Science Fiction and Fantasy general

[Anonymous No.7246345]

Robotics edition
>Recommendations:
>Fantasy
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>Sci-Fi
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>Who is your favorite Robot/AI from Science Fiction/Fantasy?
>What is your favorite work dealing with AI and Robotics?
>As computing and Robotics in the real world get more advanced, will the role of Robots in Science Fiction change too?

[Anonymous No.7247104]

Besides Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, The Difference Engine and Bas Lag by China Mieville, what are the essential steampunk novels?

[Anonymous No.7247123]

Anyone here read "The Three Body Problem"?

[Anonymous No.7247456]

>"philosophical science fiction"
>all humans are secretly wizards lol

Also, which segment does the title refer to?

[Anonymous No.7247716]

what does /lit/ think about prince of nothing and the related series?

[Anonymous No.7248309]

>>7247716
4chan over the years has turned me into a filthy pervert. With that said, I liked the rape, gay and incest in Prince of Nothing Series.

[Anonymous No.7248317]

>>7247716
It's great. I liked the rape, gay and incest in Prince of Nothing Series.

[Anonymous No.7248351]

I don't usually come to this board, but what does /lit/ think of Hyperion as scifi?

I read through the whole first volume, but I was just left thinking "is that fucking it?"

Am I just not cut out for serious business literature, or do some people agree?

Also, any recommendations for people who like scifi, but not hyperion? I like reading, but the last English book I read for leisure was probably a good 7 years ago so I'm pretty much a blank slate.

[Anonymous No.7248352]

Reminder

[Anonymous No.7248404]

>>7248351
Hyperion is middle-brow. Did a lot of nice things but stuffed everything else with cliche. As SF it took other peoples' ideas and did fun things with them, linked them with archaic ideas but not as good as it could have, but man if that fight with the Ousters wasn't fun.

It wasn't serious business literature. It tried but was chained by cliche. Wolfe or Herbert if you want serious business, Pynchon or Vonnegut for your hipster nephew, Zelazny or Le Guin if you want to have fun while you're serious businessing.

[Anonymous No.7248405]

>>7248351
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Hyperion Series.

[Anonymous No.7248407]

>>7248405
Having sex with the Shrike was a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.7248415]

>>7248404
>Zelazny or Le Guin if you want to have fun while you're serious businessing.
That sounds like what I'm looking for. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.7248429]

>>7248405
Why are you trying to make a meme out o my comment?>>7248309

[Anonymous No.7248444]

>>7248429
Maybe he liked the rape, gay and incest.

[Anonymous No.7248553]

>>7248351
Check out Revelation Space, brother man.

[Anonymous No.7248828]

is this series good, /lit/? I'm looking for something new to read

[Anonymous No.7248902]

>>7247716
An excellent epic fantasy, the best that is being currently written, and probably my second favourite over all.

Bakker tends to philosophize a lot, which puts a lot of people off, but not me. His naming scheme also turns people off, and if you read series where you want to root for characters, there's barely any. But I like pretty much everything about it.

[Anonymous No.7248913]

>>7247456
The whole book. 'Childhood' is the human race. Also don't piss CE, that ending scene alone is beautiful enough to make all of the weird supernatural stuff worth it.

[Anonymous No.7248991]

>>7248913
Oh, I did think it was a beautiful work of prose. It's just that I was a little disappointed that the great special thing about humanity that was hyped up throughout the book turned out to be magic.

[Anonymous No.7249385]

>>7248902
>But I like pretty much everything about it.
I bet you are a literal cuck.

You like guys who come out of the blue and steal your girl and impregnate them.

Fuck the thousandcuck thought.

[Anonymous No.7249410]

>>7248828
I liked the rape, gay and incest in the Warded Man series.

[Anonymous No.7249609]

I'm on page 900 (out 1000 on my kindle) and I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed by this book (and The Name of the Wind). I like when he's travelling but each time he stays at in a place the story gets quite boring.

[Anonymous No.7249637]

>>7249609

That part when he goes to Adem? and learns from the oh so wise totarry not weeaboo warrior race was horrible, I skimmed it while squinting very hard to shield my eyes from the filth

I also skimmed over the faerie world shit

[Anonymous No.7249708]

Does anyone have any book recommendations for civilization/nation/city building shit? Fantasy or sci-fi doesn't matter, bonus points if it's someone using advanced knowledge because he's a dimension/time traveller or something. Really I'd accept just about anything though

Kinda in the same vein, any recommendations for survival novels, loner or group trying to survive and improve their lot by imposing order on nature?

[Anonymous No.7249757]

>>7249609
If he had an editor to cut out 70% of the novel it would have been a solid copy of Fritz Leiber.

[Anonymous No.7249854]

>>7249757
i wish they didn't cut out the rape, gay and incest.

[Anonymous No.7249869]

>>7249854
So does our general have it's first meme?

[Anonymous No.7250792]

>>7249869
If we don't force it. If we just let the rape, gay and incest flow naturally.

[Anonymous No.7250824]

>>7249708
Lest Darkness Fall by de Camp and The Deadly Mission of Phineas Snodgrass by Pohl, but I think what you'd like best is Tunnel in the Sky by Heinlein.

Alternately, I've been getting into Patricia C. Wrede's Thirteenth Child series, sort of an Alvin Maker kind of magical American frontier that focuses more on the magic and wildlife.

[Anonymous No.7251022]

>>7250824

Thanks, the de Camp and Heinlein novels sound great. I'll check them out

Anyone else, don't be afraid to recommend other books

[Anonymous No.7251026]

Some of you highprinces are alright
Don't go anywhere on Roshar tomorrow
Happening spanreeds will be sent tomorrow morning

[Anonymous No.7251103]

>>7249410
Why are you memeing the comment... although it does match what happened.

Raped by road thugs and have your virginity taken.
Buggered by your brother in arms after you won your first victory
Have daddy tenderize your cunny because all of your older sisters ran away... now you a messed up bitch

[Anonymous No.7252269]

anyone around here read prince of nothing?
opinions on it?

[Anonymous No.7252331]

>>7252269
Rape.
Gay.
Incest.

[Anonymous No.7252343]

Reminder to read Footfall and go to the zoo and punch an elephant in the face.

[Anonymous No.7252456]

Why has fantasy drifted away from coming of age, adventure fantasy? It's a lot better to watch a character grow and overcome adversity rather than get dropped into the middle of an established character's story.

[Anonymous No.7252513]

>>7247716
It's terrible, in a plethora of ways.

[Anonymous No.7252518]

>>7252456
Because Westerners are deathly afraid of trying something old. Meanwhile the Japs are in the process of elevating the trapped-in-an-MMO novel to high art.

[Anonymous No.7252571]

>>7252456
best be trollin nigga, starting in the middle of an established story is most patrish, if u had started with the greeks u woulda knew that

[Anonymous No.7252651]

>>7252456
Trends happen. Things change.

I've been working on a series that starts with the MC at 14 and ends with her being near 150. Its sci-fi though, not fantasy but I think you get the point.
If you want to see more coming of age stories you might have to look for them. There's probably some good stuff out there by small authors looking for an audience.

