>7253496
I cannot stand how such great technique is wasted for such unimaginative magical realist landscape painting

>> No.7253566

>>7253561
There is nothing more worth painting that nature, though that's probably besides your point.
I think it's fine, he has his share of real landscapes.

>> No.7253571

>>7253475
I'm sorry to be this guy but that looks like a mushroom trip (in a good way).

>> No.7253609

>>7248738
>If I despise the values of a generation, it's likely that I'll hate its personification.
Seek help you triggered twat.

>> No.7253619

>>7253496
It's not that hard to paint. To think of something like this on that scale on the other hand and being able to translate the thought into the tangible so to speak, that's something else entirely. But to be at that painting level maybe 3 years if you bust your ass off.

>> No.7253623

>>7253619
only three years?
what if I don't bust my ass off?

>> No.7253668

>>7253623
At most 5 and that's with like two hours a day of sketching or painting. It really doesn't take that long to learn how to paint and being able to eyeball color and values.

Unless you go full deviantart mode and go 10 years with no progress or somehow get worse.

>> No.7254506

>>7253668
>deviantart

top kek.

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>>7253571
Maybe Benton was on shrooms.
Naw. I can make some real trippy ideas without the stuff. Maybe it's artists who create the drug trip beforehand

>>7253623
Ever watch that happy painter guy?
If you had the materials, time, patience, and a modicum of talent, you could do it.

>> No.7255853

>>7248168
fuck off art deco rocks u cocksucker

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Yiiit

>> No.7256387

>>7248116
>white man plz sav man
white washed still

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aD5nCmxSE8

anyone else here /aesthete/?

>> No.7256415

>>7252079
whoa! that's neat.

>> No.7256435

>>7256406
My eyes hurt

>> No.7256444
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Anyone else here into design? God damn i love Nendo

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>>7256435
>he can't handle bright and colorful environments

>> No.7256508

Painting is somewhat intimidating to me. There is so much of it and I don't know where to start learning about it. Though I feel that way about most art forms when looking at them as a whole. I have a bunch of Japanese art books in my wishlist though.

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>> No.7256541
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What's a good book about new objectivity?

>> No.7257982 [DELETED] 

So what about books on or about art as a medium or as a theory and aesthetic?

>> No.7258814

>>7248116
>a little darker
heh.

>> No.7259811

>>7246777
>that uncensored pussy tho

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I always feel so sorry for Egon Schiele whenever I see his nude drawings. It's as if he has no understanding of sensuality and he keeps visiting these STD afflicted prostitutes ans asking them to pose, and they're just laying there like "I hope you're paying for this, artsy boy".

>> No.7259839

>>7259833
That's the point

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>>7256387
I think it's based on this photo

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>>7246421
Surprisingly enough, I don't care for it much. It feels too withdrawn from realism to be appreciated for detail nor surrealism/impressionism to be appreciated for its style.

>Pic related
My favorite of all time.

>> No.7259916

>>7259882
I have seen this same piece for who knows how many times being posted here, yet each of the time I can't help but feel some awe. Plato and Aristotle pointing fingers look so elegant.

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>>7259882
Do you care for other van goghs?
His (self-)portraits are wonderful.

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>>7259932
Or what about his olive trees?

Pure beauty if you ask me

>> No.7259961

>>7259882
Just noticed something interesting. Look at how the leftmost figure of a cupid, the one right next to the book, looks unto the viewer. The next figure, with one figure inbetween them, is a child, too, looking at the viewer. Right of Avicenna you see a womanlike figure looking at the viewer, again. You could guess that is a young man. Now go all the way to the right side, right next to the astronomer to the right, is a figure of a a slightly looking older man, too looking at the viewer.

Are these figures related? Could these represent a man coming into wisdom as represented through infancy, childhood, adoloscence and finally maturity? I might be overthinking, but the Raphael might be representing his own philosophical beliefs as in he places the infant right next to the figures he believe are babby-tier and the older figure right next to ones he believes to be more wiser in the same way that older people are typically wiser than young people.

