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Fear is the meme killer

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Shai'hulud

>> No.7173633

I'm still sad that we'll never get to see Jodorowsky's adaptation.

>> No.7173638

>>7173633
yes :( A Mobius, jodorowsky collab XD

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>>7172181
I thought the Fremen never referred to the planet as Arrakis, only used the term Dune?

Or was that a movie-only thing? I don't remember.

>> No.7173687

>>7173642
I thought it was the other way round since in the sequels the inhabitants start shortening it to Rakis but i don't really remember either

>> No.7173717

Man Heretics has a shitty cliffhanger ending.

>> No.7173783

Dune is weird book to have such a big following. Is it because of the environment of literature at the time it came out?

>> No.7174736

I have and am reading the first three books.

Do you recommend those who follow written by frank? What about those written by his son?

>> No.7174752

>>7174736
Read God Emperor and then stop. His son can't think, he can't write. He's got no discernible talent.

>> No.7174771

>>7174752
That's what I've read everywhere. What makes his son's books so bad?

What about Frank's last two (Heretics of Dune, and Chapterhouse: Dune) are those any good?

>> No.7174822

>>7174771
I never finished Heretics so I never even started Chapterhouse.

The only book I've read by his son was The Butlerian Jihad, or The Machine Crusade, one of those. Basically, Frank had a lot of ideas about what the Butlerian Jihad actually was as a diegetic historical event, but never went into great detail about it because the point of the Jihad is to explain wht thinking machines are forbidden and it didn't have much to do with the time period he was writing about, which was something like 10 or 20,000-25,000 years after the Jihad. or something. I haven't read Dune in a few years.
Now, when his son started writing about the Jihad, he decided to basically just write a space opera. The Atreides, the Harkonnens, and the Corinnos are in the story, but none of them are great houses because the Landsraad doesn't exist yet. Familiar world's are in the story, but they barely resemble themselves because Brian disregarded Frank's ideas and used his world to explore tired old SF tropes that nobody over the age of 15 cares about. So basically you get the story of how Paul's ancestors saved the universe from thinking machines, but in such a way that if you didn't know that the names of these characters resembled the names of the characters in Dune, you wouldn't even make the connection between the two diegeses. He also isn't as good at prose, characterization, or worldbuilding as Frank was. He's literally the biggest hack in SF.

>> No.7174861

>>7174822
Thanks for the info!

I didn't think it'd be this bad.

That's really too bad, I kind of hoped for a world spanning a dozen of good books like Asimov's Foundation (even if Herbert definitely has a better style).

>> No.7174882

>>7172181
frank herbert was a hack