[Anonymous No.7252707]

Who should I go to if I want to get a fantasy novel published? Every agency I check out seems to have "no fantasy/sci-fi submissions" as a rule.

That and they don't take children's books.

[Anonymous No.7252768]

>>7252707
Tor and Gollancz are two big ones I believe

[Anonymous No.7253091]

>>7252331
Anon. If you somehow force this into a meme I would be touched, knowing that you used my post as a template.

[Anonymous No.7253121]

>>7252456
Codex Alera by Jim Butcher
Night Angel by Brent Weeks
Lightbringer by Bent Weeks
Let the right one in by John Ajvide Lindqvist
Lolita Lel
The Broken Empire by Mark Lawrence
The Abhorsen Series by Garth Nix
The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
The Demon Cycle by Peter V. Brett
The Gentleman Bastard Sequence by Scott Lynch(kinda)
The Long Price Quartet by Daniel Abraham

All coming of age. Follows from youth to adulthood.
Enjoy

[Anonymous No.7253126]

Which writer predicted future tech the best?

[Anonymous No.7253141]

>>7253091
It wasn't just me. Team effort.

>Earth about to be wiped by asteroids
>Hillary uses one nuke to clear out the Venezuelans and let one more launch out of French Guiana
>This is the only nuke used on Earth
>Nobody built an Orion death fortress to secure humanity's future, we almost died with all of our nukes in the silos
You're killing me, Stephenson.

[Anonymous No.7253147]

>>7253126

I hate to have to say it

[Anonymous No.7253230]

Anyone else looking forward to Story of Your Life being made into a movie?
Just me probably...

[Anonymous No.7253239]

>>7253230
who is this dick sheath

[Anonymous No.7253255]

>>7248828
It flies off the rails after book 3 and devolves into an excuse for Brett to wank over his worldbuilding. The odds of this series reaching a satisfying conclusion are middling, but either way, I read part of The Skull Throne and dropped that shit. The last thing the series needed was more new characters and side-conflicts when there were already established and more interesting ones to play with in the first place. In a way, it made me feel like I was reading the middle Wheel of Time books again - the stuff I really wanted to see was off-camera and hundreds of pages away, bookending a ten ton slab of horse shit I didn't care about.

[Anonymous No.7253257]

>>7253239
What happens when asian pussy gets shaved.

[Anonymous No.7253310]

>>7253141
As a fag from Guyana(not French Guiana), I literally smiled when they nuked Venezuela..... but me being right there next to the cunts I got Nuked too.

[Anonymous No.7253317]

>>7253255
But you liked when Harl raped his daughter right?

It was hot when she got used to it and willingly let her pussy be used.

[Anonymous No.7253324]

>>7253310
It's cool, you would have been fried right after anyway. Because Stephenson didn't have the rocks to make the Cloud Ark a flotilla of nuke-driven high-population spinships.

The book we could have had.

[Anonymous No.7253369]

>>7251026
I shall be known as the Highprince of Shitposting

[Anonymous No.7254138]

>>7253255
Anon here again, thinking about what a shit turn the series took makes me so mad I have to talk about it some more. The and second books are actually good. Brett handles having a child protagonist really well, and it's worth reading the first book just to see how he does it. The second book expands neatly on the conflict introduced in the first; it's a worthy sequel. But the third book devotes most of its running time to the backstory of a character you probably don't care about, while moving the overall plot forward by inches, and the fourth book does the same shit. It really fucks my shit up to see what could have been a great series, solid throughout, become a wankfest. A shitty book from step one I can forgive, shit will always be shitty, but wasted potential? Can't stand it.

>>7253317
Especially when all her sisters can hear, and other people in the village know and nobody does anything about it? Yeah, maybe a little.

[Anonymous No.7254172]

THAT SHADOWS OF SELF ENDING THO FAM

[Anonymous No.7254220]

>>7252571
>le old people did it so it must be patrician meme

[Anonymous No.7254229]

>>7254138
I am taking about the last one, Arlen's wife. She spread her legs and took it like a champ for a time, but couldn't live like that forever.

I still get stiff thinking about her submitting that prime teen pussy to daddy.

Wish I knew a girl with daddy issues in my youth, that would take me behind the playground and let me stick her.(I knew girls with daddy issues, but they didn't want me to stick them. Probably thought I couldn't match up to their daddy.)

[Anonymous No.7254234]

>>7254172
Wax was a Zombie(something that liked to eat corpses) fucker.

[Anonymous No.7255252]

>>7254220
Old people did genre fiction too, and for that we know the Greeks were turboplebeian.

[Anonymous No.7255322]

>>7254220
Tails Gets Trolled is the most patrician piece of writing since War and Peace.

[Anonymous No.7255336]

>>7252456
>coming of age
literally reddit

[Gaskun !!LKQ0Koj4uFz No.7255389]

>>7252456
I've got this one covered. MC starts at 15-18 book 1, book 2 starts at the age of 35 and gives the back story of 18-35 across the next 6 books, and uses some time play and matrix-y cyberspace "technobabble" to have the story conclude long after their death.

[Anonymous No.7255395]

>>7246345
I'm currently reading Latro in the Mist by Gene Wolfe. What is /lit/'s opinion of it? I only ever hear you lot chat about BotNS., which I read and thought was great, I think I prefer latro though

Where should I go after Latro? Was considering the Wizard Knight, and I'm sure it'll be good too, but I don't know, something about modern day kiddo in an arthurian world really puts me off for some reason.

Also, can I get some recommendations? I think my favourite fantasy authors are Tolkien, Le Guin and Gene Wolfe. Folks that don't do it for me:

>Robert Jordan
Started well, but books begin to drag when there are entire books where fuck all happens
>GRR Martin
gritty to the point of caricature, plus similar problems to above (not as bad though)
>Erikson
seems like he wrote the first malazan book because he loved his myths and legends so much, which isn't necessarily a bad thing when the actual book has an engaging plot to back it up. I wasn't so engaged.
>Sanderson
Read Mistborn. At risk of sounding like an ass, the prose, plot and characters all made me cringe.

[Anonymous No.7255400]

>>7255395
You could read the prologue to Way of Kings and judge if Sanderson's writing improved enough for you to read him.

[Anonymous No.7255418]

>>7254172
>that feel when you're dead inside and endings like this don't even come close to phasing you
I'm hoping some of the later Cosmere HAPPENINGS will blow my mind.

>>7255400
To add onto what this anon said, Stormlight does still retain a lot of repetition (like you would notice in Mistborn with characters repeating the same actions often, main female characters being written the same, stuff like that.)

Also Way of Kings is solid but it does have acknowledged pacing issues.

[Anonymous No.7255420]

>>7255395
I've recently read Latro; It's excellent and certainly a treat for all those who've read their greeks. You could always read the latest Latro book: Soldier of Sidon.

[Anonymous No.7255474]

>>7255395
Wolfe never quite did something better than New Sun because I think it is the culmination of his entire life and work, like Dostoevsky with TBK, but he didn't die after it.
All other works were not as good, which isn't to say they weren't good, Wizard Knight is what YA should look like, while reading it I had a blast, it's like those boyhood games and dreams about knights and wizards I used to play or watch cartoons about, but really taken on another level.
Also try Dick and Lem, aside the ones you already mentioned are the best in SFF. The 4 later on are either really bad like Erikson or fun pulp like Martin.

