Brilliant authors with shit-tier fans.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 3 04:40:42 2015 No.7188378 [Reply] [Original]

Brilliant authors with shit-tier fans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 04:48:00 2015 No.7188392 very specific thread tbh

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 04:51:25 2015 No.7188396 File: 153 KB, 1280x715, vonnegut2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Look at my Vonnegut asterisk tattoo! Isn't it random? So it goes!

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:02:41 2015 No.7188412

>>7188378

To be honest, I actually don't consider Orwell to be that great. I enjoyed animal farm and 1984, but these books are just blatant anti stalinist/authoritarian propaganda. I generally prefer more in-depth and indirect literature like Kafka or Joyce.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:04:08 2015 No.7188417 File: 59 KB, 435x600, tolkien.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7188378 10000% this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:04:28 2015 No.7188419 >>7188396 But that's an anus, anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:08:10 2015 No.7188424 >>7188378 >Brilliant >George-Orwell-_2751719b.jpg Nice use of irony OP

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:10:48 2015 No.7188429 >>7188378 bukowski

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:12:58 2015 No.7188433 Joyce

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:13:26 2015 No.7188434 David Foster Wallace

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:13:41 2015 No.7188436 >>7188417 Most Tolkien fans are pseudos, they often haven't read anythong after the first 100 pages of LotR

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:15:27 2015 No.7188437 >>7188436 This. I haven't met anybody who has read his masterpiece the Silmarillion

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:16:19 2015 No.7188440 >>7188437 why is this so awesome

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:17:24 2015 No.7188444 >>7188437 I've met myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:21:23 2015 No.7188452 >>7188412 I actually agree, Orwell is overrated and over-hyped. It's probably because so popular because so many teenagers read it in high-school

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:23:51 2015 No.7188454 >>7188452 true he's overrated, but it's a meme to hate this book on /lit/ >le i didn't like it because i was forced to read it in high school and i secretly hate reading xd

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:27:42 2015 No.7188459 File: 246 KB, 665x341, grrm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Try to prove me wrong. Pro-tip: You can't

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:28:39 2015 No.7188462 >>7188459 Why did you put "can't" behind a spoiler?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:29:09 2015 No.7188465 >>7188462 Because you can't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:29:59 2015 No.7188467 Anything that's good but that also high schoolers know about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:31:04 2015 No.7188469 >>7188465 Yes I can. See? Just did it. Pretty easy, to be honest....

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:31:30 2015 No.7188470 >>7188452 >>7188412 >>7188378 >tfw no one realises that Orwell's best book is his non-fiction Homage to Catalonia

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:31:42 2015 No.7188471 Chuck Palahniuk, but only Rant and maybe Choke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:31:51 2015 No.7188472 >>7188469 You're retarded tbh fam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:33:20 2015 No.7188474 >>7188472 And you're abusing the spoiler feature. You realize that's against the rules, right? I could report you for it, but I don't think that's worthwhile, as it's not particularly egregious crime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:35:05 2015 No.7188478 >>7188474 Thanks anon :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:36:24 2015 No.7188479 >>7188452 No one I know who has been through high school recently has read this book (which is everyone I know, I'm 20)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:38:18 2015 No.7188484 >>7188479 maybe we're oldfags now what did you guys read in high school

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:45:22 2015 No.7188500 >>7188484 Mostly less sophisticated books like lord of the flies, animal farm, to kill a mockingbird, great Gatsby, etc. Nothing like Joyce or Kafka

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:48:06 2015 No.7188507 File: 59 KB, 695x641, Robert E Howard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wanna say Capitan Fedora, but he isn't exactly brilliant either. But oh are his fans the worst.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:51:21 2015 No.7188514 >>7188378 I agree with the shit-tier fans, but Orwell isn't brilliant. He's good, not great. >>7188396 >Brilliant author Agree with the shit fans though. >>7188417 Finally, a real one. Not that I've read Tolkien much.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:57:47 2015 No.7188525 >>7188470 I realise, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 06:11:10 2015 No.7188537 File: 5 KB, 259x194, nitch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't think of anyone who fits the description more than this man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 06:46:46 2015 No.7188585 File: 375 KB, 639x910, Karl_Marx_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7188378 This man for sure.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 07:19:01 2015 No.7188627
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The Beats generally are good writers undermined today by legions of spoiled young fans who reduce their writing and how they live to "I'm superior and enlightened for my rich kid tourism"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 07:31:01 2015 No.7188642 >>7188518 Does he even have fans?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 07:38:12 2015 No.7188654 File: 8 KB, 286x289, plath.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7188378 tbh

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 07:43:31 2015 No.7188657 File: 8 KB, 259x194, nie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7188537 This

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 07:43:32 2015 No.7188658

>>7188537
Fuck Nietzsche, literal meme philosopher

>>7188585
This. This so fucking hard. It sucks too because the dumbfuck soviets essentially ruined any chance of the west ever adopting anything close to mainstream marxism. Now what we get is massive as fuck multinational corporations that divvy up all of the mass media between the 6 of themselves.

