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There's only about a week left. Who's it gonna be?

>> No.7182016

Pynchon, obviously...

>> No.7182019

>>7182012
I don't give a shit. A committee that rewards Donna Tart yet snubs Borges isn't worth anyone's time

>> No.7182022
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7182022

I am thorn between him and Felicia Day.

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7182023

It could be but is not limited to one of these people.

>> No.7182027

>>7182012
>The chief character never held back from discussing with the other persons in the upstairs flat the details of the banquets and the orgies in the building of several storeys, but he was never able to imagine himself as taking part in an orgy. Whenever the chapel of the building of several storeys appeared as an image in his mind, it was always fitted with a so-called side-chapel, a sort of alcove with a few pews to one side of the alter. If an orgy seemed about to begin, he would slip unnoticed into the front per of the side-chapel and would there masturbate quietly while he watched the goings-on in the sanctuary

If Murnane doesn't win it this award is a sham

>> No.7182046

I hope it's Nicanor Parra because that will be their first centenarian winner.

>> No.7182054

If Pynchon doesn't get it before he dies you can just start ignoring the award

>> No.7182059

>>7182054
>>7182016
they're not going to give it to him because he probably won't even show up to accept it

>> No.7182064

>>7182059

Just another reason he deserves it

>> No.7182078

>>7182012
A woman should get it.
I mean come on people, its 2015!

>> No.7182106

>>7182078
Pretty much everyone who deserves it is a man. Can't think of any females, TBH.

>> No.7182119

>>7182106
All the more reason to give it to a woman, since if everybody involved is a man there is a need for a change, etc.

>> No.7182127

>>7182059
Didn't stop them from giving it to Sartre, who had been refusing awards for about 20 years before the Nobel.

>> No.7182128

>>7182119
Not if they're just gonna keep sucking at writing.

>> No.7182133

>>7182078
Hear, hear! Men have been awarded and overrepresented for centuries. Let's give the women a turn. Women read more than men nowadays anyway, so it makes a lot more sense to award a woman.

>> No.7182135

>>7182128
>responding sincerely to ironic shitposting

Is this an attempt at New sincerity? I can't tell anymore

>> No.7182141

>>7182127
>sartre
another reason nobody should take the prize seriously

>> No.7182145

>>7182133
Yeah, they read more garbage, lol.

>> No.7182150

It's going to be someone /lit/ has never heard of. It always is.

>> No.7182152

>>7182150
We'd definitely heard of Alice Munro, I think. SHe was probably the last remaining female who deserved the award, as well.

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7182169

It's my time

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7182183

Will he ever receive it?

>> No.7182198

>>7182183
even ugly nordics are beautiful fml

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7182207

>>7182183
>you will never EVER be Knausgaard's protegé

>> No.7182216

ROTH
O----T
T----O
HTOR

>> No.7182227

They won't announce a winner this year.

>> No.7182232

>>7182227
Any reasoning for this?

>> No.7182235

>>7182183
the swedes hate him, so don't think so. atleast not before is old and irrelevant

>> No.7182244

>>7182232
No one of any discernible talent to give it too.

>> No.7182246

>>7182244
That never stopped them before.

>> No.7182279

Adunis. Arab nationalism is the perfect way to break up their accused left bias without breaking it up in any way.

>> No.7182288

>>7182183
These days no one gets it until they're at least 60.

>> No.7182292

Me, to be completely honest.

>> No.7182294

>>7182183
He would hate it. Or at least pretend that he hates it.

I'm hoping for
John Ashberry
Ngugi wa Thiong'o - if it's going to be a token African who wins the prize it might as well be him.
Peter Handke - never going to happen.
Milan Kundera - I can't believe he is still alive.
Laszlo Krasznahorka

>> No.7182320

>>7182294
>Peter Handke

would be glorious, all those liberal tears

>> No.7182327

>>7182279
He's also an anti-Assad pacifist, and purportedly the most important modern Arabic poet of the modern era. He seems like the obvious choice, which is probably why he won't get it.

