/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7230526]

I must admit that I had to stop at around page 150 and that I could not read this book to the end, thing that I try hard to avoid doing.
Firstly, I could not stand the just-under-the-surface sexism and chauvinism of the text. This might be, to some extent, somewhat forgivable in a masterpiece like Asimov's Foundation series (IMO), but when appearing in a lesser book, and especially when compounded with other issues, it becomes a showstopper.
The characters are monochromatic shallow caricatures to which I could not even begin to relate, the plot is frankly boring, not in the least credible, and quite predictable.
At page 150 I was left wondering what the heck I was doing wasting my time on this cultural fossil out of the fortunately bygone period when, as it appears in the book, the greatest aspiration of women was to obtain the admiration of the available alpha male or, even better, get a marriage proposal.

[Anonymous No.7230536]

I must admit you're a fag. Go read twilight.

[Anonymous No.7230540]

>>7230526
>what the heck

[Anonymous No.7230541]

>dropping books, let alone any long-form piece of media

[Anonymous No.7230732]

lwl

[Anonymous No.7230743]

>>7230526
>bygone period
>when the greatest aspiration of women was to obtain the admiration of the available alpha male

This period is right now (and yesterday, and probably tomorrow for a while still) you uneducated retard.

[Anonymous No.7232441]

>>7230526
It was a different time, you shouldn't base your opinions on an older book based on modern principals.

That being said this book was pretty fucking stupid on its own merit.

[Anonymous No.7232449]

>>7230526
this is the shittiest review i've ever read.

[Anonymous No.7232454]

>>7230526
Is this your first Heinlein?

[Anonymous No.7232456]

>>7230526
I read the first Foundation book, didn't notice any sexism, and I'm pretty SJW-y. Care to expand on that?

[Anonymous No.7233527]

>>7232456

tell me you're trolling, please.

[Anonymous No.7233544]

>reading genre fiction

You had it coming kike

[Anonymous No.7233569]

>>7230526
>He can't suspend his moral beliefs so he can appreciate all the literature composed in different moral systems.
>He stuck with literature that respects 20th century secular moral sensibilities.

What do you want, fucker? A trigger warning every time a woman falls in love with a strong, intelligent and beautiful man?

[Anonymous No.7233591]

>>7230526
If you want weird sex in your SF read Delany, not Heinlein.

[Anonymous No.7233637]

The book focuses on the adaptation of a human born in an entirely alien culture from any one on Earth, to a futuristic version of the American 1950s, with a focus on religious and cultural exploitation by the major religion in the book, the Fosterites. The sexism comes from the fact that the book was written in the fifties and by a male author, but that's no reason to discredit the novel's literary merit. In my opinion the dialogue is witty to the point of incredibility, but that doesn't make it any less fun to read. I just have to realize that I'm not necessarily going to relate to any of the quick, light-hearted puns and verbal blows traded between characters, because people don't actually speak like that. Nevertheless, the novel is based on an extraordinary person in extraordinary circumstances, so of course the plot isn't going to be entirely credible, but that doesn't mean that the characters will be entirely unrelatable.

Your review sucks and so do you. Appreciate the book for its merit as a story and reflection on religion, and try to get over what might come across as outdated values or portrayals of certain demographics.

[Anonymous No.7233676]

I actually agree with the review. This book was basically unreadable. He isn't a nuanced or empathetic writer.

>>7233637
>just read for the plot

Pleb detected.

[Anonymous No.7233678]

I don't get the sexism criticism. Is every book supposed to have a strong female lead or something?

[Anonymous No.7233679]

Also, the "it was the 50s" excuse is stupid. Just because asperger SF tards wrote women shittily doesn't mean every author did.

[Anonymous No.7233682]

>>7233678
No, but the characters should be realistic. Heinlein and Asimov read like they've never talked to a female in their lives.

[Anonymous No.7233692]

>>7233527
>trolling

[Anonymous No.7233695]

>>7233637
>people don't speak like that.
Maybe if you're in high school, kid.