>> No.7259993

>>7259961
To add, there is another figure looking directly at the viewer and another one that might be looking at thte viewer. The former figure is right above the right most young man, the one with the burly beard whose face is only visible. The another one is right to Aristotle, an old man, and he might be looking at the viewer.

So is Raphael giving clues to as to which Greeks one should start with and eventually end with i.e. Plato and Aristotle?

>> No.7260001

>>7259961
The figure you mentioned most to the right is actually a self-portrait of raphael.

If you're right to connect him to the other looking figures, it might represent his own maturing.

>> No.7260016

>>7260001
Well, they are the only ones looking at the viewer directly. And the right one is similiar to the womanlooking left one. The faces seem somewhat similiar.

>> No.7260032

>>7260016
You're right, wikipedia tells me that that one might also be a self-portrait, actually. It could also be his mistress, "as a personification of love", or the duke of Urbino, apparantly.

>> No.7260034

>>7259916
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but if i remember correctly there's actually an artistic reason behind each gesture. Given that each figure is a representative of aniquity, plato and aristotle have different gesture to denote their respective philosphies.

Plato towards the heavens, and aristotle outward. Or something like that...

>>7259932
Certainly, Van Gogh is a fine painter imo, even if i'm not the most educated on the matter.

>>7259961
There's a lot of symbolism in it, definitely try looking up the historical context because its an really rich piece.

>> No.7260046

>>7260034
I'm sincere, it's just that my ability to write is at the given time quite limited due to intense wageslavery that I just went trough, so what I might be saying might just sound quite dull and like an uninspired attempt at shitposting.

Post links to interpretations of School of Athens.

>> No.7260056

>>7259961
Also note the statue of apollo (music, art) left and the statue of athena (wisdom) right.

>> No.7260089

>>7260046
Interesting bit about the group of people looking at the viewer:

http://www.academia.edu/4821731/The_pope_the_painter_and_the_dynamics_of_social_standing_in_the_Stanza_della_Segnatura

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What are some good books about art?

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>>7256387
The three of them are getting killed.

Rockwell was just a commercial artist who gained in popularity. Pick of the style all you want (in your head please) he was not shy about his progressiveness.

Or is that your *real* problem with him?

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I went to the Menil Collection, Cy Twombly Gallery, and Rothko Chapel this past weekend. It was awesome. Surrealism is one of my favorite movements/styles and I really like writing surrealistic stuff.

One thing I didn't expect was a yearning to go back. I feel like I was just 'introduced' to these people and now I want to hang out with them. Before this past weekend, I just heard that Magritte, Twombly, Rothko, and Chirico were cool people, but now I've met them and want to spend more time with them. Not sure if that makes sense. It might be my imagination, but I feel like something is chiding me into going back.

>> No.7262279

>>7262273
Oops, I didn't mean chide.

Feels like something is nudging me back.

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Seing this was the moment I started getting into art history

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>> No.7262453

>>7251685

No one else can depict timelessness as Vermeer can.
Even a simple gesture and I feel like I'm instantly connecting with the people in his paintings.

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>> No.7262518

>>7251915

I'm a hipster faggot sympathizing with blacks because they're aesthetically pleasing and edgy: The post.

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>>7251710

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what did he mean by this?

>> No.7262597

>>No.7253668

of solitary effort, no tutoring? what's the plan of approach for learning to paint? exercises, materials, progression, etc.

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>>7257982
>So what about books on or about art as a medium or as a theory and aesthetic?

I'd recommend The Grove Book Of Art Writing, a collection of short pieces by art historians, critics & artists on a range of topics:

> From Vasari and Freud on why Mona Lisa smiles, to Adolf Hitler on the degeneracy of modernism, to Picasso on how to measure the depiction of the female body.

My favourite is probably Robert Hughes describing the process of having his portrait painted. Reminds me a little of David Foster Wallace writing about Roger Federer in the way he describes the movements of the painter.