>> No.7182330

>>7182294
Thiong'o just seems like a second rate rip-off of a Latin Boom writer with an African flavour. I reckon that if it goes to an African it will more likely be Farah. He has already won the Neustadt, after all.

>> No.7182585

Y'all seen the Nobel Institute's reading list?

Chinua Achebe, Things Fall Apart
Hans Christian Andersen, Fairy Tales and Stories
Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
Honore de Balzac, Old Father Goriot
Samuel Beckett, Trilogy: Molloy, Malone Dies, The Unnamable
Giovanni Boccaccio, Decameron
Jorge Luis Borges, Collected Fictions
Emily Bronte, Wuthering Heights
Albert Camus, The Stranger
Paul Celan, Poems
Louis-Ferdinand Celine, Journey to the End of the Night
Miguel de Cervantes, Don Quixote
Geoffrey Chaucer, Canterbury Tales
Anton Chekhov, Selected Stories;
Thousand and One Nights
Joseph Conrad, Nostromo
Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
Denis Diderot, Jacques the Fatalist and His Master
Alfred Doblin, Berlin Alexanderplatz
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment; The Idiot; The Possessed; The Brothers Karamazov
George Eliot, Middlemarch
Ralph Ellison, Invisible Man
Euripides, Medea
William Faulkner, Absalom, Absalom; The Sound and the Fury
Gustave Flaubert, Madame Bovary; A Sentimental Education
Federico Garcia Lorca, Gypsy Ballads
Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude; Love in the Time of Cholera
Anon, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust
Nikolai Gogol, Dead Souls
Günter Grass, The Tin Drum
Joao Guimaraes Rosa, The Devil to Pay in the Backlands
Knut Hamsun, Hunger
Ernest Hemingway, The Old Man and the Sea
Homer, The Iliad; The Odyssey
Henrik Ibsen, A Doll's House
Anon, The Book of Job
James Joyce, Ulysses
Franz Kafka, The Complete Stories; The Trial; The Castle

>> No.7182588

>>7182585
Kalidasa, The Recognition of Sakuntala
Yasunari Kawabata, The Sound of the Mountain
Nikos Kazantzakis, Zorba the Greek
D. H. Lawrence, Sons and Lovers
Halldor K. Laxness, Independent People
Giacomo Leopardi, Complete Poems
Doris Lessing, The Golden Notebook
Astrid Lindgren, Pippi Longstocking
Lu Xun, Diary of a Madman and Other Stories
Anon, Mahabharata
Naguib Mahfouz, Children of Gebelawi
Thomas Mann, Buddenbrooks; The Magic Mountain
Herman Melville, Moby Dick
Michel de Montaigne, Essays
Elsa Morante, History
Toni Morrison, Beloved
Murasaki Shikibu, The Tale of Genji
Robert Musil, The Man Without Qualities
Vladimir Nabokov, Lolita; Njal's Saga
George Orwell, 1984
Ovid, Metamorphoses
Fernando Pessoa, The Book of Disquiet
Edgar Allan Poe, The Complete Tales
Marcel Proust, Remembrance of Things Past
Francois Rabelais, Gargantua and Pantagruel
Juan Rulfo, Pedro Paramo
Jalalu'l-Din Rumi, The Mathnawi
Salman Rushdie, Midnight's Children
Sheikh Saadi of Shiraz, The Bostan of Saadi (The Orchard)
Tayeb Salih, A Season of Migration to the North
Jose Saramago, Blindness
William Shakespeare, Hamlet; King Lear; Othello
Sophocles, Oedipus the King
Stendhal, The Red and the Black
Laurence Sterne, The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy
Italo Svevo, Confessions of Zeno
Jonathan Swift, Gulliver's Travels
Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace; Anna Karenina; The Death of Ivan Ilyich and Other Stories
Mark Twain, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Valmiki, Ramayana
Virgil, The Aeneid
Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass
Virginia Woolf, Mrs Dalloway; To the Lighthouse
Marguerite Yourcenar, Memoirs of Hadrian

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>>7182585
>>7182588

tfw i've read a good portion of these and i'm a jobless bum

>> No.7182615

>>7182585
I guess Achebe was supposed to be their African laureate but they waited too long and now they're stuck with Thiong'o or Farah.