Seriously though, fuck all of you for ruining one of the greatest philosophers of all time and making his name synonymous with the devil

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 08:25:21 2015 No.7188709 File: 7 KB, 183x275, plato.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Obviously Plato

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 08:47:50 2015 No.7188755 File: 13 KB, 260x217, 54cbf3dafde9250a6c402eec_image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:17:59 2015 No.7188827

so far all I've learned is that authors are usually better than their fans

and why should it be otherwise? the important thing is not think about fandom when you think about literature. because fandom is a mostly meaningless mental image of 'this is what you are if you like X', a totally useless way of thinking which will only ever dissuade you from enjoying things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:20:44 2015 No.7188834 >>7188654 Kek, derivative, manipulative look at muh depression lady >>7188470 better than road to wigan tier part I? >>7188585 /thread

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:30:15 2015 No.7188852 >>7188840 Yep. This guy. He writes about SO MUCH, but all anyone can say when they read him is "le eldritch cthulhu!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:32:27 2015 No.7188860 >>7188852 don't forget "muh tentacles" and "he so racist"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:39:38 2015 No.7188882 >>7188840 >Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu Cthulhu It's all they fucking know about his writing. So shameful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:42:27 2015 No.7188890 >Orwell >Fans High school English teachers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:44:42 2015 No.7188895 >>7188417 When the movies started coming out I realized a special treasure of my childhood was about to be raped repeatedly by popular culture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:45:44 2015 No.7188898 >>7188437 >Im the only person I know who read The Children of Hurin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:48:11 2015 No.7188901 >>7188437 >Silmarillion >Good You might as well just read the Bible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:49:32 2015 No.7188904 >>7188378 >Orwell >brilliant He very, very much deserves his shit fans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:50:06 2015 No.7188905 >>7188437 Ken I went backpacking with a random group of people once, and of the 8 people, there of us had red the Silmarillion and 5 had red the Lord of the Rings. Good times

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:52:22 2015 No.7188911 >>7188658 Because eating up the libprop is doing wonders for furthering Marxism amirite? %)

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:54:33 2015 No.7188913
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>>7188901

If you think the Bible an the Silmarillion are the same, you haven't read either

>>7188898
I actually started reading it, but I stopped after 3 chapters. I wanted to read more from Tolkien after I finished everything else, but it felt like a weak version of the Hobbit

Pic related

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:56:17 2015 No.7188918 >>7188913 I've read both. They are both bunch of vague long winded stories about creation and bunch of other things no sane person would care about knowing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:01:25 2015 No.7188925 >>7188913 Funny how the Children of Hurin isn't even published in the same style as the others

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:16:57 2015 No.7188960 >>7188918 Both the bible and the Silmarillion aren't really about cold hard memorization and knowing the specific facts, but it's about grasping the complexity of a troubled world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:18:32 2015 No.7188964 >>7188412 >>7188452 >>7188470 Read his essay collections

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:23:19 2015 No.7188973 File: 41 KB, 600x579, Comfy_guy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7188960 this guy gets it >>7188905 sound like a comfy trip :3

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:39:47 2015 No.7189001 >>7188755 This, he is an incredible journalist and fantastic writer. It's a shame he is mostly known for his status as one of the Four Horsemen, when he has spend most of his career writing about issues unrelated to religion.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:40:32 2015 No.7189004

Really most of the shit that some people bash on /lit/, typically because it is associated with pretentious try-hards, are things that most people aren't familiar with. Say what you will about the quality of 1984 as a novel but some of the concepts explored in that book with an almost ominous "what if" kind of air are basic realities of modern life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:44:48 2015 No.7189020 >>7188755 > taking a picture of yourself while shaving and smoking a cigarette What a fucking try-hard

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 11:23:41 2015 No.7189111 >>7188378 Orwell is great (his essays are, at least), but I wouldn't say he is brilliant. His fans are really shitty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 11:26:34 2015 No.7189114 >>7188470 Bingo

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 11:58:30 2015 No.7189187 >>7188462 it's a meme you dip