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Post a better painter

Protip: get fucked

>> No.7263632

>>7263132
>Post a better painter
>Protip: get fucked
neat.

>> No.7263652

>>7263132
that's an ugly oval face and the paint looks muddy and dabbed. why do you like it?

>> No.7263658

>>7263132
downs syndrome?

>> No.7263663

>>7263132
lel top b8
>no continuity
>horrible color palette
>looks like someone left it in a wet attic

>> No.7263667

Samurai Champloo did a nice homage to Van Gogh in one of thier episodes

>> No.7263682

>>7247647

Why is the matador levitating?

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>>7259833

His entire artistic vision was to blur the lines between sensuality and suffering, silly. He said the following in an interview once:

>They were intended to look buckled under, the bodies of those who are tired of life, suicidal.

He's doing something beyond "let's make it look sexy."

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>>7262326
I always like this one in juxtaposition with Manet's Olympia, painted in the same year (1863). One follows academic standards and was very well received. The other deviated from the academic art and was seen as shocking, immoral and vulgar.

One shows idealised, smooth nude and tries to personify beauty. The other tries to show a very real woman (prostitute even), using broad and quick brushstrokes.
Cabanel uses shadow and light to highlight parts of Venus, Manet uses equal spread of light to show the entire body of Olympia and emphasise her nakedness. The only this that's hidden, she hides herself, emphasising her independence, whereas parts of Venus are hidden only by external factors.

One, by deviating from reality, maintains the academic tradition, the other, by deviating from academic tradition (and romanticism, and even the realist schools), shows us reality.

Ofcourse, we all know which one shaped all art since.

>> No.7263777

>>7262459
Does someone have a high resolution version of this?

>> No.7263778

>>7260532
I like The Art Spirit

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>> No.7263857

>>7263798
I don't get it

>> No.7263864

>>7260532
The Story of Art
The Shock of the New

>> No.7263877

>>7263857
I read the title and quick posted a recent image, didn't see "story behind the art". Uhhh...

She is the story. It was shit, she took a picture. Shit picture. Beautiful story.

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>>7263692

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>>7264009

>> No.7264021

>>7264012
oh there was supposed to be a commentary

the guy captures my home city beautifully and I could stare at those paintings for hours. the effect is a combination of the colors used, the lighting, and the overall mood of the scenes

the end

>> No.7264164

Do you have to be technically proficient to be a good painter? Even when I look at paintings that look "simplistic" in technique, I'm guessing it's an artist choosing to do so as opposed to that being his limitation.

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>>7263741
Funny, the same thing could be said about Delacroix's Sardanapale, regarding Ingre's (hideous) Homer.

Released on the same year (same salon even, 1827 if I recall correctly), Ingres was acclamated, very classic, while Delacroix passed the jury to get the right to be exposed by only one voice, and was put on a very disadvantaging position (upon the entrance door, on the inside).

Sardanapale is unacademic, aggressive for it's contemporary's senses and very dynamic, said to have been painted with a «drunken broom».

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>>7264517
And here is Homere.

Today, they are both at the Louvre, one room apart from each other, but Sardanapale is granted a much better position

>> No.7264535

>>7264517
Fuck, seing it on a screen gives nothing of the impression it makes IRL

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>>7262453

>> No.7265210

>>7248040
The funny thing is he painted the picture perfect american life yet spent most of his own in depression.

>> No.7265240

does anyone have a book recommendation on the history of american art, leading at least up to the 2000's?

>> No.7265250

>>7265210
that's not very funny anon. depression is never funny.

>> No.7265275

>>7261277
>the Rabbi's nose

Yikes

>> No.7265295

>>7265250
I suppose not.

>> No.7265470

>>7264021
Those are really nice, what's his name

>> No.7265508
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>>7248040

>> No.7265603
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>>7263663
>>7263658
>>7263652
>>7263632
The plens on this board, I swear

>> No.7266156

>>7265470
http://www.mikatoronen.com/

>> No.7266185

>>7252079
damn, that is very nice

>> No.7266351
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Delville

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>> No.7266376
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>> No.7266400

>>7256406
>>7256452

These two are cute.