[Anonymous No.7255516]

>>7255400
>>7255418
Maybe I should give him another shot at some point. He writes so much, that he's probably come a long way. One thing though, is Way of Kings going to be a long series? I'm loathe to begin another 5+ series, with each book being 400+ pages, especially if the full series isn't out yet. I feel as though those books aren't satisfying individually a lot of the time.
>>7255420
I hadn't realised there was another Latro book, I'll have to check that out. Is it an Urth of the New Sun type deal?
>>7255474
I got a bit confused; which 4 are you referring to?

[Anonymous No.7255526]

>>7255516
Yeah don't listen to the Sanderson fanboys. He's a trash tier writer through and through.

[Anonymous No.7255528]

>>7255516
I'm yet to read it so I've no idea of it's quality, but I've heard it's good and Wolfe made it of his own will (he released it 20 years after Soldier of Sidon; I've heard it ends with yet another cliff-hanger, so another book may be made some day).

[Anonymous No.7255532]

>>7255516
Cuckderson, GRUMM, Erikson and Jordan.

[Anonymous No.7255539]

>>7255516
Oh don't start TWoK then.
It's planned to be 10 books and only 2 of those are out so far. They both reach 1000 pages.

[Anonymous No.7255546]

>>7255539
Stuff like that is bound to be trash.

[Anonymous No.7255554]

>>7255526
>>7255546
Wow someone's buttblasted

[Anonymous No.7255555]

>>7253121
Can you give me some old ones with the same setting?

[Anonymous No.7255590]

Anything immersive with hints if profundity, but not too challenging? I'm reading Plato and learning Art History, plus studying biology, and I'd like something to read a long side that is good, but not mentally draining.

[Anonymous No.7255594]

>>7255590
The Wizard Knight
Solaris
Ubik

[Anonymous No.7255596]

>>7255539
Ah. We'll see then. Maybe in a few years. It's just that I've got to finish WoT and GoT already, and I feel like they seriously suffer from diminishing returns as the books go on. I have to finish what I start, but it isn't really fun at this point.

[Anonymous No.7255597]

>>7255516
Stormlight Archive is going to be his first (at this rate, only) 'epic' with ten books total. There will be both an in-world and real life time gap between Books 5 and 6 (modern Mistborn will be written during this time, probably some other shit as well.)

If you get into the meta, you'll end up reading them.

[Anonymous No.7255601]

>>7255594
Cheers mate. Is Ubik a good intro to Dicky?

[Anonymous No.7255603]

>>7255554
>I posted it again!

Getting published in Fantasy is extremely easy.

[Anonymous No.7255622]

>>7255603
Let me see your empire of published fantasy books then lad

[Anonymous No.7255658]

>>7255516
>I feel as though those books aren't satisfying individually a lot of the time.
He writes each Stormlight book as a trilogy. Most cliffhangers are resolved at the end, and most of the dangling threads are plainly part of the next book. He's very professional about that.

[Anonymous No.7255691]

>>7255603
>Getting published in Fantasy is extremely easy.
That is why this >>7252707 anon asked for help huh?

[Anonymous No.7256310]

>>7255603

How so?

[Anonymous No.7256489]

>>7248553
the first one was great, the sequels were garbage.

[Anonymous No.7256775]

>>7256489
Redemption Ark was fucking stellar you shut your whore mouth.

Absolution Gap was bretty cool up until that ending which felt forced and rushed.

[Anonymous No.7257121]

I really like adventure fantasy and exploring.

Are there any books about like, some guy on a journey into unknown lands, maybe not necessarily trying to save the world?

[Anonymous No.7257684]

>>7248352
It's not necessary that one is better than the other, though... it's more the difference between classical, highbrow art and cutting-edge street level art. Michelangelo vs. Banksy.

[Anonymous No.7257814]

>>7255601
No, but Androids and High Castle are. Then Scanner Darkly and Ubik, then Palmer Eldrich and Valis

[Anonymous No.7258316]

I read Rick Riordan norse book to see how norse culture was.

Was loki really Odin's blood brother? That means the comics are wrong?

Did loki really give birth to a horse....

Did Freya really fuck maggots?

[Anonymous No.7258559]

What does /lit/ think about Iain Banks' the Culture novels? Are they worth buying?

[Anonymous No.7258583]

>>7255395
Judging on your taste keep reading older authors like Peake, Donaldson etc, and stay away from modern multi-volume series. I wouldn't bother trying Sanderson again.

[Anonymous No.7258593]

How do I get into writing?
English is only my 3rd language and I want to improve my active vocab and more easily express myself so I figured I'd try my hand at writing short stories and seeing where that takes me over time. But where do I start? I've only really read the Silmarillion and the Stormlight books so far, so I have no experience in SF. I'm gonna try either writing 'originals' or fanfics of universes I already know well. How do I start? Do I brainstorm ideas first and pick and choose from those? Do I make everything up as I go along the writing process?
Do I just forget about everything and write whatever my fingers tell me?

[Anonymous No.7258601]

>>7257121
Iron Council by China Mieville has a bit of that
The Half Made World by Felix Gilman
Stephen King's Dark Tower series

[Anonymous No.7258604]

>>7258559
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Culture Series.

[Anonymous No.7258607]

>>7258601

>China Mieville

Might as well have recommended a wander in a garbage dump.

[Anonymous No.7258674]

>>7258607
>a wander in a garbage dump.
That must be your mom who's a whore.

[Anonymous No.7258688]

>>7258601
Hey mate is the City & the City, Embassytown, Perdido Street station and Scar by Mieville worth reading?

[Anonymous No.7258702]

>>7258607
Not a fan?

>>7258688
Haven't read the first two but Perdido and Scar are worth reading. He's not a great plot guy but has built a really cool, weird world and has some interesting characters especially in the Scar.

[Anonymous No.7258703]

>>7257121
Lankhmar series by Fritz Leiber
The Wizard Knight by Gene Wolfe
Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula le Guin

[Anonymous No.7258714]

>>7258604
Stop being lame, Anon.

[Anonymous No.7258716]

>>7257121
Rendezvous with Rama from Clarke. It is a strange thing on space instead of a mythical land, but it seems to suit what you asked.

Also, Jules Verne in general. Journey to the Center of the Earth and 20000 Leagues Under The Sea, more specifically.

[Anonymous No.7258734]

>>7258702
>Haven't read the first two
Do it damn you. The best of his work so far.

[Anonymous No.7258740]

>>7258604
Huh?

[Anonymous No.7258757]

>>7258702
>PSS
>Scar
Thanks mate! I'll add them to my reading list.

[Anonymous No.7258778]

>>7258604
Shart back to /b/, fuckface.

[Anonymous No.7258791]

>>7258778
>>7258740
>being this new

[Anonymous No.7258810]

>>7258791
>being an absolute fuck

[Anonymous No.7258998]

>>7258559
The Excession novel is so good, it makes Clarke's Randezous with Rama a child's writing.