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 12:22:01 2015 No.7189243 >>7188500 >Great Gatsby >less sophisticated Read it again. And again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:07:12 2015 No.7189355 >>7188658 Marxism is retarded anyways. Thank god this sterile ideology will soon be a footnote in the history of failed ideologies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:53:23 2015 No.7189482 File: 98 KB, 500x375, lot49.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >no Pynchon yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:06:01 2015 No.7189519 File: 43 KB, 480x359, Nietzsche1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7188657 stop posting sh00ped photos anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:08:16 2015 No.7189527 >>7188904 underrated post

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:12:26 2015 No.7189541 >>7188755 typical edgy neckbeard trying too hard. Was a shit-tier journalist who ruined atheism with his fanaticism and was more concerned with creating controversies to stay relevant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:13:58 2015 No.7189546 File: 41 KB, 600x481, nietz horse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7188537 >tfw no one understands him

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:23:14 2015 No.7189564 >>7188627 >5'9 lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 19:41:12 2015 No.7190653 >>7189546 >Nietzsche >>>/mlp/

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 19:55:02 2015 No.7190709 pynchon, mccarthy, delillo, nabakov

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:14:08 2015 No.7190764 >>7188396 Accurate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 09:22:37 2015 No.7192375 >>7190687 Can't believe she wasn't posted sooner.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 09:29:38 2015 No.7192385 >>7188585 This and many of the commie/anarcho authors. Seems like all their fans want is to push their own agenda.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 10:54:44 2015 No.7192582 >>7189482 >I READ IT AND IT WAS SO FUNNY AND HE LIKE MENTIONED ACID ONCE LMAO

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 11:27:34 2015 No.7192677 >>7188898 I read that book probably eight years ago. I don't remember a single character surviving the ending, either by murder or suicide.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 11:35:31 2015 No.7192706 >>7190687 >>7192375 >brilliant author

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:00:22 2015 No.7193163 >>7188898 God that book was good. Best thing Tolkien ever wrote.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:40:11 2015 No.7193331 >>7189355 >I sure do love me some unjustified hierarchies >Thank the lord for my 9-5 >There's literally no alternative to capitalism lul, its just human nature XD

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 15:30:42 2015 No.7193610 >>7193331 Have you solved the economic calculation problem? Also do you consider the collective over the individual a heiarchy, what about a teacher to student, Doctor patient. Or are you against heiarchies that don't benefit you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 23:42:46 2015 No.7195524 >>7188840 >>7188852 >>7188860 >>7188882 I actually came to Lovecraft the shit out of this post. Glad I'm not the only one.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:04:04 2015 No.7195702 >>7188470 My nigga. Finding out that non-fiction is what made Orwell great is a big step towards patricianship.

>>	green !YOUlQWt3s6 Mon Oct 5 02:45:44 2015 No.7195882 >>7188840 He looks like adam Lanza

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:13:24 2015 No.7196484 Pynchon fans tend to be pretty cool, in my experience.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:32:46 2015 No.7196516

>>7188514
When you say Orwell was good, not great, I'm interested as to hearing why. Not that I disagree, but Orwell is frequently, if not constantly at the top of those author lists. I'm not very clued-up on literature on what differs the good from the great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:34:24 2015 No.7196520 >>7188658 >making his name synonymous with the devil Hello, America. Are you excited to read Liu Mingfu's "The Twilight of Hegemony"? (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/asia/chinese-colonels-hard-line-views-seep-into-the-mainstream.html))

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 12:38:38 2015 No.7196931 >no Hitler yet

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 12:43:22 2015 No.7196942 >>7188585 /thread most supporters are shit and most opponents are shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 12:45:03 2015 No.7196944 >>7196931 because he was a shit-tier author with even shittier-tier fans

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:47:56 2015 No.7197079

>>7188471
>>7188537
>>7188840
These.
>>7188585
Kind of the opposite in my opinion--I think he has better fans than he deserves. And a lot of works and authors in the Marxian tradition are very interesting albeit flawed because of their acceptance of Marx.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:50:11 2015 No.7197084 >>7188429 Nah. Bukowski fans fit the Bukowski just right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:52:48 2015 No.7197088 Children of Hurin would make a very good "serious" potentially R rated film if Jackson did it in the same method as The Two Towers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:57:09 2015 No.7197094 >>7188658 >implying any form of government can touch the greatness of absolute monarchy due to the human condition. Why even try honestly? Too many plebs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:58:58 2015 No.7197097 >>7197094 A Board of Directors structure with a CEO wielding absolute power that is by necessity delegated to internal presidents and vice-presidents would be interesting to watch. Then it would be the MBAs, not the lawyers who would run the world.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 14:33:24 2015 No.7197201

>>7197097
>A Board of Directors structure with a CEO wielding absolute power that is by necessity delegated to internal presidents and vice-presidents would be interesting to watch.
This already exists--it's called the Westminster system. It's not measurably different in terms of first-order policy outcomes.

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