>> No.7183074

>>7182585
>>7182588
this is a great list tbqh

>> No.7183646

>>7182588
>>7182585
Not enough poets

>> No.7184600

>>7182585
>>7182588
Poets they could add:

English: Donne, Pope, Blake, Wordsworth, Shelley, Keats, Tennyson
Irish: Yeats
American: Dickinson, Stevens, Eliot
French: La Fontaine, Racine, Nerval, Baudelaire, Rimbaud, Valery
German: Schiller, Rilke
Italian: Petrarch, Montale
Spanish: Quevedo, Gongora, Cernuda
Latin American: Dario, Neruda, Paz
Portuguese: Camoes
Russian: Pushkin, Akhmatova
Chinese: Li Bai, Du Fu
Japanese: Basho

That might seem like a lot to add, but I would think there should be about as many poets included as prose writers. As it is, there are about 50 prose writers and 20 poets, so I think adding about 30 is fair.

>> No.7184692

>>7182585
>>7182588
OK apparently this isn't actually a "reading list", but the results of a poll of various authors (very few of which were poets, of course), and it was done by a Norwegian organization responsible for the Peace Prize, and that has nothing to do with the Literature Prize, as far as I can tell

>> No.7184851

it'll be me i wrote some good stuff and got it actually published its available on amazon ebooks heres a sample

Genevieve shouldered the small bundle which contained all that she owned and walked nervously but purposefully away from a life that had, at first, seemed too good to be true: it had been more than she could ever have hoped for that the ruggedly handsome Count Baden-Falkenhausenmann would have asked for her--his maid and nanny to his four children borne to him by his beloved wife Griselda who had died years ago under mysterious circumstances involving a runnaway horse and a ladle--hand in marriage, but she knew that, though she had long loved him from afar, allowed her maidenly eyes to linger on his dark, brooding countenance and the chiseled scar that seemed only to lend excitement and mystery to an already compelling visage, she could never marry him for her honor would never allow her to accede to his exotic sexual demands--no, no matter how she much she longed for him, she simply wouldn't go down for the Count.

>> No.7184861

>>7182019
Are u thinking of the pulitzer?

>> No.7184895

>>7184861
That post was probably a troll, Anonymous.

>> No.7185603

Fucking this >>7182046

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7185610

Probably some literally who unknown writer from not-Europe or not-America, either a woman or an ethnic minority or both. Calling it now.

>> No.7185688

>>7185610
ISIS-chan is cute. CUTE!

>> No.7185773

why are people so afraid of women/nonwhite winners when that barely ever occurs? Do they really hate female writers that much?

Anyway, it's clearly Adonis. Kundera would be good too

>> No.7185810

>>7185773
it's 4chan, bro.

Kundera won't win cause Modiano and Le Clezio won recently. I have a feeling that it's gonna be Kadare.

>> No.7185823

>>7182198
How is he ugly.

>> No.7185824

>>7182585
>only one Goethe
Why

>> No.7185867

>>7185773
I also can't figure out why people on the racist/sexist website have racist/sexist views on this too

>> No.7185884

>>7182023
Why is Murakami so high??

Nice to see Marilynne Robinson on the list but she won't win because her latest book was very average.

>> No.7185890

>>7185884
They're betting markets, so they always overestimate the "popular" choices, or at least the ones with strong cult followings. Murakami fans are inflating the value of Murakami stock, he's not really any more likely than, I dunno, DeLillo or Doctorow.

I have a copy of Gilead in my room but haven't read it yet, maybe I'll pick that up next.