[Anonymous No.7259003]

>>7258559
The Excession novel is so good, it makes Clarke's Randezous with Rama a look like child's writing.

[Anonymous No.7259652]

>>7246345

are those recommendations good?

I don´t want to waste my time

thank you

[Anonymous No.7259706]

>>7259652
Some are a bit dodgy, better to ask in the thread. What are you looking for?

[Anonymous No.7259708]

>>7259652
I've only read about half the SF chart and much less for fantasy, but yes, they are good - overwhelmingly the best sci fi and fantasy available is on there

[Anonymous No.7260076]

So once film studios start trying to cash in on Star Wars 7s success, what are some Space Operas you think will be adapted?

[Anonymous No.7260113]

>>7259652
Yes, the charts are very good. Although I don't know how you can read them being that tiny. Here's a larger version of the SF Guide.

[Anonymous No.7260130]

>>7260076
I'd like to see a new Dune movie.

[Anonymous No.7260159]

Anybody got a reccomendation?

I want to read something where a group goes on a journey. Fantasy please.

Read Dragonlance and Wheel of Time where such a thing happens.

[Anonymous No.7260433]

hey /sffg/, any idea where I can find something that qualifies as "optimistic cyberpunk?"

I mean specifically a setting that has cyberpunk's technology and earthbound setting, but where the problems in the story don't come from a dystopic regime or a dead earth. I've been nostalgic for Dennou Coil and Summer Wars lately

[Anonymous No.7261710]

wtf is ubik about?
it's full of ads

[Anonymous No.7262538]

>>7260433
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom.

It's hippie message fic tho. And you've got good taste. Have you finished YKK?

[Anonymous No.7262919]

>>7260159
Dark Tower by Stephen King.

[Anonymous No.7262943]

>>7259652
It's overall good but doesn't point you to which works are the best of the bunch.

[Anonymous No.7263462]

Hi guys! Recommend some good high quality writing sci-fi of the decade.

[Anonymous No.7263581]

>>7262538
ykk?

[Anonymous No.7263621]

>>7263462
Of the last decade? I would recommend Mieville, who I think is the best young SF writer producing work right now. His best work is also some of his more concise stuff - try The City & the City or Embassytown. His longer, more verbose Bas-Lag novels are interesting if overstuffed too.

[Anonymous No.7263668]

>>7263462
Mieville, but that doesn't mean that much.
Also Wolfe since he is still pumping out books, one came out yesterday.

[Anonymous No.7263904]

>brilliant /lit/<

[Anonymous No.7264128]

>>7255420

How historically accurate is Latro? I've had it in my bookshelf for like a year, still on my backlog

[Anonymous No.7264149]

>>7264128
Wolfe has a erudite knowledge of Ancient Greek culture and society; so it's accurate in terms of setting and how things are represented. It's not accurate for the obvious reasons, like it being a fictional story with fantastical elements.

[Anonymous No.7264197]

>>7246345
>>7260113
>>Fantasy
Military Fantasy should be added.
I'm thinking of books that included military strategies, tactics, use of resources and weapons, etc.
Not just books that have big armies and big battles.

>Black Company
>Traitor Son
>Powder Mage
>Shadow Campaign
>Codex Alera

>>Sci-Fi
You can probably do the same. Add Military Sci-Fi and/or Space (Naval) Battles sub-genre(s)

>Starship Trooper
>Armor
>Forever War
>Old Man's war

>Honor Harrington
>Lost Fleet
>Legacy Fleet
>Halo (Some of it)

Maybe the Military Sci-fi is a bit iffy

[Anonymous No.7264203]

>>7264197
>>Powder Mage

I read the first and it was bretty good, does the series hold up?

[Anonymous No.7264210]

>>7264197
That by no means deserves to be on the same list with any good book.
I mean here on /lit/ we like to shit on The Martian and GRRM, but Scalzi is worse than both by faaaaaaaaaaaaar

[Anonymous No.7264223]

Just finished my 4th Asimov book , Robots of Dawn.... Guess I am a pleb because it was utter drudgery with lame sex overtones sprinkled everywhere. Just trying to get to Foundation and I am so tired of this whodunits.

[Anonymous No.7264253]

>>7264203
>I read the first
hahaha, same here.
I started the second, and it's pretty good, but haven't finished it wasn't in the mood at the time

>>7264210
I like the first two Old Man's war books, sue me

[Anonymous No.7264271]

>>7264253
I like Horus Heresy. Doesn't mean I want it on a recommended SF reading list.

[Anonymous No.7264289]

>>7264271
Ah. I understand.
I was mostly showing it as an example.
I would prefer a Naval Battle sub-genre than a general Military Sci-Fi, since so much sci-fi is military in a way.

[Anonymous No.7264459]

>>7264223
just go read Foundation, there is no need to read every Asimov
To be honest most of his stories drag a lot, even if they're pretty original for its time

[Anonymous No.7265140]

In honor of Marty's arrival, recommend me some time travel stuff.

Preferably (though by no means obligatorily) with a complex, but not convoluted plot and no bootstrap paradox bullshit.

[Anonymous No.7265142]

What's the best "standard" fantasy aside from LOTR? By which I mean young heroes teaming up and going on an adventure through a world they're exploring for the first time with the reader, with or without fantasy races. I'm reading The Eye of the World and it's just not cutting it for some reason; I'm thinking it's the shallow, unlikable characters (aside from Perrin and Nynaeve).

[Anonymous No.7265713]

>>7265142

You could try Codex Alera or the Belgariad for coming-of-age stuff

[Anonymous No.7265785]

>>7265142
Earthsea. It's better than Tolkein tbh

His Dark Materials too

[Anonymous No.7265803]

>>7265785
>His Dark Materials too

tipsfedora.jpg

[Anonymous No.7265808]

>>7265803
I don't really get it. It's a really deeply Catholic work even if it's critical of religion.

[Anonymous No.7265844]

Can someone recommend Asimov and Huxley tier writing of 2010 to 2015?

[Anonymous No.7265848]

>>7265844
You mean outdated and boring?

[Anonymous No.7266031]

>>7265848
I mean new and interesting. Really bored reading Asimov and Huxley's writing. Wan't new with same ideas but high quality stuff.

[Anonymous No.7266042]

>>7265848
I mean new and interesting. Really bored reading Asimov and Huxley's writing. Wan't new with same ideas but high quality stuff written between 2010 to 2015.

[Anonymous No.7266045]

>>7253230
The Ted Chiang story? Maybe I should read it, I've had it sitting on my shelf for a few weeks now.

[Anonymous No.7266067]

>>7260113
Why are old book covers so much better than modern ones?

[Anonymous No.7266077]

>>7266067
It's because mordern people tend to like old covers and vise versa. Science.

[Anonymous No.7266085]

Name some rad sci-fi authors of the decade.

[Anonymous No.7266144]

If I get an idea for a scifi story that I want to write, how can I know if it hasn't been done before? Or are ideas copied accidentally often just because of how much scifi comes out?

[Anonymous No.7266149]

>>7266144

Well, what's your idea?