>> No.7266904

>>7248040
>>7248040

> le middle class means anything is automatically bad
> abstract or 3rd world genderqueer only pls guiyz

>> No.7267376

>>7247780
I'm not really a fan of his paintings but they make me more aware of how ironically detached I am most of the time. Some of them seem too sincere though, like this one

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>>7267376
oopsadaisy

>> No.7268469
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SUCK MY DIX

>> No.7268489

>>7267376
>>7267379
I'm not sure if I should feel pity or sadness that someone has never had a family meal at a table before. Or if you do, do you just sit in silence. Do Americans really eat every fucking meal in front of a television? Even Thanksgiving?

>> No.7268501
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SUCK MY FREUD

>> No.7268533
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AM I PRETTY ENOUGH FOR YOU, ASSHOLES ?

>> No.7268618

>>7246723

I actually have a silk book from France that was a quasi-graphic novel probably from the early 1900's? All in the style of Japanese art, but written completely in French.

>> No.7268622

>>7256369
i liked this one

>> No.7268632

>>7264517
>I don't know what Academic means, but from the tone of my professor's voice, it must be a bad thing. Down with the system!

>> No.7268649

>>7268632
Nope, I just hate Ingres, and rigidity in composition

>> No.7268696
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Lit's opinion on this chart?

>> No.7268697
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One of my favorites

>> No.7268702

>>7268649

What about Ingres do you hate? I am genuinely curious. I won't name-call if you're honest so don't hold back.

>> No.7268715

>>7268696
>only white Europeans ever made art
>the schism of 7th through 9th century church anti-idolatry destruction of art extended to the renaissance/enlightenment
>churches and statues aren't considered art
What kind of 15 year old facebook user just getting into naturalism made this.

>> No.7268733
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>>7268715
Just so you know, it's a variation of this classic

>> No.7268735

>>7268696

A half-assed misappropriation of the equally misinformed scientific advancement chart? Appropriate for people who have a public school education, where Mondrian is completely taken out of his own artistic development, and ABSOLUTELY NO ONE explains the link between World War I and Duchamp. No one.

>> No.7268744

>>7268733
I thought so. It's just so wildly inaccurate I can't help but reply, it's like when people say "all beer tastes bad people just drink it to get drunk".

>> No.7268752

>>7268735
Dadaism is such an interesting concept.

>> No.7268760
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>>7268702
I don't feel anything from any of his paintings.

Far too static and openly geometrical, his characters have empty eyes and postures. Also, I find his anatomic "twists" uncalled for.

Nothing intense comes out of his paintings, but that's just my opinion.

His Oedipus is fine, though.

>> No.7268769

>>7268752

It really isn't. Pretentious Swiss bourgeois masturbating over post-Nietzsche morality. Look at me, I can roll dice!

>> No.7268780

>>7268769
The Lost Generation representing their struggles and uncertainty in a post-war volatile area where countries are still at each other's' throats through expressionist art is interesting to me.

>> No.7268787

>>7268696
Catholicism gave birth to the age of reason you moron

>> No.7268810

>>7268780

Yeah, that bland, textbook photo-copy of Dada really convinces me that you're interested in it.

The pretense never ends.

>> No.7268827

>>7268810
I never posted any pictures? It's a critique on war culture and was a pretty important movement.

>> No.7268851

>>7268696
Relevant

youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc

>> No.7270161

>>7252164
I know, my favourite painting for sure. Bosch in general is just a master

>> No.7270319

>>7268851

this guy is a hack

>> No.7270453

>>7266376
>>7266363
>Odilon Redon

Good taste. Who are some other artists you like?

>> No.7270473

Hey /lit/, any recs for books on art critique and understanding all the pretty pictures in this thread?

>> No.7271065
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>>7268787
Reason is what "killed" god.
What level of irony are you at?