>> No.7185892

>>7182012

I'm happy every year Roth, DeLillo and Pynchon don't win. I don't even care if the author who wins is mediocre like Alice Munro. I just don't want those three to ever win

>> No.7185893

>>7185890
It's far and away her best book, and it's excellent. One of my all time favorites.

>> No.7185920

Harold Bloom for his outstanding piece of fantasy fan faction that only with a hand as deft as his could escape the common cultural trappings that pervade the genre.

>> No.7186014

>>7185867
>racist/sexist website
>implying
yea, because some people on a forum of tens of millions make sure they always post their views, that means the millions of readers/nonposters and people that post and don't feel that way make this an evil website. it's a forum, a place for any and all ideas.

>> No.7186037

>>7182012
Romania will get it.

>> No.7186047

>>7185892
>oh no my hipster cred

>> No.7186051

>>7185920
honestly top level shitpost

>> No.7186297

>>7186047

no, I dislike all three, which is why. Roth especially, what a fucking loser. I'd love to see him die without one.

>> No.7186437

>>7182023
I want Krasznahorkai please happen please.

>> No.7186446

>>7186437
i love him but i am one of those terrible people who kind of want their idols to remain as obscure as possible so i don't want this

>> No.7186467

>>7186446
I too am like that but it's criminal to see how unknown he is compared to his talent.
Also, he already wrote a lot and is working on something on Moby Dick/Melville, so I don't think he'll become shit (and even if he does, we can always have his earlier stuff).
I just want more French translations tbh, I can't get enough of it.

>> No.7186614

>>7185823
That guy is definitely a sour grapes virgin

>> No.7186619

>>7185892
Alice Munro is great, but those other three are even greter

>> No.7186624

>>7185920
Would be funny if he won for his criticism or something (obviously not happening, though). When was the last time someone won for their critical work, anyway?

>> No.7186629

>>7186037
Who? Cartarescu? Does he deserve the award?

>> No.7186632

>>7186297
Roth is great you cunt. At least half of his books are worth reading, and a few are just brilliant

>> No.7186635

>>7186446
>>7186467
Krasznahorkai isn't fucking unknown any more, get over it

>> No.7186641

Anyway, the winner should be Nicanor Parra, like I said earlier, and I'm glad someone agrees >>7185603

>> No.7186643

>>7186624
I think never, but a handful of winners (Shaw, Sartre, probably others) had decently well-known literary criticism in addition to their more famous work

>> No.7186646

>>7186643
Apparently Derrida was being considered, but he's even more famous as a philosopher.

>> No.7188107

Bump

>> No.7189013

Karl Ove should get it but he won't because he's a Norwegian in Sweden and also too young.

>> No.7189093

>>7186632

"imma jew who can't write well"

okay

>> No.7190373

>>7182023
>no vollmann

>> No.7190376

>>7189093
He writes really well.

>> No.7190420

>>7190376
identity politics shit. i bet you like morrison, faggot

>> No.7190459

>>7190420
She's probably good, too.

>> No.7190480

Who cares, nobel prizes in non-sciences are just memes at this point.

>> No.7190508

>>7190376

no, he doesn't.

>> No.7190516

>>7190508
Which of his books did you read?

>> No.7190530

>>7190516

Goodbye Columbus, Human Stain, American Pastoral

He reads like a less adventurous version of (if that's possible) Updike, and Updike gets on my nerves. Updike was at least able to perform a few great sentences per story, even if the stories were generally awful.

Roth winning the Nobel won't happen though, and I'm glad. Love to see him disappointed by it every year. The fact he's regarded as anything more than a third rate writer makes me sick

>> No.7190547

Yeshua Yuden Cohen

>> No.7190570

>>7190530
American Pastoral and Human Stain are two of his best books, so if they didn't do anything for you, then I don't know what to say, lol. Did you not at least like Swede's stream of consciousness description in American Pastoral of his daughter's childhood body after finding out she'd been raped? I thought it was beautiful and it nearly made me cry, tbh

>> No.7190634

>>7190530
There are probably better authors to win the Nobel btw, I agree there.