[Anonymous No.7266180]

>>7266149
Nothing in particular I'm thinking of now, but occasionally one will hit me and my first thought is that I doubt its original (even thinking of something independently, once its published and you learn it's been done, what can you do?). I just wonder if that happens when people try releasing scifi. Fiction in general I guess, but scifi and fantasy seems especially popular right now.

[Anonymous No.7266223]

>>7266180

There's a million copycat stories out there and nobody cares.

As long as you don't rip off a big name like dune or androids dreaming of electric sheep nobody will give a shit.

The real challenge is making your story good beyond the original concept. That's where your worth as a writer will be revealed.

It's not about having an idea, it's about producing a story from that idea. In a way, that's a lot more unique than the idea itself.

[Anonymous No.7266240]

>>7266223
Neat, that's good to know anyhow. I don't really read scifi, or fiction in general, I just think of things all the time so I guess I could step on some toes without realizing it.

I'm not a good writer at all, I was just wondering really. I'm going to start working on it though when ideas come, just by cranking out crap for myself only to practice and checking out some writing guides also.

Thanks

[Anonymous No.7266251]

>>7264197
>Legacy Fleet

The hell is that?

>google

Oh it's Battlestar Galactica.

[Anonymous No.7266433]

>>7265785
After all Ursula was inpired by LotR.

[Anonymous No.7267504]

This was on page 8, why is /lit/ moving so gast nowadays?

[Anonymous No.7267535]

>>7264223
Robots of Dawn written much later than the other Robots books, and was sort of tacked on. Supposedly the awkward sexual content was in response to criticisms that his characters were too asexual.

To be honest, the only essential Asimov reading is Foundation. Just go straight to it.

[Anonymous No.7267547]

>>7265808
HDM was OK. I admit I was hooked by The Golden Compass, but Pullman couldn't hold it together as he increased the stakes and the scale.

Comparing it favorably to The Lord of the fucking Rings, or Earthsea for that matter, is absurd.

[Anonymous No.7267554]

>>7266144
The only way to know is to read huge amounts of sci-fi. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it--just write what you know and leave it to someone else. Even if you come up with the same concept as someone else, you'll probably execute it differently, and even if you don't, you'll probably have a different style.

Lots of even experienced writers will crank something out for an anthology by putting their own personal "spin" on a common trope. It's not a big deal unless you blatantly rip off something iconic.

Even if it's unpublishable because of similarity to existing work, you'll become a more experienced writer.

[Anonymous No.7267567]

>>7267547

I liked the first book but the rest of them were way too preachy. It felt like an exercise in the author espousing his views first, and a story second.

Also random stupid bad end for no reason.

[Anonymous No.7267581]

When is the new aspect emperor/second apocalypse/totally not ripping off the crusade chronicles book coming out?

I was hoping to read it in 2015.

[Anonymous No.7267606]

>>7267581
Apparently (and take this with a grain of salt) the first half of is coming out in July.

[Anonymous No.7267613]

>>7267606
How fucking hard is it to take a history book and replace all the real names with fake ones, sprinkling some elves for good measure?

[Anonymous No.7267722]

Nevermind the story and writer, I dare you to find better cover art than Mistborn's gollancz release.
you can't

[Anonymous No.7268261]

>>7247123
Yes. Flat characters, interesting setting and ideas, almost nonexistent personal dynamics, workmanlike prose. It's a good example of competent hard sci-fi. Despite its shortcomings I'm rather looking forward to reading the sequels.

[Anonymous No.7268278]

Is there such a thing as a fantasy novel focusing on a robot?

[Anonymous No.7268289]

>>7267722
The art looks good on his books I agree. Too bad they a shit.

[Anonymous No.7268290]

>>7267722
I like the consistent style between the gollancz editions of sandersons.

In book covers generally though I'd have to s

[Anonymous No.7268295]

Actually, better question

What are some of the best sci-fi/fantasy books
where the two genres are balanced wonderfully between eachother

[Anonymous No.7268297]

>>7268295
Dune.

[Anonymous No.7268323]

>>7265140
How about The Timemachine?

haven't read it, but i know basic story, and i don't think it's any complex or paradox

[Anonymous No.7268326]

>>7267722
Those are beautiful
His art reminds me of James Jeans art

[Anonymous No.7268367]

>>7266251
>Oh it's Battlestar Galactica.
hahaha, pretty much
the ship was even being converted into a museum piece

[Anonymous No.7268417]

>>7248828
Absolute horseshit.

[Anonymous No.7268603]

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2015/08/i-read-100-best-fantasy-and-sci-fi-novels-and-they-were-shockingly-offensive

[Anonymous No.7268639]

>>7267722
Cheerleader effect tbh fam, it wouldn't look as cool individually.

[Anonymous No.7268808]

>>7268603
is this satire? is this like the onion? anon?

[Anonymous No.7269449]

>>7258559
Probably my favorite series of books anon, just dont start with phebas and you might make it.

[Anonymous No.7269491]

>>7268278
Psalms of Isaak

[Anonymous No.7269499]

>>7267581
it'll come out right around the time the last sword and shadows book comes out, and when grrm finishes A song of Ice and Fire.

[Anonymous No.7269679]

>>7269499
>lel
Don't know of Sword and Shadow
But I know we will read the last GURM book when we join him in life after death

Is the Aspect Emperor the thousand cuck thought series?

[Anonymous No.7270931]

Can't believe i have to bump this.
So much more redshitor shit posters meme posting than usual.

[Anonymous No.7270988]

Anyone read this yet? I fucking loved it

[Anonymous No.7270996]

>>7270988

What's it about? Sell me on it.

[Anonymous No.7271067]

>>7265785

Earthsea was terrible in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.7271068]

Decide what I should read next, /sffg/

>The Fall of Hyperion
>Foundation
>The Eyes of the Overworld
>The Two Towers

[Anonymous No.7271076]

>>7271068

Foundation but only the first couple of books. The remainder of the series is nonsensical drug-addled garbage.

[Anonymous No.7271097]

Anyone here read After Life?

http://sifter.org/~simon/AfterLife/

It's about the story of the first trans-human mind being uploaded from a body to a computer.

[Anonymous No.7271153]

>>7271097
You ever read Neal Asher? Try some of his books.

[Anonymous No.7271274]

>>7267722
>What if the Dark Lord won?

[Anonymous No.7271605]

>>7271068
The Eyes of the Overworld man! Cugel trumps all.

[Anonymous No.7272028]

>>7270996
It's about an interplanetary future where people have been decided into colors and the "golds" rule over all of them. I know how that sounds but it completely shattered my expectations. The character writing, world building and setting is really good.

[Anonymous No.7272110]

A Borrowed Man is okay thus far. I hoped for more, but I like it more than the second half of long sun.

[Anonymous No.7272286]

>>7272028

So it's Divergent?

[Anonymous No.7272355]

>>7271068
Obviously finish LotR if you've already read Fellowship. Jesus Christ, dude.

[Anonymous No.7272371]

>>7268295
That's science fantasy. I always recommend The Gone-Away World by Nick Harkaway, it's fantastically underrated, but it's probably not what you're looking for.