>> No.7271343

>>7270473
Most classical art is based on mythos, so start with the greeks

>> No.7271488
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7271488

/lit/ has the same taste in art as my middle age parents lmao

>>7256444
nice

>>7259833
idiot

>>7268696
>only white art exists
>le modren art is dumb lol my babby cud doit lol

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>> No.7271534

>>7247647
do you really think they has to do with cucks

>> No.7272737

Could someone post Ivan the terrible and his spn painting please ?

>> No.7272815

>>7246765
>>7246777
Nah, that's confirmational bias on your part I think m8. Japanese cultural aesthetics are extremely broad, there are many simple and intimate and emotional pieces of art.

>> No.7272823

Jesus this thread is just misinformation and pseudo art critique all over. Think of the way you would critique literature and then see how you're critiquing a painting.

>> No.7272860

>mfw retards don't understand that art is objective

>> No.7273481

>>7248168
"Uncanny" might be more appropriate.

That unsettled you, though? I find it tremendously comforting. It has remained in most cities, "...in the midst of other woe / Than ours, a friend to man..." It's practically the last time commerce and art merged to make something beautiful.

>> No.7273517

>>7267379
The guy looking straight at the viewer always gets me.

>>7253609
Not who you were speaking to but aside from its intrinsic nostalgia -and it is impressive, in that it can be triggered in people who weren't even around at the time- his work is kind of boring.

>> No.7274579

>>7270453

i like the symbolists a lot, and czech / austrian painters of the late 1800s and early 1900s. frantisek, kubin, etc.

>> No.7274590

>>7246765
distance is has always been in european philosophy and aesthetics. idealism is a distancing from material reality for example.

>> No.7275179

>>7272815
Welp, found the weeaboo

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art threads bring out the worst in /lit/

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>> No.7275355

>>7275345
it's quite sad

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>>7275355
kinda disappointing yeah :/

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>> No.7275418
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>> No.7275430

>>7275406
>>7275412
Pretty good. He managed to spook me with legs that should have aroused me. The fuck.

>> No.7275458
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>>7275430
he's quite good ...very mixed feelings about the content actually sometimes too ominous 4me

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>> No.7275480

>>7248040

I really don't understand how you can say that especially in the context of this painting.

>> No.7275495

>>7246421

Actually Van Gogh was influenced by Japanese woodcuts.

>> No.7275498

>>7246421

fuck that is a really nice painting.

>> No.7275508

>>7248102

interesting. you articulate the point nicely. as for vermeer I do find most of those paintings boring.

>> No.7275516

>>7248738
>If I despise the values of a generation,

What values do you despise?

>> No.7275517

>>7251761

wow rekt!

>> No.7275526

>>7253561

lol that landscape is nowhere realistic...have you ever seen light looking that!??

>> No.7275535

>>7265603
lmao people have the audacity to critique a painting without being aware of cezanne or his influence

>> No.7277087

>>7263132
It's okay, fella, Cezanne's my favorite as well.

>> No.7278305
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good thread op

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>>7248116
Blatant ripoff
(before you waste your time; photo is 3 years older)

>> No.7278373

>>7278350
it's based off of it, dumbass

>> No.7278413

>>7278373
I know. Grow a sense of humour, man.

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>> No.7278933

>lit art
>no francis bacon

>> No.7279032

>>7263864

I didn't like Story of Art much at all, but Ways of Seeing had some cool things in it

>> No.7279078

>>7275400
I THINK I'M GONNA HURL!

>> No.7280371

>>7279078
NEIN !

>> No.7280397

>>7278350
what's sartre doing in venezuela

>> No.7281673

>>7280397
top kek

>> No.7283457

>>7260532
the end of art

>> No.7283550

>>7278350
check the thread before posting>>7259864

>> No.7283572

Where is Gustave Dore?
you dissapointed me, /lit/.

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>>7283457
Art is like a tree. This is the end of some branch. Or it just might flower something else. Go look at another branch if you don't like this one.