Dark Tower
Richard Morgan's "A Land Fit For Heroes" books
And of course The Book of the New Sun
They're all science fantasy ie. they have robots and magic.

[Anonymous No.7272499]

>>7272286
It's not bland so no

[Anonymous No.7272746]

>>7255603
I mean, there's certainly more of a market and it's easier for authors established within the field to make a living at than most other forms of fiction, but that also means more people try to get published this way.

I don't have any data, but if I had to guess, fantasy publishers probably see more submissions per published book than most other kinds of publishers, not to mention that are only a handful of publishers in the fantasy business.

Think about it this way, typically only fantasy publishers will publish fantasy-genre work. However, just about any other kind of publisher will publish any other kind of work.

I guess what I'm trying to say if that you're an uninformed hack.

[Anonymous No.7272795]

What does /lit/'s sci-fi connoisseurs think about Iain Banks' Culture series?

[Anonymous No.7272898]

>>7272795
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Culture Series.

[Anonymous No.7272925]

>>7272371
>Richard Morgan's "A Land Fit For Heroes" books
Daily reminder this book is full gay, exquisite details about men putting their phallus in other men's anus.

[Anonymous No.7272929]

>>7272898
Do those things apply to the series? Where did it happen?

Can you explain it like this >>7251103 ?

[Anonymous No.7272935]

>>7272371
>I liked the rape, gay and incest in the A Land Fit For Heroes series

[Anonymous No.7272946]

>>7272925
>is full gay, exquisite details about men putting their phallus in other men's anus.
I was caught of guard by this, but it wasn't all that bad. Gotta read the other books.
Morgan can definitely write some good sex scenes.

[Anonymous No.7273108]

>>7269679
Yes. It's a continuation of the story 20 or so years after after 1k folded thought

[Anonymous No.7273115]

>>7272946
I can't handle it anymore. I don't want to start the past book and have to read more angry gay sex

[Anonymous No.7273287]

>>7272371
What IS some good sci-fantasy? We really need a chart for that.

Or rather, what is some hard sci-fi that does futurology so well like Revelation Space?

[Anonymous No.7273579]

>>7247104

Try K W Jeter - Infernal Devices (1987)

[Anonymous No.7273582]

>>7247123
Yes.
It is THAT good.

[Anonymous No.7273608]

>>7263904
>brilliant

agreed, anon.

[Anonymous No.7273913]

Any of you have read this? the times when someone mentions it it appears like shilling, but im interested.

[Anonymous No.7274012]

>>7273115
>>7272946
Is it realistic?

Do they take about shit coming out of the other guy's ass?
I mean you can't prep for it, so that means he has shit dick.

[Anonymous No.7274018]

>>7260113
Needs more Ballard and Lem, but p. good

[Anonymous No.7274036]

>writing my own fantasy
>realize it's just the witcher + berserk: nordic folklore edition

just fuck my shit up

[Anonymous No.7274082]

>>7274036
Once it has great world building, character depth, plot, character development and is told in a stable-easy flowing fashion you can make it work.

Nothing is original anymore, everything has been done. The trick is to make your idea wholly your own.

I've read many books and though "hey, this is something like [insert book] mixed with [insert movie] and a little bit of the character development in [insert comic]. But people still eat it up because the enjoyed it.

Write it, publish it and change as you grow in skill.

Jim Butcher and Brandon Sanderson's early works were so-so to down right repetitive, but if they can make it and become a internet name, you can too.

Work at it don't give up anon. There are little(imo) Nordic tales out there, everyone uses the Romans, Greeks and even Hindi gods as templates but I don't see much Nordic.

[Anonymous No.7274087]

Can anyone suggest some biopunk type stuff similar to Paul di Filippo's Fibofunk collection?

[Anonymous No.7274097]

>>7273913
I read like half of it.
I dunno, it was okay.
I'm not really into science fiction and I just couldn't get excited about it so I dropped it. I guess in all fairness, I was in the middle of finals so I just kind of forgot about it.

The writing is really good, though.
If you like sci-fi, you'll probably like it a lot.

[Anonymous No.7274120]

>>7274012
It's been awhile since i read it, but it's pretty graphic, as is all of Morgan's work.
From what i can recall MC mentions something about being able to smell a slight shit smell when either he or the other person (demon/alien thing) spreads their asshole.

[Anonymous No.7274452]

>>7274120
I wanted to read this novel for years, but the detailed buttsex puts me off from getting it every time.

Can't I have a book without the author fulling 100+ pages in with detailed sex?

If I want erotic I would use the dump i have saved.

[Anonymous No.7274618]

How do I into Vorkosigan Saga? It's a fucking mess.

[Anonymous No.7274744]

>>7265140
'The Door into Summer' actually does almost exactly the same timeframe.

Also if you're a fan of 11-year old girls and cats you'll probably like it.

[Anonymous No.7274750]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Headless

I liked this book if you're into sci-fi, body horror and dystopian futures. Surprisingly good ending too.

[Anonymous No.7275445]

>>7272935
Well meme'd, friend!

>>7273287
>I need a chart for everything
Bit autistic.

>>7272925
Those bits are easy to skip tbh.

[Anonymous No.7275655]

I just finished reading the naked sun. I have read too the caves of steel. I really enjoyed both, although the three laws dont hold all the coherence I expected.
What about the rest of the robot series? Are they this good, worth reading?

[Anonymous No.7275683]

>>7274618
You basically have three starting points.

Falling Free is set about 200 years before the events in the main saga. You can skip this easily, since it has relevance only well into the saga, and even then, you won't miss much if you haven't read this.

Shards of Honor is about Miles's mother and father, and how they met. Barrayar continues this at a later date.

The Warrior's Apprentice is the first Miles book.

So basically, unless you're a fanatical completist, start with either SoH or TWA. Whichever sounds interesting to you. I started with TWA and read in internal chronological order (from TWA on, mind you), and I enjoyed the series greatly.

[Anonymous No.7275712]

>>7274618
The answer is always to read in order of published date.

[Anonymous No.7275928]

Was Perdido Street Station ever published in hardcover for US English editions?

[Anonymous No.7276052]

>>7274618
>>7275683

>I started with TWA and read in internal chronological order (from TWA on, mind you), and I enjoyed the series greatly.

This. Books chronologically prior to TWA have a bit too much romance for my tastes, but TWA and subsequent books are pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.7276133]

Are these any good?

[Anonymous No.7276158]

>>7249708
Try googling "the clockwork rocket".

[Anonymous No.7276175]

>>7276133
why is the name of the author bigger than the title itself?

[Anonymous No.7276185]

>>7276133
well he handles short story's pretty well but i never have read a novel made by him,worth checking out still.the witcher universe is interesting

[Anonymous No.7276314]

>>7268295
Dune
The Book of the New Sun
John Carter of Mars, if you're willing to go Old School.

[Anonymous No.7276338]

>>7271068
You should finish The Lord of the Rings unless you just need to take a break, in which case you should definitely read The Eyes of the Overworld. Because holy lol that book is basically the diametric opposite of everything Tolkien was about in every way--subject matter, attitude, style. And it's an excellent read. If it doesn't get you into Vance, give up on him.

Foundation is good but you can tackle it later. Don't bother reading Hyperion sequels.

[Anonymous No.7276354]

>>7274036
Go for it man. Don't beat yourself up over your lack of ~originality~, because you're not trying to be some sperglord lit-fic author. Build a world and make it your own.

[Anonymous No.7276357]

>>7274744
God damn, I forgot about The Door Into Summer. Seconding the recommendation.

[Anonymous No.7276360]

Anybody here read Blindsight by Peter Watts?

[Anonymous No.7276388]

>>7276360
Yup. It finally took the title of "most depressing sci-fi story I've ever read" from Ellison.

[Anonymous No.7276555]

>>7276338
I have already ready the very first Dying Earth and I found it to be very enjoyable, though he used a lot of words I needed to look up.

[Anonymous No.7276660]

>>7276133
Yeah, they're okay. I like the way he handles all kinds of fantasy tropes, and he has his own kind of humour.
The short stories were better, though, and I recommend you to read those first if you want to have any idea what's going on in the novels, and understand some of the characters and references.
And as far as I know, the last couple of books haven't been officially translated in English yet. I at least read fan translations.

[Anonymous No.7276914]

>>7276133
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Witcher series.

[Anonymous No.7277376]

Daily reminder that if your book has a GRRM quote on its cover or anywhere else it's automatically trash.

[Anonymous No.7277465]

>>7248352

I'd be upset about this, but then I remember reading a biography on Lovecraft that basically described him as a neckbeard in a way.

[Anonymous No.7277576]

>>7276914
There was rape and incest but what of the gay?

[Anonymous No.7277621]

>>7264197
if you're going to read any Halo, stay away from anything with the Spartans, they're overblown into super heroes. Contact Harvest was great, the Forerunner series was good too.

[Anonymous No.7277699]

Say I wanted to write someone dunking himself into a vat of sulfuric acid. Only his upper body, particular his chest, head, and right arm. He can afford to live through this due to his healing factor. What would the effects be? How different would he look afterwards?

[Anonymous No.7277847]

This is the manliest series I've ever read. You spend 80% of the time reading about characters that are gruff, stoic and effective. Men ride off to battle with grim determination and all that, or glory in it like perfect vikings. Everyone is full of Sisu. Even the women are manly and face adversity head-on silently.

I kind of like it, actually.

[Anonymous No.7277868]

Scientology

no, really

[Anonymous No.7277980]

>>7269449
Considdy gets a lot of shit but it would make a great action movie or mass effect clone

[Anonymous No.7278009]

>>7249609
>that part where he kills the fake actor troupe for raping those girls

damn son.

[Anonymous No.7278116]

>>7249708
If you want nation building, read the Foundation series by Asimov

[Anonymous No.7278227]

>>7278009
Would any of you kind anons allow me to rape your 6/10 + sisters or mothers so i will be able to write about it?

I'm a kissless virgin, so you don't have to worry about disease. Of course i will come inside.

[Anonymous No.7278440]

>>7276175

I neved got this gripe. Surely the author is more integral to the book's quality than its title?

[Anonymous No.7278446]

>>7269449
>just dont start with phebas

Any reason for this? I got the three first books and I couldn't really get into the first one. Are the sequels more beginner-friendly?

[Anonymous No.7278640]

>>7278440
Just pet peeves and autism showing.

Ignore those anons that get worked up about it, could also be massive amounts of OCD

[Anonymous No.7279068]

>>7278446
More friendly in general I guess. Phlebas is a real downer.

[Anonymous No.7280383]

Anyone read Django Wexler?

Is he good?

[Anonymous No.7280432]

>>7276133
The only reason to ever read these instead of the hundreds of better similar books is if you are polish or a slav and suffer from that inbred nationalism they all share.

[Anonymous No.7280505]

>>7275712
Bujold herself seems to prefer internal chronology.

>>7275683
>>7276052
Thanks, I'll take that into consideration

[Anonymous No.7280571]

>>7249708
Paladin of Shadows heh

[Anonymous No.7280576]

Tfw there is anything by Gene Wolfe translated to your language.

[Anonymous No.7280615]

>>7280576
What faggot language do you speak, anon?

(upside down question mark like that faggot Jeb has) Que lingua de los maricones hablas, anon?

[Anonymous No.7280629]

>>7249708
There might be some in The Children of the Sky.
I have only just finished A Fire upon the Deep though so I can't be sure

[Anonymous No.7280644]

No mention of Charles Stross yet?
I recently finished Accelerando and The Rapture of the Nerds.
Both goor reads IMO

[Anonymous No.7280659]

>>7280644
*good

[Anonymous No.7280686]

>>7280615
brazilian portuguese

[Anonymous No.7281010]

How is this?

[Anonymous No.7281129]

>>7280644

What did you like about Accelerando? I read it recently and found it super boring, really lacking in both character and plot department.

[Anonymous No.7281657]

>read a post-Earth sci-fi book
>women are somehow the overwhelmingly majority sex
>humanity is still there

Why is this a thing? Women are irrational, govern on muh feelings, and haven't significantly contributed to scientific advancement for the last ten thousand years.

[Anonymous No.7281662]

>>7277847
It is a fucking great series.

Except for Ash. Ash is a whore. Fuck Ash.

[Anonymous No.7281717]

>>7280576
I'll start translating him into my language soon I hope

[Anonymous No.7281749]

>>7276388
the developers of SOMA recommended it together with "Permutation City" by Egan

[Anonymous No.7281968]

Whats a read that involves ruin exploration? I'm really into archaeology and shit, thats why...

[Anonymous No.7282219]

I thought /lit/ was a genre fiction free zone? Not that I'm complaining mind you.

[Anonymous No.7282563]

>>7282219
Been here for at least 5 years, got a shit load of recommendations when i asked before.

It's just the pretentious e/lit/ist that shit things up.

[Anonymous No.7282581]

>>7282219
It's a meme that newfags misunderstood.

[Anonymous No.7282623]

>>7280576
Read it in the original, you 7-1 faggot. The only possible translator for a Wolfe book would have to be someone who can properly translate Chesterton or Borges, and even at that, it'd still be a translation.

[Anonymous No.7282834]

>>7281657
>>women are somehow the overwhelmingly majority sex
>>humanity is still there
You mean how it is right now and it's leading to be?

[Anonymous No.7283154]

>>7258316
>Was loki really Odin's blood brother?
Depends on version. Mythology doesn't actually have a single canon.
>That means the comics are wrong?
When in doubt, assume the comics are wrong. Thor is supposed to be a redhead.
>Did loki really give birth to a horse....
Yes. He was a mare, and he gave birth to an eight legged horse.
>Did Freya really fuck maggots?
This one I don't know. I know she fucked some dwarves, but I don't think she did maggots. Possible, since Riordan does research his myths..

[Anonymous No.7283191]

>>7283154
we're dwarves supposed to be like maggots of the earth, always digging or something, and so saying she fucked maggots is the same as saying she fucked dwarves?

[Anonymous No.7283197]

>>7283191
weren't*

[Anonymous No.7283874]

where to start with china mieville?

[Anonymous No.7283877]

>>7283874
arms

[Anonymous No.7283985]

>>7282834
Name a first world woman leader who hasn't turned her country into a complete cesspool.

[Anonymous No.7283989]

>>7283874
probably The City & the City, maybe Embassytown. both are easier (and imo better) than his more maximalist work (the Bas-Lag series), which is still worth reading. but at least you'll get an idea of whether or not you're into him

[Anonymous No.7284018]

>>7273913
What's this about? Transhumanism?

[Anonymous No.7284044]

>>7281010
>>7281010
>>7281010
Terrific mate
I legitimately don't think I've ever read better dialogue. Every character is so immediately unique yet lifelike.
The plot is great too, but make sure you appreciate the dialogue.

[Anonymous No.7284110]

>>7252456
Coming of age is boring to write if you have no issues with your own coming of age.

[Anonymous No.7284161]

>>7283985
>bringing your sexist memes to the best thread on /lit/

[Anonymous No.7284176]

>>7283154
>This one I don't know. I know she fucked some dwarves, but I don't think she did maggots. Possible, since Riordan does research his myths..

No she fucked not some, but dozens of them, the maggot part was because Rick said Dwarves evolved from maggots.

[Anonymous No.7284229]

>>7283985
>not wanting a qt female leader leading the country
That's where you shitters are wrong.

[Anonymous No.7284292]

I've never read anything by him and about to start this. Am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.7284293]

>>7284292
No it's standalone but there are eastereggs for cosmere fans.

[Anonymous No.7284307]

>>7246345
>kingkiller not in this list yet even something as shit as the assassin's apprentice is
Why does /lit/ hate this book? It's really not bad

[Anonymous No.7284446]

>>7284307
It's a god piece of absolute garbage. That does not mean Assassin's Apprentice is better.

[Anonymous No.7284494]

>>7284229
I want to fuck Angela Merkel so bad.... my dick hurts.

[Anonymous No.7284495]

>>7284292
I slogged through the first two books and I thought it was mediocre at best and way too slow. A lot of slow very boring parts, and not at all revolutionary. I don't recommend it. Although when the third book comes out I'll probably read that one too just to see what happens.

There are some really cool parts in it, but it's too much padding. I get that he's trying to start each novel slow and make it build slowly to a big climax like an avalanche, but man is some of it boring. Cool fight scenes tho.

[Anonymous No.7284505]

So when does this get good? I'm already halfway through this doorstop.

I just wanted to read something that would tide me over until The Winds Of Winter came out. Should I keep going or just drop it and read The Dagger And The Coin instead?

[Anonymous No.7284509]

>>7284292
I really liked it. What's opinion do you guys have?

[Anonymous No.7284510]

>>7284505
It's awful.

[Anonymous No.7284516]

>>7284510
Ok. I'll drop it. Do you guys recommend The Dagger And The Coin?

I've been using this website to help me find something to read while I wait for the new ASOIAF book:

http://bestfantasybooks.com/top25-fantasy-books.php

But I tried Malazan, hated that, tried Stormlight Archives, hated that, tried Kingkiller, hated that. Can anyone recommend something that's actually as good as ASOIAF?

[Anonymous No.7284527]

>>7284516
None of those are good.
But good fantasy authors include Wolfe, Le Guin, Zelanzy, Fritz Leiber, Tolkien. I recommend Lankhmar series by Leiber.

[Anonymous No.7284543]

Is there a good book where they journey into someone's dreams?

[Anonymous No.7284544]

>>7284527
I tried reading Book Of The New Sun and couldn't make heads or tales of it - the writing was excellent though. I'll try it in a bit, but I think it's too advanced for me atm tbh fam. I'm an entry level fantasy guy. I started with ASOIAF.

I don't want to read classics in this particular genre. I want to read stuff without good guys and bad guys. I fucking HATE Tolkien (yes, I know he influenced GRRM)

I love classics in regular literature, like Tolstoy and Chekhov, but in terms of pure entertainment value plot and character based reading for fun, I need a modern author for fantasy.

[Anonymous No.7284552]

>>7284516
Going through that list was painful, only Leiber, Le Guin and Tolkien were good, piled with the rest of YA/manchild trash

[Anonymous No.7284570]

>>7284552
It sounds like you're a fantasy elitist tbh fam. I love ASOIAF and want something like that, and there's nothing you can do about it. Tolkien fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.7284573]

Has anyone read Charles Stross' Glasshouse? Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.7284578]

>>7284570
Tolkien is just about as good fantasy can get.
But yeah since you don't like good fantasy I guess that list can work.

[Anonymous No.7284596]

>>7284578

That's pushing it. LOTR is good, but most of its goodness is formative. It defines concepts and earnestly turns them into a fantasy narrative and it laid a lot of important groundwork.

But honestly it's pretty simplistic, black-and-white stuff in a world that isn't particularly memorable except that it's the foundation of so much more.

[Anonymous No.7284605]

>>7284516
Have you considered that maybe you don't actually like fantasy?

[Anonymous No.7284630]

>>7284605
Yes. Like I said, I'm entry level. Although, when I read Stormlight, my favourite parts were the fantastical parts, with their magic powers and flying and stuff, and my least favourite parts were the human interaction/dialogue, character elements. With ASOIAF, it's the opposite.

[Anonymous No.7284633]

>>7284505
>until The Winds Of Winter came out.
So you will be reading books to past time until you die?

>read The Dagger And The Coin instead?
Just like the Long Price Quartet was, The Dagger and Coin is historical fiction with "SMALL" hints of magic and the fantastical.

It was shit for me, but if you like history with a few glimpses of the magical(which is what GURM does) you can go for it.

[Anonymous No.7284637]

>>7283874
Perdido Street Station

[Anonymous No.7284640]

>>7284638
New Thread

[Anonymous No.7284647]

>>7284509
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Stormlight Series.

[Anonymous No.7284652]

>>7284544
Joe Abercrombie might be for you, start with The Blade Itself.

[Anonymous No.7284680]

Read the book before you force the meme.

Seeing as it is Sanderson, there was no Rape or Incest... probably gay? I don't know.

I thought Shallan's secret was that her father diddled her. Had a hard on waiting for the reveal.
IT NEVER CAME

[Anonymous No.7284837]

>>7280383
>Django Wexler
I've only read the first book in the Shadow Campaign series and it's pretty good. I remember specially liking the the MC's. Gotta read the rest of the series

[Anonymous No.7285397]

>>7281662
Upset she cucked your self insert with hot snow elf dick?

[Anonymous No.7286168]

>>7270988
I have that sitting on my shelf, but I still haven't touched it assuming it's YA shit. Damn, I need to check it out then.

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>>7284292
best fantasy i read in a decade
1000 pages and 1000 too short

reading a well written story set in a original world which isnt filled by tryhard edgy characters with now popular "gray" morals and a protagonist you can really understand was breath of fresh i really needed

it takes everything i love about the genre, the unique settings history and creatures, the feel of adventure and scale and does it right

i fucking swear if i read one more book about someone so fucking gray that he is basically a psychotic serial killer like under the read seas or shadow of a torturer i will ignore all other authors till this plague of shitty writing rolls over